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14 players in a new system: Nick Young

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He'll never admit it, but Nick Young had to have felt pretty crappy the day the Wizards traded for Mike Miller and Randy Foye.  Young had just been through a year where his playing time went up and down like a yo-yo.  His commitment to anything other than scoring was questioned, as was his seriousness about the game.  He had his moments and did ultimately have a better year than he did as a rookie, but he still seemed like trade bait after Foye and Miller were brought in.

Of course, that was then.  Now, after an outstanding summer, Young has seemingly given himself another chance to earn minutes.  He's worked extensively with Sam Cassell and others on his catch-and-shoot game, his defense and his ball-handling, and it showed in Summer League, when he averaged nearly 24 points a game in the Wizards' five games.   Flip Saunders singled him out at his preseason press conference, and he was one of the most impressive players in the team's scrimmage last night. 

But has Young climbed the latter enough to get significant playing time?  Make the jump to discuss.

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Why he might play: Nick has prototypical shooting guard size and skills.  He has shown remarkable improvement in his ability to come off screens and shoot, and his size and length make him an ideal fit defensively if he displays the proper commitment to that end.  Him starting would also simplify the rotation -- it would make Foye the primary backup at the 1 and 2, Miller the primary backup at the 2 and 3 and shove DeShawn Stevenson to the bench.

Why he might not play: Nick does shoot a lot, and that might not be a good thing when playing with the Big 3.  His skills seem ideal as an instant offense guy off the bench, but that was also what Foye was brought in to do.  Young still hasn't proven he's a capable enough defender to be a stopper, which is also what a shooting guard playing next to Gilbert Arenas needs to be.

My best guess: Young has made a ton of progress, much more than I expected, and put himself in a better position than I could have imagined to get playing time.  That said, I still think he has an uphill battle to climb.  One thing that Flip has stressed is that he loves multi-dimensional players.  Foye is multi-dimensional in terms of what positions he can play, and Miller and Dominic McGuire are multi-dimensional in their skills.  Young is pretty one-dimensional in his position and pretty one-dimensional in his skills at this point, so I'd have to think that's a strike against him.

I think he's basically battling DeShawn Stevenson and Dominic McGuire, with the two losers falling out of the rotation.  Young is a better player than both of those guys, but he doesn't bring the skills needed to blend with the Big 3 (namely, defense) as much as those two.  Therefore, it comes down to how he performs defensively.  If he makes enough improvements there, Flip will have no choice but to start him in the 20-25 MPG off guard role.

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lovely article

I really hope to see Young improve on defense and I’m really excited to see Blatche…he looked bulked up in the pics I saw.

by DaGribb on Sep 30, 2009 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Speaking of bulked up

Does Young look bigger this year?

Not just in the photo above, but in the videos of training camp, Nick looks like he’s put on some muscle; looking less like the skinny kid from USC and more like a big scoring guard in the NBA (ala: Joe Johnson)

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by Rook6980 on Sep 30, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Logjam?

I would love for Nick Young to earn 20-25 minutes this season. But I can’t help but think that of all the many guards on this team, he would have the most trade value because of his youth and flashes of truly special ability. So, if he plays a lot early in the year, I can’t discount the possibility of it being a trade showcase kind of situation as part of an effort to get another decent big for a playoff run.

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by little stevie colter on Sep 30, 2009 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

You've hit on my biggest question

Is it better for the Wizards if Nick Young does well and Foye or Miller make way in a trade with someone desperate cap room. Or does Nick Young get traded because as you said he might have the most trade value of anyone.

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by George Templeton on Oct 1, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could Nick Start?

I couldn’t help but notice several sources mentioning that Nick stood out in practice yesterday.

For the evening scrimmages, he was on Gil’s team, coming off screens, no dribbling, and hitting Js. It made me salivate at the thought of Nick starting alongside Gil, because I’ll admit, I love Nick.

Lee on the scrimmages w/ video highlight.

My swag was phenomenal.

by se7en on Sep 30, 2009 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Blatche thinks so. :)

Love today’s article on Young and Blatche.

My swag was phenomenal.

by se7en on Sep 30, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Starting SG

I think the ideal situation is for Nick to play well enough, especially on defense, to win the starting SG spot. We’ll see if it happens, but I am hopeful.

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by mamemimo on Sep 30, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

YES

YES YES YES YES YES. Our team is so ridiculously deep this year. It’s the first time ever I’m glad I’m not doing minute distro.

...one of those guys who reads all the time but barely comments

by Juice over Whine on Sep 30, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Starting?

We’ll see … I still must wonder if Young’s scoring punch will better serve the team coming off the bench.

Sure, we’ll have scorers on the bench anyway, but not all of them can create for themselves like Young can.

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by Kyle Weidie on Sep 30, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

But now that there's Foye and even Miller

That skill doesn’t matter as much. Flip’s basically drilling away Young’s create off the dribble instinct.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Sep 30, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still like him coming off the bench.

I always liked the idea of starting a defensive player at that position to set the tone for the game. Even if the backup played equal or even more minutes.

by MR on Sep 30, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes ..

But Nick is better at manufacturing points than either of those two.

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by Kyle Weidie on Sep 30, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really

Foye’s a significantly better passer than Nick, so he can get points for himself and for others, while Miller posted some pretty kickass TS%s despite using a ton of possessions on some terrible Memphis teams.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Sep 30, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Besides

Miller has already said he’ll come off the bench. .. so has Foye ….

But Young has said things that indicate he expects to be given a shot to start (ie: “I got game too”, etc…)…

What happens when Young out plays Foye and Miller in Training Camp, and Exhibition games, and is relegated to the bench… How does Young react? What does that tell your other young players? How does McGee react to seeing how hard Young worked, only to sit the bench?

Hopefully, Training Camp and Exhibition games will work that all out – there will be a clear winner – and Flip will give the job to that player – regardless of number of years in the league.

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by Rook6980 on Sep 30, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

So the idea is

the whiney guy gets the start so he doesn’t react badly?

I’m pretty sure that’s not what you really meant. I mean, they all seem to have worked pretty hard. How did McGee react to seeing Dee Brown cut after HE worked so hard?

by MR on Oct 1, 2009 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

At being able to break down a defender one-on-one

And perhaps get a bucket when needed … or manufacture points as a single player …. Young is by far better than Miller and is a fair bit better than Foye (i.e., Randy getting all those shots blocked in the paint) … that’s all I’m saying.

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by Kyle Weidie on Oct 1, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I'm saying I disagree

Because he doesn’t actually make a lot of the shots he creates like that. Young doesn’t even get to the paint.

His one-on-one ability is pretty damn overrated, which is why it’s good he’s not doing that stuff anymore.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 1, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

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