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Wiz Planholders meeting/some stuff about Gil etc


So the wiz are doing some planholder meetings before games - the object is to find out about what we like and dislike about our experiences. They had 5 people there - all on the business/sales side of things and including one person who came down from the league in NYC. 2 of the people there were VP's.

Some stuff that was said:

1. Wizards did not leak any material to the media. (I was mentioning about the media and all of the rumors and gave the example of Ernie leaking stuff, and they answered this even though I didn't actually mean them to answer it)

2. Wiz are very frustrated because they are not able to explain their side of things. Everything of course is being vetted by lawyers. They are a lot of people pissed about the removing of Gil's jerseys etc. I told one of the VP's I would post what they were saying on this blog and he was really grateful.

3. RIght now the league is asking every player to disclose what firearms and weapons they have. There has been some talk about searching players before they go into the locker rooms but this won't happen according to the NBA person.

4. Before the season, Gil signed some papers that stated the do's and don'ts of being a Wizards player. He knew he wasn't allowed to bring guns into the locker room.

5. I talked to one of the VP's privately and he was talking about Gil being a 28 year old man and how at some point he has to grow up.

6. Wiz were not going to take any action when this broke because they wanted the legal process to play out. Gil forced their hand. Stern basically suspended him because he expressed no remorse, was lying on his twitter, and didn't seem to understand that what he had done was wrong.

7. One of the VP's expressed some anger that everyone seems to think they have abandoned Gil. It seems to be open as to when the jerseys come back, if Gil comes back etc. They want him to express remorse, understand what he did and change. (Not sure if this was said because they know the contract will be hard to void but I didn't get that impression)

8. It seems to be totally up to Stern how long Gil is suspended for. Wiz have no say.

9. Reason they removed his jerseys and went to such extreme measures is because of the image of the franchise and Gil being the face of the franchise. They didn't want kids looking at his jerseys etc and thinking that what Gil did was okay. It's also not the image they wanted to present. They weren't just abandoning or dismissing him as if he was trash. ( I thought this was really extreme when this happened but I can understand this now. Many people see athletes as role models which to me is unfortunate but is what it is. Athletes have a lot of influence)

I think that is all. Might remember more later. So were they being honest or was this just spin? From the emotions they expressed etc and a private conversation I had with a VP where he said some things I can't write here, I think they were actually being honest. But then again maybe I'm naive and want to believe them.

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no action has been taken because he has admitted nothing and no gun has been found. Wiz seem very glad he is a free agent

by ooba on Jan 22, 2010 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

Great Info! Thanks for posting this!

Its kind of interesting their take on this. I was and probably still am upset at how they handled the situation, but I can understand their side of the story. I can see them taking down the banner and maybe not selling his jerseys because they probably don’t want it to seem like they are making money off of him while he is suspended. But they went out of their way to take him out of the pre-game video, and take pictures of him down from around the arena. I still think its a little excessive.

Also, it does seem like they aren’t totally opposed to a Gil return. Once again thanks for posting this!

by SkinsWizStangs on Jan 22, 2010 10:55 PM EST reply actions  

But could they have done this?

If you take down his jerseys and then still keep him in intro’s etc – isn’t that a mixed message? I realize it seems like they discarded him but maybe you do have to all of this to send a consistent message

by ooba on Jan 22, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you so much for posting this

I think the Wizards’ organization is reacting to the backlash, somewhat. I agree with the above post, that taking down the banner was very appropriate, and not selling jerseys was appropriate because making money off of Gilbert while he was suspended would be wrong. But the other stuff went too far, because by removing him from the pregame videos and some photos around the arena (especially in non-public areas like the media room), you are clearly saying, “This guy is no longer part of the team.” Now, perhaps the Wizards felt keeping those images up was not appropriate (loved sarcasm how they rolled out the “its for the kids” excuse), but if they did that for those reasons, then in one of those many press releases they issued where they hammered Gilbert, they could have simply added a line saying, “Gilbert is still part of our team, and we care about him.” They didn’t, so their message was very clear — they shunned him like they have shunned players in the past. You’ve go to look at the Wizards’ actions in total — the removal of the images, the press releases, their history will players, etc.

As for the rest of the points:

  1. is not to be believed. Sure, the Wizards as an organization did not leak information, but that’s not how leaks work. Somebody tells a reporter. He or she then doesn’t announce to everyone in the organization, “Hey, guess what I just leaked?!”
  1. is very interesting, #4 is damning, and #5 is agreed by everyone on the face of the earth (hopefully including a particular resident of Great Falls, VA).

Thanks again for posting this. You mentioned before that you were going to wear your Arenas jersey to this meeting. Did you, or did you chicken out?

by disgrunted on Jan 23, 2010 8:00 AM EST up reply actions  

For some reason, my post was automatically numbered incorrectly when I submitted it. What I said was that ooba’s point 1 is not to be believed, and her point 3 is very interesting.

by disgrunted on Jan 23, 2010 8:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Preseason Gil

Was asking for accountability from his club.
I am pretty satisfied with the clubs explanation for its actions.

I don’t think Gi lied on his twitter though. Even if there are inaccurate statements, its not under oath. He said what he felt at the time. That is the nature of Twitter its something you accept or you punish. As a society we haven’t decided what it is or what it means. Gil has seemed pretty cooperative so far and its hurt him.

I should be up front I want Gil to retire a Wizard.

Before Stern makes his final decision on how long he’s suspended, I hope Gil steps up in a big way in a statement about Guns. And his remorse.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4850803

So far Gil has been treated unfairly in my book. To start the season, Gilbert was mistrusting of the media. Then the NBA fined him and made him talk to the media. After that an article, comparing apples and oranges, from an unreliable source, complete with ridiculous video comes out.
http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/1:trueslant_743:26d6bd352cd68eb08209377cb67ba272/Gilbert-Arenas-Pulls-Gun-on-Teammate-NBA-Locker-Room-Turns-Into-OK-Corral

Bottom Line, for me as a die hard wizards fan in the middle of laker territory
The best way forward, for both parties, is to step up and turn a negative into a big positive, together.
PS I want an Angry Gilbert Arenas on my team.

by forthepeople on Jan 23, 2010 5:30 AM EST reply actions  

I’m late to this. Great post.

by satchmore on Jan 31, 2010 11:47 AM EST reply actions  

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