Washington Wizards vs. Charlotte Bobcats: Regular Season Game 50 Open Thread
by Mike Prada on Feb 9, 2010 6:37 PM EST
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PrintWashington Wizards at Charlotte Bobcats, Feb 9, 2010 7:00 PM EST
The Essentials:
Wizards (17-32) vs. Bobcats (24-25)
7 p.m.
Time Warner Cable Arena
TV: CSN
Radio: 106.7 The Fan
Notable Bobcats numbers this season
12th in expected winning percentage (.533)
27th in pace (90.7 possessions per game)
24th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (103.8 points/100 possessions)
5th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (102.9 points allowed/100 possessions)
Pre-game links
Rufus on Fire, SB Nation's Bobcats Blog
Queen City Hoops
Rufus on Fire game preview
GameDay Charlotte
| Tonight's Projected Starters | ||
|---|---|---|
| Wizards | vs. | Bobcats |
| Randy Foye | PG | Raymond Felton |
| Mike Miller | SG | Stephen Jackson |
| Caron Butler | SF | Gerald Wallace |
| Antawn Jamison | PF | Boris Diaw |
| Brendan Haywood | C | Nazr Mohammad |
Charlotte is a great defensive team and a terrible, yet pesky offensive team. In other words, they win by out-efforting you. Those types of teams tend to beat the Wizards every time. Throw in the fact that the WIzards haven't been home because of the snow and the fact that it's the last game before the all-star break -- which, trust me, the Wizards, more than ever, need because of all they've gone through -- and there's major letdown game potential tonight.
Then again, Charlotte just lost to a Chris Paul-less New Orleans team on Saturday, so they're kind of limping to the break as well.
Tyson Chandler's coming back for Charlotte, though I doubt he starts. Nazr Mohammad's doing just fine, and John Hollinger, for one, has him on his all-underrated storylines team (wait, that sentence made no sense). There's also a rumor going around that Charlotte's closing in on a trade that would send D.J. Augustin to Boston for Glen Davis, which makes sense because Boston needs a point guard and Charlotte needs a power forward. Finally, Gerald Wallace is in the dunk contest. That's what you need to know about Charlotte.
GO WIZARDS!
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Lots of people are going to take a "measured" and "patient" approach to being a Wizards fan
meaning – they’re not going to invest any significant amount of money (jerseys, tickets, etc…) or emotion in the team ….
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With Wallace and Jax, I can't say I see it happening
Their wing defense is outstanding.
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They run the break well
Charlotte does. Felton’s really improved.
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I will never figure out NBA blackout restrictions and NBA League Pass Rules
I live in North Carolina and 90% of Bobcats’ games are on Fox Sports South, the local network. Tonight though, the game is not on FSS, but I do get the game on Comcast through NBA LP.
This is the equivalent of living in DC, and not getting the Wizards/Bobcats game on Comcast, but getting it with the Charlotte announcers.
Just weird.
by John Park Williams on Feb 9, 2010 7:13 PM EST reply actions
Isn't Antawn Jamison from Lousiana?
Am I crazy?
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he was born there but moved young
to NC – my brain is full of useless info
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Feb 9, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
watching this one thinking it's probably the end of this era of Wizards
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by little stevie colter on Feb 9, 2010 7:17 PM EST reply actions
I'm going to go back one day
Rewatch the first six minutes of every game, and find out what percentage of those games Flip calls a timeout before the traditional TV timeout.
I’m guessing 40 percent, which is probably too low.
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Caron shoots a three in the corner with a man in his face
Shrug.
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No way Jamison would have gotten that foul call just now if he didn't whine earlier
Looked like a clear strip by Diaw.
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I think you're right
Still, Jamison was running back on defense with his head turned in the opposite direction. Argue during a dead ball or something.
But he probably would have missed anyway
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probably means butler just got traded
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by little stevie colter on Feb 9, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Mike Miller didn't pass on the break!
