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Pollin': Will Antawn Jamison's Rebounding Numbers...Rebound?

Last week, half of you said that Brendan Haywood's summer media blitz won't impact his contract negotiations next summer.  Of the remaining half, 40% of you thought that it would help him at the negotiating table next season.

This week, we're going to take a look at Antawn Jamison and his work on the glass.  In 2007-08, Jamison put up the best rebounding numbers of his career, averaging 10.2 rebounds per game and 9.5 rebounds per 36 minutes.  The first average was the highest of his career and the second was only eclipsed by his rookie season when he averaged 10.2 rebounds per 36.  It's not often that you see a 31 year old put up career rebounding numbers, but Jamison doesn't exactly fit the mold for your average power forward anyway.  Part of the credit for Jamison's career year belongs to Brendan Haywood, who clogged the lane and allowed Jamison to get up for rebounds more easily, but Jamison deserves credit as well.  Going into a contract year, Jamison was out to prove that he could clean the glass while still being able to exploit defenses with his outside shot.

After signing a 4 year, $50 million extension that off-season, Jamison's rebounding numbers fell off in 2008-09.  He saw his rebounds per game drop by 1.3 and his rebounds per 36 drop by 1.1.  Classic case of a contract year sellout?  Not exactly.  One has to consider that Brendan Haywood wasn't in the lineup most of the season, unlike the year before when he played the most minutes of his career.  One of the great things that Brendan does is boxing out the opposition to allow other teammates to snag the board and no one took greater advantage of this than Jamison.  Without a widebody to clog the lane and box out the opposition, Jamison had to do more work to secure the board, which clearly hurt his numbers last year.

But before you go and attribute all of Jamison's career year to Brendan Haywood, consider this: Antawn averaged his third highest totals in rebounds per game and per 36 last season at the age of 32, even without the big man.  The only two years he had higher totals were his rookie year and 2007-08.  So while Brendan's presence does help Jamison's numbers, he clearly wasn't the only one responsible for Jamison's resurgence last season.  That provides some hope that he can return to his 07-08 form with Haywood returning to the lineup.

Jamison's rebounding numbers in the light of his age are certainly unusual, but we all know that he can't keep increasing his rebounding output as he continues to age.  He turned 33 in June and though many great players have still been able to rebound well at his age and older, everyone's clock is different.  Is this the year that he starts his slide downhill, or will Jamison continue to buck the trend?  The choice is yours.

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How will Antawn Jamison do rebounding (per 36 minutes) this year?
Better than he did in his career year of 2007-08
15 votes
Better than last year, but not as good as 2007-08
108 votes
Worse than either of those years
29 votes

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I said worse than last year and this year

Because he’ll be playing more on the perimeter this year as Flip tries to go with more big lineups.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Sep 1, 2009 5:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Same

Also, I think he’ll play less minutes overall. Also, the clock is ticking on him. A few nagging injuries would not surprise me.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Sep 1, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Also, Brendan might look to pad his rebounding totals a bit in a contract year. Mike Miller is an amazing rebounder for a perimeter player and will take some rebounds away. Gil is also a good rebounder for his position. Antawn will get fewer, but the important thing is that overall, the team will be better off in the rebounding department.

by yop32 on Sep 1, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think this is the key here

And it also explains some of last year’s drop. Dominic McGuire and Javaris Crittenton both played decent minutes, plus Caron Butler played in more games (I think), which probably lead to fewer available rebounds for AJ. Not to mention that opposing teams probably made more shots last year. Also, I think that rebounding is tied to intensity, and Jamison really didn’t have as much motivation to get fired up last year, especially when you compare the team’s situation to the one we were in in 2008 with him and Caron having to carry the team and compete for a playoff spot.

by pantslessyoda1 on Sep 1, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree with the conclusion, but not the reason

You really think that if Flip goes bigger it will push Jamison further toward the perimeter? On offense, it would be hard to push him more toward the perimeter than he already plays. On defense, I just don’t see how that makes sense. He just isn’t quick enough for man, and I don’t see why in a zone you’d want to use him outside rather than Miller/Butler/McGuire. And who would be at the 4/5 while Jamison is at the 3? Any combo I can think of will need help on the boards.

by bwoodsxyz on Sep 2, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think 2006/07 is a good model

On that team, Jamison leaked out more in transition than he did grabbing rebounds, and his rebounding suffered. I suspect Flip will use Antawn more like that and pair him with either Blatche, McGee or Oberto a bit more often.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Sep 2, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Based on what?

Leaking out in transition at a higher rate doesn’t need to cost anything in terms of defensive rebounding, if the leak-out opportunities are limited to those where the player recognizes they wouldn’t be in a position to contest or meaningfully box out anyway.

In 06/07, 73% of his attempts were Js, vs 75% the prior year, and his rebound rate was 12.1% down from 13.5% the prior year. At that point, it was his second best rebounding rate of his career.

by bwoodsxyz on Sep 2, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said better than last, worse than 07-08

but really, I think he’ll be right about on par with last year. Maybe a little better, maybe a little worse. But that wasn’t an option. You can’t expect a guy to keep producing career highs after the age of 30, but AJ is a hard worker, takes his game seriously, and it should be a little while before we see any drop off from him.

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by kseandoyle on Sep 1, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I also said better than last worse that 07-08

I don’t know why but I could see him being in the right place a lot to grab long rebounds.

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Sep 3, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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