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Ernie Grunfeld on the Gilbert Arenas trade: It's in best interest of team "in short term and long term"

Ernie Grunfeld just spoke to the media for a few minutes prior to tonight's game about the Gilbert Arenas trade.  Here's a summary of his remarks.  He really talked up Rashard Lewis a lot and made it sound like, to me, that he felt Lewis was a better fit for this mix than Arenas.  That's kind of a striking statement on Arenas, if you ask me, since I'm not sure about Lewis' veteran leadership.  

Anyway, his comments are below the jump.

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Opening statement: 

We think Rashard is going to really be able to help our frontcourt with his experience, his versatility, his ability to stretch the defense. He's a 39 percent career three-point shooter, and when you have a point guard like John who likes to penetrate and is a distributor, you need people who can stretch the D.  He can play on the outside, but he can post up when he has smaller players on him.  He was a two-time all-star, comes from a great winning environment, and we're really pleased to have him on our ballclub.  This fits into our rebuilding and we're rebuilding around our young players and through the draft, but to be able to do that, you also need some veteran leadership and I think Rashard is one of those players who can lead by example along with Kirk and Josh Howard of course.

EG on how this came together

"The opportunity presents itself this week, and opportunities don't come along that much in the NBA.  We looked at it, we studied it, and felt like it was the right time to make this move in the best interests of our club in the short term and the long term."

"There wasn't a particular moment.  The opportunity presented itself in the middle of last week.  Obviously Orlando is doing some things with that ballclub, changing things around.  The whole thing took 3-4 days from the time we first spoke to the time we completed it."

EG on who might benefit from Arenas going to Orlando.

"It also gives some of our young players an opportunity to play.  Nick Young is going to get extended minutes now, he's had an opportunity to play, he's played real well, he's shown that he can take advantage of time he's gotten and now he's going to get even more of an opportunity to show what he can do."

EG on why Lewis as opposed to maybe Vince Carter or Jason Richardson, who had shorter contracts

"We had discussions about a lot of different people, but everything had to fit for them to make these moves" 

EG on selling this to Ted, while emphasizing that the core foundation will remain young players

You can't have every single player on your team be young.  You need to have some veterans, and I think we have a few veterans that have experience and can provide leadership. I think Ted was on board with this, because it goes right in line with what he's doing for the long term.

EG on whether Gilbert wasn't that kind of veteran

We could have moved forward with him and we had been moving forward with him, but when this opportunity presented itself, we just felt like this was a better opportunity for us to move forward and try to accomplish the things we're trying to accomplish in the long term.

EG on whether he regretted giving Gilbert that $111 million deal in 2008

If you knew somebody was going to get hurt, then of course you wouldn't do that.  But at the time we signed Gilbert, he was one of the top 10 players in the game.  He was averaging 28, 29 a game and there were other teams that wanted to pay him that year.  That year he was a free agent, Golden State lost Baron Davis and they had a lot of cap room, and they were more than willing to sign him.  Looking back on it, we thought it was in the best interest in the organization.  You can never forsee injuries.

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Did Ernie just sell Lewis

on his 3 pt percentage? He just traded for another Antawn Jamison with a bigger contract.

Only half kidding.

Wall. Ovechkin.

by bronco6778 on Dec 18, 2010 6:20 PM EST reply actions  

Lewis is a better defender than Antawn

Damning with faint praise, but take what you can get…

by yop32 on Dec 18, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Inferior rebounder, though

I think the two of them are about even talent and fit wise.

by pantslessyoda1 on Dec 18, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually...

