Wizards Fade In Fourth - Fall To Cavaliers 107-102
These are the losses that hurt.
Kirk Hinrich and Al Thornton did everything they could to keep the Wizards in this game and give the Wizards a chance to win, but the team eventually succumbed to their own miscues to lose the Cavaliers 107-102. The Wizards defense was also once again suspect, allowing 40 points in the paint and the Cavaliers to shoot 47.6% from the field. However, what really did the team in was a failure to execute basic plays down the stretch. JaVale McGee, who had played a solid game on the defensive end, was pulled with 4:06 left in the fourth quarter after failing to box out Anderson Varejao, leading to a Anthony Parker three and and a four point swing. After that, Mo Williams and Boobie Gibson both daggered the Wizards with threes. all but ending the game.
Flip on JaVale:
Well, he was having trouble helping us on pick and roll defense and missed a rebound on a free throw situation where they got three, missed a couple free throws on the next possession. It was decision that Hilton is one of our better bigs at defending pick and rolls which were killing us.
This is a situation that both Wizards fans and the organization will be tracking all year. Is it possible to live with a frontline that features both Blatche and McGee, players who are gifted offensively but take away enough on the defensive end to make their contributions moot. Are the two players too similar in temperament and style to be effective over the long run for the Wizards?
After the game, the first and most pressing question is why Al Thornton was left on the bench after playing out of his mind for almost the entire game. Well, it turns out that Flip regrets that decision as much as the rest of us.
I said to Al I made a mistake....We got into a little rhythm with Gil making shots, Kirk is our best pick and roll defender, and John has to play...In hindsight, you wish you would've gotten him back in the game....You just wish you could get him back in the game."
Gilbert Arenas also agrees with Flip, stating that he should have sat for Thornton in the fourth. Which leads to the question, if JaVale McGee made such a damning mistake that you sub for him with 4:06 left, but you remain committed to your three guard lineup, why not move Blatche to the five and bring Thornton in to play the four? Why play Armstrong in crunch time who was -20 on the night and was being eaten up by Hickson inside?
The lingering question that hangs in this air for me after this game is whether the Wizards staff is too committed to it's scheme at the expense of letting it's players make plays. Obviously, on the defensive end the scheme was not working as the Wizards could not stop the Cavs inside while also being punished for the second straight game from behind the arc. Offensively, while the three guard lineup was extremely effective against the smaller Cavs lineup, it immediately lost ground when the Cavs reinserted Hickson, Varejao, and Williams back into the game. Hinrich had also cooled off from his blistering first half pace, going only 1-6 from the field and 1-5 from three in the second half , so I don't buy the argument that he was playing at a level the prevented Thornton from returning to the game.
At the end of the day, there will be a lot of games like this for the Wizards this year. Execution will be lacking and we will want to tear our hair out. For now, I will attempt to enjoy the increased rebounding effort from McGee and Blatche and the fact that Arenas is back in the fold. Facing a desperate Rockets team on Wednesday, the Wizards are going to have their work cut out for them.
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you’re right. fixed. In my defense, an ESPN writer used the term “roll model” today. So I don’t feel too terrible.
The artist formerly known as ledellforlife.
by Sean Fagan on Nov 7, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wiz can’t get any lower. the only place to go is up.
by Jeffrey Thompson on Nov 7, 2010 4:18 PM EST reply actions
I have become resigned
to the fact that Flip Saunders is much like his predecessor Eddie Jordan, in that he sees a difference in the mistakes of young players and older vets. He has always been way too quick to pull McGee out of the game for a mistake, but he doesn’t do the same with vets.
The funny part is that he can not do this with Wall. (not that I would want him to) Flip knows that his future is directly tied to Wall, so he won’t do anything that would risk pissing the guy off. That’s why I found this comment funny
, and John has to play..
I truly wonder what Flip would do after one of those awful turnovers Wall had, if JW wasn’t the #1 pick in the draft.
But who is Hilton Armstrong that his mistakes don't get him benched??
That’s what I dont get, Mcgee is constantly blamed and benched, but the guys who replace him (Yi and HA) are worse every time. Not sure what Saunders is trying to accomplish with that.
by DCrez on Nov 7, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Couldn't agree more.
JaVale has some negative plays, but his positives almost always outweigh his negatives. So apparently Armstrong shows better on pick and rolls — he doesn’t score, rebound, run the floor, or intimidate on defense the way McGee does. And for this, he gets benched in crunch time? It’s ridiculous.
Maybe
Flip knows McGee is in the long term plans for the team and wants to discipline him so he will learn to not make those mistakes. Armstrong is not going to be with the team for all that long so Flip doesn’t really care if he learns from his mistakes. Probably not the best way to go about it, but that might be what’s happening.
I think this is just apart of the growing pains we're going to witness this season
with this only being the 2nd game Gil and John had the chance to play together…he wants to get that to work eventually…the growing pains will be early….Javale does need to realize if he makes that mistake it can cost us games…and it did tonite…tough love I guess..hopefully he will learn because he is still in the learning stages of his development
I’d like to see JaVale coming off the bench. That way, the two of Blatche and JaVale wouldn’t have to play together, at least at this point in their careers. Flip could accomplish this by starting Blatche at center, even though I don’t think that’s his best long-term role. But that would still mean we’d need a strong player at the four position…maybe try Booker there, and we really focus on running. In the alternative, we could try trading for a player; it’s just that I’d hate to trade either Blatche or JaVale, since they are both good long-term investments.
Substitution at end
I see that Flip points to an error by McGee to bench him in favor of Armstrong. However, Armstrong had played a horrible game defensively.
Moreover, over the first five games, the defensive rating of McGee and Armstrong is indistinguishable. See basketball-reference.com.
McGee is inconsistent, but he’s much better than Armstrong and he’s getting better.
Where’s Ruffin when we need him?
Armstrong's mind numbing foul
on Mo Williams with 2 minutes left in a tie game 30 freakin’ feet from the hoop should have gotten him benched for the game. That just can’t happen.
Wizards staff is too committed to its scheme at the expense of letting it's players make plays.
This exactly. And its what will end up costing them in the long run. Players get discouraged when things like this happens (Thornton subbing) and they also sometimes begin to question the coaching staff, which is one of the worst things that can happen.
I understand Kirk was having a great game and Gil had to play, I also understand that there is an entire account dedicated to this but:
Why isn’t Nick young playing more?
If Gil himself was considering subbing himself out for Al...
Why didn’t he make this clear to his coach?
Thornton simply should not have been on the bench in Q4 of this game.
Over the longer haul, I do think Wall and Gil are going to be a very productive backcourt.
And credit to Flip at least for apologizing to Thornton, who is right this minute one of the most productive players on the team.
last year i was disappointed in the scheme
because it didn’t suit the players we had, but this year i think it suits these guys fine. the problem is, i don’t think these guys are capable of properly executing ANY scheme right now. hopefully that will come in time.
by DarrellWalkerFan on Nov 8, 2010 11:47 AM EST reply actions

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