Wow!
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Love Phil saying Butler "really commits himself to the steal"
That should go on Caron’s tombstone. “Here lies Caron Butler, who fully committed himself to the steal.”
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I wonder what would go on everyone else's tombstones?
“Here lies Antawn Jamison, who never met a ref’s call he didn’t like”
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“Here lies Earl Boykins, who is dribbling as we speak.”
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Here lies Nick Young
playing defense the same way he did while alive
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I think the Bobcats are good evidence of where the Wizards DONT want to be in 3 years
Although they are improving and will probably make the playoffs this year and the next, they have set themselves to wallow in mediocrity for a couple of years, before starting a rebuilding process all over again.
Major contract commitments until 2013, low lottery picks who don’t contribute, and no player for the fan base to get excited about.
by John Park Williams on Feb 9, 2010 7:42 PM EST reply actions
They love Gerald Wallace there
But otherwise, the point still stands.
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i was about to say
except for gerald wallace. hard not to love that guy
by John Park Williams on Feb 9, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
hate him
reckless. ruined gil’s career, almost ruined yi’s career.
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Feb 9, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
I can see why you'd love him though if he was on your team
Plays hard, exciting, great two-way player, if a bit reckless.
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hard not to HATE that guy
he started this whole debacle…just imagine if he never falls into Gil’s knee lol
by SkinsWizStangs on Feb 9, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Dray's playing really well
Except for that odd fadeaway. But he needs more PT.
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It's a "trade somebody" comment
Of course, as soon as I type that, he commits a typical Dray TO.
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The more he plays
the fewer times he’ll do those kind of stupid things.
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Uch Dray
Keep those arms up. You’ve already cut him off, you don’t need to bring them down.
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Well, Nick Young committed a turnover
STEVENSON TIME!
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Yeah - funny
Buck said = Wizards looking for some offense here, as Stevenson is looking to check in……….
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Good, I wasn't the only one to notice that
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well he called for stevenson before Nick committed the turnover
he called for him after he flipped up that wild shot the possesion before
by SkinsWizStangs on Feb 9, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Well to be fair
someone reached in on Young as he was driving….. causing that “strange” shot…..
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I know I'm projecting here
But MJ looks kind of hung over. He had a long Super Bowl, after all.
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LOL
Miller passing up a 3 to pass it to Stevenson for a 3.
in fact, i think he skipped stevenson on the rotation and went straight to foye
by John Park Williams on Feb 9, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Boy, DJ Augustin is playing a lot tonight
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fans here, even though they are sparse, dont like the call
by John Park Williams on Feb 9, 2010 8:03 PM EST reply actions
Wait, wait, wait, Wizards announcers are saying someone else's arena is barely fun?
Pot, meet kettle.
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bear in mind, this is the best bobcats team ever
and they just returned from a long road trip. so first home game in a while
by John Park Williams on Feb 9, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
MM has 14 points on six field goals
With four rebounds, two steals and two blocks.
UNTOUCHABLE!
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i know this isn't about the game but it's almost halftime so it's something to talk about
On the ESPN rumor mill it says that Jamison is now our least likely player to be dealt, the Mavericks are focusing on getting Butler more then any other player, that the Cavs might stand pat with their roster, and that the reason we don’t want to trade Jamison to them is because of our rivalry. How much of all that do you guys think is true? And do you think eventually the Wizards will just settle soon and do the Big Z for Jamison trade?
I have a feeling Toronto might enter the mix for Haywood and/or Butler
by John Park Williams on Feb 9, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
They have nothing I'd want though
Too many long-term contracts. Plus, if I’m them, I stand pat. It took them half the season to find some chemistry, and they shouldn’t disrupt it now that they found it.
In fact, they’re having the season I figured the Wizards would have.
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They need to throw in salaries to make trades match up
And all their long-term contracts suck so much because they go past the 2011 CBA.
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Well, not all of them
But would you do Haywood for Marcus Banks and DeRozan? I’m not sure I would.
