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Why the Wizards need an in-season trade to upgrade the frontcourt

Assuming Ernie Grunfeld is indeed tinkering from the healthy edition of the Eddie Jordan Wizards rather than Ed Tapscott's Palace of Pretty Crappy Play crew, we can probably agree that the squad had two big weaknesses.

  • A below-average shooting guard group
  • A third big man who can play big, rebound and defend

Weakness one was addressed already with the trade for Mike Miller and Randy Foye.  We can argue that perhaps there were better ways to go about solving weakness one, but the off guard position clearly looks like it's in better hands than before. 

However, weakness two remains a weakness.  We ended our last healthy season with inconsistent Andray Blatche and cerebral Darius Songaila as our backup big men.  We are all set to begin next season with ... inconsistent Andray Blatche and the even-more-cerebral Fabricio Oberto as our backup big men.  JaVale McGee is there too, but he still has a good deal of growth to do to become the type of reliable third big we need. 

So we haven't really upgraded our frontcourt.  We're hoping that Blatche and McGee develop enough and that Oberto holds off Father Time, but hoping for player development isn't going to get us in the Boston/Cleveland/Orlando category.  Blatche is what he is at this point, and while that can be an effective player, it's not the type of solid oak we need.  McGee could be that shot-in-the-arm type, but he'd have to grow a lot to be reliable.  Oberto's 34 and on a major downswing in his career.  As an insurance big, he's great, but if he is playing third-big minutes, we aren't going anywhere. 

Ernie Grunfeld has taken the wait and see approach with this weakness.  He didn't draft DeJuan Blair, he didn't pony up the cash to sign Antonio McDyess or Zaza Pachulia and he basically announced we're done making moves until the season starts.  I'm willing to accept Ernie waiting on this, if only because two contingency possibilities -- Blatche or McGee taking a step forward while we win; us sucking so we're not in contention for anything -- remain accounted for. 

But unless one of those things happen, the Wizards will need to make an in-season move in order to shore up this weakness and become a true contender.  Standing pat isn't going to work if we really want to win. 

Star-divide

To further illustrate the need for another competent big man, take a look at the big-man rotations for the final four remaining teams in the playoffs these past few years.

Team Starting PF Starting C Third Big
2009/10 Wizards (projected) Antawn Jamison Brendan Haywood Andray Blatche or JaVale McGee
2008/09 Lakers Pau Gasol Andrew Bynum Lamar Odom
2008/09 Magic Rashard Lewis Dwight Howard Marcin Gortat
2008/09 Cavaliers Anderson Varejao Zydrunas Ilgauskas Joe Smith
2008/09 Nuggets Kenyon Martin Nene Chris Anderson
2007/08 Celtics Kevin Garnett Kendrick Perkins PJ Brown/Leon Powe
2007/08 Lakers Lamar Odom Pau Gasol Ronny Turiaf
2007/08 Pistons Rasheed Wallace Antonio McDyess Jason Maxiell
2007/08 Spurs Tim Duncan Fabricio Oberto Kurt Thomas
2006/07 Spurs Tim Duncan Fabricio Oberto Francisco Elson
2006/07 Cavaliers Drew Gooden Zydrunas Ilgauskas Anderson Varejao
2006/07 Jazz Carlos Boozer Mehmet Okur Paul Millsap
2006/07 Pistons Rasheed Wallace Chris Webber Antonio McDyess

 

Just look at the third big column.  Most of those guys are battle-tested vets that also give above-average production.  They aren't just token no-mistake guys like Darius Songaila; they actually provide unique on-court production too, whether it's jump-shooting (McDyess, Smith), boxing out/post defense (Thomas, Turiaf, Brown, Varejao), inside scoring (Powe, Millsap) or offensive rebounding (Gortat, Maxiell).

I suppose you could make an argument that Blatche and McGee aren't too far off from a couple of those guys.  McGee is a Chris Anderson in training, while Blatche is certainly less flakey than the 2006/07 edition of Francisco Elson.  But the Wizards aren't competing against past playoff teams next year; they're competing against contenders who themselves have significantly improved. 

