Washington Wizards vs. Orlando Magic: Regular Season Game 48 Open Thread
by Mike Prada on Feb 5, 2010 5:39 PM EST
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PrintThe Essentials:
Wizards (16-32) vs. Magic (33-16)
7 p.m.
Amway Arena
TV: CSN+
Radio: 106.7 The Fan
Notable Magic numbers this season
3rd in expected winning percentage (.689)
15th in pace (92.8 possessions per game)
12th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (108.4 points/100 possessions)
5th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (102.7 points allowed/100 possessions)
Pre-game links
Orlando Pinstriped Post, SB Nation's Magic Blog
Orlando Magic Daily
Howard The Dunk
Magic BasketBlog
Wizards Insider: Otis Smith talks Gilbert Arenas
Comcast Sports Net: Mike Jones on Caron Butler's season-long issues
OPP's game preview
Brandon Bass frustrated by his PT
GameDay Orlando
| Tonight's Projected Starters | ||
|---|---|---|
| Wizards | vs. | Magic |
| Randy Foye | PG | Jameer Nelson |
| Mike Miller | SG | Vince Carter |
| Caron Butler | SF | Matt Barnes |
| Antawn Jamison | PF | Rashard Lewis |
| Brendan Haywood | C | Dwight Howard |
I'm having trouble mustering up the enthusiasm to write much for these threads anymore, and the snow is depressing me, so this will be quick.
I'll only encourage you read two things: Michael Lee's post on Otis Smith, in which Smith responds to rumors suggesting his relationship with Gilbert Arenas means he'll pursue Arenas after his suspension by saying he's "not necessarily sure," or something; and Mike Jones' report on Caron Butler. There's a particular line in Jones' report where he writes that the Wizards charted Butler in catch-and-shoot opportunities and found he was much better than Butler expected, yet Butler continues to play how he's played all year. Sorry to make everyone angry again.
The Wizards beat Orlando a few weeks ago, but that was a different Magic team. I think they've righted the ship by now, though obviously some chemistry questions linger. Clearly, Orlando hasn't come together as easily as many (including me) expected, but they're still second in the East, with the third-best expected winning percentage in the league. They've crushed Atlanta three times and taken two of three from Boston, so no East team wants to see them in the playoffs. Just imagine what could happen when they really find their stride.
GO WIZARDS!
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One of the most disappointing things this season has been the play of Butler
Seriously, how good is he really? Does anyone know for sure? The last few seasons, he’s been my favorite player on the team, but he just seems like a different guy this year. A solid and smart player realizes his strengths and weaknesses and does everything in his power to better utilize those strengths and at least try to minimize those weaknesses. Butler just seems to do the same thing game-in and game-out: do the same old ineffective moves out there and look for whatever shots he feels comfortable with. If Butler refuses to do something more (catch and shoot) that he’s efficient at, well, I don’t really know what to say.
ownership
What is the timetable for this being resolved? My God the pollin family bought the team for 1 million and this is paralyzing Grunfeld before the trade deadline. ANOTHER LOST SEASON!
PS – This is an absolutely killer blog – love it.
Mike Miller is getting picked off way too easily on those screen and rolls
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
looking sharp!
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Feb 5, 2010 7:14 PM EST reply actions
Once again, it speaks volumes that Butler's not guarding Vince
Defensive stopper!
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clear the bench.
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Feb 5, 2010 7:21 PM EST reply actions
This is unbelievable
What is that, nine turnovers in seven minutes?
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Mike Miller scored a basket
UNTOUCHABLE!
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More like varsity vs. freshman team
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Looked fine to me
He just missed it.
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Unless you're talking about his first shot
That was ugly.
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Mike Miller has nine of our 13
MVP! MVP! MVP!
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This unit is playing a lot faster now
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Mike, was that you who mentioned how bad Foye is at shooting around the paint?
He really is bad around the rim.
The starters are playing so terribly it's crazy
Foye’s drive to the hoop was so half-hearted, and Jamison’s again doing nothing.
