The Wizards could have more than $21 million in cap space this summer, and while there are varying opinions about Michael Beasley in the front office, some would be open to bringing him to his hometown team, according to a league source.
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That means absolutely nothing.
I’m pretty sure “Some” is always open to just about anything.
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I guess you can take that last comment as not an endorsement for Beasley … but if the price is cheap …. i.e., do not give up a pick to get that guy.
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How about a swap of picks + a second rounder?
Wizards #8 for Beasley and #18 + #41
Gives the Heat enough Cap room to sign 2 major Free Agents in ADDITION to D-Wade…. (Bosh & Johnson? ; LeBron & Nowitzki? ; Stoudemire & Johnson ; Boozer & LeBron?) -
Beasley is still only 21 (with 2 NBA seasons under his belt) – and seemingly his previous off-court problems were not repeated this year….. He may be on the verge of “getting it”…..
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Beasley = Corliss Williamson
It bothers me we give a division rival a chance to be a top 3 team in the NBA for the foreseeable future, but I wouldn’t mind adding him if he is willing to accept a 6th man role.
by forthepeople on Apr 30, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Huh?
Corliss was the Big Nasty …. I’m not sure Beasley has the same mentality, although much more talented than Williamson.
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I don't even know about that
I’d want to wait until workouts before we trade the pick. If Aminu or Favors or someone wows us, I’d rather have someone who’s got a defined position than Beasley if the talent level is about equal. That said, Mike Miller via s/t and the Cavs’ pick might be enough if Miami is just concerned about cutting salary.
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by pantslessyoda1 on May 1, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't even know about that
I’d want to wait until workouts before we trade the pick. If Aminu or Favors or someone wows us, I’d rather have someone who’s got a defined position than Beasley if the talent level is about equal. That said, Mike Miller via s/t and the Cavs’ pick might be enough if Miami is just concerned about cutting salary.
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by pantslessyoda1 on May 1, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's make a deal
If Miami is willing to give Beasley up as a salary dump and Cleveland’s first round pick I say go for it. If Miami wants Cleveland’s pick and Nick Young I’d have to give it some thought because I really like Nick Young. But more than likely I’d say yes.
This is Pat Riley we're talking about
He’s not going to give Beasley up in a salary dump.
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I also can't see him liking Nick Young
Everyone on every Pat Riley team going back to the 90s seemed to play with a huge chip on their shoulder.
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by pantslessyoda1 on May 1, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I also can't see him liking Nick Young
Everyone on every Pat Riley team going back to the 90s seemed to play with a huge chip on their shoulder.
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by pantslessyoda1 on May 1, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
not a beasley fan
the guys a perpetual underachiever, inconsistent, and plus all the off-court issues. we’ve already had our fair share of guys like that on this roster, we don’t need another one.
perpetual?
As in two whole years he’s been in the NBA? THAT’s perpetual?
A 2nd year player is supposed to be “consistent”?
All of his “off-court issues” happened last year… nothing this season.
Boy – I’m really, really surprised at all the fans that say they want to draft young players – but no one is willing to invest several YEARS to see if those players will develop into Professionals…. Why is everyone so eager to write off a 21 year old 2nd year player as not worth a shot on a rebuilding team? I could understand if the Wizards were a contending team… why take a chance on a talented young player with possible issues…. but the Wizards are rebuilding. They need young bodies. LOTS AND LOTS of young players…. The more, the better.
What – should we be looking for another Michael Ruffin? Someone that is an over-achiever… Consistent as the sunrise; with an absolute stellar off-court demeanor. Yeah – give me some more of THOSE guys…. You know the ones – Earl Boykins….. Fab Oberto….
Not sure everyone can call a 21 year old, an “underachiever”…. For instance, at 19, Andray Blatche played only 26 games his Rookie season (6 minutes per game) after being SHOT.. At 20, he was playing 12 minutes a game and being arrested for soliciting a prostitute. At 21, Blatche was averaging 7.5 points in 20 minutes, and getting caught speeding and driving without a license…… Now, finally, at 23, Blatche seems to have turned the corner, and may finally be living up to his tremendous talent. (except for that whole “I don’t want to play” fiasco at the end of the year )
Beasley had some off-court troubles in his Rookie season… This year, he averated 15 points and 6.4 rebounds – and had NO issues. Why can’t we assume that he, like Blatche, may just need some time to grow into an adult?
