John Wall is the face of the Wizards no matter what
It's the day of the Wizards first game this season, so it's as good a time as ever for some people to revisit the question of whether this can really be "John Wall's team" with the horrible, awful Black Plague known as Gilbert Arenas still on the roster. (Don't take the last part of that last sentence literally). Because anytime you can beat a dead horse into the ground, revive it, have it die again and then commence beating, you do it.
Today in the Washington Examiner, Rick Snider says this is never going to be Wall's "team" as long as Agent Wackypants is around.
The Wizards can pretend Wall is their centerpiece and hang all the banners they want from Chinatown to Chantilly, but Arenas is that person who's the center of any party.
This will be Arenas' team until he finally does something that forces owner Ted Leonsis to eat the contract and send the guard away. Whether that's this season or next, the day is coming.
And in today's Washington Post, Michael Lee explores the issue some more. Somehow, it's a burning question whose "team" it is.
Look, the answer is simple: it's John Wall's team. He is the point guard. He is the number one draft pick. He is the cornerstone of a very transparent rebuilding effort. He is already a leader. He is the guy who is responsible for getting everyone else the ball. He is amazing enough as a person to accept all of that and handle it well no matter what. I'm amazed that this is even a question.
Will Arenas hog a lot of media attention? Of course, whether he wants to or not. Will he be the leading scorer if he plays? Yeah, probably. Will he accept a "sidekick" role for the long haul? Maybe, maybe not. But regardless, it doesn't matter. The Wizards will go as John Wall goes, not as Gilbert Arenas goes. That's what happens when you're the number one pick on a young team.
Bottom line: one does not determine the leader of a team by salary, experience, media attention or anything like that. It's determined by attitude, usage, confidence, trust and leadership. Last I checked, Wall's defining characteristic was his leadership ability. Last I checked, he was playing the most minutes and having the ball in his hands all the time in the preseason. Last I checked, his head coach couldn't stop gushing over him. That makes this his team, with Arenas occupying some role between an entertaining sideshow and a non-entity.
Arenas may distract the media, but he's not the guy in charge anymore. This team will have many problems, but sorting out who it belongs to is not one of them.
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Peanut butter jelly…peanut butter jelly…peanut butter jelly with a baseball bat!!
by TheRealBigMike on Oct 28, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I really wish we could end this talk about who's team it is
This is the only downside about getting the number 1 pick (please don’t get me wrong I will take the number 1 pick 10 out of 10 sundays), it created all this talk about who’s team this is. Who cares? It’s something that’s brought up to cause division and maybe create another Gil is a bad guy story. If John Wall continues to display the leadership qualities he’s already shown then great he’s one of the leaders on the team or the leader of the team.
The Wizards did a disservice to John by declaring it was his team early on. Let them be the Wizards and if Nick Young or McGee or Blatche start displaying those same leadership qualities is Michael Lee going to declare it’s there team and not John Wall’s team? Basically it’s a stupid topic and Michael Lee should write something better. As far as the Examiners goes they wrote a made-up story about Gil on Tuesday so I don’t expect much from them.
Agreed....I get sick of it too!
Just another senseless article to try and frustrate and discredit Arenas before he ever steps on the court. It is almost as if some reporters are trying thier damndest to make this thing fail. Wall and Arenas obviously have respect for one another, Arenas knows that Wall is the future..why would he step on the kid’s toes??
Couldn’t help but notice how quiet Arenas has been so far this season and rarely will give an interview, seems like the media is trying to punish him for that decision.
by TheRealBigMike on Oct 28, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I just think the whole idea of "whose" team it is is silly and childish. It's a team.
Actually I think it’s Ted’s team.
by MR on Oct 28, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Flip gushes too much.
What if Blatche is the best player on the team this year? What if Mcgee has the breakout year we’re all hoping? Will Flip still point the finger their way everytime something goes wrong as he did in preseason?