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another 6 words to avoid -
“howard now defended by antawn jamison”
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Feb 5, 2010 7:58 PM EST reply actions
Hawks v Wiz tomorrow
i hope it gets snowed out… so that the team gets one day away from this misery…and im not talkin bout the weather. GO CAPS — 11 in a row….
Antawn really should have had that loose ball there
But instead, he was slow/lazy/whatever and didn’t get it.
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Mike- start the GAME WRAP UP thread now..
… so that we can cut and paste all of our past comments on how the Wizards lost this game against the Magic.
ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!
-Kevin Garnett
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The CAPs
flip the channel to CSN-HD and watch the caps in the VZ center….packed…full of fans…all decked out in red…yelling and screaming for a WINNING WASINGTON TEAM…. hard to believe its the same losing stadium were we watch the Wiz. I am so pissed off that I bought 3 Wizards season ticket seats. UGH.
There's a Caps blog for that
Japers Rink. Please keep your Caps talk over there.
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okay-- i don't even like hockey that much...but I'll go over to Japers Rink to check it out> Bye.
by CVC on Feb 5, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying leave for good
I’m just saying that threadjacking is annoying.
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not as annoying as watching the wizards lose again.
I’ll come back tomorrow night and commesurate with you guys as we watch the Hawks blow the Wizards out.
by CVC on Feb 5, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
yes, a MAD AS HELL wizards fan who has blown several thousand dollars..
…on season tickets the past two seasons watching this sorry product on the floor. I want them to Bring back Arenas next year. Now im gone for good. bye
by CVC on Feb 5, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
You can do what you want
But it is annoying to tell people to stop watching the Wizards on a Wizards blog.
And that’s that. I’m done with this.
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On second thought, I guess you didn't do that
Sorry about that.
Still, we do try to keep Caps/Skins/Terps talk to a minimum even in game threads.
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Actually, that's exactly what he did...
… but I think without ill intent. We can still be friends.
JJ Redick beat him on a couple cuts
BENCHED!
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Where's Butler?
I missed the start of the second half. Why is Stevenson in for Butler?
never mind. there he is.
The graphic said Deshawn was in. Guess it was wrong.
Buck said that's a tough fadeaway
But Jamison surrendered the position and Lewis was able to make it so Jamison couldn’t contest it.
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Orlando kind of sat on it
It puts your big in a bad spot, but he wasn’t going to make the shot.
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It's smart to do that with Howard in the middle protecting the rim
Unlike the last play, where someone fouled Foye from behind
What the hell was that shot by Carter?
He could have lobbed that to Howard and gotten a dunk.
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True Hoop wrote about that the other day
He just doesn’t pass the ball that much — even on easy plays.
Why should the Magic need us to roll over?
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We don't roll over
…………………………………….. until 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
trust me
i’m more shocked than you are frustrated
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Feb 5, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Awful shot by Foye
He missed Jamison cutting.
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I don't think he got any of it
Looked like Lewis just missed it.
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vince carter has not looked good
in any magic game i’ve seen this year
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Feb 5, 2010 8:41 PM EST reply actions
Caron's playing really well tonight
No forced shots, aggressive drives, under control, fitting in rather than forcing things.
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I live in NC, I watch games on League Pass, so this game is on the Magic feed
when Flip got the technical foul in the first half, and Nelson missed the free throw, Flip yelled out “Ball Dont Lie” multiple times. No one here mentioned it so I assume Comcast did not pick it up.
If RAW charged royalties for every time someone used his expression, Flip would be bankrupt.
by John Park Williams on Feb 5, 2010 8:49 PM EST reply actions
So
Stevenson with a stupid foul by tapping Reddick on his forehead….
then Stevenson throws the ball out of bounds….
But – he’s a veteran – so I guess he can make 2 consecutive mistakes without being benched for a week…….
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
heavy minutes for the starters
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Feb 5, 2010 8:52 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, Foye/Butler/Jamison haven't sat at all
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i mean the bench was brutal so i understand
but it does not bode well for 4th quarter, much less tomorrow v. ATL (if it happens)
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Feb 5, 2010 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
The bench was ok
They were playing against the Magic bench too, but they didn’t really cut into the lead either — maybe 2 points or so.
