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Competition Discussion: Cleveland Cavaliers

(Previously: Atlanta, Boston, Charlotte, Chicago).

The season is still a ways away, but most of the rosters are set, barring the requisite Michael Jordan comeback rumor (just kidding, but only a little).  We have an idea where our team stands, but we can't really know unless we discuss everyone else.  In that spirit, I'm going to throw up a "competition discussion" thread for each of the other 29 teams over the next couple months or so.  We'll go in alphabetical order from A to Z.  Today's team: Cleveland.  Jump to the comments to discuss the LeBrons and make a prediction on their record.

 


Last year's record: 66-16 (Pythagorean record: 65-17)

Playoffs: Beat Detroit 4-0 in first round, beat Atlanta 4-0 in second round, lost to Orlando 4-2 in Eastern Conference Finals.

Offensive Rating: 112.4 (4th)

Defensive Rating: 102.4 (3rd)

Pace: 88.7 possessions/game (25th)

In: Shaquille O'Neal, Anthony Parker, Jamario Moon, Leon Powe, Danny Green
Out: Wally Sczcerbiak, Joe Smith, Sasha Pavlovic, Ben Wallace, Tarence Kinsey, Lorenzen Wright

Projected starting lineup: Mo Williams, Delonte West, LeBron James, Anderson Varejao, Shaquille O'Neal

Key themes:

  • How will the team be affected by arguably the most highly-anticipated walk year in NBA history?
  • It wasn't a very good end of the season for LeBron James, but otherwise, he was incredible last year.  What does he do for an encore?
  • How will the trade for Shaquille O'Neal affect on-court and off-court chemistry? 
  • Who starts?
  • How will the offense perform now that offensive guru John Kuester is coaching the Detroit Pistons?  Is Mike Brown really a good enough coach for this team after Stan Van Gundy significantly outcoached him in the playoffs?
  • Mo Williams was very good during the regular season and absolutely dreadful in the playoffs.  Can he turn his postseason performance around this time around?
  • Did the moves to bring in Anthony Parker, Shaq and Jamario Moon help Cleveland match up better with Orlando, their kryptonite last year?  Did those same moves possibly hinder Cleveland's ability to match up with a healthy Boston Celtics squad?
  • How much does Zydrunas Ilgauskas have left?  When will Leon Powe be able to help them this season?

Star-divide

Alright folks, throw aside your hatred of everything Cleveland and try to think as objectively as possible.

Done.  Okay.  I know it's tough, but we have to do it.

Last year, the Cleveland Cavaliers won 66 games, easily the best in the NBA.  Their Pythagorean record of 65-17 was also the best in the NBA.  They did this despite injuries to two key starters -- Delonte West and Zydrunas Ilgauskas -- during the season, which kept them out of 18 and 17 games, respectively.  The Cavs lost just two home games, the second of which occurred on the last day of the season when they rested their key players. 

Only two teams came close to matching up well with Cleveland last season.  One was the Lakers, who beat them twice during the regular season.  The other was Orlando, who just so happened to play them in the Eastern Conference Finals.  Those two teams were not necessarily better overall than the Cavs; they just posed difficult matchup problems for them.  As we all know, in the playoffs, it's all about matchups, so even though Cleveland was the better team, Orlando was the one that went to the Finals.

Now, consider the following altercations to Cleveland's playing rotation from last year.

  • Ben Wallace has been replaced by Shaquille O'Neal
  • Wally Szczerbiak has been replaced by Anthony Parker
  • Sasha Pavlovic has been replaced by Jamario Moon
  • Joe Smith has been replaced by an eventually healthy Leon Powe

It's hard to argue that all four of those changes are not upgrades.  Even if Shaq is old and whiney, he's still way, way better than a washed-up Ben Wallace.  Same with Parker and Moon -- they were poor as starting wings in Toronto, but as reserve guys, they significantly outperform Szczcerbiak and Pavlovic.  Don't sleep on Powe either; his knee injuries will keep him out for a while, but when he's played, he's been tremendously productive.  

Mike Brown has so many possible lineup combination to choose from, it's scary.  For example, last year, one of the keys to Cleveland's success was putting Mo Williams and Delonte West together in the backcourt.  Both could make plays on their own, so it took some of the load off LeBron and opened up their offense.  However, against Orlando, their lack of size on defense really hurt the Cavs.  West is a great defender, but he was too small to do anything against Hedo Turkoglu.  The addition of Parker, however, allows the Cavs to match up with bigger wing players that give West trouble because of their size.

