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UPDATE: Michael Lee confirms the news and says the Wizards let him walk "because it does not want to tie up cap room" to him. Really? Does EG realize Gee left because the Spurs offered him a non-guaranteed deal for next year? Is he serious?

UPDATE: Schroeder has received confirmation that Gee has indeed signed back with the Spurs. Ernie Grunfeld and company have some major explaining to do if true.

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A source tells Scott Schroeder that the Spurs have offered Alonzo Gee a contract that would keep him with the Spurs for the rest of the season, as well as give him a nonguaranteed deal to training camp next year.

Just to clarify (I double-checked this with Scott too), the Spurs have merely offered this to Gee. Gee hasn't signed anything yet. However, this line is ominous.

While it seems Washington hasn't made an effort to sign Gee for the season at this time, there is the slight possibility that they could make a last-ditch attempt to reward the rookie for his efforts.

It would be a major disappointment if the Wizards let Gee get away.

Gee's second 10-day contract expired yesterday.

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Why is it always the Spurs?

Is it that whoever is in charge of our player assessments (Ernie Grunfeld?) is so much less effective than the Spurs guys that we let talent slip through our fingers, while they scoop up the good ones?
Roger Mason, DeJuan Blair, and now Alonzo Gee…..

And why didn’t the Wizards lock in Alonzo Gee for the rest of the year while he was under his last 10-day contract?
(as I understand things, while he’s under contract to the Wizards other teams cannot talk to him… but once his 10-day contract is expired, he becomes an unrestricted Free Agent). So why did the Wizards allow him to become a Free Agent?

Someone is asleep at the wheel……….

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

You Said it All, Rook

Rec’d both of your posts. My thoughts exactly. Someone should be fired if the Spurs end up with Gee and not us. I’m looking at you, Ernie.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Mar 29, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

More reason to change the name. We share the team name with a d-league team and we play like one as well.

by Fundefined on Mar 29, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Though the Wizards could influence Dakota to hire the coach of their choosing

Erie runs Cleveland’s system, even though the Raptors are also an affiliate. Utah runs Utah’s system, though they’re also affiliated with Atlanta. D-League teams are definitely interested in helping out their NBA affiliates … though the interest would probably have to go both ways.

I blog at Ridiculous Upside. I know you'll love it.

by Scott Schroeder on Mar 29, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I get what you're saying Scott....

and I understand that having your own affiliate is probably more expensive for the NBA club…. but still, the sharing of a “minor league” club is not the optimal situation.

The BEST situation is where you have full control of the basketball side of the organization – and can make decisions about which players to select, the Coach, the Offensive and Defensive systems to teach, and just the general tenor of how you want things run.

The Wizards wouldn’t necessarily need to control the Business side – although I could see benefits from having a team closer to the big club (Fairfax, Suburban Maryland, Richmond) – and there could be cross-marketing, shared events. I could see a D-League club getting an attendance boost from being physically closer to their affiliated NBA club. I know that I would attend Wizards D-League games (lots of them) if they were physically close to the parent club…. Just to see the talent they’re developing, or to see the draft picks they send down for playing time, etc….

I am hoping that once Ted Leonsis takes over, seeing what he’s done with the Capitals (and the Hershey Bears), that the Wizards will for once take a good hard look at how they use their D-League affiliate – and find better ways to utilize that asset.

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

You'll never see my argument

So I guess I’ll quit trying to explain it to you.

I blog at Ridiculous Upside. I know you'll love it.

by Scott Schroeder on Mar 29, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch, Was That Necessary?

I didn’t get that Rook was dismissing your arguments at all, merely adding to them. Where was he being obtuse?

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Mar 29, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

We've had the conversation

at least twice before.

I blog at Ridiculous Upside. I know you'll love it.

by Scott Schroeder on Mar 29, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I understand that a D-League club, even if it's shared

can be run like you said….

But if Erie runs Cleveland’s systems, how does that help the Raptors?
And if Utah runs Utah’s system, how does that help Atlanta?

I like what Utah has done with the D-League affiliate. #1, it’s close. They can send guys down, and bring them back in hours if necessary. (unlike being a Continent-wide plane ride away)… They run the same Offensive and Defensive systems as the Jazz. And the Jazz actually USE their D-League affiliate to develop players.

