Will The Real Andray Blatche Please Stand Up?
by Rook6980 on Mar 1, 2010 8:00 PM EST
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PrintI've been watching the Wizards team for the last 7 games, wondering what it is I see that is so different from the team before the trades. Yes, I see more "energy" - whatever that means.... That term (energy) is hard to put into words, but I can sure see it on the court.
The players seem to be setting better screens, making crisper cuts, and running fewer isolations; In other words, they're trusting the Offense. There's less dribbling, looking for a one-on-one opportunities and more passing and cutting. It seems like there are more (and better) shots taken deep in the shot clock than before the trades.
But there's something else that I couldn't put my finger on until Mike wrote about how Andray Blatche is hitting his shots. But it's not just about Blatche hitting shots, but WHERE he's taking those shots; and the incredible rate he's making them.
Andray is one player from the old roster that has really accepted the opportunity and stepped up to the challenge.
More after the jump.
Andray Blatche, after taking over the starting Power Foreward duties for last 7 games, is shooting 56.4%. If Andray had been doing that all year, it would put him in the top 10 in the League in shooting percentage.
Even better, it's the KINDS of shots that Andray has been taking that makes a big difference. Over 70% of Andray's shots are from 15 feet in; and he's making an excellent 61.2% of those shots. That is a huge difference from the kinds of shots and the percentages that All-Star Antawn Jamison was putting up for the Wizards. Jamison shot 47.5% of his shots from 16-feet out; and was making only 35.9% from that range (33.5% from the 3-point line).
The look and feel of this team has gone from an outside-oriented team, to a team that takes and makes more inside shots; or rather, closer shots.
The other thing that has struck me is the efficiency with which Blatche is scoring. Let's take a look at Mike's shot locations chart (via HoopData) but add a line for just the last 7 games - the games where Andray has been the Starter.
Wow. Those are incredibly efficient shooting numbers. I wouldn't worry about the 3-point percentage.... he's only taken 6 in 7 games; and remember, 70% of Andray's shots are coming from 15 feet and in.
The "new" Andray Blatche is averaging 38.4 minutes, 26.6 points, 11.7 rebounds, and 3.4 assists per game.
The increase in Blatche's scoring cannot only be attributed to getting more minutes or more shots - but also to a dynamic change in his shooting efficiency. Further, the increase in stats is not only confined to his scoring; his rebound rate and assist rate have gone up, with a corresponding drop in foul rate. NOT just his rebounds per game, but his rebound rate has jumped. "Old" Andray rebounded at a rate of 9.1 per 40 minutes - the "new" Andray is rebounding at a rate of 12.2 per 40 minutes (which puts him in Brendan Haywood/Chris Bosh/David Lee territory).
The doubter in me keeps saying "it's only been 3 games"... it's only been 5 games..... it's only been 7 games"... just wait, he'll revert to the "old" Andray Blatche with more pedestrian shooting percentages any day now - - - - But the fan in me says, that he's been showing us these flashes of incredible potential for three years. What if this "new" Andray Blatche is the "real" Andray Blatche?
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chances are this will stick…once youve struggled and taste success…you dont revert back so easily
im excited
by les boulez bomber on Mar 1, 2010 8:15 PM EST reply actions
He could still revert to his old ways
But we’ve never seen him on a tear like this before. What a pleasant surprise to an otherwise dismal season.
But what’s causing this? How did he all of a sudden become an efficient, smart shooter? From an earlier post, there appeared to be a correlation between minutes and FG%. Is this really all about minutes and touches? Seems like it’s more than that. Fewer bad choices (behind the back moves, etc.). Maybe he’s listening to his coach.
The best thing
Is this is a story about human redemption. How many times has Blatche failed? How many times was he oh so close to screwing it all up? And now, it looks like he is the franchise. Sure, he could still screw it up again. Sure, he could regress. But even if he regress a bit, he is still a very good basketball player.
We often talk about athletes exorcising demons – most of those demons happen on or off the court. Blatche had demons on both places. His numbers look like a changed man. His actions seem to be of a mature man. Blatche is no longer a boy. I’m glad we got to see this human drama. I hope it has a championship ending.
outstanding analysis
I know I keep getting lectured by others telling me “stats don’t tell the whole story”, but your in-depth analysis of AB’s play is undeniable: He is an extremely talented player, who is on the way to being a bonafide star in this league.