So ... uhh .. what were the chances of that quarter just happening?
1 in a million? Higher?
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Well - you won't see a much better quarter from the Wizards this year....
that was terrific
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It was also completely a two-man show
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Prediction
Having fallen in love with jumpshots during the comeback, the Wizards will now proceed to shoot themselves out of the game.
DeShawn just got beat on the same cut Nick got beat on earlier in the game
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keep him in the game....
Maybe he’ll eventually learn… and become a cornerstone of a future Wizards team
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
Everyone's getting killed on that JJ Redick curl
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JJ's also a player
I hate to admit it, but he’d be a great glue guy starter on another team.
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Jamison didn't get back at all there
Very lucky Anderson missed that.
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Great move by Dray
He’s improved his post game. It’s a gradual improvement, but an improvement nonetheless. I can tell you he works hard on it before games.
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They have to call that moving pick on Dwight Howard too....
he’s been moving all night…
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magic announcers just called boykins and foye
our ‘so-called’ point guards, due to their over-dribbling. good to know they’ve watched some wiz games in preparation
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Feb 5, 2010 9:09 PM EST reply actions
They're really good
(The Magic announcers, that is. Pretty sure Goukas is an avid blog reader; he reads OPP all the time).
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yeah they are good.
i haven’t been annoyed once all game by them
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Feb 5, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
We need to play Dwight Howard straight up now
Let him go at it vs. a good defender in Haywood. Dwight is too good at passing out of the double teams, and Orlando is too good at knocking down the 3.
They do need to mix it up a little bit
Howard has been a little frustrated in the second half. It’s not smart to leave Carter wide open, though.
matt guokas on the Magic feed is great
Right after Boykins’ turnover leading to the foul on Pietrus:
“But this happens to the Washington so called point guards a lot. Just aimlessly dribbling around, just dribble around, use up clock, not go anywhere, and turn it over.”
by John Park Williams on Feb 5, 2010 9:11 PM EST reply actions
Butler auditioning for the Mavericks
or the Rockets
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Wow, didn't realize it was that many
Think a lot of his pts are in transition.
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Dwight's gotten a lot of his points off of hustle tonight
when he’s actually tried to back someone down and score he’s done it like twice. You guys have played him very well.
Hello.
Nice patience, Caron!
This is a throwback performance by him.
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yep
maybe he just needed a couple days of rest……maybe
by SkinsWizStangs on Feb 5, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Two bad possessions by Caron
Two forced shots.
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I thought he was going to work the ball around after he pump faked
Then he just shot the ball anyway.
Me too
I was like “Good patience, okay, good, NOO”
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they're whupped. tired play
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Feb 5, 2010 9:19 PM EST reply actions
Wish Miller got a touch one of these days
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Lewis needs more touches for them
He’s good.
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Stan Van Gundy really should put Barnes back in
Watching VC try to guard Caron is comical.
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What the hell was that shot by VC?
Wow, I was wrong about him.
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Nice D by Washington there...
Jamison closed out…. Haywood contested the shot
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Patrick Ewing must be the worst position coach
because Dwight Howard’s post game has made no progress in 6 seasons.
by John Park Williams on Feb 5, 2010 9:32 PM EST reply actions
he just has very little touch around the basket
not sure how much that can be coached
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Feb 5, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Ewing didn't really have any post moves either
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CCCCCCCRRRRRAAAAAPPPPP
Come on Antawn, give them the 2. Don’t help.
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Wait nevermind
Forgot they were down 2.
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Wait a minute, are they redoing the play? What?
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He missed the shot anyway
So what’s the big deal?
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weird weird game
yay! season is lost but a win now and then is needed
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Feb 5, 2010 9:41 PM EST reply actions
Wildest game of the season
Even before the 3 minute discussion, before the 0.5 second shot, before Caron’s dagger, this was a wild one. There have been a few games called “the best win of the season” (I still go with the opener at Dallas), but this was certainly the most unlikely.
It looks like, if there’s a game tomorrow, me and 75 other people will be there. Now I’m looking forward to it.
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