JaVale McGee and Hassan Whiteside
by DaGribb on Mar 9, 2010 12:14 AM EST
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Who's Hassan Whiteside?? He's the freshman center for Marshall who's 6-11 215 and supposedly has a wingspan of 7'6 and he appears to be as athletic as McGee for his size. As of March 8, 2010 he has 14 double doubles and three of those being triple doubles (blocks being the third cat.). Until recently he's been projected as the first pick in the 2011 mock drafts, but he's been much better sooner then expected and is now projected as a 2010 draft pick. The two best players in the 2010 draft are going to be John Wall and Evan Turner, but now I can confidently say that Whiteside is the third best player for 2010. Yes, DeMarcus Cousins, Derrick Favors, Wesley Johnson, Donatas Motiejunas, and Greg Monroe are up there.....but you watch this play and if you don't see a potential Dwight Howard in him you're crazy. Even if the Wizards don't draft this beast they need to hire an awesome big man coach to help McGee b/c we can't waste time not improving him ASAP (drafting Whiteside would only reiterate this point). Drafting Whiteside would give the Wizards fans the dream of having "twin towers"...granted it'd be all potential unlike having an established David Robinson and drafting a ready to go Tim Duncan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl6q49ruwS4&feature=related
You'll watch this and see flaws in his game like he relies to much on his size and athleticism on defense and he shouldn't be taking 3 point shots lol EVEN THOUGH he's 3-4 on the season from downtown. LIKE JaVale though his parents were professional athletes..Hassan's dad, Hassan Arbubakrr, played for the Minnesota Vikings and Tampa Bay Bucs. So if you aren't drooling over him yet youtubehas like 5 more videos (all with ACDC soundtracks lol) of him. SO WIZARDS FANS....if not John Wall or Evan Turner...Hassan Whitesidein the first with Sherron Collins at the 30th pick (slip that in there)! Throw some comments and let me know what you think!
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Potential aside,
Whiteside represents more of the same. Tall athletic stick-figure shot blocker. If he’s the best player on the board when we pick, then yes take him. But the Wiz need some size and bulk in the frontcourt.
And they already have twin towers in Blatche (6’11") and McGee (7’1" and reportedly not finished growing). My money says they’ll be here for a long long time. If anything, the Wiz may pick up a project at shooting guard, since that’s the position they’ve had the most trouble filling over the past 5 years and Nick Young is not yet working out. But I don’t see them adding yet another project to their frontcourt.
those were my initial thoughts too
And I’m still inclined to believe that way, however looking at that youtube video Whiteside’s physical attributes actually look different than McGee’s. He looks more like a Dwight Howard type build (after he fills out), whereas McGee looks like Ralph Sampson. I’m not in favor of adding too much redundancy on the Wizards roster, unless a player is clearly better than what else is available at the time the Wizards make their pick. But if the Wizards take a big guy, ideally this player would be versatile enough to play either the 4 or 5 position so he can share the court with both McGee and Blatche. Both Cousins and Favors probably can do that, Whiteside I’m not sure about. But maybe.
I definitely can see the appeal. I’m willing to wait on a project to develop – I just don’t want a replica of McGee. I’m not sure that’s what Whitside is though.
by Johnnie Futbol on Mar 9, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
One thing Whiteside has going for him is versatility
although he lists at 6’11" and plays Center for Marshall, he has the quickness to play PF in the NBA. Similar to Blatche in that regard; that he can play both Center and PF… and bring something different to each position.
I don’t see a problem drafting another tall, lanky big man -
I’ve watched two Marshall games this year – both on Internet TV…. The first one was against Tulane in February… and Whiteside had 10 points, 5 rebounds and 7 blocks in only 20 minutes (he ended up with 4 Personal Fouls) – but when he was in the game, he dominated inside defensively – Tulane could get NOTHING on the inside.
The other game was just the other day against SMU. He ended up with 17 points, 10 rebounds and 3 blocks in 30 minutes – and again dominated inside… but SMU decided to foul rather than give up easy buckets… Whiteside went 7-9 from the Free Throw line…and had the entire SMU front line in foul trouble in the second half.
But even after watching him…. in two games where he did very well… I still think he’s extremely raw, especially Offensively… and the level of competition he’s playing against has to be taken into consideration.
