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Endorsing Cartier Martin and Hamady N'Diaye for the last roster spot, and links

Back when newspapers mattered (okay, I'm exaggerating, they still do this), they used to endorse different candidates for different political offices.  We've never really done that here, because our endorsement comes from the community, not from the site editors.

That said, before we get into the links, I wanted to throw out an endorsement for who should make the Wizards' final roster.  The Wizards have three open spots, and it's possible they use them all because they can cut any of their final three guys in contention for those spots (Cartier Martin, Lester Hudson and Hamady N'Diaye) anytime before January and not have their contract count against the cap.  However, I'm guessing they'll only fill two of them in case they need to make an unbalanced trade or in case they want to add somebody.  

If they only fill two spots, let me formally advocate they fill them with Martin and N'Diaye.  

Why?  Martin seems pretty self-explanatory.  He's done everything the team has asked of him since he came into the fold late last season.  In the Summer League, he played hard, displaying a level of attentiveness most Summer League players don't show, and then he followed it up with an excellent preseason.  With the Wizards short on swingmen, he's an obvious fit.  

So that leaves N'Diaye and Hudson.  For the longest time, I would have said keep Hudson, especially with the new rules that allow you to assign cut players to your D-League affiliate.  But Hudson was pretty bad during the preseason, shooting too much, shooting poorly and turning the ball over.  With John Wall and two other combo guards on the roster already, I don't see a huge need for Hudson at the end of the bench.  N'Diaye, at least, is worth keeping around to retain his rights.  If he gets cut, goes down and tears it up in the D-League, then we run the risk of him going elsewhere.  I say you might as well keep him and sign an emergency point guard if you run into injuries on the perimeter.  That guy can replace Hudson's production pretty easily.

So that's my take.  What's yours?

Links below the jump.

Star-divide

  • So remember that secret project I mentioned a couple days ago.  It's something called "Voice On The Floor," a new audio magazine of sorts started by Matt Moore and Rob Mahoney of Hardwood Paroxysm ("NPR for the NBA" was how it was explained to me).  For their first issue, they talked to Michael Lee, Kyle Weidie and I about the Wizards' season last year, which they deemed "A Season In Ruins." Here's my part, and here's Lee's section.
  • Really great article by Joe Treutlein about whether Gilbert Arenas can return to form.  The best way is to stop shooting long two-point jumpers. [HoopData]
  • Richard Deitsch on John Wall, the new face of the Wizards. [Sports Illustrated]
  • Josh Howard is well ahead of schedule in his rehab, says Flip Saunders. Also, Gilbert Arenas practiced yesterday, so his groin appears to be healed. [Stouffer]
  • Another recap of yesterday's practice. [Truth About It]
  • Chris Mannix picks the Wizards to finish fourth in the Southeast. [Sports Illustrated]
  • Early extensions for Yi Jianlian and Al Thornton would been "discussed," but that's about as far as the Wizards will go. [Marc Stein]
  • Ric Bucher and Chris Broussard debate whether the Magic should trade for Arenas. Bucher says yes, Broussard says no. [ESPN Insider]
  • Mahoney believes the Wizards will be much better offensively this year. [Off the Dribble, NYTimes.com]
  • John Schuhmann writes that the Wizards are "unpredictable" and a "fascinating study," even when you take Arenas out of the equation. [NBA.com]
  • The Wizards went to Morton's Steakhouse yesterday and made food for veterans in something called the "Salute to the Stars." [Wizards.com recap and videoCSN Video]
  • Speaking of Wizards.com, this was a pretty cool first episode of Wizards magazine. [Wizards.com]
  • On CSNWashington.com, CJ writes about who is in line to be the starting small forward. [CSN Washington]
  •  Andrew Sharp on Gilbert Arenas: " the fake-injury "scandal" last week was just another in a long line of weird Gilbert stories. If he was still a great player, we'd have applauded him for it. But as soon as he stopped being good on the court, he stopped being beloved in the court of public opinion." [SBNation.com]
  • A really smart and funny preview by J.E. Skeets of The Basketball Jones. [TBJ]
  • Joseph White of the AP previews the Wizards, with a typical "newness vs. Gilbert Arenas" angle. [AP]
  • Michael Lee also took part in this podcast with Matt Moore on CBSSports.com. [NBA Facts and Rumors Podcast]
  • This is year 50 of the Wizards/Bullets franchise, so here's a look back at the worst shooters in franchise history. [Truth About It]
  • ESPN The Magazine has teamed with Marvel Comics for their NBA preview. Here's their art of John Wall. [SB Nation D.C.Truth About It]
  • Caron Butler is clearly still lusting after that new contract.  Prepare yourselves, Mavericks fans.  This didn't go over well last year. [Fanhouse]

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I am shocked!

Shocked that you said N’Diaye. LOL. I like your reasoning he has more “potential” than Hudson and the Wizards can more easily replace what Hudson provides. And if we have learned nothing else this preseason it is that (barring injury) Wall, Arenas and Hinrich will log most if not all of the guard minutes – with Young getting what is left over at the two. Given that tie up a spot with a guy who will not see the floor at that position. N’Diaye while very raw, has height (which we all know can’t be tought) and has the potential to be a good defender and rebounder. The Wiz want to retain his rights any way possible to give him the time to develop. For now, the best decision is to hold onto him as long as they can or until he can sign a contract in Europe.

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by CJ Hempfield on Oct 22, 2010 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Did N'Diaye play?

There ought to be some sort of standard such as you have to recognize the guy on the court if he makes an appearance. Otherwise, D League or oblivion.

