Caron Butler returns to Tuff Juice, gives Wizards fans one happy moment in a terrible season
It's about time you returned, Tuff Juice. We missed you. Thanks for coming back for at least one game.
Let's be honest: one win in February like this should not be enough to save this team. They've had their run, it was unsatisfactory, and now we need to rebuild like every team does. One need only look at the Detroit Pistons to see what happens when you try to rebuild while also remaining competitive.
That said, if this was the parting gift for this core, it was one hell of a parting gift. It's not easy to sit through rebuilding, but it's even harder to sit through the pre-rebuild. This has easily been the most difficult basketball-watching experience I've had in my life, and I'm sure that's also true for people much older than me. That said, we still watch for those times when we can cheer and be happy about the silly hobby we pour too many hours into. Tonight was one of those nights.
I hope I'll always remember this game as the last banner moment for the Arenas/Butler/Jamison/Haywood Wizards. For all the Wizards who participated in this moment tonight, thank you. Thank you for not giving up when you really should have. Thank you, Caron Butler, for going back to what you were, even if you should have gone back way earlier. Thank you to Randy Foye for making plays. Thank you to everyone who fought hard on defense. As a Wizards fan who has experienced this difficult year, thanks for at least giving me (and others) one happy moment this season.
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Grunfeld just chewed through his phone cord
He’s keeping this team together.
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Great "Dear Ernie" line
“Let’s be honest: one win in February like this should not be enough to save this team.”
No pre-trade deadline victory recap would be complete without it. All the same, great win tonight, go Wizards!!!
by morethesamewiz on Feb 5, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
Ron Thompson keeps saying that Howard has all of these post moves
Too bad (for Orlando) the guy didn’t use them tonight.
Howard has moves
He’s really been on an offensive roll of late, too. Give Haywood credit for playing him well- he still put up 20 and 18.
Hello.
And Thank You Vince Carter
for being Vince Carter
that trade was a bomb!!!
I really like courtney Lee on that team too.
by BayAreaBullet on Feb 5, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Hasn't worked out for either team yet...
But I must say ORL got the better end of it. I don’t know if would have given up Hedo AND Lee for Vince, but the trade itself was definitely in Orlando’s favor. Courtney has done very little for NJ (I guess that’s kind of obvious at 4-44), and even if he is a part of their rebuilding, he wasn’t going to be meaningful for the Magic.
The Magic's current cap situation is untenable
Having a starter on a rookie salary helps when you are paying big bucks to Howard, Lewis, and Nelson. He fit in well with them. He could hit 3’s. Create his own shot if needed and was an above average defender. In hindsight considering he has been injured this year I guess they did well but Carter is struggling over there and is stuck for atleast 2 more years.
by BayAreaBullet on Feb 5, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Would you rather have Lee or Ryan Anderson though?
I’d take Anderson. I’d say the bigger problem is that they spent all this money on Bass/Gortat/Barnes etc. when they already had a better, tighter rotation.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Marcin Gortat is a waste of money
The Magic gave him 5 years and 34 million dollars. He’s averaging 3.5 ppg this year.
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!
by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 5, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
He's a good player, but they didn't need both him and Bass
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
I'm not saying he's bad...
But wouldn’t you want a little bit more production for a guy you’re giving about 7 million dollars a year? Especially with Bass there too.
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!
by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 5, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
It's tough to put up numbers when you're playing behind the best center in basketball
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
In other words
Gortat for the MLE to be your starting center=defensible.
Gortat for the MLE to play 8-10 minutes a game behind Dwight Howard=ridiculous
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
True enough.
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!
by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 6, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Vinsanity
I’ve never been a big Vince Carter fan. Ever since he came into the league wtih the Raptors and had that amazing performance in the dunk contest he acts like he’s the baddest guy in the league, when he’s never really been much of anything besides a very good scorer.
Great win
For once, the Earl of Last Second Heroics wasn’t the guy to win it at the end for this team. Great road W.
by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 5, 2010 10:22 PM EST reply actions
One who eats goblins I would assume. Not sure how this applies to Caron, he seems quite goblin-free.
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!
by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 5, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
duh - because he ate them all
obviously
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Feb 6, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fhmp2ge00o
fast forward to 1:27
Curiouser and curiouser....
Not just the Wizzies success last night (which was odd enough, and Caron’s effort was greatly appreciated as we have all been so down on him of late… plus Foye is clearly a keeper)… but the Magic’s failure. They should be deeply concerned down there in the Magic Kingdom.
Assuming both teams arrive for tonight’s game in DC, I hope people find their way through the snow to see how the Wizzies do against the Hawks. I stayed up late in Warsaw to watch their game against Chicago last night. After a fast start they played stale found themselves down 6 at the start of the fourth quarter. The fourth quarter they got serious, beginning with a 16-2 run and that was that. Josh Smith had a triple double, Crawford rained down jumpers, Joe Johnson scored at will and Bibby orchestrated it along with the odd thee-ball. This is a VERY good, balanced team, with speed to burn and learning patience in the half court.
Mike, if they beat the Hawks, I believe the likelihood of any trades will be seriously reduced…. It won’t be easy but it is interesting to note that while the Hawks absolutely OWN the Celtics this year they are 0-3 against the Magic… should be interesting!
GREAT
win last night. I was very happy to see Butler play like that. It’s what made him, at one point, my favorite Wizard. He was nearly unstoppable down the stretch, because he played with aggression, and went to the basket hard. This may be the best game he has all season. Which means his trade value should be at it’s peak. I hope Ernie is burning up the lines today.
Magic Fan here.
Good Win last night guys.
I have Butler on fantasy and after the 1st half I was fuming.
Well because of the result I was still fuming at the end.
Boo Fantasy Basketball!
"Memphis then used a pick-and-roll to get Conley free and he drove past Shaquille O'Neal for the go-ahead layup."
Orlando Magic
It’s hard to tell at this point in the season who is going to be good, there is still so much basketball left to play. On paper the Carter-Lee/Turkoglu swap sounds okay, but Vince has a bit of that GIlbert syndrome: all scoring and not a bit of defense. Vince is a little older now and maybe a little wiser, but is ther any team you can point to and say that he has made the difference, that he had gotten them over the hump? He wasn’t even able to help the Nets.

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