I’m all for the Wall era!! But this kid is 20yrs old, please dont have him on such a pedestal that he wont be critiqued publicly for bad play the way everyone else is. Remember all the stuff Doc has said about Rondo? Look how that’s working out…
The answer to the question
I agree that Arenas and his contract are the elephant in the room. That doesn’t make him THE MAN on this team. Why?
1. He hasn’t even really practiced with THIS team.
2. THIS team has never experienced Gilbert as a leading STAR. Who on this roster has experienced that Gilbert? Blatche. Anyone else?
3. Who has the ball? John Wall. His future is the Wizards future. The end.
by Jheiser3 on Oct 28, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Mike touches on this
For the media, Gil is the face of the Wizards because he is the guy they want to interview. (That could change if Wall starts having huge games.)
But in all other respects, Wall is the face of the Wizards. They are building around him. If he isn’t already the team’s leader, he will be in time.
Nonsense
This is just another example of trying to make Gilbert Arenas the focal point and the story. This is John Wall’s team, end of story. Gilbert has stated it. The owner has stated it. So why are we having this debate?
by ThePGPhenomenon on Oct 28, 2010 2:22 PM EDT reply actions
yes - no question
i’m over this and believe it’s a media-driven issue now.
100% off topic – anyone else notice that BOTH jamison and haywood are not starters anymore?
"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier
by little stevie colter on Oct 28, 2010 2:25 PM EDT reply actions
wait for it.............wait for it...........
I’m just waiting to hear about an altercation during a Dallas practice between Haywood and Chandler.
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
Nobody
seems to acknowledge that Jamison has a bit of an ego. He always had a sense of entitlement. I think Flip was talking about him and Butler at the beginning of training camp. You only hear the good things, but nobody is perfect.
by ThePGPhenomenon on Oct 28, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Some of us have been taling about his ego
and preciousness for awhile
I am just a bitter Wizards fan who clings to my bobbleheads and that 2005 playoff series victory!
by George Templeton on Oct 28, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Jamison should start -- he is great at leading a team to the lottery
Yeah, that was a cheap shot. Sorry.
How exactly has he been bitching? I haven’t seen any stories, so I would like the juicy details!
Here's a link
“It is what it is,” he said. “I don’t know what the role is going to (entail). I don’t know how many minutes I’ll play. I’m up in the air, just like you.”
’’We’ve all got egos,‘’ Jamison said. ’’But right now, if [Scott] feels that’s the best way for us to win, I have to go with that. It’ll be tough, but I just have to find a way to get a rhythm off the bench and do what I have to do to help these guys win. We’ll see. J.J. has been playing well and you have to understand that.’’
by MR on Oct 28, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't see that as whining...
Whining would be “It’s not fair, I’ve earned it, I’m a vet, a double-double guy my whole career, etc.”
I don't think either of those quotes is bitching, whining, or grumbling
Short of “Great idea coach” I am not sure what else he could say.
“Do what I have to do to help these guys win”
“JJ has been playing well and you have to understand that”
Come on, you guys are looking for excuses.
Haters? Maybe not. But you are all acting like Dislikers.
Dislikers!
by MR on Oct 28, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on now
Here’s the right thing to say.
“Obviously, it’s the coaches decision. J.J. has been playing really well for us, and I think he should be rewarded for that with the starting job. It’s definitely going to be an adjustment for me, but I’m going to do everything possible to the best I can to help this team win in whatever way my coach asks.”
"Obviously, it’s the coaches decision
vs
if [Scott] feels that’s the best way for us to win, I have to go with that.
J.J. has been playing really well for us, and I think he should be rewarded for that with the starting job
vs
J.J. has been playing well and you have to understand that
It’s definitely going to be an adjustment for me
vs
t’ll be tough, but I just have to find a way to get a rhythm off the bench
but I’m going to do everything possible to the best I can to help this team win in whatever way my coach asks
vs
do what I have to do to help these guys win
There is really very little difference in these quotes
by MR on Oct 28, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Let me try that again
“Obviously, it’s the coaches decision
vs
if [Scott] feels that’s the best way for us to win, I have to go with that.