By trading Gilbert, the Wizards saved close to 30 million dollars.

by 6ft1height on Dec 18, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Its not the fans money

The artist formerly known as ledellforlife.

by Sean Fagan on Dec 18, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

more important

by trading Gil, they move the rebuild timeline ahead by 2 yrs

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

by GeoFly on Dec 19, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I think its BS

Good fit
3 point shooting
veteren leadership
Yaddah yaddah yaddah
Grunfeld and Saunders simply didn’t want him on the team anymore and the best they could get for him was Lewis. End of story

by hystericalmaniac on Dec 18, 2010 6:34 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Examining all the other trade options

This trade was the worse possible trade that could have been made. However, it’s somewhat likely it was the only possible trade that could have been made. The question is: how was it better than doing nothing?

The only possible answer to that is that Leonsis got sold on the idea that it puts him in a position to lock Wall up with a longterm contract one year earlier than if the trade hadn’t happened.

In light of this exchange of the worst contract in the NBA for the…other worst contract in the NBA, it’s hard to believe Leonsis will continue to be stupid enough to let grunfeld be the one to handle that extension. But the myth of Leonsis’ acumen is the real casualty of this trade.

by Iwitness on Dec 18, 2010 6:44 PM EST reply actions  

There are no other trade options

Either you hold on to Gilbert and try some more Gilbert/Wall experiment or you hold onto him and see if his value increases a smidge. But I don’t think there are too many situations that are going to arise this season to move Gilbert. Knicks might have been a possibility if Raymond Felton hadn’t gone nuts in the new system.

Where else is a potential fit for Gilbert this year?

The wait for 10/7 begins. This man is focused. Are you?

by souldrummer on Dec 18, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the trade's good

It’d have been nice to get VC or Orton or a pick, but that’s probably wishful thinking. I mean, look what we were able to get for Caron and Jamison – cap relief and replacement-level players.

My only concern is how much Lewis will play. There’s really no reason for us to play a guy in his 30s for more than 15 or 20 minutes a game, especially when we’ve got three young players (I’m not including Yi since I don’t think we re-sign him) who play the same position as Lewis. I suppose we can play him at the 3, but I don’t think he can guard anyone there, especially not at his age.

by pantslessyoda1 on Dec 18, 2010 6:49 PM EST reply actions  

Wha?
We could have moved forward with him and we had been moving forward with him, but when this opportunity presented itself, we just felt like this was a better opportunity for us to move forward and try to accomplish the things we’re trying to accomplish in the long term.

That could literally be the answer to 90% of all sports questions.

by Pryme on Dec 18, 2010 7:56 PM EST reply actions  

Nobody

can top GMs for statements utterly bereft of meaning.

by Elvin Unseld on Dec 18, 2010 8:37 PM EST reply actions  

When does Leonsis start getting blame?

That dudes all hype. All he’s done basketball wise is pocket 6M(Abe Pollin Special). Everything else he’s done is just BS marketing.

by BayAreaBullet on Dec 18, 2010 8:51 PM EST reply actions  

Look at the Caps

That’s incredibly ignorant. Ernie will get a chance to succeed or fail. Teams weren’t knocking down the door to get Gilbert; I’m amazed they moved him at all.

Wall. Ovechkin.

by bronco6778 on Dec 18, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

'scuse me

You said “basketball wise.” I take back the ignorant remark, and apologize. But Leonsis has to be given time to turn it around.

Wall. Ovechkin.

by bronco6778 on Dec 18, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah but everyone has handed him the "Great Owner" tag

But what has he done to deserve it. Right now from a basketball sense it is tough to tell the difference from Pollin. I don’t give a shit about what he did with the Caps, thats a different sport.

by BayAreaBullet on Dec 18, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's a Win Win move

Gil has no motivation or chance to win here but will in Orlando. Lewis won’t hurt us coming off the bench and he’s gone end of next season if not before which opens up mo-better options for FA’s and trades. Nick Young will play more and deliver. What’s not to like?

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

by GeoFly on Dec 19, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

He's owned the team for a few months!

And inherited a toxic contract and a dead fanbase. What do you expect? I feel like we’re in better hands with him than Snyder or Lerner, especially since he doesn’t have to learn to be an owner like he did some years ago.

I’m not certain the plan will work, but I’m on board with what the plan is.

