Today's trade idea: DeShawn Stevenson to Denver for Steven Hunter
This isn't my idea, it's actually one from a poster on the Wizards' Real GM Board.
PROS:
-Wizards swap Stevenson for a 2010 expiring contract and get their emergency fifth big
-Denver gets a replacement for Dahntay Jones, who just signed with Indiana
CONS:
-Stevenson makes more annually than Jones (though less in total when you factor in the four-year commitment Jones got from Indiana)
-It's not clear whether Hunter can actually play anymore, having played just 19 games in 2007/08 and none this year
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that wouldn't be bad
I could go for it. I don’t know how much help Hunter would actually be, but if we’re gonna have a lump of coal on the bench I’d rather it be a big man then a guard. Interesting too, isn’t Steven Hunter the reason Orlando gave us Haywood?
by CJHutch on Jul 9, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So then
are we all assuming that we’re getting Deshawn 08-09 back and not Deshawn 07-08? Because that guy could contribute to a team, although we are guard heavy so probably not us.
My point is that maybe if he shows he can still play he might be worth more than a lump of coal.
by MR on Jul 9, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The problem is, when would he play?
And how would he recoup any value when he’s lost all his minutes? Then, you throw in his post-2010 salary in a climate where basically nobody will trade for post-2010 salary, and teams just aren’t going to give up anything for him.
An expiring is probably the best we can do.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Jul 9, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
without
getting into my thoughs on Deshawn, I think if we can get something decent for him we jump on it. Decent being a contributor, or some semblance of cap help. It’s not like there is any sort of market for Deshawn, and he (hopefully) won’t get much playing time to entice teams into a deal.
by CJHutch on Jul 9, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got the feeling -
at the meet and greet with Saunders that his back is not doing so well. Nothing really to base this on apart from instinct. Saunders talked about how well Brendan and Arenas were doing but all he said about DeShawn was that he was upstairs working on his back. It raised a red flag for me.
by ooba on Jul 9, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LIsten, if that's the case
then all bets are off. If he can’t play maybe he takes a buyout or something. But I think we’ll have to wait for more concrete evidence.
by MR on Jul 9, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but
how do you propose we get that evidence? Who do you sit?
by CJHutch on Jul 10, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Passing a physical
Training camp
Spot play
Not to mention I think the guy deserves a shot at an open competition for the starting SG slot along with Young, Foye, Miller, Taser. He won’t get it, but I think there needs to be a full open competition.
by MR on Jul 10, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we'll just have to
agree to disagree here. I’m just not a fan of Stevenson, and I can’t fathom giving him minutes over guys who can be consistently productive and/or need to develop.
by CJHutch on Jul 10, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that's what MR is suggesting
He’s simply saying that Stevenson getting through training camp under the faux impression of “competing for his starting job” is enough to persuade teams he may have value. Just because there’s an “open competition” doesn’t mean Stevenson gets minutes.
However, if part of the “pumping up Stevenson’s value” comes in the form of extra regular-season minutes, then I would agree with you, CJ, in thinking that’s a bad idea.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Jul 10, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll have to
clarify. What you’re saying
He’s simply saying that Stevenson getting through training camp under the faux impression of "competing for his starting job" is enough to persuade teams he may have value
sounds different from MR ’s words
I think the guy deserves a shot at an open competition for the starting SG slot
which just sound preposterous to me. No offense MR, I just have a particular dislike for DS. Both his skills and his decision making.
by CJHutch on Jul 10, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not a big DS fan either, but if he outplays someone I think he should get minutes. I think the chances of him outplaying those guys and getting those minutes are none to none, but I just come from the old Joe Gibbs school that you don’t lose your spot to injury. If you’re a rotation player then you get a chance to compete to remain that way. He’s worked pretty hard for the Wiz and I think he deserves the respect of not throwing him away like a piece of garbage before sneakers hit the court. That’s called basic human respect. If you don’t have that then you’re just Isiah Thomas.
If he gets outplayed (which we all know he will) then the locker room might be an easier place. And if he does compete it might give him a little trade value. In all honesty, if he’s healthy and returns to 07-08 form it’s possible he could earn a few minutes.