Team Starting PF Starting C Projected third big Other big men
Wizards Antawn Jamison Brendan Haywood Andray Blatche

Fabricio Oberto

JaVale McGee

Cavaliers Anderson Varejao Shaquille O'Neal Zydrunas Ilgauskas

Leon Powe

J.J. Hickson

Magic Rashard Lewis Dwight Howard Brandon Bass

Marcin Gortat

Adonal Foyle

Celtics Kevin Garnett Kendrick Perkins Rasheed Wallace

Glen Davis

Shelden Williams

Lakers Pau Gasol Andrew Bynum Lamar Odom Josh Powell
Spurs Tim Duncan Kurt Thomas Antonio McDyess

Matt Bonner

DeJuan Blair

 

To recap:

  • The Cavaliers can trot out Zydrunas Ilgauskas, who sported an 18 PER last year and was the team's second-best player for many years before last season, or Shaquille O'Neal, who is a first-ballot Hall of Famer, as their third big man.  They also have a dangerous low-post scorer in Leon Powe as insurance, provided his knee injury heals.
  • The Magic's top big man off the bench is either Marcin Gortat, who is a rising player that got a full MLE offer from Dallas to be its starting center, or Brandon Bass, who was the third big on Dallas last year and is a player on the rise in his own right. 
  • The Celtics just got Rasheed Wallace, who is getting older but remains an outstanding player when motivated, and bumped playoff hero Glen Davis down to the fourth big man spot.  Davis might be better than Blatche on his own.
  • The Lakers' third big man is arguably one of the top 50 players in the league right now.
  • The Spurs have added McDyess and Blair while retaining their second and third big men for most of last year to surrounded the best big man of his era.

And before you say the Wizards can beat those guys by going small, every one of those teams (except maybe San Antonio) listed above can do that too, now that Cleveland has Jamario Moon.  The Magic essentially start a 3/4 hybrid, the Cavaliers can play Moon with LeBron James at power forward, the Lakers can play Ron Artest at power forward and the Celtics can put a healthy Kevin Garnett on anybody.  They have rosters that can address pretty much any countermove one could make.

I don't mean to throw these names out to say we should mimic the contenders' style of play, but they drive home loud and clear that the Wizards can only become elite if they match the other contenders' frontcourts in terms of depth and reliability. 

The best way to ensure that weakness is solved is to make an in-season trade.  Otherwise, our only hopes are to:

  • Pray for the five zillionth season in a row that Blatche develops some game-to-game reliability,
  • Assume McGee will go from being possibly the league's rawest player to one of its most polished, or
  • Lead Oberto to a fountain of youth that will allow him to recapture his effectiveness and have a career year at age 34

I'd rather not have to rely on hopes when the playoffs roll around. 

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Eddy Curry!

He’s all yours. Really.

Posting and Toasting: "Say yo Oak, what's the dish tonight? A couple steaks on the grill and we season it right."

by Seth on Aug 29, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

No its not weird

I do too, and it’ll be awesome if it was for us because with a healthy, functional Curry we’d be even more of a problem.

by qthaballa on Aug 30, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

More seriously

Are the Jared Jeffries-for-Mike James rumors floating around New York at all appealing unto the Wiz faithful? Jeffries isn’t a 5 in any system other than D’Antoni’s, and he might not even be a four, but you never know.

Posting and Toasting: "Say yo Oak, what's the dish tonight? A couple steaks on the grill and we season it right."

by Seth on Aug 29, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I doubt we'd do it

While Jeffries would be more valuable to us than Mike James, we’re worried about the luxury tax right now, and we don’t really need any more wing depth. That said, he’d be an upgrade over Dominic McGuire and I really doubt Mike James will play next year, so it’s a possibility if Flip Saunders decides we desperately need a perimeter defense specialist. Another possibility is that we make a larger deal that would basically lead to a swap of expirers and Stevenson for Jeffries and other expirers, since that would allow the Knicks to spend 3 million more in 2010.

by pantslessyoda1 on Aug 29, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not so sure he'd be an upgrade over McGuire.

