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2010 NBA Draft Prospect Profile: Evan Turner

Editor's Note, by rook6980: This is the second installment in what I expect to be a regular posting on Draft Prospects.  This series will take a look at the top draft prospects for the 2010 NBA Draft in June. The plan is to have one or two analyses a week, leading up to a flurry of activity the week of the draft. My DVR is crammed full of college games, and I'm watching them as fast as I can (between Wizards games).

Draft Prospect assessments:
John Wall
Wesley Johnson        Upcoming
DeMarcus Cousins    Upcoming

Evan Turner

  • Team: Ohio State
  • Height / Wt:  6'7" / 205
  • Position: Shooting Guard / Small Forward
  • Age: Junior, 21 Years Old

Turner is smooth. I mean smooooooove. He will likely play shooting guard in the NBA but at 6'6" (with a 7-foot wingspan) he could also switch to small forward. He's got the passing skills and vision of a point guard, but he rebounds like a power forward, averaging 11.2 rebounds per 40 minutes (pace adjusted). Draft Express says his best case scenario is Brandon Roy, but while I think that Turner is a lot like Roy, particularly offensively, I think Turner is a better rebounder and will be a better defender.

Star-divide

So I was able to watch three full games, and part of another. In all the games I watched, Evan Turner was easily the best player on the court, by a long shot. Against Michigan, he dominated in the second half, ending with 18 points, 12 rebounds and seven assists. He had several big shots in the second half, including a pretty baseline jumper to start the scoring in the second half. He also scored on a dribble spin move in the middle, and a gorgeous step back jumper mid-way through the period. His defense was again stellar. Against Illinois, he had a very poor first half, shooting only 4-12 and committing some careless turn overs. Turner was OSU's primary ball handler, even bringing the ball up court against Illinois' very good PG DeMetri McCamey. He was the Buckeye's playmaker, initiating their Offense and directing traffic. Then in the second half, he shot 3-4 and led the Buckeyes to a share of the Big-10 title. 

He handles the basketball like a point guard. He's equally prolific with either hand, and can drive to the hoop either way; making him difficult to defense. He has tremendous vision and play making skills (5.8 assists per game), and it's gotten to the point that I'm surprised that no one has suggested making him into a Point Guard, though he has been frequently used as a point forward at Ohio State this year. They've even had him guard four positions on the court.

Turner has excellent skill level, with advanced moves (spin dribble, change of gears, hesitation moves, etc). He is excellent at getting to the basket, and he's strong enough to absorb contact and finish. That ability to get to the rim means that he draws a fair number of fouls, getting to the line about six times a game; and he is a good free throw shooter at 73% ... (although he was better last year at 79%)

Turner is a solid shooter, with good form and a high release; especially good at pulling up from 15-17 feet. Superb coming off screens, where his driving ability, coupled with his deadly mid-range shot and his passing ability makes him particularly dangerous. Although Ohio State doesn't run it enough, I can see him being a big threat in the NBA with the pick-and-roll. He's not much of a three-point threat (28%), but fortunately, he seems to understand his limitations and shoots very few long shots.

He's not as good a shooter spotting up and he does need to improve his shooting range and cut down on his turnovers. But having said that, Evan Turner has a tremendously versatile all-round Offensive game.

Often times, when there's a lot of good things to say about a player's offensive talents, things start sounding a bit different when you get around to talking about their defense. That's not the case with Turner. He's an excellent one-on-one and help defender; physical and in-your-face. He seems to jack it up a notch late in games when his team needs a critical stop. He's long, and strong, but he's also quick, so he can defend multiple positions. Those qualities also help him when he gets switched off to a smaller or bigger opponent. Turner contests every shot, getting about a block a game, but he causes many more misses. Finally, he plays hard on both ends of the court, not taking any time off on defense to save energy for the offensive end.