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by Rook6980 on Apr 30, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
sorry to burst your bubble Rook, i'm sorry i'm just not a beasley fan
is a 2nd year player supposed to be consistent? well, i’d say that given the fact that he was a number 2 draft pick, yes. he really has not performed up to expectations, given how Derrick Rose, the guy who was picked before him, and OJ Mayo, the guy who was drafted right after him, have played. and if you wanna make the point that bigs take more time to develop, well i’d rather have Kevin Love than Beasley.
the thing i really question about beasley is his mental focus. there are other players who have beasley’s skill set and can provide what he brings, at the same price or perhaps even less, that don’t have the same problem that he does with drive, determination and mental focus. and potentially we could acquire someone like that through the draft who has beasley’s skill set, so that would pretty much make it redundant if we were to go after beasley.
there’s lots and lots of young players available out there. my point is, why beasley? what makes him so special that we should specifically target him?
by Marine4Life51 on May 1, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Underachiever for the #2 pick
But we’d be getting him for a lot less than that.
FWIW, he’s younger than this year’s consensus #2 pick, Evan Turner.
Any thoughts on how he’d fit with Flip’s schemes? Could he play the lead in Flip’s matchup zone?
But I still think we should keep our pick and use it to try to find a starting center who knows how to play….
beasley's not a free agent
we’re talking about a trade here. i personally would not be willing to give up any draft picks for beasley.
by Marine4Life51 on May 1, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I would trade Kwame Brown for Beasley, and not much else.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100429
Have to agree with Simmons…I’d be happy to have him if we didn’t have to give up anything…but right now I’d rather have the picks. I don’t want to bash him, and maybe he can learn, but I think Simmons makes the safe bet when says the following:
Hate to throw the “bust” word around after two years, so let’s flip this around. You’re watching the playoffs right now. Pretty competitive, right? Other than scoring, you need to rebound, defend and play hard to advance. Beasley can’t do any of those three things. Play an undersized power forward against him (like Glen Davis in Game 2) and he gets eaten up. Stick a small forward on him (like Paul Pierce) and he can’t post that guy up. Stick a traditional power forward on him (like Kevin Garnett) and he can’t beat that guy off the dribble or prevent the guy from scoring on the low post. So what’s left? I don’t see any conceivable scenario in which this guy has a meaningful NBA career. Could he put up stats on a bad team? Of course. Anything else, I’m not seeing it. All of Pat Riley’s fidgeting during the 2008 draft now makes perfect sense.
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by Bullet Nation in Exile on May 1, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, I don't think his offcourt troubles were that huge
He smokes weed, sure, but it’s not like he’s firing guns outside of strip clubs or something. Hell, Andray Blatche has been involved with more truly shady stuff than Beasley has and Gil has been far more reckless than him.
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by pantslessyoda1 on May 1, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if
given Beasley’s standing right now, this was put out there by someone who DOESN’T want him, as a secret message to the new owner. I.e., “Hey Ted, look what these idiots want to do! Maybe you should clean house!”
On a more serious note, couldn’t bringing Beasley “back home” be even worse? I never understand the logic that being back where someone grew up leads to better performances.
Ridiculous Upside, where developing talent and winning are not mutually exclusive.
I'd think having his family around might help him
Besides, it’s not like he would grew up in some crackhouse in Baltimore. There are probably fewer bad influences in Frederick than there are in Miami.
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by pantslessyoda1 on May 1, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's trade Mike James
and a bag of chips for him. They can have anybody on our roster, but not our pick. Not any picks.
The Price is Right
I was a huge Beasley fan out of college, and still like him as a young guy who we could ‘buy low’ on right now. The guy can score and is only 21. That said, his size has been a huuuge issue, pun intended. As Bill Simmons wrote today, he has serious trouble defensively because of his size.