I tend to think
we’ve got this Andray for the long haul. Really, it’s the same stuff he’s always done, just in more volume and with much more consistency (not to mention confidence).
Now, on the other hand, I’m a little worried about Mike Miller. Does anyone else get the impression that he just doesn’t mesh with this team as well as he did with the “old team”? Don’t get me wrong, I really like his game. But I feel like his role as the “do everything” guy of the offense has deteriorated with the new additions sharing the ball a lot more than the old guys. I heard an interview with Blatche the other day where he said that he likes to “kick it to Miller for a three” when he’s double teamed down low. That sounds great, and it’s what I’ve been waiting for. But Miller’s unwillingness to pull the trigger has kept it from happening enough.
Like I said, maybe it’s just me. But Miller doesn’t seem to be having the effect on this team that he did on the last one.
miller
i noticed the same thing. He played better with the “old team” of GA, AJ,CB because those guys drew more defensive attention, leaving MM to do his thing (shoot, pass, etc.). Now, this team doesn’t have any established stars, and he happens to be closest thing. As a result, teams are keying on him a bit more, and he doesn’t have as much room to manuever as he used to. But he really needs to be more aggressive and start firing off more jumpers.
Miller just needs to be ready to shoot when AB is doubled team
He will probably pass it though. He’s not a good fit for this team right now. He’s scared to shoot and he’s useless trying to create off the dribble.
He should just catch and shoot or catch and pass.
I don't think he's playing worse
Miller usually makes the right basketball play. On a team with a bunch of chuckers who stand around when they don’t have the ball, that stands out. Now that the rest of the guys are moving the ball and making better cuts, he doesn’t look as impressive. I think he’s still playing just as well though, and maybe contributing more. He’s no all-star, and he may pass up some shots he should take, but I like him even more on a team that plays the right way, because he’ll get more assists and ‘hockey assists’. The numbers back up that thinking. His regular assists are up — averaging 5.1 over the last 7 games versus 3.2 in roughly the same minutes before that. Nobody counts hockey assists, but I’d bet dollars to donuts those are up too.
do u think it is because the team as a whole is passing and running the offense better? at the start of the season, miller stood out as one to move the ball. could others be stepping up and making his contributions less obvious? just asking
by les boulez bomber on Mar 2, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Miller May Be Washed Up
It looks to me that Miller lacks the general athleticism to play the NBA SG position. He can’t
get by his man or get separation to get open shots. He’s got to spot up and even then, his
lack of agression is hurting the team. He has to make himself a factor scoring or he will
not be back! I think Blatche is the real thing. I wouldn’t mind seeing Gilbert and Blatche on
the floor together-see if they have good chemistry…maybe add an athletic shooter, a
center(perhaps)….Al Thornton’s pretty good. A little quicker and more athletic than expected
The analysis of Blatche’s play is outstanding-great post!! Keep ‘em comin’!!.
OK, so if he's
“washed up”, how much worse can that trade look? Personally, I’m not sure he’s washed up. I just think he’s better suited to be a spot up shooter. He just needs to actually SHOOT the ball.
Thornton I agree with. He has really impressed me. Frankly, I don’t understand how some of the people on here are down on him, saying he has no upside. I like him. He reminds me a LOT of Jerome Kersey.
Good analogy...
Kersey was underrated too, as I remember.
I can see the Kersey in him. Good call.
Thornton seems to jump better.
I think one thing people are down on is that he seems to be a shoot-shoot-shoot guy. At a time when the team is all fresh and new and trying hard to work together, he seems to look for (and force) his shot a lot. I worry about down the road, that he’ll be even worse. I just don’t like black holes on the team. That said, for me it’s more of a slight concern at the moment and I’m more than willing to give the guy a chance to prove himself.
by MR on Mar 2, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
I dunno
Kersey was a helluva leaper in his time. He woulda won the dunk contest (forget which year) if not for Jordan. Which is something a LOT of guys can say.
But Thornton definitely reminds me a lot of Kersey. Both explosive jumpers, bigger bodied at the small forward spot, and kind of a “controlled rage” on offense. By that, I mean they seem like they’re OOC. but then the ball makes it through the hoop.