Strengths:  

  • All-around offensive game
  • Great creator off the dribble
  • Excellent pull-up jumper
  • Outstanding body control
  • Finishes through contact
  • Can initiate the offense
  • Ball-handling and court vision
  • Ability to set up his teammates
  • Can finish strong at the rim
  • Excellent rebounder
  • Good defensive fundamentals
  • Physical defender
  • Contests everything
  • Can guard multiple positions
  • Intangibles: Intensity, high character, Experienced, Unselfish , Winner, High Basketball IQ, Plays hard

Weaknesses:

  • Turns the ball over
  • Tries to do too much sometimes
  • Not a great 3-point shooter - needs to improve his range

If the Wizards are lucky enough to land the #2 pick, Evan Turner would fit right in as their starting SG next year. He would not only give them the perimeter defender they need, but I think he would also be a near perfect fit next to Gilbert Arenas at point guard. He could provide another playmaker next to Arenas and a great pick-and-roll partner for Andray Blatche or JaVale McGee. His ability to get to the rim would give the Wizards two drive and dish threats in the back-court. Finally, I love the fact that he's big and can match up with the other big SG's in the East.

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Drool....

I agree that because of his versatility, he would be perfect next to Arenas. He also would work next to Foye, erasing many of Foye’s shortcomings, making resigning Foye a real option.

Keep up the good work, Rook.

by disgrunted on Mar 11, 2010 9:27 AM EST reply actions  

Best fit?

I know John Wall is the best prospect in the draft, but this guy looks like the best fit. We need a big, playmaking, defensively-capable SG most in my opinion. (You can make a case for center or SF being greater areas of need – even PG, although I think Arenas is coming back – but I think McGee and Thornton are further along than NY.)

The Washington Wizards: providing career scoring nights for unknown opposing bench players since 2004.

by mamemimo on Mar 11, 2010 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

Evans is the real deal

I’m a terp but was forced to watch big ten ball cause my fiance is from purdue.

this guy is the only legit bulls eye in the draft. He does everything so fluidly. He’s like a high schooler playing against grade school kids.

I would draft him over wall.

by jdgreger on Mar 11, 2010 10:09 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed

He handles the ball EVERY possession.

The ENTIRE offense runs thougth Turner in every game I watched.

He almost looks like he is not trying – that is how easy the game comes to him. And I agree 100% with ROOK that he seems to turn it on at the end of games. It is like he knows he is the whole team and has to save his energy to try to really dominate at the end.

I am sure everyone game plans for him, yet he still seems to “get his” as well as set up the shooters around him. Perfect fit for the us.

shine like bald head, smoke trees call me log head

by ThaCaronic on Mar 11, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah
He handles the ball EVERY possession.

Not only handles the ball…. but in the 3.5 games I watched, he was bringing the ball up court against the opponent’s Point Guard (generally a smaller, quicker player)…. Even against full-court pressure, he was easily able to bring the ball across the time line and initiate the offense …. He’s too good a passer to trap… and his ball handling skills are as good as any PG he plays against in the Big-10…

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Mar 11, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't watched a ton of Ohio State

But he is my favorite player, for the Wiz, in this draft. I like the Roy comparison. When I do see Turner play, he doesn’t blow me away with his scoring talent. I actually wasn’t sold on him early in the year because I didn’t see a ton of skill, putting the ball in the bucket. But that may be because he just makes it too easy on himself at this level. The competition really might just be below him. Kinda like Roy, he doesn’t make those crazy highlight plays on a nightly basis, because he is so fundamentally good.

Let it snow- ping-pong balls, from the heavens.

by returnofswagger on Mar 11, 2010 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

EXACTLY
he doesn’t make those crazy highlight plays on a nightly basis,

It’s obvious that he’s athletic… It’s obvious that he’s fast, quick, and can explode to the basket – when he needs to…. but he seems to prefer to make the simple play instead.

You don’t see him windmill dunking on the break, but rather two handed dunks. His footwork is very good. Fundamentally he’s like a Coaches dream. He’s like an ultra-conservative player that can do pretty much ANYTHING on the court – playing a game that values high-risk spectacular plays. It’s a testament to just how good he is that people rank him so highly – even though he doesn’t look spectacular when he plays.

You watch him in games – and you say to yourself…. “that was nice”…. “pretty shot”…. “good pass there”…. “nice spin move”…. …. but you never explode from the couch saying WOW, or WHOA!!!! But at the end of the game, you look and Turner has 22 points, 12 rebounds and 8 assists…… quietly, efficiently….