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I don’t see a problem drafting another tall, lanky big man -
I don’t either except for the fact that we’ve already got two, one of whom is
extremely raw, especially Offensively
I’m fine with a developing another project, but I’d much prefer SG/SF as a project. If they’re going to draft a PF/C or a PG, I’d much prefer someone who is more of a known quantity (as much as can be, not having played a minute of NBA ball), as opposed to a big ball of potential. Like a Cole Aldrich or Greg Monroe or Kalin Lucas or Sherron Collins.
Depends on where the Wizards land in the Lottery
If they land in the top 2, obviously you want them to take John Wall or Even Turner (in that order)…. By the way, I hope they get Turner… He’s big (6’7"), he’s a tremendous ball handler, a great passer, he’s got a sweet stroke; He’s an in-your-face defender AND he’s experienced (3-years of College ball)…
If they land in slots 3-7, I think they should shoot for Favors, Aldrich or Cousins (in that order)… I foresee some problems with Cousins ( work ethic, lazy on Defense, etc…) – but you can’t pass on him if he’s the best player on the board when it’s their time to pick.
But if they end up somewhere 7-10, Ed Davis, Whiteside or Greg Monroe would be acceptable (in that order)….
The draft is top heavy with big men this year…. with only Turner and Al-Farouq Aminu (who I DO NOT LIKE) as wings (SG/SF) that may go in the Lottery….
The Wizards might have better luck finding a SG with the Late First round pick (Cleveland’s pick)… or their early second round pick – - – where a terrific defender like Avery Bradley or a guy with some range and passing ability like Xavier Henry might fall…
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Not sure I agree 100% on your ordering (stick Aldrich in the 7-10 range for example), but you’ve got the right people.
But you missed one: Wesley Johnson.
by Johnnie Futbol on Mar 11, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah -
My Draft prospect article on Wes Johnson is coming out soon…. He has skyrocketed up the Draft boards….. after being no where to be found last year….
He needs to work on some things (finishing around the basket, ball handling, etc…) but he should be in the conversation when you’re talking about anyone in the top 10, and especially picks 5-10……
I think Johnson is a better prospect than say, Cousins (big bust potential), and Patterson (disappears in games)…. but his best position is SF – - – and with the Wiz making noises like they want to resign Howard, and with Thornton already under contract for at least next year, with an option for 2012 – along with the fact that Miller can play SF as well (if they resign him) – if there were a PF, Center or Shooting Guard available at the same slot as Johnson – I think the Wiz would take one over Johnson.
OTOH – if they think Johnson could convert to Shooting Guard (and I think, ultimately, he would be GREAT there)…. that would be a nice consolation prize if they can’t get Evan Turner.
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Looking forward to your report. Johnson’s crazy athletic and in my opinion would fit nicely with McGee and Blatche. If he can play SG even better.
Also, I hope you can get around doing a Greg Monroe report. If you can watch his game with 12 assists even better. Best passing big man ever.
by Johnnie Futbol on Mar 13, 2010 1:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
As much as I like some of those guys, I think we need to aim high
Frankly, we’re most likely not going to win the lottery at any point during the rebuilding process, so we might as well aim for guys who can be elite. I don’t want us to wind up like Charlotte – with a bunch of good but not great guys and unable to win more than 40 games – so I think we need to just pray that at least one of our projects can turn into a legitimate star. Because, as great as Monroe will be, I doubt he’ll ever be a top three guy on a championship team. Also, and I know that this is contrary to all of our recent history, we’re not going anywhere right now so there’s no reason not to play a project (relatively) heavy minutes and let him develop.
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 10, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
I agree about not having a problem with another lanky big
It’s not like either of them will play enough minutes to force the other to the bench. As long as this guy is more Javale McGee or Tyson Chandler than Patrick O’Bryant, I’m fine with taking him. I mean, even if we don’t like him, can a team really have too many young, athletic bigs? Worst case scenario assuming he can play at all, we trade him in two years for a dependable young perimeter guy like Harden or Ronnie Brewer.
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 10, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with taking a gamble
Sometimes it’s gonna be between Dwight Howard and Emeka Okafor and for the Wizards right now I think we have to go with the higher ceiling players even if a few turn out to be Kwame Browns.
Yep
A solid but not elite guy like Okafor can just be picked up in free agency. The elite guys usually have to be drafted or stolen from a team in a small market and/or that’s rebuilding.
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 14, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah Whiteside does have a solid frame to grow into
you gotta give him that.
