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Trade Idea - Subtle Move towards Contention

The Trade:

Wizards Acquire --- James Posey SF ($6.032mil)

Hornets Acquire --- Dominic McGuire SG/SF/PF ($825k), Mike James PG ($6.467mil)

Hear me out after the jump...

 

 

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 Wizards Trade Motive:

  Whether or not Washington can truly compete for a title, the team is clearly in "win-now" mode.  We're over the luxury tax, have built around several aging stars, and sacrificed both picks this year to get immediate help (though the 2nd Rd Pick sale was a little less obvious to the cause).  This being the case, acquiring a true defensive stopper is important for any Championship Run (read '2nd Round Playoff Run').  This much is clear by simply looking at the recent history of NBA Champs.  Each of them carried a defensive stopper on the Wing who specialized in knocking down open 3-pointers on offense.  This is exactly the role James Posey fills.  In fact, he helped define this role with Boston in 2008 and Miami in 2006.  The others are Trevor Ariza ('09 Lakers), Bruce Bowen ('07 Spurs, '05 Spurs, '03 Spurs), and Tayshaun Prince ('04 Pistons).  Posey would not start as either Foye/Butler or Butler/Miller would start on the wings.  But Posey would garner plenty of playing time off the bench to help slow down the likes of Lebron James, Vince Carter, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Joe Johnson, Dwyane Wade, and hopefully Kobe for one playoff series (not to jump the gun or anything).  Dominic McGuire has somewhat of a cult following around here (I came close to buying a #5 jersey myself) but Posey's defensive prowess in itself obviates the need for Mcguire.  Once you add in Posey's far superior offensive contributions he becomes an obvious upgrade.  The only knock on this exchange is that McGuire can play multiple positions (which we all know had Saunder's salivating atavistically).  However, this fact is not as important when you realize that several other players can wear multiple hats as well (see:  Caron Butler (SG/SF), Gil (PG/SG), Foye (PG/SG), Mike Miller (SG/SF/PF), Jamison (SF/PF)).  This trade would also be a good use for the expiring contract of Mike James and as a byproduct, help to alleviate (albeit slightly) the logjam in the backcourt. 

  *In anticipation of the "what about the future salary implications of taking on 2 more years at $6.5mil each" argument against the Posey acquisition I have a few preemptive points.  First, we are very definitively in "win-now" mode so salary implications take a back seat to Championship aspirations.  Second, if this move were to prevent the retention of either Randy Foye or Mike Miller's services in 2010-'11 we already have the perfect succession plan.  His name is Nick Young.  And even if he's not good enough to start at SG a year from now he will surely be (read: already is) good enough to garner big minutes as a backup (assuming we could retain one of the two former Wolves). 

Hornets Trade Motive:

  This part is a little bit simpler.  The Hornets are not in cost-cutting mode by any means, but have traditionally been a low-budget franchise and reside in the smallest NBA market in the league.  This trade gives them a chance to get under the luxury tax for the summer of 2010 (when Peja will no doubt exercise his $14mil player option) by taking advantage of Mike James's expiring contract.  It also partially replaces Posey as the defensive presence with a young, versatile, athlete who can run the break and throw down Chris Paul alley-oops till the cows come home (...or Saints come marching?)  Recent draftee, Marcus Thornton, could pick up the shooting that would be lost in the exchange as well.  Finally, Mike James adds one more thing to this deal...as, you know...a real person, and not just an expiring contract.  The Hornets drafted Darren Collison to groom as a CP3 backup but if they happen to make a playoff run this year they won't likely want him on the floor that soon.  Mike James has plenty of experience and could be a nice bench spark for them too. 

 

Conclusion:

  This trade would immediately make the Wizards a better basketball team both offensively and defensively yet appeals to the Hornets fiscally and developmentally.  It's a classic short-term/long-term exchange that might just make a difference, however subtle, by increasing the Wizards odds of contending. 