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by mamemimo on Aug 31, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

No way to Isiah's leavings

The Knicks have nothing of any value.

How about trading with the Rockets instead? With Yao and Mutumbo out, they could definitely use a lot more size. Blatche for one of their PF’s. I’d love to get Scola or Landry. Might even think about Hayes.

Or at the trade deadline, would Charlotte take Blatche and Mike James’ expiring contract for Diaw? They’re trying to shed salary obligations, and while Blatche is inconsistent, he’s definitely cost effective.

by yop32 on Aug 29, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

That would be perfect

I don’t think they want to lose any of their guys right now since they’re banking on Yao coming back healthy, but I would love to trade for Hayes, Landry, or Scola. All are perfect as third bigs or even as starters, plus they’re all on reasonable to great contracts, and I’d be fine with losing Blatche for any of them.

by pantslessyoda1 on Aug 29, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd trade anybody within reason to have D-Song back.

At least he had his moments of brilliance on the court without ever really making the team suffer.

by callmecostanza on Aug 29, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

This is #2 on my list of needs for the Wizards — and I think defensive ability is the single most important trait in whoever the main backup big is, because of the team’s weaknesses defensively, and that’s one of the main reason’s I’m uncomfortable with Blatche.

The number one need, in my view, is perimeter defense, namely a stopper on the wing.

by NBR on Aug 29, 2009 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd say it's the reverse

The best defenses are built inside-out, not outside-in (Orlando’s the best example). While a perimeter defense is great, good interior defense is far more important.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Aug 29, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

I can’t think of a single elite defense that didn’t have at the very least a great shotblocker and rebounder in the middle. This is kind of off-topic, but I think that, regardless of how much length and perimeter rebounding they acquire, Toronto won’t go anywhere as long as their starting center averages fewer than 8 rebounds per 40 minutes while playing next to a finesse-oriented power forward.

by pantslessyoda1 on Aug 29, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Houston Rockets without Yao Ming — they’ll play Scola who is 6-9 and not a shot blocker, and then Landry and Hayes who are 6-7 and 6-6 — they’re still an elite defense, and Shane Battier plus the rest of their perimeter defense is a major reason why.

Agreed on Bargnani holding back.

by NBR on Aug 30, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, although I think that Houston is almost the exception that proves the rule

Everybody on that team with the possible exception of Brooks is an above-average to good defender at their position. I think they’ll get a bit overwhelmed by really tall guys like Gasol and Garnett this year, but they’ll still surprise people. I think they actually still have an outside shot at the playoffs next year, even without TMac and Yao, just based on the strength of their role players.

by pantslessyoda1 on Aug 30, 2009 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you’re going to struggle to get a backup big man who’s good enough defensively, and capable of playing both big man positions, to make that large of a difference.

Looking across the league — Varejao + Odom — that’s about it.

It’s important the backup big can play both positions because Brendan Haywood is only capable of playing the center position. If you had two centers it would be hard to give them more than the 48 minutes at the five position. Likewise, Jamison is an out and out power forward who would struggle to play the five. So ideally you want someone who can sub in for both … because the only way that player makes that large a difference defensively is if he’s getting at least 27-30 minutes a night.

Alternative Option — Now if the option was to move Jamison and bring back a highly talented defensive power forward, I would have a lot of interest in that. Likely more so than bringing in a stopper on the wing. That new acquisition could have a major impact because he could play in the starting lineup and help cover some of the team’s largest remaining (no Antawn) defensive weaknesses.

by NBR on Aug 30, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

To summarize ...

I think the Wizards are better off going after a stopper on the wing who can play 30-35 minutes a night than going after a backup big man who’ll likely play 17-20 minutes a night. I think the stopper on the wing will be the one who makes the larger difference because there’s more minutes available, and because he’ll get to play alongside Arenas and Caron and lighten their load.