Now someone will read half of what I just wrote and will accuse me of being a huge Stevenson fan or being related to him or something.
by MR on Jul 10, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I definitely
agree that the position should be won and no given. I’m just of the mindset that, all things being equal, DS has no shot at winning the spot.
Also, I don’t believe these sentiments were shared by the former (2) coaching regimes. I think DS was handed the starting spot simply because he was a veteran. This is not to say that NY was necessarily the better option early on (though I think Mason may have been), just that it was never in question.
by CJHutch on Jul 10, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the position should be won and no given. I’m just of the mindset that, all things being equal, DS has no shot at winning the spot.
Then we are in agreement.
I also don’t like the message it sends to some of the younger players to have a guy that has played through as much as DS and worked as hard as him to be pushed aside without at least a theoretical chance to compete.
by MR on Jul 10, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
valid point
But I also didn’t like the message of the prior regime that a rookie (or young’un) gets pulled for a mistake, yet when a vet makes the same mistake(s), he remains in the game.
I’m gonna put this out there. I think Stevenson’s “defensive specialist” moniker is a little overblown, and I also think that his skills are that of a role player off the bench, maybe the 3rd 2 guard (on a balanced roster) at most. But my biggest criticism of him is the “feud” between him and LeBron. While it provided for good media fodder (and probably blog as well), I found it rather embarrassing. Here is a low-talent player getting in a back and forth with one of the best 2 or 3 players in the league. I don’t think you need to genuflect to James, or any other superstar for that matter, but provoking him like that was just bush league. Haywood, and even Blatche, treated James like you should. I gained tons of respect for Brendan when he was the only player not afraid to knock Lebron on his a$$. But Deshawn pulling on the dragon’s tail like he did was just silly. He is nowhere near Lebron’s league, and it just made him look pathetic. Also turned the team into a laughing stock for those 2 weeks. It’s something I would expect from a rookie, not a “grizzled” vet. I could even see if it was Gilbert, or Caron I guess, doing it. At least that’s closer to the same level. But a moderate talent player doing it is ridiculous. Luckily Lebron James ISN’T Michael Jordan, or we’d be in trouble for a long time. Does anyone remember the Jordan – LaBradford Smith “fued”. What a joke.
I just think that sort of thing, along with his stupid “You Can’t See Me” wave when he makes a bucket (after missing 12), is detrimental to a team, especially one so rife with young players. Leave the headlines for the headliners, and concentrate on how you’re going to help YOUR team, not provoke the other one.
by CJHutch on Jul 10, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what would you have Stevenson do
When LeBron said something derogatory about Stevenson’s game and his team…. What’s did you want him to do? Bow down to the King, and say “yes sir, may I have another” ?
Everyone thinks that Stevenson started this whole thing by calling LeBron James “overrated” – but actually it was James that started it….
From Mike Wise’s column in the Washington Post:
He’s the one, DeShawn said, who trashed Stevenson and the Wizards within earshot of Drew Gooden, a former Cavaliers player who happens to Stevenson’s best friend in the league from their days together in Orlando.
“He thought it wasn’t going to get back to me,” Stevenson said. “He said something about my game. He said I’m getting a lot of hype this year, that he doesn’t think I’m the good player I am and basically that I suck, our team sucks and we’re not going anywhere. I took offense to that. If LeBron James never said that comment, we wouldn’t have the rivalry we have right now.”
For his part, LeBron admits he’s called Stevenson’s game into question but said he’s never gotten personal, adding, "I don’t know DeShawn.
“Look, I didn’t say what I said for fame,” Stevenson said. “I’ve been in this league eight years. I said what I said because I have a sense of pride and I don’t think anyone should be bashing me and my team like that.”
I thought Wizards fans knew all of this already……… And the only reason the team was a “laughing stock” was because the National Media has their heads shoved so far up James’ bank account, that they would NEVER say anything derogatory about their media darling without risk of losing precious millions in marketing dollars…. ( “Tonight on TNT, it’s LeBron James vs. Kobe Bryant” – - – - hardly ever even mentioning the teams names or the 25-28 other players on those teams).
