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20 Days, 20 Questions: Who Starts At Small Forward?

Are you for real or just a gimmick?

Perhaps the most important questions that the Wizards need to resolve this preseason is not whether John Wall and Gilbert Arenas can coexist, the state of Arenas' psyche, or JaVale McGee's NBA2K 11 ranking, but one that is simple meat and potatoes basketball, who gets the start at small forward for the Wizards?

I attempted to first answer this piece for SBN D.C. pointing to the fact that Josh Howard is the prohibitive favorite to start at the position when he return from injury, but Al Thornton could make a case for a starting role with rookie Trevor Booker, and veterans Nick Young and Kirk Hinrich as dark horses in the competition:

Booker showed flashes of his defensive ability and toughness in summer league, and will it be interesting to see whether coach Flip Saunders prefers the defensive mentality of Booker. Young and Hinrich are long shots to start at the position, as they would be moving away from their natural guard roles, but Young at least had the height and athleticism to be considered for spot starts at the position.

And then Flip Saunders has to go and prove that I'm not a great prognosticator.

Instead of being a dark horse, Hinrich has been inserted into the starting small forward role to begin preseason play. By going with his "three little guys lineup" Saunders is adding more basketball IQ  and outside shooting to the starting lineup with the insertion of Hinrich. Hinrich brings better ball movement, greater passing and a headier defensive presence to the role of small forward. Arguably, by starting the trio of guards, Saunders is sticking to the mantra of "you play your best" players, regardless of the situation.

Unfortunately, the problem with starting Hinrich is three-fold.

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The first issue with the lineup is that it is a gimmick. Starting three guards might confuse opposing teams for a bit, but eventually they are going to adjust and begin to take advantage of Hinrich's lack of athleticism and height at the position. Now, there could be hope that the league will remain fooled until Howard returns from injury as his recovery is proceeding ahead of schedule. If this is the case, then it's a risky gambit, but one that may ultimately pay dividends as John Wall gets to spend time on the floor with the best possible combination of players, rather than those that are simply slotted into assumed roles.

Another problem with starting Hinrich at small forward is that the burden of defensive stopper falls heavily on the shoulders of JaVale McGee and to a lesser extent Andray Blatche. McGee will have to take a huge step forward defensively and improve his defensive switching in order to prevent Hinrich from being exploited in the post. Blatche will have to labor more at the defensive end of the court, which is not the ideal situation for your secondary scoring option.

Perhaps this is a brilliant stratagem on Saunders' part, basically telling McGee that the defense is "on you" and expecting McGee to harness his remarkable athletic ability to play in a controlled manner. If so, kudos for the motivational method, but it has the strong change to spectacularly backfire. Last night, against a Cleveland Cavaliers team that didn't start it's two best players, the Wizards were thoroughly out rebounded and broke down several times defensively when employing the "three little guys" lineup. Rebounding is already a noted concern for this team, and the implementation of this particular lineup would seem to exacerbate this particular weakness.

Finally, there is the issue of Al Thornton. Thornton showed up for camp 25 pounds lighter and motivated to make his case for the starting role. As noted by Steve Perrin of Clip's Nation when Thornton was acquired, he is a player that performs better when he knows what his minutes are going to be and prefers a starting role:

When the Clippers added Rasual Butler this summer, Al found himself fighting for his starting job and it clearly affected him.  He started the season in a miserable slump - bounced back when he made it back into the starting lineup alongside Butler while Eric Gordon was hurt - continued to play well for awhile after running to the sixth man role - and then went back into the slump the last month.  Whether he tailed off because he was losing minutes or he lost minutes because he tailed off is a tough one to answer.  But clearly in was in a negative feedback loop.

Now Thornton finds himself behind a combo guard and a guy coming off serious injury in the race for the starting position. All this after he put in the effort to come to camp hungry and motivated.

The future answer to who starts at small forward is probably "none of the above." Young, Thornton, and Howard all have uncertain futures on the team, Booker needs to demonstrate the quickness to defend small forwards, and it would probably be preferred if Hinrich returned to his usual role at the guard position. The Wizards were reportedly in the hunt this summer for Josh Childress and it is likely that their future plans lie elsewhere at the position. The coming off season brings a paucity of small forwards on the open market, with the noted exception of Carmelo Anthony whom the Wizards can't afford, and Caron Butler who is unlikely to return to the DMV.

As for this season, I think the most likely scenario is that you are going to see a starting roulette scenario, much like we did with the shooting guard position over the past couple of years. Look for Hinrich to start against smaller teams like New York and Golden State with Thornton inserted into the lineup against the beefier Boston and Orlando's of the NBA. When Josh Howard comes back the situation will hopefully solidify, but my expectations are that you will see a variety of different names in the game threads this season

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Unless Nick Young transforms into a Jamal Crawford

Trade him for a ham sandwich.

The dude plays like his angry drunk stepdad is in the stands watching.

by jdgreger on Oct 8, 2010 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

That's it!