Want another example?  Anderson Varejao was a huge key to Cleveland's success last year because of his annoying style, but he had no chance against Rashard Lewis in the playoffs.  The addition of Moon, however, allows Cleveland the flexibility to guard perimeter-oriented power forwards.  Moon's an excellent defender and can play the small forward on offense in smaller lineups. 

Then, there's Shaq.  At this point in his career, Shaq brings a lot of negatives to the table.  The veterans in Phoenix were not thrilled with his off-court demeanor in the locker room, both because he was a jokester and because he was such a dominating ego-driven presence.  On the court, he can still score if he gets the ball in the post often, but struggles to play off others and is slow guarding screen and roll on defense.  However, it became clear in the Orlando series that Ilgauskas was too worn down and slow to stop Dwight Howard.  Bringing Shaq aboard will give Z more rest and enable Cleveland to match up better with bigger post options.

Those are all reasons for Cleveland to be even better than last year.  Why, then, do I have them winning fewer games?

It comes down to coaching.  Mike Brown won Coach of the Year last year, but the award might as well have gone to former lead assistant coach John Kuestner.  The biggest reason Cleveland improved so significantly was because their formerly-stagnant offense improved significantly, jumping to fourth in the league (and they were higher most of the year).  For the first time, Cleveland was running sets that took advantage of all their players rather than just LeBron.  That was all Kuestner's doing, not Brown's. 

Now, Kuestner's gone, and he could threaten to take Cleveland's offensive improvement with him.  Even in the early rounds of the playoffs, before the Orlando series, the Cavaliers' offense was bogging back down into LeBron and four statues.  The only reason it didn't cost them was because Detroit sucked and Atlanta was too banged-up to compete.  With so many new faces to integrate, the offense bogging down again is a very real possibility. 

That will then leave us with the Brown of previous years; the guy who is an unbelievable defensive coach, but not a very good in-game coach.  He was badly outcoached against the Magic, and you have to wonder how he'll be able to handle all the new faces.  What happens when the LeBron offense returns and Shaq starts complaining about getting his touches?  What happens if Brown doesn't delegate perimeter minutes between Williams, West, Parker, Moon and Daniel Gibson effectively?  These are real possibilities and Brown does not inspire a ton of confidence. 

I still think Cleveland has too much talent to fall off considerably.  They will again be the best team in the East in the regular season -- Orlando has even bigger adjustment questions and Boston will likely take it easy during the regular season to preserve energy for the playoffs.  But I can't help but think that last year was Cleveland's best chance to win a ring.  Injuries beset the other three contenders (Lakers with Bynum, Celtics with KG and Magic with Jameer Nelson), and they still couldn't win.  The road isn't going to get any easier in the playoffs.

(Oh, and I think LeBron's staying no matter what.  Just throwing that out there).

Mike's prediction: 63-19, first in the central, first in the East

Team Mike Prada JakeTheSnake Truth About It Rook6980 bwoodsxyz
Atlanta 47-35 44-38 45-37 45-37 45-37
Boston 57-25 55-27 54-28 44-38 56-26
Charlotte 32-50 32-50 29-53 34-38 37-45
Chicago 39-43 40-42 42-40 40-42 44-38
Cleveland 63-19 60-22

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I really, really, really hate the Cavaliers.......



In my comments about Boston, I noted that one of the three top teams in the East (Boston, Cleveland or Orlando) would have injury and/or new player integration issues this year.

Upon reflection, and due solely to the advanced age of their roster, I settled on Boston as the team that I think will implode this year; but I really, really, really want it to be Cleveland; and there are some question marks surrounding the Cavaliers for this year.

Some national writers have questioned the willingness of Shaq to play second fiddle to Lebron. Will it work? Can he adjust? Will he clog the lane? How do you distribute the minutes between Shaq, Ilgauskas, and Varejao? Can Mo Williams, Anthony Parker, Daniel Gibson and Delonte West provide enough perimeter scoring? Will the Cavaliers miss Big Ben Wallace on Offense and Wally Szczerbiak on Defense? (Just making sure you’re still paying attention)

They hit a losing streak, Shaq to opens that cavernous hole in the front of his face and starts demanding the ball – LOUDLY. The locker room becomes divided. Roles are questioned. Mike Brown is not a very good coach – so he cannot hold things together………….. the Cavaliers fall apart, and LeBron jumps ship for Chicago, New York or NJ in 2010.