If the Dakota Wizards were running Flip Saunders’ Offense, and his Defensive systems – and if the Wizards were sending guys down for playing time and development… I’d be ecstatic.

BUT THEY DON’T – Instead, even in a disastrous year like last year, when JaVale McGee, Javaris Crittenton and Oleksiy Pecherov could have used some development time… some playing time…. they rotted on the Wizard’s bench.

My complaint is not with the D-League ; but in how the Wizards use, or more accurately DON’T use that asset.

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

And one last thing

Scott – in your opinion, which NBA clubs make the most of their D-League affiliates?

I’d bet that it’s either the top (cream of the crop) NBA clubs (LA, Denver, Utah, etc….) , or the teams with the most money (LA, New York, etc…)….

I’d also bet that Washington would be at the bottom of the list – for NBA teams that utilize their D-League affiliate….

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like Scott's written about this before

Worth checking his archives.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Mar 29, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Houston and Austin make the most of their affiliates

Cleveland is using it well, but the results haven’t really shown through – because they don’t need it right now.
The Suns have done as much as they need to do (assigning the rookies for playing time and experience) even though their affiliate is in Iowa and doesn’t run the same system.
Los Angeles runs the triangle and owns their D-League team, but doesn’t keep NBA talent there. Terrible use of a D-League team.
New York is very inept when it comes to using the D-League, even though Springfield is much closer than their previous affiliate (Reno).
Boston uses Maine very well, even though they share with Charlotte.
OKC seems to know what to do with Tulsa as well.
I won’t get into your other issues yet again.

I blog at Ridiculous Upside. I know you'll love it.

by Scott Schroeder on Mar 29, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Surprised that LA is on the "terrible use" list....

Perhaps it’s because they don’t have any young talented players to “stash” there… I know they used their D-League team last year, sending Sun Yue to their Affiliate. It’s probably more difficult for the really elite teams considering where they’re drafting from….

More and more teams are finding creative ways of using the D-League to stash talent, and develop talent… (Except the Wizards)…

The Spurs, especially, seem to be on the front lines with their signing of Curtis Jerrells and his immediate re-assignment to their D-League affiliate ( something you talked about as being something you’d like to see more of) -… and their signing today of Gee, right out from under the noses of Washington’s front office….

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought I read somewhere you wrote there were 27 call ups, and 33 assignments

or something like that…. I’d love to see a breakdown of all of them….

Do you have that anywhere?

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by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what this tells me is that THIS YEAR:

Boston Celtics have sent 4 guys to the D-League for additional playing time and development
OKC has sent 3
Cleveland has sent 2
San Antonio has sent 2
Memphis has sent 2
Phoenix has sent 2
Houston has sent 2

and most of the same teams were assigning players to their D-League affiliate last year too:
San Antonio assigned 5 players (some multiple times)
Utah assigned 3 players
OKC assigned 3 players
Even Cleveland sent Darnell Jackson to the D-League twice….

Anyone here notice that the same teams that frequently use the D-League for player development also seem to be some of the best run Organizations in the NBA?

You don’t see the Clippers (0) , Wizards (0) or Timberwolves (1) sending a lot of guys to the D-League to get playing time and to work on their games…..

hmmm…………………………………..

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by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Spurs have been amazing

So has RGV, though. They had Will Conroy say he’d only play in the D-League if he could get traded to the Vipers, then in turn he negotiated that if he played decent, he’d get a call-up (this is all under the table, obviously).
You would think LA would at least keep NBA potential players in their system, but they really haven’t even done that. They traded away Deron Washington for peanuts earlier this year, just let Joe Crawford go to China and don’t really have anyone else ready to contribute/filled with potential.

I blog at Ridiculous Upside. I know you'll love it.

by Scott Schroeder on Mar 29, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess they feel that since they're the LAKERS

they can just fill in any holes they have with Free Agents… Instead of less expensive rookies and draft picks….

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by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys are funny. While Ernie certainly is asleep at the wheel and has no clue about finding and developing young talent, letting a D-League player get away this season is hardly a major disappointment, at least on the laundry list of Grunfeld’s disappointments. Gee is going to play next year with whatever team offers him the best contract. Heck, if the Wiz want Gee to play for them next season, they are better off letting Gee go to the Spurs now so that Gee sees how a real franchise operates and gets some real player development. I wish we could send all of the Wizards players to the Spurs for a month to learn and develop.

by disgrunted on Mar 29, 2010 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

I think it's the greater process that bugs me most

You finally get on the frontlines with using D-League talent … and then you fall asleep at the wheel and let a better organization steal him away, despite him playing way better than pretty much any D-League callup this year.