J.J. has been playing really well for us, and I think he should be rewarded for that with the starting job
vs
J.J. has been playing well and you have to understand that
It’s definitely going to be an adjustment for me
vs
t’ll be tough, but I just have to find a way to get a rhythm off the bench
but I’m going to do everything possible to the best I can to help this team win in whatever way my coach asks
vs
do what I have to do to help these guys win
There is really very little difference in these quotes
by MR on Oct 28, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Which was first though?
Without looking at the timing of the quote you posted, I would guess it came after his first quote, so he kind of realized he needed to engage in some damage control.
If I’m wrong, I take it back.
I don't know
but that is making a lot of assumptions, especially given that the quote you posted is pretty benign. If you read it with a nasty crabby tone then it sounds like an a-hole complaining. If you read it with a thoughtful questioning tone then it sounds like a guy trying to figure out his new role.
Honestly I see nothing here. I think your bias is showing.
by MR on Oct 28, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Still doesn't sound whiny or grumpy.
I’m not saying Jamison can’t be that way — all of us Wizards-watchers know he can — but I don’t think those quotes prove it. In his shoes, I might be a little perturbed, too, I have to admit.
I'm not denying that, to be honest
Just saying that all this talk about him being the ideal teammate willing to sacrifice goes up in smoke sometimes when he’s asked to sacrifice himself.
He’ll be a pro regardless, but let’s not pretend he’s a perfect leader.
You're right.
He’s far from the perfect pro. But those comments were awful vanilla; I think you read too much into them. Your general point is correct, that Jamison isn’t the guy many portray him to be, i.e. the “consummate pro.”
And if Arenas said it
after being benched – the entire blog-o-sphere would blow up…. ESPN.com columnists would have more fodder for their “bash Arenas” campaign….
But since it’s being said by “good guy” Jamison – it’s taken with a grain of salt – or rather, spun in a positive light.
We all followed Antawn last year – and he was far from the “professional”, gracious, veteran leader he’s made out to be – complaining about younger players making mistakes , complaining about not getting enough “touches”, and in general showing how NOT to be a leader…
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Oct 28, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with that, Rook...
My point was that those specific comments don’t scream “bitchy” or “whiny”. That’s all.
All I'm saying is
read them, keeping in mind his past actions and comments in Washington- and you get a different take on it…
In and by themselves, they can be portrayed innocently…. with past context, it’s bitching and whining…
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
Sigh.
The context is the interview itself, not Jamison’s past. Mike was using Jamison’s past to broaden the meaning of the quotes. But the quotes, in the proper context, don’t carry the meaning Mike claimed. IMO, of course.
So in other words
if you do exactly what you hate columnists for doing then you can see Jamison in a negative light.
by MR on Oct 28, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't mind seeing Jamison come back
but only in a mentor/reserve roll. Especially since he spent his prime years here, only fitting to let him finish out his career here and keep him a part of the organization.
by TheRealBigMike on Oct 28, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
eh -
"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier
by little stevie colter on Oct 28, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry - overeager with the enter key
eh – i feel for him a little and his crappy situation, but outside of that i’m really glad not to have him on the team.
"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier
by little stevie colter on Oct 28, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
AND -
no reason he wouldn’t bitch about not starting here vs. in cleveland.
"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier
by little stevie colter on Oct 28, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
It is not John Wall team. Dude can not talk sound like a hog, and off the wall have not earn jack. Gilbert is and all way’s will the face off DC.
straight talk
by Mae.jude@yahoo.com on Oct 28, 2010 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
BTW Bill Rohland
is a Arenas hater. I’m listening to him on the Fan and he has had nothing but negative things to say about him. Some of it is true, but a lot of it just sounds like nonsense. There’s too many people that are out to bash Gil, without understanding the totality of what he can do for the Wizards.
by ThePGPhenomenon on Oct 28, 2010 4:47 PM EDT reply actions
Can you please change the post to
“…THe soon the be Bullets…” Please?
Tonight we see the Wizards vs the Magic. That is way too Harry Potter for me.

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