This is as good a thread as any to ask
I might be the biggest Gerald Lee fan that did not go to Old Dominion or does not root for them (although I will be pulling for them in the NCAAs). I think he has a future in the NBA. He’s smooth, has a decent handle, is a good passer out of a double team (had a lot of practice with that against W&M in the final year), can hit the jumper and has a decent post game.
I am not saying the Wizards should draft him (though if Mike Miller leaves then its something to think about for SF), but I think he will get drafted. What does everyone else think.
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by George Templeton on Mar 9, 2010 12:39 PM EST reply actions
Depends on
which of the current SFs Washington keeps (Howard, Thornton, Miller, Young, and Singleton can play the position). If they let Howard and Miller walk (most likely in my mind), then SF becomes a position of need, but IMO there is still a greater need at PG and they need a big bodied backup at C/PF a lot more than they need another wing player.
the Wiz need the best player available
I’m thinking Howard and Miller are gone after the season with Thornton having the starting job until we can replace him. That is, unless he gets much better…only 26.
With the 30th pick, hell yeah
He’d be good next to Gilbert, at least in theory. I doubt he’ll be a good defender at this level, but he’s got the size (he’s 6’5, right?) to play shooting guard and he can handle the ball, so I think he’d be good. I like his fire, too; I want this team to be as nasty as possible.
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 10, 2010 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
If he can't guard NBA guards (and he can't)
then he’s a very bad fit with Gil. He may be good as the backup PG who can also fill the role as bench scorer.
He has no lateral movement, slow feet, and a slow first step. I see him struggling on both offense and defense in the league.
Don’t get me wrong I love the guy at MD, but I don’t see his skills translating very well.
I wouldn't mind Vasquez
but I’d take Scottie Reynolds over him. That guy doesn’t have the measurables, does nothing fantastic. But he wins. I think he would bring instant leadership to this team. He reminds me a lot of Joe Dumars. I think a lot of teams are gonna sleep on Reynolds, and then regret doing so.
I do like Reynolds in the NBA
more so then Vasquez. I see Jameer Nelson when I see Reynolds. If Vasquez was a better defender I’d like him much more.
Hope Evans falls to our top 4 pick :)
and then
trade Blatche Nick Howards option for Hassan Whitesides rights
that would be crazy :)
im not sold on Blatche sorry his value is peaking right now so i would trade him
Yeah, trade the big man you spent 5 years developing
for another big man you need to spend years developing. Yes, that would be crazy…
I’m not sold on any amateur athlete, WRT how they will do as a pro. There are entirely too many lottery busts, mid first round superstars, and second round contributors to consider anybody a sure thing (except for the occasional John Wall…). Blatche is a sure thing, simply based off of the fact that he’s averaged over 10 ppg in his last 130 games and almost 18 ppg over his last 20 games.
No thanks.
hehe Brand for Chandler pt 2
And you know that as soon as this guy was ready to become a legitimate player, he’d sign with another team or we’d trade him for another project.
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 10, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
yeah but we need to take a chance to get lucky…. we could find the next Big time Player thru the draft to build that Championship caliber team like the Caps did … Blatche is not going to take us to the next level but he and Cap space could be dealt for a high pick that could be that next bigtime Player ….with Blatche its like All that Glitter is not gold homie … if him and capspace can nab us a top 10 pick i would do that in a heartbeat
Key phrase: 'could be'
Blatche ‘is’. You don’t trade him for a ‘could be’. That player you draft ‘could be’ a bust. That player could top out a level lower than the player you traded to get him. That’s the thing about the draft. You can get lucky, or you can get unlucky. The draft is at best an educated guess. You don’t give away sure things (especially when they are 23, come in a 6’11" frame, and puts up 25/10 as soon as they start getting starter minutes) unless you’re getting a sure thing. And there are maybe 2 of them in each draft. And they are mostly much shorter than 6’11". And most of those ‘sure things’ top out somewhere around where Blatche is now.
In the NBA you keep Andray Blatche.
You wanna know how bad an idea it is to trade Blatche? All you have to do is ask any fan of almost any team (I’ll concede the Cleveland’s and LA’s) would they trade for him.
anyone know how he
ended up at Marshall… did he not have grades? obscure geography (which i doubt because there is a video from 2008 when he was in HS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krc5u8F943g) ? criminal record? conscientious objector to the wars?
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