It’s a microcosm of a larger problem.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Mar 29, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

The problem is that if the Wizards are rebuilding, you can't start adding complimentary pieces before the main pieces are in place.

Agreed that it’s frustrating to see the Wizards finally add a good D-Leaguer and then let him walk. But if the price of keeping him the rest of this season and next was signing him to a contract for next year (I realize the Spurs offered him a non-guaranteed contract, but if a player has non-guaranteed offers from the Wiz and Spurs, which team do you think he would pick? Going to the Spurs gives Gee 2010 playoff exposure, too. So the Wizards might have had to offer Gee more than a non-guaranteed deal to keep him.), then Grunfeld made the right decision to not extend a contract to him for next year. First, the Wizards should keep its focus on the main goal, namely, keeping as much of its cap room as possible, and second, what if the Wizards end up with Wesley Johnson or Aminu in the draft? Then they would have Thorton, Johnson/Aminu and Gee all at SF. In that situation, having Gee doesn’t make sense.

by disgrunted on Mar 29, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

if a player has non-guaranteed offers from the Wiz and Spurs, which team do you think he would pick?

While Gee was under the 10-day contract with the Wizards – no other club could offer him ANYTHING. The Wizards could have offered him a contract for the rest of the season and a non-guaranteed contract for next year…… Gee then has a choice. Does he sign with Washington? OR does he chance it, and HOPE that another club offers him something….

OF course that whole scenario above assumes that there was no tampering – In other words, that the Spurs didn’t have any prior conversations with Gee while he was under contract to the Wizards….

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by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

But it's not like they're making a long-term commitment to Gee

We’re not talking about some veteran on the MLE, we’re talking about a 22-year old for five times less that has shown a lot of potential. At this point, signing Gee isn’t about signing a complimentary piece, it’s about stockpiling young talent. When you’re rebuilding, you start by committing to young players who demonstrate they can play, then later consolidating that crew of young talent into something that can pay off right away.

I don’t understand – how much do you think Gee would have signed for anyway? Did you really believe he was going to get a five-year contract for the MLE?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Mar 29, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

In other words

I don’t think signing Gee for the rest of the season, then guaranteeing a minimum contract to him next year would signify we’re committing to him as a long-term piece. Instead, we’d get a year for him and Thornton to battle before both of their contracts run out.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Mar 29, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did you really believe that I really believe he was going to get a five year contract for the MLE?

Then why did you ask? Let’s keep these discussions civil, please.

While I agree that the Wizards are going to have to fill out the roster next year anyway, so signing a young player at a low one-year contract makes some sense, I think it also makes sense to wait until you have a clearer picture on the direction you want to take the team and the key pieces you have in place before making decisions to commit to players next season, even at low salaries.

I mocked the notion of committing to Josh Howard next season based on his play in four games, so I’m not going to mock the decision not to commit to Gee next season based on his play in 11 games.

by disgrunted on Mar 29, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, that was unnecessary

Still, I think there’s a big difference between committing $12 million to Josh Howard and $1 million to Alonzo Gee.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Mar 29, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think of it this way

You’re going to have to fill out the roster anyway with guys like Gee. Why not make it Gee himself?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Mar 29, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gee is going to play next year with whatever team offers him the best contract.

Wrong – If Gee accepts the Spurs offer, they would own his rights. They offered him a contract for the rest of this year, AND a non-guaranteed deal for next year. That means he’s tied up. The Spurs own his rights. Unless they release him, he plays for them next year.

Again – IF Gee accepts.

Really smart move by the Spurs. They’re getting a guy that’s been groomed for their system. He’s still only 22 years old. They tied him up for next year, but on a non-guaranteed contract. Very, Very smart.

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by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not to Mention

That Gee has been playing freaking awesome for us. Oh well, like Flip said, don’t ever think it can’t get any worse…

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Mar 29, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Smart Organizations like the Spurs make smart decisions, and sign smart contracts

Two years ago, the Spurs signed away Roger Mason for slightly more than the Wizards could afford to pay. They knew exactly what our cap and tax situation was…. and offered Roger the chance to play for a class organization at a higher salary than the Wizards could afford.

