Washington Wizards vs. New Jersey Nets: Regular Season Game 45 Open Thread
by Mike Prada on Jan 29, 2010 4:08 PM EST
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PrintWashington Wizards at New Jersey Nets, Jan 29, 2010 8:00 PM EST
The Essentials:
Wizards (14-30) vs. Nets (4-40)
8 p.m.
IZOD Center
TV: CSN
Radio: 106.7 The Fan
Notable Nets numbers this season
30th in expected winning percentage (.142)
17th in pace (92.5 possessions per game)
30th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (97.5 points/100 possessions)
28th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (110.9 points allowed/100 possessions)
Pre-game links
Nets Daily, SB Nation's Nets Blog
Nets Are Scorching
NaS: Nets need to play to win
Devin Harris out, Courtney Lee in
Mike Wise on all the Wizards' struggles
GameDay New Jersey
| Tonight's Projected Starters | ||
|---|---|---|
| Wizards | vs. | Nets |
| Randy Foye | PG | Keyon Dooling |
| Mike Miller | SG | Courtney Lee |
| Caron Butler | SF | Chris Douglas-Roberts |
| Antawn Jamison | PF | Yi Jianlian |
| Brendan Haywood | C | |
The New Jersey Nets display the extreme case of what happens when you completely blow things up. In the short term, losing happens. Maybe not this much losing, but losing nonetheless. It's probably unbelievably frustrating for Nets fans to sit there and watch this year's team.
However, the Nets have a great situation for a rebuilding team. They have young players that are building blocks. In Brook Lopez, they have a young center, the most coveted young type of player you could have. They have several mid-level prospects, ranging from Yi Jianlian to Terrence Williams. Finally, they have tons of cap room that they could use this year or save for the future (here's hoping they don't use it now). There's no guarantee it all works out, but the pieces are starting to fall into place even as they lose.
Trading away all our big contracts will result in a Nets-like season in the short-term (though hopefully not THAT bad). However, it'll also put us in good position to make positives steps going forward. The Nets could easily be in a very good spot going forward, or it all could have failed, but they at least gave themselves a chance at real long-term success. That's all you can do. Startups lose money before they succeed. Relationships are best when they're done slowly. You can't make up 18 points with one shot. And ... enough metaphors.
Regardless, the Nets are on a one-game winning streak. No Devin Harris tonight, but this Wizards team can't take anything for granted.
I'll be watching this on delay tomorrow. For everyone else, here's your thread.
GO WIZARDS!
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"If something grows to maturity in a single season,
that’s a weed." — Grandma Bea
The Nets’ talent doesn’t even suck that much right now, leaving alone their ability to sign LeBron and Bosh before their move to Brooklyn. Their roster actually makes some sense; it’s not like you’re looking at it and seeing a bunch of offense-only undersized front court players, or something. They’re young, is the main thing, and they’ve been hurt some. But look at the lineup, and it’s not like anyone there is totally bereft of talent, or playing badly out of position.
Toss in a high pick and whatever free agents next summer, and they’re much improved.
"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."
yea
but what if we can’t even take this one :)
Go Wizards
by ag3ntzero on Jan 29, 2010 5:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Go Wizzies...
please try to avoid giving these people their first 2 game winning streak f the season…
nice freudian typo
‘…f the season’.
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Jan 29, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm
a Nets-like season … (though hopefully not THAT bad)
So, what you’re saying is that if we trade away our big contracts, we’ll have another year like this one and last? Someone remind me why we’re paying those big dollars? Grunfeld better get on the good foot and start accepting offers.
"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!
zero expectations
i’m back to last year’s attitude. just want to see young players play and do well. i am over watching the vets.
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Jan 29, 2010 5:32 PM EST reply actions
You just want to watch the young players do well and you have zero expectations… Scratches head. Am I the only competitive Fam at BF lol sheesh. If I wanna watch young talent I’ll go to my VCU college games they move the ball better in a 2 game series than Wiz do all year.
by Unxpekted on Jan 29, 2010 6:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
"Relationships are best when they're done slowly. "
My relationship with this team has slowly effed me.
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by Kyle Weidie on Jan 29, 2010 6:56 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
No fair!
The Celtics rebuilt quickly … how the hell did they deserve that?
Ain’t Kevin McHale good friends with Flip Saunders? Oh, wait … he’s not a crappy GM anymore.
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The Wiz just may find some way to lose this one. I'm just saying...
The sports teams in this town have repeatedly ripped my heart out. I’ll be glad as heck should they beat a team that they SHOULD beat, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they don’t.
I mean, the Nets gotta win 2 in a row at some point, right?
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i cant believe this!
we are getting beat by a 4 win team, if we lose tonight, this has got to be one of the worst on-court diasters i have ever seen
by Skins4ever on Jan 29, 2010 8:44 PM EST reply actions
they will end up getting beat by 12 in the end
by Skins4ever on Jan 29, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
i cant even say it
we are only down by 1 point
by Skins4ever on Jan 29, 2010 8:51 PM EST reply actions
if we do blow up this team
can we like make a play to get Courtney Lee or somethin
So - the Wizards are in the bonus with 7:30 left to go
and Jamison comes down and shoots a 3-point air-ball with 16 seconds left on the shot clock………
Way to take advantage AJ !!