If you think defending yourself and your team is “bush league”, then you and I have a different definition of bush league.
Luckily Lebron James ISN’T Michael Jordan
Yeah, you got that right – Jordan would NEVER have insulted another player behind his back, or insulted his team.
I personally feel that LeBron has shown his true colors all along. Especially after this year’s debacle of not shaking hands after losing in the Playoffs. The constant whining to Referees about non-calls. Acting like he’s been murdered every time someone touches him. Thinking the League should allow his traveling (“Crab dribble”). Confiscating tapes of his Highness being dunked on.
LeBron James may be one of the best players ever – but he’s NOT a nice person.
On the other hand, Stevenson has been nothing but professional during his time here in Washington – doing whatever the team needed (Shooting Guard, defensive specialist, distributor, etc…) even playing through his back injury last year, until he just couldn’t do it any more. (All the while, bloggers in Cleveland calling him a “thug”, and the National Media questioning his intelligence for his comments).
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by Rook6980 on Jul 10, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Preach Brother Rook! Preach!
As annoyed as I tend to get with Stevenson in general, everything in this post is true. And lets not forget LeBron and his good buddy Jay-Z clowning the Wizards at some club in D.C. in full view of Caron Butler (and other Wizards if I remember correctly).
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Jul 11, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying
that Lebron isn’t a punk. I think he is. I think he’s a narcissistic prima dona. But that’s not going to change.
. What’s did you want him to do? Bow down to the King, and say "yes sir, may I have another"
I believe I said
I don’t think you need to genuflect to James
But what is the point of getting into a tit for tat with the biggest star in the league during a playoff series against his team? What good could possibly come of it? So Lebron hurt his feelings? You know how to get him back? Beat him. Don’t stoke his fires. Everyone knows the media, even the NBA, is going to back Lebron. So, yeah, of course Deshawn is going to be laughed at and, with him, the team. So Lebron talked s%^t about him, Stevenson said stupid crap back, and now EVERYONE’S talking s%&t about him. Most people didn’t even know who Stevenson was before that happen. Now he’ll forever be in the annals of NBA lore as Lebron’s goat. Not just because he came off pathetic, but because he did it and his team got embarrassed on the court as well. If what he did was so stand up, why didn’t his team back him? Sure, they said he can say what he wants and all that, but I didn’t hear Caron saying he was better than Lebron, or “easier to cover” like DS said. Why? Because they wanted to win the series, not be a sideshow.
Look, I’ve held this in this whole time because I kne wI’d be jumped on for saying it. I was the only WizFan (that I know of), at the time the whole thing went down, who thought it was a big mistake. The truth is, Cleveland would have beat us anyway. And the media would have revering Lebron regardless. But why make it worse? But you still play the game. And play to win, which means don’t give the other team chalk board material.
Yeah, you got that right – Jordan would NEVER have insulted another player behind his back, or insulted his team.
That’s true. Jordan did his talking, trash or otherwise, on the court. And everyone knows how he used to pull stuff from wherever he could to motivate himself. Jeff Van Gundy always says the biggest mistake he made was calling out Jordan during the playoffs. It’s just not a smart thing to do. And, as much as most of us on here dislike Lebron, there is no denying his talent. He’s not Jordan, and he never will be. But he can beat you single-handedly if he focuses on doing so. Why put yourself in the position to make that happen?
LeBron James may be one of the best players ever – but he’s NOT a nice person.
I think he’s a pampered wuss. I don’t care that he’s not a “Nice person.” And since we talked about Jordan well, MJ wasn’t really a nice person either. And he’s probably one my 2 or 3 favorite athletes of all time.
– doing whatever the team needed (Shooting Guard, defensive specialist, distributor, etc…)
Also, at the beginning of my original post, I mentioned that the feud was MY biggest problem with Deshawn. I also think don’t think he’s any good. I think he was a marginal player BEFORE his injury. I never saw him as a “lockdown defender.” Sure, he put the effort in to guard guys, something the rest of the team didn’t do. But he’s no lockdown defender. Furthermore, he has the rep of being a “streaky shooter”. I think of a streaky shooter as someone who gets hot during a game and can hit 3 or 4 shots in a row, then goes cold for awhile, then gets hot again. DS would go multiple games without hitting 3 or 4 shots in a row. That’s not streaky, that’s just a bad shooter.
by CJHutch on Jul 11, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well then
You and I have different opinions….