I think the team would be hard pressed to find a backup big with enough defensive quality to make the situation go the other way.

by NBR on Aug 30, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

DMac

Its looks like nick young is going to make a jump offensively. Maybe Dom can make that leap defensively. He started a ton of games last year so he’s already very familiar with the pace. In practice he will have to guard anyone from Gilbert Arenas to Caron Butler to Andray Blatche.
He has all the physical tools, 6-9 with a 6-10 wing span. Hes also a willing and able passer which is great for a team loaded with weapons. Can’t wait for this season to see some of this shake out.

by forthepeople on Aug 30, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he'll be ok, but we need someone who's elite

I look at Dominic as similar to Antoine Wright or Dahntay Jones – a decent defender who doesn’t get in the way, but guys like Kobe and Lebron and Wade are still going to have no trouble lighting them up. Battier would be perfect, Jeffries less so (although still an upgrade), and, if his contract were a bit more reasonable, Posey would be nice. Dominic needs to get a bit meaner, too, and more cerebral; you almost never see him do anything that looks dirty.

by pantslessyoda1 on Aug 30, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good Job with the Second List

I guess we gotta keep praying for Blatche. Although its just hard to see it happening now. He’s been the same player pretty much. I think Fabricio will surprise everybody and end up being a solid contributor.

by tw10 on Aug 29, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

PS-we really should have drafted Dajuan Blair

by tw10 on Aug 29, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

You mean THE Ronny Turiaf – that older, and more expensive version of DeJuan Blair?

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by Rook6980 on Aug 29, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey

I’d take anything for Mike James, especially Ronnie turiaf. But i was hoping we’d draft Blair. Oh well, Grunfeld isn’t DImitroff, so i shouldn’t hold him to that standard.

by qthaballa on Aug 30, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Salaries don't work

(Sorry, accidentally hit “post”)

Blatche + Mike James for Turiaf + Speedy Claxton does work, though. Swap expiring contracts to even out the salaries. Don Nelson loves oversized wannabe guards.

by yop32 on Aug 30, 2009 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice read

really good post and it puts into context that while we have improved, it wont be enough come playoff time for us to be a title contender.

However, the Wizards, as currently constructed, should be good enough to get to the playoffs. Once we get there, it’s all about matchups so I’m all in favour of Ernie’s wait and see approach to see what we really need before the trade deadline .

What might make for an interesting post – either now, or as the season progresses – is to see what bigs are available that (a) we could realistically afford and (b) would provide us with an effective counter to the bigs in your list above.

The only big that comes to my mind right now would be Camby, but I’m not sure whether we have what the Clips would want given he’s an expiring. I guess we’ll get a better list of who’s available as the season progresses once teams fall out of contention and start looking to either save $$ or re-tool for next season. That’s when James’, Miller’s expiring contracts become extra valuable, and/or Young as a barganing chip.

by sweet_as on Aug 30, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

What might make for an interesting post – either now, or as the season progresses – is to see what bigs are available that (a) we could realistically afford and (b) would provide us with an effective counter to the bigs in your list above.

Working on that as we speak. If you drop the affordability issue, there are definitely a few out there that I can think of.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Aug 30, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny thing is

When I started reading this post I thought we absolutely 100% need a big man trade, but after seeing the list, while I still think we need a frontcourt upgrade, I’m not as desperate. When I see the Brown/Turiaf/Smith/Anderson types in the column against Blatche/Oberto/McGee I don’t feel SO bad. To me if two of those three play as well as we can reasonably expect then we’ll be ok. But if two of those three underachieve or if two of the frontcourt players are injured then we’re in big trouble.

by MR on Aug 30, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

that was my inital reactionas well, but

then, as in Mike’s recap, this year’s group of 3rd big men has improved in the East with likes of Z, Sheed and Gortat. While I’m ok with the squad for the regular season, I think we’d get bashed in the playoffs

by sweet_as on Aug 30, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be

I certainly still think we need more depth and experience in the front court. If things fall right (20% chance?) we’ll be ok. I’ll be disappointed if we don’t have another big man move up our sleeves.

by MR on Aug 30, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is all way too preliminary

i’m confident blatche and javale will do well…. watch in a couple yrs we’re going to be dealing with the difficulty of trying to hold on to javale in free agency.

by rzawrecktah on Aug 31, 2009 6:22 AM EDT reply actions  

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