He's Kersey without Kersey's finishing ability
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
You Don't Think Thornton Finishes Well?
I happen to think that finishing is one of his strengths.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
Anecdotally, Thornton's missed a ton of gimmies
Will check stats when I get a chance.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
I don't know....
Hoopdata shows him making almost 67% of his shots at the basket…. higher than last year (63%) when he was with the Clippers – and about the same rate as Shaq this year…
Not up there with Dwight Howard (73.9%) or Marc Gasol (70%), but a respectable percentage of makes at the rim nonetheless.
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
I'm Hoping it's Just a Temporary Blip
When I watch Thornton, I see a guy who attacks the rim without hesitation and has made more than a few tough baskets from less than 2 feet. He has gotten blocked a few times, but overall I see him as a good finisher.
Ironically, I also think this way based on anecdotal evidence. One such play that impressed me occurred during the 1:01 mark of this video, when Thornton slammed down the ball over Kris Humphries during a fast break. I kept thinking he would attempt the layup, but opted for the tougher slam instead and made it despite getting hammered from Humphries. Overall, Thornton had 20 points in 40 minutes on 7-13 shooting from the field and made all six of his free throw attempts. Those were some solid stats right there.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
It's Thornton's Age
Even though he hasn’t been in the league that long, he’s already 26. Typically in in the NBA, players reach their prime right about at the age he is at. So while he’s good, and maybe can continue to play hard, one shouldn’t expect the same type of leaps that other 3rd or 4th year players sometimes have.
He also seems to play mostly just a one-on-one game, and has a reputation for that. Not selfish, but just not as adept as others at running plays and getting his shots within the regular offensive flow.
If he’s not the starting small forward of the future for us, he at least is a great 20-25 minutes off the bench scorer.
Thornton is attacking the rim...good things happen
He was traded cause he fell in love with his jumper this year and didn’t pass.
Now he’s attacking the rim and is also passing.
It’s a good start. Can’t ask for more out of the guy.
Actually
Only 58% of his shots were jumpers this year with the Clippers, as opposed to 64% last year and 70%! in 2007/08.
The data proves the complete opposite point you’re making.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Perhaps
But it does show that as Thornton’s career has progressed, he has been steadily relying less and less on his jumper and attacking the basket more. I don’t know why the Clippers felt compelled to trade him, but I do know that he has put up the best numbers of his career here, albeit in a very small sample size.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
More cap space I think
And they never ran, so they never took advantage of one of Thornton’s strengths.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
What actually happened be DAMNED
I know better than those pesky facts… In reality, he wasn’t efficient and may have been a blackhole…but your original claim is verifiabily false.
I don’t know why he is performing better here. We might be playing to his strengths more/meshes with this teams construction better. Or it could be random noise.
His “hot streak” hasn’t been nearly as hot as Blatche which could lead us to conclude with a small sample and a smaller change in magnitude, we are just witnessing a random blurp in his production – not a change in his talent level.
Never let the facts get in the way of an argument
Also, his assist percentage is basically the same in his first six games here than it was in LA this year (7.1% here, 7.2% there), so he’s as much a black hole here as there.
What’s changed is that he’s rebounding way more and scoring way, way more efficiently. The question here is whether this efficient scoring is sustainable.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Not a Bad Ceiling
So far for the Wizards, Al Thornton has been averaging 17.4 points off of 13.2 shot attempts per 36 minutes. He has a PER of 18.5 and a true shooting percentage of .572. This to go along with observably good defense. If this is Al’s ceiling, it’s not a bad one. I just hope he can maintain his steller play. He doesn’t have to get better.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
EXACTLY
that’s what my point is. He’s averaging about 16 and 6 since he’s been with us. And that’s without us really running any plays for him, plus he came off the bench for the first 3 or 4 games. Funny, but if I remember correctly, the LAST small forward we had (what was his name again?) averaged about 16 and 6, but didn’t play defense like Thornton does. And, if memory serves me correctly, we actually had championship aspirations with the last small forward.
We do run a lot of plays for him, actually
He gets whatever isolations Blatche doesn’t.
