Leftover notes from yesterday's game
First things first: I wrote a feature story about Yi Jianlian for SB Nation D.C. here. The gist is that the Wizards have gone out of their way to make sure Yi feels comfortable in this environment, because all accounts are that he was lost in Milwaukee and New Jersey. From the sounds of it, he pretty much hated playing for last year's Nets team. So far, he's rewarded their faith with a solid preseason.
As for the Gilbert Arenas issue - Sean's at practice today and will have a full report with Flip Saunders' reaction later.
Some other quick notes from interviews last night.
- I missed talking to Arenas, but I watched Truth About It's video and found some interesting non-fake injury nuggets.
- Arenas had this to say about Nick Young: "I used to talk to Eddie Jordan about it. I said that, when he gets in, you can't treat him like the rest of us. You can't put him in plays like the rest of us. His basketball skill is straight raw, so you have to treat him like D-Wade. You have to say, 'Okay, I'll bring up the ball, let him get the ball and do pick-and-roll and ISO plays.' He's a great one-on-one player, and I think when you put him in offense and have him sit in the corner, you lose him. He's one of those guys you have to keep talking to -- say 'Come on, I'm looking for you' -- so he can stay in the game. Needless to say, I'm not so thrilled that Gil thinks this.
- He also said this about playing again: "Basketball is basketball, but this is the city where I have been playing for the last eight years. I know they love me here, so Thursday, I'll be out there."
- He also continues to believe he's a good fit off the ball. "When Larry [Hughes] left, the two was Jared Jeffries and DeShawn Stevenson, so I had to score, but I always want another guard to help me. When you go back in league history, name two guards that never got along with each other. It's usually the guard and the big man who never get along, because the guard has the ball and the big man wants the ball. But two guards always play well together."
- Non-Arenas stuff.
- Flip Saunders once again took a little shot at last year's roster when I asked him how far along this group was at picking up his system. "This year's team doesn't feel entitled and is more receptive and more trusting right now [than last year's team]," he said, later adding that "the ball doesn't stick as much [this year as last year], and when it sticks, it sticks in your point guard hands, which is the guy that's going to make decisions."
- Saunders said Andray Blatche is still working his way back from his summer injury, and therefore, his conditioning isn't quite there yet.
- On that front, Blatche had this to say: "I've only played basketball for two weeks now after not playing for four months. I'm getting there. It's a rhythm thing. I passed my conditioning test, and it's a process. Anyone that doesn't touch a basketball or really do stuff for four months is going to be dragging. It's a process and I'm going to continue working at it."
- Nick Young graded his defense as a B+/A-, after starting off as a C. I also noticed he wasn't celebrating much after shots, and asked him about it. "I'm a grown man now," he said. "I look after John, and he's a rookie. I'm a vet now, so I got to set the tone."
- JaVale McGee once again said he's trying to "lower" his style, though he said "if I finger roll or something, I can't help that. It's just what I do. But I'm still trying to be strong and rebound and stuff like that, become more of a big man in that aspect."
- He also didn't seem to indicate he's really worked on any big-man "tricks," other than boxing out. "I don't even turn around to box out anymore, I just look at my man and keep pushing him off until I know he's not going for the ball. Then, I'll go get the ball." He also said he's working a bit with Gene Banks on his development, saying he's working with him on hook shots and post moves "so that we're more stable and not out of control out there." He said he occasionally works separately with him, but mostly, it's all the big men together.
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I agree with your assessment of Gil's statements on Nick
I can kinda see both sides of the argument though. On the one hand, Nick has the instinct and the skillset of a one-on-one player. However he doesn’t have the killer instinct and basketball IQ of a Kobe Bryant, not to mention an all-around game apart from scoring. The conclusion is that while Nick Young might seem like a great one-on-one player, if he were to play that kind of role it would not be good for the team as a whole.
On the other hand, If you put him in a role, you might lose even more mentally as Gil said. But I guess in the end it really is time for Nick to grow up, and the only way he can thrive on this time is to play a role (whether that be 3-and-D or off-the-bench scorer or whatever) and he has to be prepared to expand his game and do a little bit of everything and not go out and get 0 assists and 0 rebounds even when he has a decent game.
I liked this quote from NY
I’m a vet now, so I got to set the tone.
by MR on Oct 13, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont
I heard him saying stuff like this in a summer league video and a couple of other times. To me this tells me he doesnt understand his position in this team. He thinks he’s one of the top dogs, a leader, while he is a rotation player who needs to bring energy and scoring off the bench.
That misconception will lead to an unhappy Nick this season because he will be on the bench (rakking up a couple of dnp’s coach discission as well) unhappy players are bad for team chemistry obviously.
