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Notes from Day 2 of Washington Wizards Training Camp

For more, check out this story on Andray Blatche and Nick Young, Michael Lee's report, Mike Jones' report and the Wizards.com blog roundups (day practice | night practice).

  • Keeping in mind that I arrived in Richmond from DC at 11:25, the only thing I saw the team doing was running through Flip's offensive sets.  No defenders.  Just five guys running through pick and roll plays, screen plays, post plays, etc. 
  • Randy Foye spent the entire time I watched playing as a point guard.  When I asked Flip Saunders about it, he said that while Foye's role is likely to evolve as training camp and the season progresses, "right now, we're playing him at the 1 to give him an opportunity to learn that spot."
  • Gilbert Arenas reportedly looked good during the scrimmage, with the only limitation being a jammed finger that didn't really seem to be bothering him.  He wasn't made available after practice, but others spoke pretty glowingly about him.  
  • Saunders said Arenas been through every practice and scrimmage thus far without any ill effects, adding that "one of the main comments that came out from our meeting afterwards with the coaches was that they didn't realize how well he can really see the floor, push the ball and create."
  • Antawn Jamison said Arenas is "trying to dunk on people.  I don't know where that came from."  Jamison added that Arenas "has that bounce to his step.  He has that confidence, cockiness.  That's something we haven't seen or heard from the last couple seasons."
  • Brendan Haywood was the only person who didn't go all ga-ga over Arenas' performance, but even he admitted Arenas looked pretty good.  "It's been real early, so I can't say that 'Damn, he looks like the same Gilbert Arenas,' but he's looked very good so far and I'm happy with what he's done."

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  • Dominic McGuire said he's been placed at the shooting guard, small forward and power forward positions at different points in camp, but added that "it's not too hard" to pick up all the responsibilities.
  • Flip on McGuire: "I felt how he played last night [was] the best I've seen him play.  He's a structure-oriented player.  When he knows what his role is and what he can do, he plays at a very high level."  Am I the only one who's wondering why Flip seems to be running him around in a zillion different positions then?
  • Flip's motto has been positivity, so I found it particularly striking that he had something slightly negative to say about JaVale McGee.  "His biggest thing is, when he gets a little tired like anyone does, you mentally become a little shut down and don't react quite as well.  Your mental alterness goes down a little bit," Saunders said.  "I think [JaVale] played extremely well early last night and got tired and lost a little bit down the stretch."  However, Saunders did say McGee "played well" and has "done everything we've asked."
  • Speaking of McGee, Haywood continues to give him tough love.  "I'm not really worried about showing him anything," Haywood said, in response to a question about what he's been doing to help McGee.  "He's a professional.  Once you get to this level, you go to worry about himself.  I think he's making strides, [but] like I said, he just has to do what he has to do.  It's more on him than anybody else."  I hope Haywood realizes that type of treatment is pretty similar to how Eddie Jordan treated him. 
  • What does Antawn Jamison think is the biggest thing in picking up Flip Saunders' offense?  "It's just understanding terminology," Jamison said.  "Being in the spots is easy, you just got to know the terminology [so that] when he calls something out, you gotta know where you gotta be."  Jamison added that "it was more difficult learning Eddie [Jordan's] system than it was learning this system."
  • I've been told that the coaching staff will be administering pop quizzes based on what plays were uploaded to the iTouches in a given day or week.  
  • Comcast SportsNet's Chris Miller joked that Assistant Coach for Statistical Analysis Ryan Saunders, Flip's son who came up with the idea of administering the players iTouches, should get a raise if the move results in better player performance.  Saunders' reply?  "They all want one, don't they?"

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Why does Foye have to “learn that spot”? Isn’t that the position he played last year in the same offense?

by MR on Sep 30, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

1. He played off the ball last year.
2. Flip Saunders didn’t coach the Timberwolves, Kevin McHale did.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Sep 30, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe I’ve misunderstood, since I only saw 2 T-Pups games last year…but I thought Foye was the starting PG and I thought they ran the Hawk offense.

by MR on Sep 30, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

AND I thought I hit ‘reply’.

by MR on Sep 30, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Answer to all three of those is no

1. Telfair was the starting PG. Foye started for Randy Wittman at PG for a bit in 07/08 before he got hurt, but that’s it. Wittman also didn’t run the Hawk because he isn’t nearly smart enough as an offensive guy to do it.
2. They did not run the Hawk offense, they ran a post-oriented attack.
3. You did not hit “reply”

(Okay, the last one was a bit cruel…)

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Sep 30, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just to be fair

Mike – Minny did run some Hawk sets last year….