But I also think he’s getting points in transition. I’m going to take a closer look tonight.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
He's Also Getting Put-Backs
I’ve observed at least one or two put-back baskets a game from him.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
I Think Miller is Adjusting His Role
He had to play one way to be successful earlier this season, now I think he is still adapting to the new cast of characters. I did notice a small uptick in shot attempts from him the past two games. Especially in the Knicks game, I saw him catch and shoot a couple of 3’s without hesitation. Assuming he continues to progress as he adapts, I think he’ll be alright.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
Because He Didn't Look Comfortable Doing So
I’m convinced Flip ordered him to take a couple of those to get his shooting going.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
yeah, great work.
when you do these analyses, is it possible to have the number of observations included somewhere? or is that too much of a pain?
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by newmaniumreveler on Mar 1, 2010 10:54 PM EST reply actions
What do you mean number of observations?
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
i speak geek - it's my job
that would be, i think, like the # of shot attempts, # of makes – the actual #’s used to calculate the percentages.
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Mar 1, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
then, if we want to get nuts, we can calculate the Z score
to determine if the improvements are statistically significant, or just noise in the data.
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Mar 2, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
Here’s a link to a spreadsheet I did – tracking his stats LINK
The link for the Hoopdata raw data on charting shots “at the rim”, < 10 feet, etc… was in the article… but here it is again http://www.hoopdata.com/gamelog.aspx?player=Andray%20Blatche
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
bad-ass. thanks!
Z scores and sigmas, here i come!
by abstractcitizen on Mar 2, 2010 8:07 AM EST up reply actions
It has been awhile...
…you all know I’m glad to see Mr. Jamison go. Fake leader. How’s knucklehead #1 doing now? Mr. Blatche is right on. Remember my poll back in April 2009? Not many of you voted, but the majority voted correctly. And yes, I was right in saying "I believe that if you remove the “knuckleheads” you still have a 17 and 60+ team."
http://www.bulletsforever.com/2009/4/1/818836/the-knucklehead-equation-your
Now we got the real ball hogging knuckleheads out of town, we are making progress. You know I still like Gill, always will. Problem is he’s a 7 year old in an NBA body. Well now he has learned his lesson. Look, if Ray Lewis can come back Gil can too.
Al Thornton – great pickup. Don’t let him go. He’s yours starting SF. You don’t need Paul Pierce, you need Al Thornton.
by ucantstopbernard on Mar 1, 2010 10:57 PM EST reply actions
I don't understand
why it’s so hard so people to understand:
1) it takes playing time to improve;
2) the game is 85% mental so it takes confidence to improve and
3) when the coach and the vets treat you like dirt and you play behind Oberto and Steveson, you tune out and play like Oberto and Stevenson.
Blatche’s talent has been there to be developed. McGee can also be developed immensely as well.
Remember, Taps started McGuire 56 games last year. What a waste.
I hope it continues, obviously
but a little wait and see is called for. It’s cool that they are actually winning a decent amount of these games. I love his demeanor on the court – it’s very steady and focused.
As for who’s to blame for his slow-ish development, it’s everyone, but primarily, it’s just a result of the direction the team chose. This year was win now or bust. They busted. But I can’t blame the old vets for holding him back – the organization had big playoff thoughts the last few years (last year being an anomaly) so they we’re going to ride the vets.
Andray has benefited from Jamison’s professionalism, I think – he even mentioned it a few games ago.
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Mar 2, 2010 12:03 AM EST reply actions
I differ here...
This year was win now or bust. They busted. But I can’t blame the old vets for holding him back – the organization had big playoff thoughts the last few years (last year being an anomaly) so they we’re going to ride the vets.
but the role of the “vets” is to “lead” and to “make others better” and they did neither.
Getting Blatche to play this well earlier was what they should have been doing for their own championship aspirations, but they were too busy getting shots for themselves while treating Blatche like their annoying kid brother. This franchise has been doomed with 2 captains who felt “entitled” to take as many bad shots as possible and give poor effort on defense while criticizing the rest of the team. That, in a nutshell, explains the last 1.5 seasons of misery.
by JonathanJoseph on Mar 2, 2010 3:22 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
What was was.. What is is....
And what will be may be pretty interesting.
Blatche is pretty likely going to be a factor… Crystallizing all the comments I have read, the estimates range from LaMarcus Aldridge to Elvin Hayes, which is not a bad range.