Poll
Would you approve of a Dominic McGuire & Mike James for James Posey deal?
Yes, that would bolster our playoff run!
51 votes
No, keep the kid. Save the future cap room.
62 votes

113 votes | Poll has closed

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I see a couple of problems

1. New Orleans practically tripped over themselves to get rid of Mike James….. why would they want him back?
2. Mike James’ expiring contract may be worth much more than James Posey at the Trade Deadline
3. Why was Dominic McGuire included ? (the Mike James expiring contract should be enough by itself to get the deal done, if N.O. is looking to save salary)
4. Posey was not nearly as effective last year for N.O. as he was the year before with Boston – a sign of age?
5. Posey has injury issues… not the long term, out for the year kind, but he’s ALWAYS got something wrong (ankle, shoulder, knee, wrist) – just enough to curtail his minutes, or cause him to miss some games… but on the Wizards……………………………….. an ankle problem can turn into a year-long problem. (see Pecherov, Oleksiy), and a knee can cost a player two years (see Arenas, Gilbert).

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by Rook6980 on Aug 7, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They dont want Mike James back.

by tw10 on Aug 8, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Jake proposed this a while back.

James Posey’s contract is way too long for a guy that won’t really be good enough to push us into title contention.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Aug 7, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I voted no

I don’t see this improving us enough to justify getting rid of McGuire, who will be productive and cheap for most of his career.

Constant passenger of the Jason Campbell Bandwagon since 2007. Keep on driving, brother.

by kseandoyle on Aug 7, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

We’ve already got Deshawn Stevenson who, when healthy, is kind of a poor man’s James Posey. If we’re going to trade for a defensive stopper and risk having to pay the tax again next year, I’d rather just go all out and try to acquire Battier.

by pantslessyoda1 on Aug 7, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too expensive

This would destroy our cap situation next year. As it stands now, we’re already on pace to be $6-12M over the luxtax if we retain Haywood, Miller and Foye. Adding Posey would make us $12-18M over the luxtax. Basically, you are paying $12M a year over the next two years just to have Posey – who is only a marginal upgrade over Stevenson.

by nate33 on Aug 7, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Do you think Battier would help us all that much Mike?

I know he’s hugely underrated but how much of an impact could he really have on this team? Could he make us that much better defensively?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Aug 8, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think so

The guy makes Lebron, Kobe, Chris Paul (pretty much everyone who is the top player on his team) play worse when he guards them. High percentage shooters have to become high volume shooters just to get the points they’re used to. They make ill-advised passes to players who aren’t open or aren’t in a position to score. I don’t have the numbers, but I do know that the Rockets’ GM is a big advocate of sabermetrics, and because of the kinds of stats he’s got on Battier, we can never get the guy.

Constant passenger of the Jason Campbell Bandwagon since 2007. Keep on driving, brother.

by kseandoyle on Aug 9, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there was an article in the NYT by Michael Lewis

Here’s the link

Excellent article… but the gist of it is that Basketball tracks the wrong kind of Statistics (points, rebounds, assists, etc…) and that there are players (Shane Battier for instance) that deserve as much credit for their team’s success as some of the “All-Stars”…..

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by Rook6980 on Aug 9, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I've read that.

The more I think about it the more I like the idea of Battier. If anything, maybe he can inspire the whole team to take more pride in their defense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Aug 9, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

I’m all for getting rid of Mike James though.

by qthaballa on Aug 7, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

james's expiring contract has more value than this

especially if abe decides to dip a little bit more into the tax in a rush for a title in a sellers mentality market

james posey really doesn’t fill a need, i guess he;d be alright in case of injury but he definitely doesn’t qualify as the type of signifgicant upgrade we may be able to acquire for James’s expiring deal and spare parts at the deadline

by kingofthebench on Aug 8, 2009 1:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like the idea behind the trade

I’m all for making a trade that brings in a top defensive stopper on the wing … I just don’t think Posey is that man anymore — still a good defender, but not a stopper … more a team defender than a man-to-man defender also.

I wouldn’t make the trade. I think getting that Mike James contract off the books and gaining some wiggle room financially is more valuable.

by NBR on Aug 14, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Trade idea sucks

McGuire is a younger version of Posey and costs far less. Trade Mike James for maybe another big body to give fouls.

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

by GeoFly on Aug 21, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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