But MR, even if Foye did run some Hawk last year, it wasn’t the “Flip Saunders” Hawk…. Flip has some different terminology, and some twists to the pure Hubie Brown Hawk.

And Mike’s right… Foye played almost exclusively as the off-guard last year for Minnesota. Telfair (28 mpg) and Gomes (17 mpg) played the bulk of the Point Guard minutes for the Timberwolves last year.

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Sep 30, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Miller did a lot of the ball handling when Telfair was out

Kevin Ollie was technically the back up point guard, though, if I recall correctly.

by pantslessyoda1 on Sep 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

Although that may actually offer some hope for us. If Miller can handle, maybe Flip can find a way to run Foye off screens with Miller dishing to him.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Sep 30, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I meant to say Kevin Ollie (17 mpg)….. then typed Gomes by mistake…

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Sep 30, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

If anyone's interested in downloading and watching some Foye-era TWolves games

check out bballvideos.com They’ve got a bunch of games last year available for download through megaupload, and a couple of them are TWolves games.

One thing I noticed after watching a couple of them is that Foye almost never seemed to handle the ball when he played shooting guard, that he pretty much just took open shots or went to the rim in transition. He always seemed to have trouble finishing around the basket, too, although it was nowhere near as bad as it was for Telfair.

by pantslessyoda1 on Sep 30, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe that's part of why Flip's trying to play him at point guard, then

Granted, big men probably blocked most of those shots, but that’s still an absurd percentage.

by pantslessyoda1 on Sep 30, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

you would think that stat would scare him off from playing PG

Being able to penetrate is an essential PG skill. You can’t just stand on the 3 point line jacking up shots as a PG and never driving. If he can’t be a scoring threat on the drive it would hurt his PG abilities IMO.

by BayAreaBullet on Oct 1, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

on the other hand

That really isn’t terribly bad company to be in.

On the other, other hand, his inside FG% was among the worst in the league.

by bwoodsxyz on Oct 1, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guess I misunderstood

But that’s weird because Foye is listed as starting 61 games (of 70 played) where Telfair is listed as starting only 43 (of 75 played). Glancing through the game logs there are more than a few games that the Pups started Foye and Miller, especially late in the season.

by MR on Sep 30, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I hope Haywood realizes that type of treatment is pretty similar to how Eddie Jordan treated him. "

Eh, understand Brendan has always had a contentious relationship with at least one member of the team. Consider that he has had running feuds with the KFB, then Etan, then Eddie, etc.

Here you have a young puppy who is clearly an evident challenge to his spot with the team, in a contract year, who blew up his whole season last year by trying to dunk on the veteran in training camp — and ripping his thumb ligament.

You think somehow Brendan’s gonna play nice and teach him how to steal his playtime, contract, livelihood? IN a year when he finally has been getting a piece of the respect he deserves?

Stop it. Way too pollyanna of a worldview. Brendan’s competitiveness, even in petty griping ways, is part of what makes him a good player, part of what drives him to breakdown tape on opponents etc. If he lacks phenomenal athleticism, he’ll still try to get the edge in smarts, etc. But there’s always going to be a bit of acid for the guy whom he sees most often in practice.

And this year? The common knowledge on Brendan is what a stingy miserly cat he is with his money. I read where people will commonly meet him flying Coach to save a dollar, or how in the past he’d sock away his per diem, buying the cheapest whatever. You think he’s going to allow a punk kid to waltz away with his minutes in a contract year? For what?

BWood wants to test the open market, so Ernie can’t lock him up early this time. Defensive lynchpin centers are a key piece on any championship squad, he’ll receive significant offers — I’m most concerned about whatever Pat Riley might offer, all else being even who wouldn’t opt for Florida (beaches, easy living, and most key in Brendan’s case: no income tax…). Fair enough, we have his Bird rights, can exceed anyone else, give longterm security, and then eventually let him be the coach on the floor, once he has the security of a locked-up longterm deal, ask him to tutor youngsters with more spunk than sense, maybe eventually etc phase him into a bench role when he retires or whatever.

But don’t insult the man’s intelligence by expecting him to simply give away his job in a contract year. Of all the players on the squad Brendan is the one least likely to be seduced by the Team concept. No way he’s giving back the ten milly that Gil did. Loyalty is great, important, etc, but for Brendan, be certain, he’s always aware that this is a business. And that’s something he takes very personally.

by doclinkin on Oct 1, 2009 9:20 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

To add ...

Maybe Brendan realized that Eddie’s “tough love” actually made him a better player.

I mean, he did say he would be willing to play with Jordan in Philly after all … then again, that could be all about the money.

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by Kyle Weidie on Oct 1, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

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