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And I'm pretty sure they wouldn't
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I wouldn't be shocked if they didn't deal Jamison, which would be awful
I haven’t heard any other team other than the Cavs as a possibility, and it’s not like Jamison is a must-have for them.
Jarvis Hayes has 15 points at the half against the Cavs tonight
Haha.
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Cavaliers
I think for them it boils down to how they feel they’ll fare against the Western Conference Champs, likely LA. Sure, they have the best record right now. And they’re on a long winning streak. And that probably makes them feel they shouldn’t be tinkering now. But if in the next few days LeBron says, “Hickson is playing great. But he won’t win us a championship. We need Antawn,” some deal might be worked out.
Thats why i think that deal might happen
Cuz we’ve heard that Lebron is the one pushing for Antawn, and the Cavs will do whatever they can to please Lebron to try and make him stay
by FNFWizardsFan on Feb 9, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Eh
They’re also 41-11 and all the other East contenders are struggling. They have no reason to fear Boston or Atlanta, and Orlando’s so up and down.
Plus, if they’re legitimately worried LeBron might walk, Hickson becomes even more important.
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if lEbron walks the Cavs are done, no matter what they do
keeping hickson won’t prevent doomsday
by John Park Williams on Feb 9, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Sure it will
Hickson’s a good, young player. You need guys like him to rebuild.
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They can't be worried about the East...
…but LeBron doesn’t want to make it to the Finals only to lose again. How confident he is in his squad will have a big impact on any moves the Cavs make.
On the whole, though, I agree that a trade (for Antawn, at least) is becoming increasingly unlikely.
I guess that's true
So what do you think the chances (% wise) of Jamison being traded are? I’m gonna be so pissed if he isn’t because of money and even more cuz i wanna see more of Blatche and McGee.
It's just a wild guess though
Days get measured in dog years leading up to the deadline.
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Also on ESPN rumor mill
Mark cuban said Beaubois is untouchable, except for maybe 2 players in the league he’d consider. Do you think one of them could be Butler, cuz it said the Mavericks are really looking at him right now
by FNFWizardsFan on Feb 9, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
Come on Twan, don't let Boris get that
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speaking of music, anyone check out the bonnaroo lineup
they have been releasing it all day
by John Park Williams on Feb 9, 2010 8:23 PM EST reply actions
How come I haven't seen that curl/fade play much this year?
That was a Detroit staple with Rip and Sheed.
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Mike and Antawn ran it pretty well there
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Right
Nobody’s Rip, but Mike would be a hell of a threat if he looked to shoot more. He ran a lot of pindowns in Memphis and Orlando.
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Butler open
waits until Wallace closes – now fires, and hits….
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Lots of players out there don't seem to be too happy with the officiating
Not like that’s anything new, though.
Is Blatche in bad foul trouble or something?
He was beasting
Talked to him at training camp
Great guy. I wish he was a better coach, but he’s a very nice dude.
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New tombstone
“Here lies Earl Boykins, who still hasn’t run a fast break properly.”
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From @noamschiller on Twitter
“Here lies Earl Boykins… though if he tried, he could probably stand up in here instead.”
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Earl Boykins does not know how to run a fast break
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I wonder what the pace of this game ends up as
Anecdotally, it’s been verrryyy slow.
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2 bench points and were in the third, almoat fourth q
Says all you need to know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Feb 9, 2010 8:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Well, Caron's man scored as Caron didn't get back
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i always find it funny that players will complain about a call even though there team scored on the possession anyway
like Blatche complaining that he got fouled on the layup even though the play worked out better since Haywood got the dunk
by John Park Williams on Feb 9, 2010 8:45 PM EST reply actions
typical Wizards end-of-quarter play
Boykins, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, lose the ball, dribble, dribble, throw up a shot after the clock expires…..