As for why we should target him above another young player, well he has a low value right now, and a lot of upside. My biggest concern is the character thing. The problem with throwing a bunch of okay young guys together is they don’t have any veterans to teach and keep them straight. Beasley has not done anything publically that is bad, but has had a rep as immature since high school (which was only 4 years ago).
A small forward!
Can we agree that Blatche is the Wizard’s power forward? If so, then we’d be looking
at Beasley as a small forward. That being the case, with his scoring ability, shooting,
and overall athleticism, I see Carmelo-EAST! Seriously. The Heat switched him and
Udonis Haslem, a power forward. It’s possible that could’ve been difficult for Beasley,
although his numbers suggest he aqcuitted himself quite well, given his size disadvantage. Now put him in a position where he’s the bigger player night after night,
give him a year or two to establish that position…I’m tellin’ you, it’s Carmelo-East!
Roll them dice baby!!
Bigger but slower
The problem is that he’s a bit of a tweener — he’s pretty short for a PF, but kind of slow for a SF. I’m not saying he can’t become very good, but that’s a pretty simple explanation for why he’s not tearing up the NBA so far…
This would eat 2011 cap space
I’m already an advocate of spending our cap space this summer instead of putting all our eggs in the Carmelo basket, but if we get Beasley added to the top 5 pick we’ll have this year, then I don’t think we’ll have enough space to sign a max guy in 2011 unless the cap starts increasing again.
That said, I’m a fan of trading for Beasley and going after a max player this summer.
Eh, would we really become elite if we signed Melo?
I don’t think he’d put us over the top in 2011. Maybe someone similar in 2012 or 2013, once the young guys are entering their primes (ie mid-20s).
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by pantslessyoda1 on May 1, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Out of curiosity
Maybe I missed it in the article, but has anyone in Miami even said that he’s up for sale at this point?
unsubstantiated rumor
by a “league source”……
But. let’s face it, it makes for some fun discussion…..
Get used to this…. We will be hearing all kinds of rumors this Summer – so get ready to discuss EVERY one of them – From “LeBron wants to come to DC”, to “The Wiz are interested in Shaq”….. and everything in between.
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Beasley's great, for the right price
And right now, they may be able to “buy low”, as Jon said above. Maybe. I dunno about “Melo East”, but he’s talented, and improving. I agree with Herb that he’d need to play the SF position, a position that he’s more effective at, anyway. I don’t see Blatche doing any regular time at C at this point. He’s the second best player on the team, and Flip won’t want to mess with his production next season by moving him around. To make that happen, they’re going to need a couple more options at center, including a replacement for Fabricio (the “Not So Fabulous Fab”), who is almost certainly gone. Maybe one free agent, and one draft pick?
I agree that Beasley is an asset and we should bring him in at the right price
But I’ve read a couple of posts that want him to play SF.
How do we know he is more effective at SF? Unless I’m wrong, but in looking at Beasley’s profile for his two seasons in the NBA at82games.com, the Heat haven’t played him at SF at all.
To clarify
Beasley appears to have only played about 13% of his total minutes at SF. It’s a small sample size for sure, although in his time at SF it appears that his team is worse off with him at SF, although that could be more of a reflection on the overall roster makeup of the Heat.
I’m just curious as to why some of you are saying he’s more effective at SF? Are there evidence for this, or just assuming?
Btw I’m not trying to be a jerk, I’m just curious and want to know more about how Beasley can fit our team.
How about we let the Heat keep Beasley and...
we take Haslem instead?
Beasley averaged a soft 15 and 6 last year when he was given every opportunity to be the Heat’s #2 option… The Wizzies just came off a year where management dumped a bunch of contracts and a 5 pick for Randy Foye, who had averaged 16 points a game and also was a coveted pick in his draft year… and it is pretty unlikely that the team will pick up his option.
Remember who said that “one man’s trash is anther man’s treasure?” That would be Mike James….
It is fun to speculate tho….
No thanks
Haslem is also an undersized PF, and is 30 years old to boot. By the time this team is ready to contend, Haslem will be entering the steep part of the decline he’s already begun.
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