But then my dream ends…. It’s just too much to hope for. I think it will work; because, after all, Cleveland has LeBron James – and he’s the best player in the League. (ugh….gak.. I really, really, really hated saying that)

Gone from last year’s squad are Wally Szczerbiak, Sasha Pavlovic, Ben Wallace and Tarence Kinsey; replaced by Jamario Moon, Shaquille O’Neal, Anthony Parker and Leon Powe. On paper, they’re a better (and deeper) team; but let’s face it, without LeBron this is a Lottery team. As long as Cleveland has LeBron James, they’ll be the team to beat in the East – and no amount of wishful thinking will change that. (darn it…)

Shaq probably has one more good year left, and should play in 70-75 games; although he may have to make several trips back to the “Fuente de la Juventud” in Phoenix (or whatever magical artifact that helped him to get through 75 games last year). Jamario Moon, a strong perimeter defender, could potentially play WITH James in smallball sets (He’s bad enough at SF, but LeBron at PF is pretty scary). Anthony Parker is a great pick up for Cleveland, and gives them another shooter. Parker also adds size at the SG position and is a very good defender. It wouldn’t surprise me if he is the starting SG, taking the job away from an undersized and defensively challenged Delonte West. Powe, when healthy, provides depth and another lengthy athletic player to throw at perimeter oriented teams. With the acquisition of Shaq, and the resigning of Varejao, the Cavaliers can throw multiple big men at teams like Orlando and the Lakers – Shaq, Varejao, Ilgauskas, Powe, JJ Hickson (is he still playing?), etc.

These moves (obtaining Shaq, Parker, Powe and Moon) seem like a direct reaction to Cleveland’s loss in the Playoffs to Orlando. They got Shaq to counter Dwight Howard. Then they picked up Moon (6’8"), Powe (6’9") and Parker (6’6") to give them the length, athleticism and good perimeter defenders to match up with Vince Carter (6’6"), Mickael Pietrus (6’6") and Rashard Lewis (6’10").

Rook’s prediction: 64-18 , first in the Central, first in the East, best record in the League. And I really, really, really hate to say it, but I think this year, the NBA will get their dream match up. I predict LeBron walks over the the Wizards in the 2nd Round, outplays Kobe in the Finals, and Shaq gets his 5th ring….

Man, I really, really, really hate the Cavaliers…….

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by Rook6980 on Sep 12, 2009 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

60-22

I agree that they upgraded from last year, but I just can’t justify them winning more than sixty games this year. Especially after a year where they won so many games and fell short, I could see them becoming complacent at times during the regular season while they wait for the chance to redeem themselves in the post-season.

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by Jake Whitacre on Sep 13, 2009 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

60+ but

We will beat them in the playoffs and Lebron will leave the cavs in free agency. Thus the wizards have the final say in the rivalry.

by forthepeople on Sep 13, 2009 2:00 AM EDT reply actions  

did they focus too much on orlando?

they still might be too old and slow to match up with orlando even. anthony parker is 34 years old. how good will he be?

i especially wonder whether the wiz can hang with the cavs this year. the cavs frontcourt is so big: lebron, varejao, shaq, Z, powe versus caron, AJ, BTH, oberto, AB/JM. they have so much more size than the wiz. will we be able to get a defensive rebound? and mo williams used to kill us even when he was on crappy milwaukee teams.

i could see the cavs having some injury/old age issues this year. but i think it’ll be an uphill climb for the wiz, unless BTH and mcgee suddenly become dominating inside presences.

i’m going to root for this not to work for the cavs. i’d like to see lebron play on a team with a bunch of offensive talent and young athletic bigs. it’d be more fun to see him play in the open court. i’m tired of this plodding, half-court defensive squad. i’ll be rooting hard for the wiz to run and gun them out of the building.

by DarrellWalkerFan on Sep 13, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Only thing left is the championship

So they probably won’t focus as much on running up a gaudy record. Still, this is Lebron’s team now, through and through, and he’s a guy that works hard all the time. I’m guessing they’ll get 66 wins again. The only problem with this team’s make-up is that Lebron still doesn’t have a sidekick. Mo tried, but couldn’t quite fill the role (does he remind anyone else of Mike James in his career year?) In the playoffs, Brown will finally convince ownership to give him a long-overdue pink slip.

by steadyhand on Sep 13, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

61-21

I’m assuming Powe isn’t back for any meaningful amount of the year, at least not back at pre-injury level. If he is….I don’t want to think about it.

by bwoodsxyz on Sep 14, 2009 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

62 wins

And while you can argue that the Cavs have made upgrades there problem is philosophical. Playing so slowly was there problem and will only get worse. They will be the number one seed in the East again but they are fundamentally flawed and will get beaten in Eastern playoffs (hopefully by the Wizards in the conference finals!)

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by George Templeton on Sep 17, 2009 10:11 AM EDT reply actions  

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