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But at least his field goal percentage wasn't affected
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jesus boykins. that's not acceptable
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by little stevie colter on Feb 9, 2010 8:46 PM EST reply actions
You mean the other definition of offensive, right?
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that was miller with the weird shot
by John Park Williams on Feb 9, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
I think Pryme's talking about the prior possession
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actually just watched it again, not a bad shot, he just tried to bank it
he probably makes it 8 out of 10 times
by John Park Williams on Feb 9, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
did anyone ever watch Freaks and Geeks?
by John Park Williams on Feb 9, 2010 8:55 PM EST reply actions
the girl in this CISCO commercial im pretty sure was the star
by John Park Williams on Feb 9, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
assuming the Comcast on NBA LP has the same commercials as you guys
by John Park Williams on Feb 9, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
That was the possession out of a timeout?
Ridiculous.
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without boykins
as the only other pg, this team could be playing .500 ball
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by little stevie colter on Feb 9, 2010 8:56 PM EST reply actions
ha - no
ANYONE mediocre.
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by little stevie colter on Feb 9, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
It makes me mad that Earl played so much in December, while Randy was in the doghouse
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yup. scoring 20 in his debut (a win) was a curse
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by little stevie colter on Feb 9, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
My favorite Wizards play:
Work the ball to Butler in the corner, let him pump fake and jab a few times, and then he shoots.
Haha, yeah
I mean, if he makes the shot, it’s great, but damn it’s boring sometimes to watch that over and over again.
and it's usually a looong 2
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by little stevie colter on Feb 9, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i love when he shoots the shot he just faked
Stephen Jackson and Jamal Crawford do the same thing. Its a flaw that players develop when they become the best player on a team by default
by John Park Williams on Feb 9, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
So ... Roddy Buckets ... Untouchable, ey?
(sends a Caron Butler highlight tape).
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Dominic McGuire needs remedial dribbling lessons
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There you go Caron
Nice catch and shoot there.
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rec'd
i hate that guy’s game for some reason
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by little stevie colter on Feb 9, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
unless we can get a real good young player, like Roddy or Rudy
then maybe keeping Butler for the rest of the year wouldn’t be that bad of a thing
its amazing how different the fortunes of the franchises would be
had the bobcats gotten chris paul or deron williams instead of raymond felton.
by John Park Williams on Feb 9, 2010 9:06 PM EST reply actions
Odd lineup for Charlotte
No center. Not sure that’s smart now.
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Antawn has looked really worn out lately
This isn’t directly related to anything specific in the game, but he’s just seemed sluggish and ineffective for the last few weeks.
I think he needs the All-Star break
He’s been playing way too many minutes.
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i think caron got him pretty good
i could hear that foul in AZ
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by little stevie colter on Feb 9, 2010 9:10 PM EST reply actions
There have been a TON of air balls tonight
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That's usually an indication of tired legs....
but neither team should be tired….
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Phil Chenier's commentary has been really on point all season, by the way
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He's been kinda boring in past seasons IMO
But this year, he’s been very good.
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MIKE MILLER IS JESUS!
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by Mike Prada on Feb 9, 2010 9:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
nice pick by dray to get him open
they have to work harder to get him open
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by little stevie colter on Feb 9, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
mj looks baked
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by little stevie colter on Feb 9, 2010 9:16 PM EST reply actions
Damn
Tough shot. Gotta tip your cap there.
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miller time
come on
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by little stevie colter on Feb 9, 2010 9:21 PM EST reply actions
Caron Butler stepback 30 footer
Here we comeee
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No, don't have Mike throw it in!
No, no, no!
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Charlotte defended it pretty well
Butler was the first option, Foye was second. They cut both off.
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Yeah
They just talked about it a little on Post game. AJ was a good option I was just concerned that he might have been tired.
by purpleonblack86 on Feb 9, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
but i dont like that curl play to butler coming around the pick to the corner
from that side of the court….he would have to square up the wrong way
I believe it was the same play they ran against Orlando
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