Last year, the Spurs drafted DeJuan Blair; when no one else wanted him. Not only that, but they offered Blair a higher starting contract than a normal Second Round pick so they could lock him in for an additional two years.

Now they beat the Wizards to the punch by offering Gee this contract – which will essentially steal him away from Washington (and the rest of the League)…..

Smart, smart Orgainzation

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by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, Basically

The Spurs are the only team in the NBA with 2 D-League affiliates. The Austin Toros and the Washington Wizards. Come watch your future Spurs stars play for the Wizards!

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Mar 29, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Ernie, you've got some 'splainin' to do!

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Mar 29, 2010 10:21 AM EDT reply actions  

I swear before all that's holy

If we ever sign Kyle Korver I’m officially becoming a Clippers fan.

by imperialme on Mar 29, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Start Putting on Your Clippers Gear

Do you honestly think with all that has happened to us this season that it can’t get as bad as you are referring to? If I were you, I wouldn’t be making such proclamations unless you are dead serious on following through. “Don’t ever think it can’t get any worse, because it can.”

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Mar 29, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do You Think Maybe

That the cap room Mike Lee was referring to was for this season? I mean, I understand that we are pretty close to the luxury tax threshold for this season and we really can’t afford to add any more salary. Not to defend Ernie, I’m just grasping at straws here.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Mar 29, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm... maybe

That’s a good point.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Mar 29, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Signing Gee to a rookie minimum deal

would only have cost less $60K or so for the remaining 13 games in the season….

With Ilgauskas’ buy out, I think they had way more than that left below the cap…..

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by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

You got any idea where they actually stand in relation to the luxury tax?

Is there any way to find out?

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by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's the only way this makes any sense...

if the Wizards are right up on the Luxury Tax threshold that $60K would put them over – then this makes sense… Alonzo Gee is not worth giving up the $4 – $5 Million check the Wiz will get from the League for being below the Tax…..

But if they are talking about “Cap Room” for this Summer – ……………. then it is really all about someone falling asleep at the wheel.

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by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where Do You Get $60K?

Is that what the Spurs are offering him, or what a minimum salary would have been? Is it possible the Spurs offered Gee more than the minimum to steal him away from us? Is it possible that the reason the Ilgauskas deal took so long was to make sure we would be below the luxury tax line and still be able to sign guys to 10 day contracts to fill in, but not to pay more than the minimum?

Again, not defending Ernie, just grasping here.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Mar 29, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I used the Minimum salary…. roughly $450K times 10 games left (of 82)… = $55, 731

And yes – I’m grasping too…. because there’s got to be a reason we didn’t sign him – I mean beyond the feeble excuse that they do “not want to tie up cap room”

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by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

the Wizards let him walk “because it does not want to tie up cap room”

OMG – they could have signed this kid to a Rookie Minimum deal for $450K – Cap room my a$$
Are you kidding me? $450K? When you’re gonna have around $22-24 MILLION in Cap room and you’re worried about $450K – so you let a talented 22 year old just walk to another team……

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by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 10:26 AM EDT reply actions  

So I have to remake my Franchise roster on Live all over again Ernie?

Good to know we saved slightly more than the rookie minimum again. Shrewd, shrewd move Ernie. Ted, please fire this man. Please.

by imperialme on Mar 29, 2010 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

On the bright side

Good luck Zo. Enjoy the NBA. Send us a postcard and let us know what it’s like…

by imperialme on Mar 29, 2010 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Great way to start my morning...

Is it really too much to ask for a D-league call-up who was one of the only bright spots on a high-lottery team to stay on the team for HALF A MONTH? As I tell my friends, the Wizards have shortened my lifespan by a couple years…. It’s not even as if he was an important part of our future, but as mentioned above, it’s the process of developing our own talent that we just can’t seem to grasp.

"Guess you guys aren't ready for that yet... but trust me, you're gonna love it." ~Marty McFly

by mr. 91 on Mar 29, 2010 10:39 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

So Who's Next?

Scott Schroeder, if you are still reading, who else is burning up the D-League that we could use? Mike Harris didn’t work out too well for us, and Gee is now a Spur. Any other great hopes down there for us?