Wall. Ovechkin.

by bronco6778 on Dec 19, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

After thinking about it, the trade actually makes sense to me

Arenas was supposed to be gone over the summer so this was just a waiting period the team had to go through, it was just such a nostalgic feel seeing Gilbert out there that its hard to watch him go.

That said, he was hardly helping the squad. He got his numbers but didnt make huge impacts on games like we’re used to seeing from him.

Wiz get Rashard Lewis who is a very underrated post player and a dead eye 3 point shooter when he’s right, 2 things the team is desperately missing. Another veteran presence also can’t hurt to help guide the younger sqaud and lastly what I (and I’m sure almost 90% of BF has been clamoring for) more tick for Nick Young.

by qthaballa on Dec 18, 2010 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

if i'm ted

and this trade saves me $30 million, that sounds pretty good.

both these guys look pretty washed up to me. gil was never gonna drop 30 a night again for us, i seriously doubt he will elsewhere, and he’s proven to be a mediocre point guard when he’s not doing that.

easier to bring rashard off the bench for two years than try to figure out what the heck to do with gil for 3.

whatever.

god bless you though gil, you were great for this franchise, but time to part ways.

by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 19, 2010 1:30 AM EST reply actions  

gil was never gonna drop 30 a night again for us

Except, he did it TWICE this year already.

He's "delightfully cranky"

by Rook6980 on Dec 19, 2010 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

he also scored less than 10 points 4 times (which is cherry picking as much as focusing on the two 30 point games), is shooting under 40%, doesn’t get to the line the way he used to, and turns the ball over like it’s going out of style. i wish him the best, but he’s not the player he used to be.

by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 19, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

i love this line…“We had discussions about a lot of different people, but everything had to fit for them to make these moves”

what happened to everything had to fit for us to make this move lol

all this talk about saving money is bunk… the team plans to spend something near the salary cap every year. the “savings” is targeted to be spent so it is not a “savings” at all.

what it does mean is money planned to be spent can be spent on another player or a couple players three seasons from now. so we gave up the better player for nothing to have the flexibility to field possibly a better team in three seasons for exactly one season…and three seasons from now, this team will not be competing for a championship.

the trade stinks from a fans perspective but is good for ernie as he removes one potential voice against him within the organization.

by les boulez bomber on Dec 19, 2010 9:58 AM EST reply actions  

My question

Assuming EG (or someone else in the Wizards FO) was the one who put out the “EG wants to make sure he gets something back other than just Lewis” message, do we classify his failure to do so as a.) a failure on EG’s part, b.) another pile of EG BS, or c.) both?

Ridiculous Upside, where developing talent and winning are not mutually exclusive.

by Jon L on Dec 19, 2010 10:10 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Even if you think getting more than Lewis was unrealistic

(as I do), what ultimate purpose was there for saying that? He just ends up looking ineffective.

Ridiculous Upside, where developing talent and winning are not mutually exclusive.

by Jon L on Dec 19, 2010 10:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Good point

I think it was bluf, he got raised by otis and than quickly folded.

"If you don't shoot, you can't score"
Johan Cruijff

by Dutch Hoopfan on Dec 19, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I think this trade ends up helping both teams

But it will probably end up helping Orlando a lot more than it helps us.

by yop32 on Dec 19, 2010 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

helps Orlando in the short run and it helps us in the long run.

bottom line I think why the trade was done

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

by GeoFly on Dec 19, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

bonus

it may help us in the short run too with Young getting more play

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

by GeoFly on Dec 19, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Also removes any reason to play Yi at PF

Play Yi exclusively at center, give him the K.I.S.S. treatment, and I think he can blossom just like Nick has.

by yop32 on Dec 19, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

good point

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

by GeoFly on Dec 19, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

What is Leiws' contract

Is he absolutely tied up through 2012-2013 and if so, for how much?

by tgmcgill on Dec 19, 2010 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

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