Why not go with 13?

by Izman on Oct 22, 2010 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

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The other 3 can be sent down, so he’d be there to go to the D-League.

by Mike Prada on Oct 22, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

He played in 3 games and averaged about 7 mpg. Two of the three games that he played in were not televised… but when you average 7 minutes, even if they were televised it would be easy to miss them.

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by CJ Hempfield on Oct 22, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to beat a dead horse

since I’ve commented on this subject ad nauseam in other posts – but I agree with you Mike… They should keep Cartier Martin and N’diaye.

Further – I think that N’diaye and Seraphin should be sent to get some d-League run…. Let them get their legs under themselves here for a month of the season – let them know what to work on, and send them to the Dakota Wizards for some extended playing time.

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Oct 22, 2010 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree mucho re: Seraphin...

…but after his “No, no, no, that was never discussed…” response re: D-League work early on, how would that be approached?

We're from the city with the highest murder rate in the country. Why WOULDN'T they call us the Bullets?
"You know what Jack Burton says at a time like this?"
"WHO?"
"Jack Burton. ME. Old Jack always says, 'What the hell?'"

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Oct 23, 2010 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Flip Saunders: “H, we’d like to sign you to a non-guaranteed contract to play for the Wizards – - – but it’s contingent on you developing your game in the D-League”

Hamady: "Uh….. Coach. I thought I could just play here.

Flip: "Well, it’s either D-League, or we drop you.

Hamady: “Dakota here I come”…

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Oct 23, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bullet Nation in Exile is referring to Seraphin

The Wizards told him they would not send him to D-league.

by steadyhand on Oct 23, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t remember ever seeing anything that said the Wizards wouldn’t send him to D-League… Link please…

I remember his agent saying he did not want to go to the D-League…. but that’s COMPLETELY different… In my mind, if a player wants a contract, they’ll do whatever the club asks them to do.

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Oct 23, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seraphin already has a contract.

“There was an agreement between Washington and Seraphin’s agent, Bouna N’Diaye that Kevin would not be assigned to the NBADL. "

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2010/8/29/1657279/ready-or-not-wizards-rookie-kevin

Surely that’s a verbal agreement, so they can always send him there whether he likes it or not.

by DCrez on Oct 23, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

That Hoopdata article exactly mirrors my thoughts on Arenas

I believe that playing alongside Wall (and Hinrich) will allow Gilbert to become a much more efficient scorer… I didn’t express it nearly as well as Joe Treutlein did in the Hoopdata article.

These paragraphs, especially, lay out a logical argument for why Gil will be more efficient…

From a statistical standpoint, this could be a major boon for Arenas, as he should get a lot more open looks, something that didn’t happen very frequently in 09-10 where he was assisted on just 24.9% of his FGM (compared to 35.5% in 06-07).

Looking at Arenas’ limited 4-game, 81-minute preseason sample, there is already some evidence of change as he converted on a strong 58.4% TS%, though his usage dropped substantially to 20.7% as a result of him playing alongside two other shot creators.

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Oct 22, 2010 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

A rebuilding team. A gaping hole at your position. But you are still cut.

"I thought adam did a lot of positives things. He’s probably just not quite there yet. I think There’s no question he can still play and be effective."

I don’t believe you, Flip.

by MR on Oct 22, 2010 2:49 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

No one believes him

But he had to say it anyway.

Seriously, how dickish would it be of him to say “yeah, Adam sucks. We needed a small forward badly, but the dude just couldn’t hack it. I hope he saved money from that rookie contract, because otherwise his next job will be flipping burgers.”

…Though granted, it would be kinda awesome too.

by sierradave on Oct 22, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man

you guys are cold…..

Dude just lost his job – - – not to mention that he may never experience his dream of playing in the NBA again…

Remind me to never let anyone here know if I lose my job…..

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Oct 22, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

tongue in cheek

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Oct 22, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gaping hole?

In the same breath, Flip mentioned that Josh Howard is much closer to returning than previously anticipated…. In addition, the Wizards have 3 more players (Thornton, Young and Cartier Martin) that play SF… all with more experience in the Wizard’s system.

We know that Howard is not the long term answer -and that Thornton, Young and Martin are simply there to plug holes until they can find a permanent solution at SF…. And certainly Morrison was not the answer – but not because he can no longer play. I still think there’s a possibility for him to play in the NBA.

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Oct 22, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he just washed out of the most available job for him in the NBA. To me that says he is done.

by MR on Oct 22, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

I wish him luck, but this sure looks like a bad sign.

And I’ll I meant with the flip comment was that hearing the coach speak THAT candidly would be crazy to the point of awesomeness.

by sierradave on Oct 22, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shaun Livingston

10 day contract guy?

Seems like there are way more guards available in March than there are centers. I think a few of those late call-up guards torched the wiz a time or two (I’m thinking Nets on this).

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by Natepyatt on Oct 22, 2010 7:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

...

What about Shaun Livingston?

We're from the city with the highest murder rate in the country. Why WOULDN'T they call us the Bullets?
"You know what Jack Burton says at a time like this?"
"WHO?"
"Jack Burton. ME. Old Jack always says, 'What the hell?'"

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Oct 23, 2010 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's providing an example of what you can get

And I agree. Which is why I don’t think they should keep Hamady either. He doesn’t look like he has much potential to me. Other teams will cut better young players. Let’s bring them in instead.

by steadyhand on Oct 23, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

Hudson was fun to watch, but he offers less to the team today than Martin and doesn’t have the upside of N’Diaye.

Adam Morrison should have stayed because he would have made the Wiz the clear cut all-interview team with Gil, JoHo and NY already on board.

by Jon Kelman on Oct 23, 2010 1:07 AM EDT reply actions  

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