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Mar 29, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Well

I’ll work on some options once you all figure out if the reason Gee’s no longer around is because the Wizards would hit the luxury tax.
Also, I don’t think Harris got a fair chance in Washington, considering he signed a full-season deal with Houston.
Right now, though, I’d probably say that Dwayne Jones is the likely big man option, though I’d rather sign Alexander Johnson.
On the wings: Mo Almond would be fun on offense; Cartier Martin or Antonio Anderson are pretty good defenders.

I blog at Ridiculous Upside. I know you'll love it.

by Scott Schroeder on Mar 29, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

To Be Fair

Harris is getting a lot more minutes with Houston but is actually playing worse, at least so far. He’s not making me miss him quite yet. Gee, on the other hand, took every opportunity handed to him and made the most of it.

How would you compare Dwayne Jones to Alexander Johnson? Is Mo Almond terrible on defense? Does Cartier Martin or Antonio Anderson have any offensive game to speak of?

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Mar 29, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Harris is an NBA player

Cartier just had two really good games – 28 and 30 point efforts. Was with Charlotte majority of last season, had 2 10-days with Golden State this season.
Dwayne Jones and Alexander Johnson aren’t really alike in any way. Johnson’s a better scorer and definitely more explosive, but smaller. Jones is big and rebounds very well.
Almond isn’t good on defense. Might not be terrible, but he’s below average.
Anderson is developing. Can play a bit at the point, but don’t know that’d be a skill Washington would be interested in.

I blog at Ridiculous Upside. I know you'll love it.

by Scott Schroeder on Mar 29, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dwayne Jones Sounds More Like What We Need

We desperately need a center that can rebound and play defense. Alexander Johnson looks good, but he would be behind Blatche and maybe even Singleton, so I don’t see him getting a good opportunity here.

But now that we let Gee walk, we will also need a good small forward. I’m going to immediately disqualify Almond because we really, really don’t need any more sieves on defense. Cartier sounds intriguing. Assuming we don’t require Anderson to play the point, what can he bring us at shooting guard?

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Mar 29, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

what can he bring us at shooting guard?

Hopefully, more than Nick Young is bringing now….

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by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree... Wiz need a guy with a bit bigger build (6'11", 250) ...than JaVale

and according to DraftExpress, he’s a great rebounder and he’s a pretty good fundamental defensive player.

So what keeps the Wiz from signing Dwayne Jones to a 10-day contract, and if they like what they see – sign him to a contract for the rest of the year, and a non-guaranteed contract to next year (like the Spurs did with Gee) -

That gets them an exclusive look at him in Summer League, and Training Camp… If they like him, they could keep him on the roster, or send him back to the Dakota Wizards (still under contract) – If they don’t like him, cut him during Training Camp..

It would be like buying a Second Round pick for $55K -

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by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jones is an enigma of sorts

I really can’t put my finger on it (I was told it’s because he can’t score in the post), but here’s what I wrote about him after two failed call-ups.

I blog at Ridiculous Upside. I know you'll love it.

by Scott Schroeder on Mar 29, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

really

Maybe the guy doesn’t measure 6’10"…. or perhaps he’s one of those players that does not interview well, or do well in individual work outs…. Perhaps he’s just a “gamer”…

Anyway, as to signing someone for the rest of the year, I was talking in generalities… Maybe Jones is not the right guy (or maybe he is)… but the Wizards will only have 4 players under contract at the end of the season – and assuming they actually use all their draft picks (and don’t SELL one) – they’ll have 7 players.

I don’t know what their Free Agent plans are, but they’ve only got about $22-24 Million… Even if they just pay out MLE type money (or go for one Max contract guy, and the rest Veteran Minimum contracts), that will only get them about 4 players… Seems to me like they should be looking very hard at the D-League to see if they can round out their roster…. and guys like Gee and Mike Harris seemed like players worth taking a flier on for NEXT year. …..

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by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Count Six Players Under Contract

Arenas – $17,730,693
Blatche – $3,260,331
Thornton – $2,814,196
Young – $2,630,503
McGee – $1,601,040
Ross (assuming he picks up his player option) – $1,146,337

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

"...don't ever think it can't get any worse, because it can. There's no question, it can." -- Flip Saunders unintentionally coining the new Washington Wizards motto

by cuppettcj on Mar 29, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

you are right, of course....