I believe it’s a good thing to call out a punk. To let him know that, as a man, as a player and as a teammate, you won’t stand for disrespect.
Stevenson had the ’nads to stand up and say it…. No one else in the League, or the Media has the guts to.
But what is the point of getting into a tit for tat with the biggest star in the league
I think the point is to be a man…. not to just take it, like everyone else, and let it slide. Not to allow the “biggest star in the League” to act like an ass without pointing it out.
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by Rook6980 on Jul 11, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry - rant over
It’s just that the whole Stevenson / LeBron thing gets me riled up.
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by Rook6980 on Jul 11, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like
I said, I don’t mind standing up to him. But I much prefer Brendan’s way of handling him to Deshawn’s. Most players in the league are scared to do what Brendan did as well. But he did it for the betterment of his team. Deshawn did what he did because he got his feelings hurt.
Also, as I said before, I realize I’m probably the only one on here who feels this way. So I expect the backlash, or “rants.” No need to apologize.
by CJHutch on Jul 11, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta Give DS a chance...
Any chance they want to part with Nene :-)
by khrabb on Jul 9, 2009 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is a terrific deal
Wizards get rid of salary and a big guy with a pulse (I think), and the Nugs get a SG who already has a bunch of ridiculous tattoos.
But the question is whether DeShawn can pass a physical.
by disgrunted on Jul 9, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Deshawn and Bird Man can compare tats
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by Rook6980 on Jul 9, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of
tats, what happens if Stevenson goes to a team that already has a number 2? Can he return his jersey tattoo?
also, on NBA.com
“The Birdman is back – Anderson resigns with Nuggets.”
Oh, well. I was still holding out a sliver of hope.
by CJHutch on Jul 9, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as Denver sees LA as a roadblock to the Finals
I don’t see them making this deal. I’m thinking that they’d rather have an extra body to throw at Odom/Bynum/Gasol than another guard who thinks they can “stop” Kobe.
That aside, it could only improve our roster.
by Pryme on Jul 9, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe
they think Deshawn could lock down Kobe.
by CJHutch on Jul 9, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeShawn's a perfect replacement for Dahntay Jones
A backcourt of Billups and a healthy DeShawn would be nice.
In comparison, JR Smith will make DeShawn look like Bruce Bowen in his prime.
by disgrunted on Jul 9, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say a healthy DeShawn is better than Dahntay Jones
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Jul 9, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not wait until we see if DS can still play...
If I get disgruntled’s message right, how would we feel if we saw DS getting 15-25 decent minutes a game covering Chauncey’s back as he once did for Gilbert, while we have Steven Hunter occupying large amounts of bench and locker room space?
If we hold on to DeShawn through training camp and exhibitions and he shows that he can play a bit we can hold him for insurance or get more for him in trade… If he is physically done then perhaps we can get relief from the league….
On the lighter side, he could as easily tattoo a new number AFTER the “2” on his back… a “3” for example….
In any case, this is not “They shoot horses don’t they”…. or is it?
by khrabb on Jul 9, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you
In any case, this is not "They shoot horses don’t they"…. or is it?
want MY opinion on that?
Regardless,
how would we feel if we saw DS getting 15-25 decent minutes a game covering Chauncey’s back
how upset would we really be? We want NY to develop, we want to see if Foye bacn be a major contributor, and we want to get the 3’s from Miller. THere’s no room for Deshawn. Whether you think he’s good or not, why not let him wave his hand somewhere where he’s in the rotation?
by CJHutch on Jul 9, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
While I fully agree that you shouldn’t trade a guy at his lowest market value, two things go against that here:
(1) You think his market value is low now, wait until he is the team’s 5th string shooting guard (behind Foye, Arenas, Young and Miller. What the heck, throw Caron in there, too — 6th string.).