And if you’re a basketball fan… just watch Evan Turner on Defense. Always in a defensive crouch… great position… keeps in front of his man… contests every shot… and blocks out on defensive rebounds. As fundamentally sound a defensive player (for a College player) I’ve seen since Shane Battier was at Duke.

The only area of his game that he tends to make overly aggressive plays is in his passing. He occasionally tries to make pin-point, dangerous passes…. Frequently they work.. but that’s also why he’s just so-so on his assist to Turn Over ratio.

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Mar 11, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Based on all of this

Rook, why do you put Turner behind Wall? Not questioning, just wondering the basis. Thanks.

by disgrunted on Mar 11, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

second the question

I’ve watched Turner and Wall three times each. I was blown away by Turner. Wall is clearly talented, but I never saw him take control of a game as Turner’s did. And the stat I can’t get over is that Turner’s has passing numbers equal to Wall. Very slightly fewer assists, same number of turnovers. Higher assist rate.

I agree with rook’s analysis of both players, but not the conclusion. I’d take Turner every time.

by bwoodsxyz on Mar 11, 2010 4:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

LOL!

There is no way I would ever take Wall over Turner.

What games did you watch wall play? The dude is a sure thing. He hit a game-winner in his first collegiate game! He’s also two years younger than Turner, so if we cant unload Arenas we have our PG of the future. He’s like Rondo with a reliable jumper!

Turner is a hell of a player, but he just doesnt have the superstar potential Wall has. Worst case scenario for Wall is that he ends up being a 17pt-6ast-4rbd guy.

by tw10 on Mar 11, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

i want vasquez on the wizards too. the kid can play basketball. hes a fiery ass competitor and that what the wiz need.

by tw10 on Mar 13, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

You and I may have watched different games....

I did see Wall take over games… several times.

But, like I said – either guy would be a terrific pick for the Wizards…

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Mar 11, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Good question

1. Wall plays PG – a much harder skill position to fill.
2. An elite pass-first PG (Nash, Paul, Kidd, Harris) will keep your team relevant more than an elite Shooting Guard
3. Wall has an explosiveness that Turner doesn’t

But even with those points….. it’s very, very close…..

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Mar 11, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

oh man…i saw turner bury that gw 3 against michigan…ill definitely give the kid his props.

by tw10 on Mar 13, 2010 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

A shooting guard

with actual shooting guard SIZE would be nice to have. And we may just be playing ourselves back into the mix for the 2nd or 3rd most lottery balls.

by CJHutch on Mar 11, 2010 2:51 PM EST reply actions  

I would love to see Arenas, Pietrus or Durant, Josh Howard, and Bosh on the floor next year with some good draft prospect. Is that happening 100% not does it mean its bad idea, no. But just imagine

Arenas PG Livingston/Foye
Durant SG Miller/Young
Josh Howard SF Al Thorton
Andray Blatche PF Singleton
Bosh C McGee

And some draft prospect waiting on the bench

Those positions are adjusted but I think it would work perfectly.

by Unxpekted on Mar 11, 2010 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

durant isnt a FA in 2010

and i dont think they would have the cap space to field a team like the one you mentioned.

by tw10 on Mar 11, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah thats very true. What about Pietrus or Bosh?

by Unxpekted on Mar 11, 2010 5:45 PM EST reply actions  

Forget Bosh

He will either stay in Toronto – where he can get a 6-year Max contract….

OR

He will go to Miami to play in the sun with Wade – and get a 5-year Max contract there (with no State Tax)

OR

He will go to Dallas (Bosh was born and raised in Dallas) in a Sign-and-trade – for a 5-year Max contract.

There’s nothing in Washington to lure him here…..

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Mar 11, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

This is the best time of year!

During a bad season, and before the lottery, not knowing where you’re gonna draft and hoping its #1. However, #2, is looking pretty right now. I really like Turner, I think he’d be a good compliment player to our team (the team that includes Gil). I think he’ll take his lumps initially in the league, but once he adapts to the NBA game, he’s gonna be a very nice player.
He has that “Larry Hughes-type sidekick guard” quality to him. Can bring the ball up, slash and score, can defend. I really am liking a Turner to DC possibility!

by SkinsWizStangs on Mar 11, 2010 6:46 PM EST reply actions  

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