SIX players under contract for $24.4 Million *…. PLUS roughly $4.5 Million for two first round draft picks…. PLUS about $1.8 Million for 4 empty roster spots = $30.7 Million

If the Salary Cap is at $52 – $54 million , that would leave the Wizards about $21 – $23 Million under the Cap to sign Free Agents…

 * assuming Howard and Foye are not retained
 * assuming Ross picks up his player option

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crap, the Spurs don’t have any more roster spots to keep teams from stealing Toros players away. Stay away from Marcus Williams! :P

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by Tim C. on Mar 29, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I seriously think

They’d cut somebody to keep Williams around, but I don’t know who (maybe Jerrells since they’ve given him random money a few times already?).
Regardless, Wizards fans, Marcus Williams is like Shaun Livingston, but a better scorer. That’d be a fun backcourt to watch.

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by Scott Schroeder on Mar 29, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

BTW

Ernie Grunfeld could not be any more clear about the rest of this season. He might as well change the Wizards’ slogan this season to: “Wizards basketball 2009-10 – Don’t Bother Watching; We Don’t Care, Why Should You?”

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Mar 29, 2010 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Is Richard Jefferson a Free Agent This Off-Season?

Will he exercise his ETO? Do we have enough Cap room to sign him, resign Miller, resign Foye, and still get Kyle Korver and Darko?

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Mar 29, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

In Other News...

Ernie Grunfeld just announced that he is picking up Josh Howard’s $12 million player option for next season. And he has just finalized a trade that will send Andray Blatche to the Spurs in exchange for Richard Jefferson and a player to be named later.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Mar 29, 2010 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Player to be named later

being Gee… recently signed by the Spurs….

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Mar 29, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good Morning CBDirty30!

Just get the news? How’s being a Wizards fan treating you?

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Mar 29, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn all of that....

I don’t know what is worse – the play on the court or the play in the front office….. Cap space my behind. Gee’s potential salary would not anyone’s pennies jingle. I am going to STOP trying to figure out the method to this foolishness. But BET Blatche & Mcgee are gone next… They better make their reservation with JK Movers from now….

by 2StepsAway on Mar 29, 2010 12:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Goddammit Ernie.

Please fire him.

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Mar 29, 2010 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Stupid stupid stupid.

Worst. Season. Ever.

Ok… maybe not (its the Wizards/Bullets) but jeez, every time something starts looking good this season, it goes horribly wrong.

I fully expect Shaun Livingston’s head to explode, Scanners-style, 4 minutes into the next game.

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by mamemimo on Mar 29, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually, You Might Be Right
Worst. Season. Ever.

Ok… maybe not (its the Wizards/Bullets)…

Maybe so. I have been a fan since 1989, and I can’t think of a worse season all things considered. True, we won’t set or tie the franchise record for most losses in a season, but we will come close. Combine that with the pre-season expectations, the gun incident, Flip calling this team the dumbest he has ever coached, Blatche getting suspended, Flip saying that he could take any Wizard one-on-one and score, the trade deadline fire sale, the resetting of expectations after the trades, then Josh Howard’s ACL tear, Blatche trying to get suspended again but failing, the franchise’s worst losing streak in its history, and everything else that I can’t even think of right now, I think it is reasonable to say that this season is indeed the worst season ever.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

"...don't ever think it can't get any worse, because it can. There's no question, it can." -- Flip Saunders unintentionally coining the new Washington Wizards motto

by cuppettcj on Mar 29, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

At least last year we didn’t have the drama…

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by mr. 91 on Mar 29, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

GOD!!!

This pisses me off to no end. Letting this guy go is like finding a piece of gold and then losing it because you didnt wanna pay a tiny bit for a locker to keep it safe and then someone steals it.

by CBDirty30 on Mar 29, 2010 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

This just make me think the Wiz really had no intention of adding anybody for long term..

They are just looking for bodies to fill the roster and finish out the season at minimal cost. I think Gee was definitely a high-energy guy that could’ve been utilized as I believe he was a leading scorer in one game, leading rebounder in another. I can clearly see the Wiz are more focused on the buget more than quality of players.

by TheRealBigMike on Mar 29, 2010 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

completely inexcusable

ernies got to go… gee’s no all-star, but he has (no pun intended) ridiculous upside and him and shaun livingston were the only reasons to watch the rest of this season… great i cant wait for the quinton ross show… i need a f-in drink

by jeffbenson on Mar 29, 2010 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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