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The two words I didn't read from Antawn Jamison

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So by now you've probably read about how Antawn Jamison is talking a lot about the C word.  In case you haven't, he are some of the relevant quotes.

"I've been around here for six years and championship talk wasn't a norm around our locker room. That's all we're talking about now," Jamsion said, with less than two weeks remaining before training camp. "If we stay healthy, I think we can compete with the upper echelon of the NBA." 

"I'm not afraid to say it all. If we come up short, I mean, it's going to be sad," Jamison said. "I don't plan on accepting winning 40-something games, making it to the playoffs. weve already accomplished that. There's only one thing we have left to accomplish and that's contending for a championship. If that's not the mindset of this organization and my coaching staff and my players, then I don't need to be here.

"If it's not possible, then there's no need for me to be here at all," he said. "That's one the reasons that I signed here ... Last year, put the stamp on a lot of things. Because that was tough. But I can't accept not being able to accomplish the most important thing --what we're trying to do is win a championship. I believe we have what it takes. If it don't get done. it doesn't get done. I'm not going to waste my time, putting on a smile and just playing hard. I think we all deserve the opportunity and I'm happy."

Jamison's passion is great.  It sounds so elementary, but you want your top players to be the guys shooting high and saying how they're going to put in everything they have to reach a team goal.  And yes, talking championship is a good thing.  Why else do you play?

But missing in Jamison's proclamations are two words we need to hear more from him as a captain: defense and sacrifice.  Without improved defensive performance, this team is going nowhere, and without talk of the top guns sacrificing their shots and their offense, this team won't get the most out of its improved depth.  As a team leader, Jamison should be setting that tone publicly.  Instead, he's gone back to his fluffy "big proclamations" talk.  He can say all he wants about how the C word is a new thing around this team, but big talk from the team's captains is hardly new.

It also helps that those two terms are two of his biggest shortcomings as a player and two areas where he himself might need to see some progression in order to get the Wizards to the next level.  For himself and for the team, it pays to be talking about them.

Again, it's hard to begrudge a guy for talking team goals like Jamison does, but there are times where he should be channeling his passion into something with a little more substance.

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I just assumed

that the mention of playing the right way was intended to cover both of those things.

by bwoodsxyz on Sep 16, 2009 9:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the 'defense' talk will increase

Once training camp comes around and everyone wonders how it will be accomplished.

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by Truth About It on Sep 16, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not if the team's leaders aren't fully and completely committed to it

We read in Mike Jones’s great pieces in the Washington Times Gilbert’s quotes about his rehab and getting healthy, and you can see how committed Gilbert is to those goals. When have we ever heard from Gilbert, Jamsion and Butler comments expressing a burning desire to excel on defense? Have any of them ever said anything suggesting that they want to be one of the best defenders in the league? That they want the Wizards to shut teams down? Instead we here things like, “We just need to make more stops down the stretch,” and the following classic quote from Jamison (I couldn’t find the exact quote, so this is paraphrased, but I am positive he said this a couple training camps ago), which sums up his entire approach to defense, and by virtue of him being a team leader, perhaps the team’s approach: “We don’t need to be the best defense in the league. If we are middle of the pack, that will be a big improvement, and with our offense, will be enough.” Wow, what inspiring words.

Championship talk is great, but Jamison and Butler seem to think that if the team is healthy, it automatically becomes a championship contender. Fresh off of a 19-63 season. The season in which Caron told everyone with a microphone or notepad in January that he was an all-star despite his team having just a handful of wins. They don’t seem to get it.

Now, maybe what they need to grow into a champsionship team is for the team to be healthy all season, win 50 games and get bounced in the second round. Then, next summer, there won’t be any convenient excuses about health or this or that, and they will be able to see themselves for what they are and aren’t. Maybe it’s too much to ask Jamison and Butler, after a season of carrying a bad, injury-wracked team, to look inside themselves and see their own flaws and weaknesses, and see that they were PART of a 19 win team, not just observers or victims, when there are too many convenient excuses surrounding them that allow them to avoid that painful self-analysis. Maybe only failure when the team is at 100% will lead to that kind of growth.

by disgrunted on Sep 16, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C'mon

Defense is the biggest shadow hanging over the team (ok, maybe second to health), and everyone knows it.

I really could care less about them saying it in some newspaper … as long as it’s talked about from the top (Flip Saunders), and down … which I will guarantee happens at training camp/media day.

I mean, don’t you think Jamison/Butler have heard the time tested adage that defense wins championships?

My point it, we shouldn’t get into an uproar/disgruntled about this now … at least wait until the defense is sucking in actual games.

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by Truth About It on Sep 16, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess I found a way then

Have anything more substantial to add? I’m willing to listen (being 100% serious there).

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Sep 16, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He also doesn't discuss

passing, shooting, dribbling, rebounding…but I assume he’s going to do all those things.

Point is he’s just talking about generic generalities. I think it’s a bit picky to get on him for not singling out specifics in this context. Like the JVM quotes earlier in the summer. I think you are getting worked up about nothing.

by MR on Sep 16, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't get worked up over the JVM quotes

I also think you look at the team captain’s interviews more critically than one of its youngsters.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Sep 16, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t mean you in particular got worked up over the JVM quotes, but rather that it’s a similar kind of making more over a situation than there should be.

You can look at his interview critically, but since he never brought up any specifics I just don’t think it’s useful to bemoan what he didn’t talk about. If he went on and on about the offense without mentioning D I think I would share your concern.

by MR on Sep 16, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“He also doesn’t discuss passing, shooting, dribbling, rebounding…but I assume he’s going to do all those things.”

Well, maybe not so much the passing. Rimshot!!

You are right that we shouldn’t single him out for not touching on all necessary specifics in this one context. This was an interview with Michael Lee, not the Gettysburg Address.

But I think the broader point still stands. If the Wizards are to have real Championship aspirations, they will need to have real commitment to defense to make those aspirations anything close to a reality. And we’ve never seen or heard Jamison have a full commitment to defense.

by disgrunted on Sep 16, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe i'll regret this

but i just want the team to do what it does well. if we win 50 games and make the second round of the playoffs and it’s entertaining, i’ll be pretty darn happy. if we somehow surprise, either by our offense being absolutely incredible (or by shockingly becoming respectable on defense) and make the nba finals, i’d be absolutely ecstatic.

maybe next year i’ll start groaning that the team isn’t good enough to win the title, but for now i just want to see our team stay healthy for a year and find out what it does. i think it’ll be a fun ride.

as for AJ talking about championships, he did that when we signed him before last season. we won 19 games last year. i’m glad the team is coming together and believing in themselves (they should), but i tend to tune out AJ talking about championships. if mike miller and brendan haywood start talking about winning a title this year, i might start to think the team really believes it can.

by DarrellWalkerFan on Sep 16, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jamison is all for sacrifice . . .

As long as someone else on the team is doing it.

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Sep 17, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm a little surprised

his “if we’re not competing for a championship then I don’t need to be here” comments aren’t getting more notice. He’s probably right, but…he’s going to start that up now?

Ridiculous Upside, where developing talent and winning are not mutually exclusive.

by Jon L on Sep 18, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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