"If you don't shoot, you can't score"
Johan Cruijff
by Dutch Hoopfan on Oct 14, 2010 5:24 AM EDT up reply actions
If Arenas is telling the truth...
His track record in doing that doesn’t inspire confidence. The saintly “helping Nick out” strategy is just as likely an excuse he invented after the game (particularly since young didn’t initially corroborate it), but that’s really beside the point.
The point is that once more, after a game with the cameras rolling, Arenas has found a way to make it be about him. Even while dogging it on the bench. And this is just preseason. Wait till we’re getting close to the trade deadline.
Who I wish we had starting at the 2 (aside from pretty much any other guard in the league) is that kid Jordan Crawford. Please someone remind me again why he was a worse draft pick than Seraphin or Booker?
Nick seems like he is trying to grow up a bit....
He also really had a lovely offensive game going last night and picked off a couple of passes in the lanes, Hughes 2005 style. The rebounding and assists were being taken care of quite effectively by other teammates.
That said there will be times when he will have to rebound if he is nominally playing the 3, and also pick up an assist or two, particuarly if he is running with the second unit with inside passes to the likes of Hilton Armstrong and Kevin Seraphin, who are both strong finishers.
This is Nick’s last shot to be more than a run-of-the mill NBA player and I hope he gets every opportunity to prove himself… particularly so as nothing that has been said or written about him suggests that he is anything more than a nice, sorta goofy kid with a good scorer’s instinct.
Nah. KISS.
Keep It Simple, Stupid. We need to simplify the game as much as possible for Nick: move without the ball, catch and shoot, stick to your man on the defensive end. Don’t confuse him with talk about assists or rebounds or help defense.
If he can get that down, he will be a very, very effective player as our kryptonite against the elite / high usage wingmen of the league.
Nick, Gilbert, and Kirk give us some very interesting, very different options.
Yi relocation
I enjoyed the article about Yi, Mike. Any idea if the Wiz designated anyone specifically to help Yi settle in? I read an article once about how badly soccer clubs screw up with getting foreign players acclimated. Wouldn’t surprise me if NBA teams did just as bad of a job. Seems like it would be a good investment to do what you can to help your players get comfortable.
Found the article here: http://www.joinmust.org/forum/showthread.php?t=49585
Nick Young was born to play basketball. He will be around far a long time, so keep blessing young game, with negativity, bad word’s is what make a person grow strong.
straight talk
by Mae.jude@yahoo.com on Oct 13, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions
look man
we all love nick young. I’ve been the biggest Nick fan for ages, i’m always rooting for the guy to start getting it and putting a real game together. however that doesn’t take away from the fact that up to this point in his career he’s been a chronic underachiever. He’s one of those guys who is a superstar in NBA2K and a benchwarmer in real life. We all love Nick Young here. But he needs to start putting it together now and blossom into a player the team can use.
nobody here is hatin’. We’re just frustrated when Nick can’t seem to put it together and I think that feeling is justified by Nick’s history.
by Marine4Life51 on Oct 13, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
JaVale McGee
I don’t really care too much about his post moves, if he’s not going to box out on defense. His offense will come, but his defense and rebounding will help this team even more this year.
by ThePGPhenomenon on Oct 13, 2010 3:35 PM EDT reply actions
This is what we mean by "locker-room cancer":
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2010/10/gilbert-arenas-i-screwed-up-ag.html
Takeaway quote from Nick Young: “if he did.”
What the hell???
“I don’t even turn around to box out anymore, I just look at my man and keep pushing him off until I know he’s not going for the ball. Then, I’ll go get the ball.” JaVale McGee
That's actually how coaches teach boxing out in high school.
They teach you not to worry about the ball, don’t even look at it. You are taught to put a forearm to your man’s chest and then box him out of the lane before you even look for the ball.
I guess JaVale is a little slow on development here. But you gotta start somewhere. You would think an NBA center could box out while getting the ball is his hands.
by PhenomenalSwag on Oct 14, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
That isnt how my coach taught me
Get your back into your guy, get lower position and make sure he doesn’t get around you (whether or not you get the ball)
I find Gil’s comments about Nick oddly refreshing. Because what he describes is exactly what we’ve seen so far with Nick – he’s a one-on-one player, who’s explosively athletic, but doesn’t seem to play well in sets. Does that mean that that’s how he should play, and how the coaching staff should use him? No, of course not. But I like the idea that Gil is talking about what approach to take to motivate Nick, even if what he describes isn’t exactly the best approach. I want to see Flip motivate Nick Young, and get him to realize some of that potential.
Oh, and Nick talking about joking less and leading more? I don’t care if it’s true, I like that he’s saying it, and thinking it.

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