Miller should not be resigned unless he becomes a viable long range threat again, and maybe even not then… His glue game worked with the old big three, but now he has no value unless he will take and make the kick out three when Blatche passes it to him out of a double team… but even if he can do this (i.e, be Kyle Korver at his best) how much of a contract does that merit? I would rather try to convince Howard to re-up for 1 one-year $4-5 million deal and see if he comes back to form.
Nick Young stirs up an incredible range of emotions… But the fact is that except for Josh Howard going down, he would be a complete afterthought at this point… He may yet be a productive player, the return of the Microwave, whatever, but I think it is going to have to be elsewhere.
And there is still Gilbert Arenas….
Gotta be the most interesting non-contender in the NBA… and they are playing hard.
Gotta be the most interesting non-contender in the NBA
The Clippers are pretty interesting too….
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
Eric Gordon is a nice piece for them...
but the zombie Baron Davis is a sad sight indeed… and they are welcome to Drew Gooden.
No, damn it
but now he has no value unless he will take and make the kick out three
He’s MORE valuable now. It’s frustrating to read these comments saying Miller’s only value is jacking lots of threes — it’s like you guys feel empty without a few selfish jerkoffs out there taking contested long jumpers. Miller plays smart. If all 5 guys do that for 48 minutes, we’ll win lots and lots of games. That’s called playing good basketball. I know it hasn’t happened here in a long time, but that’s no reason to reject it.
If you’re eager to criticize Miller, criticize his lack of footspeed on defense — that’s his biggest weakness on the court.
the one thing I'd like to see drey improve on...
is his attitude/body language. after foul calls not goin his way, he’s either in deep sulk mode, displays negative body language or takes an eternity to peel himself off the ground. a good attitude is a key facet of professionalism and what keeps so so players in the league longer than the ceilings of their performance and production. anyone agree?
by rzawrecktah on Mar 2, 2010 9:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I thought against NJ
he disagreed with a lot of calls but just stuck to his business and didn’t complain. I actually liked that.
by MR on Mar 2, 2010 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
I've seen improvement
Andre’s attitude and professionalism have improved dramatically since he became a starter. Most NBA players complain about fouls, it’s part of lobbying the refs, but Andre has been significantly more restrained and mature in doing it the past few weeks.
Body Language
You raise a very good point. Anyone who has attended games in the past year or two has to have noticed his complete lack of interest in what the coaching staff has to say during timeouts when they are not playing. I remember several games where Blatche was getting 15-20 minutes a game and just seemed disinterested on the bench. I’m heading to the Bucks game friday and I really can’t wait to see if there is a major difference here.
Nick still needs to work on this
Andre isn’t perfect, but he’s improving. Nick Young seems to be getting worse. Near the end of the NJ game, I believe after we had just tied the game, Saunders called a timeout. All the young players excitedly gathered around the coach to receive instruction, and Nick was on the outside, biting his nails and looking around nervously. I like Nick, but I think his mental insecurities are hurting his game right now just as much as anything else.
I think he needs
more lower body strength. (no point talking about his upper body, that’s obvious) As deep as he gets into the paint, I’d like to see more explosion out of him. He’s not one of these guys who are tied to the floor (Zach Randolph). Blatche can definitely jump. But he needs to be able to power through the defender down there, instead of relying on going under the basket all the time.
I realize this sounds like nit-picking, just don’t get me wrong. If he could average 26 and 11 permanently, then I’d say don’t change a thing. But now that he’s a focal point, teams are gonna start game planning for him. If he could gain some stand-still explosion, he would be nearly unstoppable.
Blatche is not a big jumper
He has some lift off of a running start or a drop step, but he’s never had a lot of lift coming out of his post moves, going for rebounds or his one on one defense. He mostly uses his length in those situations. The most you’ll see him get up is on a helpside block attempt.
Not a knock on him at all, you are who you are… I’m sure an incremental improvement could be had, but I don’t think we’re going to see him develop into a significantly more explosive jumper through weight training.
you're right there
but I guess I kind of blurred my point. I know he’s not an explosive leaper. But he IS 6’11", which means he can dunk from a standstill underneath the basket. He just can’t do it THROUGH defenders, or at least their outstretched hands/arms. A little more strength can help him with that.
he's smooth
it’s weird. it’s a kind of athleticism i suppose – it’s like super coordination as opposed to freakish jumping ability. he’s just got crazy skills and a quick b’ball brain. it’s really fun to watch.