I knew it was something, I just couldn’t put my finger on it. thanks for that.

by qthaballa on Oct 8, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do not think Flip is going to start Kirk at the 3

I do think that the crunch-time, preferred line-up will feature the 3 guards, because Flip clearly loves it. I think he’s just testing it out now.
Still feel that Thornton is the guy to start the regular season.

"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier

by little stevie colter on Oct 8, 2010 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Why would Flip start KH the first 2 games if he wasn't considering starting him during the season?

Maybe he’s trying to motivate Thornton, who already seems motivated. I don’t think anyone else on the healthy roster is capable of filling the role. Yi is a worse matchup problem then KH. Booker isn’t ready. NY is MIA. Martin?

I’ll feel better once Howard is healthy.

by MR on Oct 8, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

my thinking is because he just wants to see how it works -

it’s preseason. i think he knows what thornton is, more or less. i’m guessing we’ll see Al start in the last preseason game or 2. i base this on absolutely nothing other than ‘he can’t really start kirk at the 3, can he???’

"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier

by little stevie colter on Oct 8, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're prolly right

There may be a little “if you play as good as KH has been we will find minutes for you” going on for motivation.

by MR on Oct 8, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thornton had a nice game last nght...

Keeps doing that, he ought to get the nod.

I suspect the three guard line-up will be on the floor quite a bit, though.

Nick Young is flat playing himself out of town.

Booker is an energy guy (and seems well suited to the role off last night’s debut ).

In the medium term, the job is almost certainly Howard’s once he gets back and gets the rust off.

The player the Wizards should go after to answer the SF question (as he has been mentioned in a couple of places as potentially the odd man out with his current team) may be Jeff Green. This becomes a posibility if Ibaka takes the next step, as he is a much more classic 4 than Green, and the starting 3 job in OKC is, uh, taken by another player.

It would have been nice to land Childress!!

by khrabb on Oct 8, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey Mike!

How about a picture of the guy in a friggin Wizards uni for crying out loud.

by MR on Oct 8, 2010 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Jeez dude

Let’s apportion blame where it is needed.

I didn’t have a good Al picture on hand.

The artist formerly known as ledellforlife.

by Sean Fagan on Oct 8, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL. Maybe you could have used the mole rat that Doc submitted in the comments earlier in the week. That mole rat needs to be used much more often.

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by CJ Hempfield on Oct 8, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never liked the acquisition of Kirk

And Flip playing him at small forward makes me hate it even more. Flip said the objective of this season is to develop our young players. I think that’s better accomplished by having them play not by having them sit behind a guard playing out of position. What’s the goal of this season, to win 35 games this season or to develop our talent so we can win 50 games per season for the next 10 years. I don’t get it.

by Kryp on Oct 8, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I will not attempt to climb into Flip’s mind, but… Maybe he is trying to see how successful that lineup is in the pre-season so that when he goes to it in the regular season they will be used to playing together? Maybe Thornton didn’t show him enough to start over Hinrich? (Flip has said that Wall and Hinrich have been the two best players during camp and Gil is still a better talent than Thornton… so maybe he just decided to play the best players???) Maybe he feels that given Thornton’s time on the team last season and the relative “newness” of Wall, Arenas and Hinrich, they need more time? I have many questions, and few answers.

I am purely guessing, but I imagine that he will likely start some conventional lineups before the end of the pre-season.

I disagree with you on one point, Kryp. I like the type of defense that Hinrich plays and I am glad that he is on this team. Seeing him strip Caron on multiple occasions was a beautiful sight for these eyes.

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by CJ Hempfield on Oct 8, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear ya

I hope you’re right about Flip coming around to play a more conventional lineup. Hiinirich does bring some good things to the Wizards and I’ve been thinking that the Wizards need to bring in someone who plays better defense instead of thinking that our current/past players were going to somehow turn into great defensive players. I still don’t like Kirk, but it will make me happy to see someone in a Wiz uniform playing some defense.

by Kryp on Oct 8, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

jdgrager; Nick Young play like a person , who do not want to be on this team, you know when you hate your job and don’t want to go to work. Well that’s where nick young are right now, you can see it on his face that young hate every thing about the wizards.

straight talk

by Mae.jude@yahoo.com on Oct 8, 2010 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

He has a right to feel this way

I’m a firm believer that Nick has not got a fair shot to play. When he has got extended minutes he’s played well. I didn’t see the game on Tuesday, but everyone has bad games. The key is to let players play through them until they get better. John Wall had a bad first half yesterday, but got a chance to play through. Nick has never got that chance. Also, I’m sure he’s upset because over the last 3 years he’s watched players who he’s outplayed still get minutes (i.e. D. Stevenson). Let him play and he’ll do well.

by Kryp on Oct 8, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

The guy has played 4416 minutes. That’s 19 minutes a game for 3 years. He’s had some chances. I think it’s hard to blame anyone else because the guy hasn’t made the most of his opportunities.

I think he’s a decent player and improving, but I think his problem is he lacks the mental toughness and focus required to pull himself through those tough times.

by MR on Oct 8, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

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