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
Wiz in the bonus
but NJ has more FT’s this quarter…..
This team just doesn’t get it…
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
they haven't had slashers since the MJ Era
but then again, back then they had very few reliable shooters.
WHERE IS JAVALE!!!!!!!!!!!
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Jan 29, 2010 9:58 PM EST reply actions
I like this line-up
without Butler and Jamison in the game, the ball moves more…
Blatche and Miller seem to work well together….
Young playing good defense on both CDR and Jarvis Hayes
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
Whoa, just checking in on this game
And plus/minus of the starters vs. the bench is astounding. Has it been really that stark?
The big question, I guess, is whether Flip has the guts to go with the bench the rest of the way. A wild guess — no.
Yeah reallu not a smart move
Anyone see the suns game last night? Gentry sat Amare the whole fourth quarter cuz the bench was doing good.
by FNFWizardsFan on Jan 29, 2010 10:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
amare sat on the bench and rooted for the team
jamison would be pouting and kicking water bottles.
but jamison is a great character guy
He only kicked those bottles
to keep his ankles loose. He’s a true professional.
i wish somebody would put together a post documenting
jamisons behavior this year and de-bunk this myth….
starting with the lobbying for the all-star team on the worst team in the league.
Let's not go crazy
He truly has been a rock in this mess of a season. We knock him on occasion probably as a knee-jerk reaction to the over-the-top, walk-on-water praise he gets.
agreed
but i think the lobbying for the all-star team (while clearly worrying about his #s) threw me over the top
God i hate Oberto so, so much
He is so useless, hes to old and slow to guard anyone so he fouls all the time, and he is not an offensive threat in anyway. I hate watching him play way more then Boykins
by FNFWizardsFan on Jan 29, 2010 10:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
that's because the team overall is pretty bad
on a veteran playoff team, Oberto is the tough postplayer that can help make a key stop or get a crucial rebound. Here? He’s the guy who fouls out before everyone else.
right -
remember when the season started, and he seemed like a great pick-up for the post-season? that’s why he’s here.
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Jan 29, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
I think those days are over
He’s to slow to stop anyone and the only way he gets rebounds is by shoving people, which usually gets called for a foul. He had zero rebounds tonight, the ability of getting rebounds shouldn’t become non-existence just cuz he’s on a bad team
by FNFWizardsFan on Jan 29, 2010 10:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the things he does well work best with "slow" teams
who run 90% half-court sets, eat clock, and are successful-yet-boring, a la San Antonio (where he used to play).
this game is a train wreck
kind of fun though
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Jan 29, 2010 10:21 PM EST reply actions
OK, guys -- 13 seconds left
Earl, dribble for 12.5 and then hoist!
by disgrunted on Jan 29, 2010 10:25 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I can't believe I called it.
What a terrible play, even though he made it.
ha - that's classic
congrats
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Jan 29, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
i guess - it's so hard to tell the difference
at this point in the season
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Jan 29, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Whoodeloohoo lets rebuild around boykin
makes as much sense as anything else
by morethesamewiz on Jan 29, 2010 10:27 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Asshole comment of the night
If we win the remaining 35 games, that would have given us 4th seed in the Eastern conference last season by 5 games over 5th seed Atlanta. Do you believe in miracles?
by morethesamewiz on Jan 29, 2010 10:33 PM EST reply actions
there's also a difference between devine and divine
BURN
jp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
As the Wizards win the game
but lose another ping pong ball in the John Wall sweepstakes….
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
Boykins won this one the same way...
he won a game against Milwaukeee at home earlier… dribbles, dribbles, dribbles and then something opens up. Against Milwaukee it led to a wide open slam for Haywood. This time it led to an open jumper for the little guy.
It does not work every time obviously, but when it does work it vindicates how Earl of necessity has to play his game.
Yep another lost ping pong ball, but the draft is a bit deeper this year, and once Jamison, Haywood, Butler and Miller are gone, the Wizzies will have plenty of opportunities to pick up ping png balls anyway.
Boykins
The coach drew up a play for him and he delivered. I’m not sure what the complaints are around here. He was the hot hand at the time (team’s high scorer and +15) and one of the few guys on the team who can really create his own shot in that time span.
Didn't get a chance to see this game
But judging from the box score, I’m not too upset about it. No starter for the Wiz in double figures? Jamison and Butler combining for 17 points? Man, I’m glad the Wizards won, but this team is certainly in disarray.
AJ was just cold. He hurt his shoulder and he was way off after that.
The bench came in with a ton of energy. They seemed to run the offense well. Blatche looked possessed out there. It was nice to see.
Acutually the starters seemed to be working hard on running the offense, not jacking up a jumper early in the clock. They didn’t look bad in theory, but in practice turned the ball over a bunch and weren’t hitting their shots.
I didn’t think “disarray” while watching, but rather that everyone was thinking too much, which maybe isn’t such a bad thing at this point.
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