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Mar 2, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Secret of 'dray's improvement?
Improvement seemed to coincide with removal of unsightly facial hair??
Just wait
till he gets his braces off.
Our lil Dray is really growing up.
shine like bald head, smoke trees call me log head
by ThaCaronic on Mar 2, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I love the way Blatche is playing, but...
…surges in shooting percentage like this usually don’t last. I hope it keeps up — even at something close.
For what it’s worth, there have been 16 players in league history to average 26 pts, 11 rebounds and 3 assists per game for an entire season.
1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (8 seasons)
2. Charles Barkley (1)
3. Elgin Baylor (7)
4. Wilt Chamberlain (5)
5. Billy Cunningham (1)
6. Julius Erving (3)
7. Patrick Ewing (1)
8. Connie Hawkins (2)
9. Karl Malone (2)
10. Bob McAdoo (2)
11. George McInnis (1)
12. Shaquille O’Neal (4)
13. Hakeem Olajuwon (2)
14. Bob Pettit (6)
15. Oscar Robertson (1)
16. Chris Webber (1)
by TheSecretWeapon on Mar 2, 2010 11:30 AM EST reply actions
Over 70% of Andray's shots are from 15 feet in
this cannot be overstated. he doesn’t try to play on the wing much anymore. he’s much smarter on the court. not sure what clicked exactly, and why now, but it’s good to see (finally).
and, perhaps most importantly, he could still get a lot better. he still has a lot of room for improvement. the fact that he’s finally exhibiting some learning out there… he could be really good. he’s a legit 7 footer. hopefully it won’t take another 5 years for him to reach the next plateau.
by DarrellWalkerFan on Mar 2, 2010 12:30 PM EST reply actions
Best 2nsd round pick
By the Wizards, ever?
by zeke5123 on Mar 2, 2010 2:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
you think he's better than MANUTE??
Or even Big Gheorge? I dunno.
Seriously though, he’s definitely up there. Before this, I would’ve said it was Rick Mahorn, though I admit his better days came after he left here. Ledell Eackles was a scorer for us. I’d take AB over Ledell though. I was never a big Ledell fan. Talk about a gunner.
It is sort of interesting how Ledell and Georghe have...
stuck around as community relations guys for the Wizzies. They were both fan favorites and all around nice guys. You are right tough, Ledell NEVER met a shot he didn’t take. Still, if Nick were as productive as Ledell, I am sure he would be a crowd pleaser too.
kinda like Al Thornton
funny, I thought of the NY comparison as well. Except, Ledell had a better all around game. Probably because he was fat.
Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!
How dare you!!!!
Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!
by Sean Fagan on Mar 2, 2010 3:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Energy
means , making plays , going to the ball , not waiting for the play to happen and the ball to come to you…..Dictating the play ! :)
Go Wizards !
by Mikko Leinonen's opposite on Mar 2, 2010 3:21 PM EST reply actions
Andray is Great and Getting Better...minus the undercover prostitute
Ledell Eackles hahahahaha …Now there is a Classic Bullet – Wizard …almost as many " tours " as Doug Overton …Where is CJ ? :)
by Mikko Leinonen's opposite on Mar 2, 2010 3:23 PM EST reply actions
Off topic, yet on topic ,
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Gerald-Henderson-is-better-than-Michael-Jordan-a?urn=nba,225258&post_comment=1&success=1
Damn, LOL …< not funny , yet funny …its Rip Hamilton reminder again…Yo MJ chk your ego at the door…oh well , now that was Teds choice there…bringing in MJ for managment..i guess it was cool for the fans , for a bit….EG did get Caron for …you know, that guy ….so overall Caron was a plus for essentially nothing….that was pretty cool when you think about it…EG , man
by Mikko Leinonen's opposite on Mar 2, 2010 6:57 PM EST reply actions
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- Kevin Love would like the NBA to take the MLB’s approach on All-Star games
- Kobe Bryant fires a few hilarious salvos at Jeremy Lin
- Brandon Jennings states the obvious regarding his 2014 free agency, everyone goes nuts
- The Facebook campaign to hire Will Ferrell for All-Star Game player intros is underway
- Video: Meet the infamous bearded guy that goes nuts by the 76ers’ bench
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