(2) The Wizards would be saving about $8 million next year as a result of moving DeShawn for an expiring, which would permit them to sign Haywood, Foye, etc. I don’t care if Hunter is a 7 ft. piece of petrified wood.
by disgrunted on Jul 9, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why not let him wave his hand somewhere where he’s in the rotation?
he would certainly fit in with Denver.
by MR on Jul 9, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Problem is
He won’t get 14-25 minutes on the Wizards this year.
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by Rook6980 on Jul 9, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that...
but he may be worth more in a trade if he can show something during the exhibition season OR if he has to retire voluntarily off our roster, yes?
The man was about the biggest bargain in the league in his first year for us and his current contract is not totally toxic.
EG showed in the Minny deal that he knows how to extract value out of a really bad contract, so I am comfortable that he could move James and DS for value when the time is right.
Better I think to focus first on signing some non-petrified bulk to take some of the load off Brendan and light a little bit of fire under AB and JVM.
The bottom line is that even if Flip won’t go more than 10 deep, the key to success for the Wizards is to stock up on players who can actually play from the top of the roster on down. We are closer to that objectve now than at any time I can think of.
by khrabb on Jul 9, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
but again, Deshawn isn’t going to play enough to showcase whatever he may or may not have. Personally, I think if we played him it would lower his trade value. Regardless though, the exhibition season is when we need to load up on the minutes given to the youngsters. I don’t see them trotting Deshawn out on the runway to see if we can start an auction for him at the expense of developing team chemistry.
by CJHutch on Jul 9, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think he has to play a ton of minutes. Just demonstrate that he’s not injured (ie pass a physical), which I’m not sure he can do right now.
by MR on Jul 9, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Value? We talkin' bout value, man?
Stevenson has no value in this economic environment at all. The Cap numbers for next year look like something from the opening credits of ‘The Road Warrior’. If we can find a desperate team to take him off our hands, we pounce like a puma and open a can of meow-mix to celebrate.
If we can get rid of Stevenson for an expiring, we shouldn’t care if they guy coming in has a bomb strapped to his chest and infectious warts on his fingers. We are in position to lose much more valuable players than Stevenson by standing pat.
by Hoopalotta on Jul 9, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How will DeShawn get 15-25 minutes a game on this team?
Unless Nick Young gets zero and Foye and Miller get less than 25?
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Jul 9, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a fan of this deal but...
I am a fan of the promised “PROS” & “CONS” section of the summary. Please keep it up.
Post Script: Maybe Jake can think of Wizard related title for this type of post instead of “Today’s Trade Idea”. Or maybe alternative words for “PROS” or “CONS”.
"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King
by Lukbuster on Jul 9, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure if anybody is a fan of this idea at all but...
I dig how polls are titled "Pollin’ "
Maybe replace “Today’s Trade Idea” with “Flipping”?
Note: Too soon to nickname a type of post after such a new part of the Wizards?
"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King
by Lukbuster on Jul 9, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course we’d have a “Foyled” section when we lose and “Miller Time” when we win.
by MR on Jul 9, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hmm...I'll consider all new names
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Jul 9, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh, I'd rather keep DeShawn ....
Hunter doesn’t seem to have anything.
Then again, DeShawn & his tats/style would fit right in with Denver.
Seeing him and Jr Smith on the same team would be ridiculous.
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by Truth About It on Jul 9, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
on another thread someone posted making a trade of james and d-steve for rip
i like this deal becuase we could then try a trade of rip for brad miller
by wizchamp on Jul 9, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mavs looking to trade dampier?
i propose stevenson and james for dampier
by wizchamp on Jul 9, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damp's contract is really valuable next year because it's non-guaranteed
So it gives a team desperately seeking to get under that tax line instant savings anytime. I think Dallas saves it for the deadline and for a true star. They’ve been a buyer.
Here’s more on the contract from Dallasbasketball.com.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Jul 9, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have been talking up Dampier for a while now...
There have been a lot of raps on Damp over the years, but he is actually a very serviceable center who can grab rebounds, hit the garbage shot and push and shove against the Shaqs and Dwights of the world without giving much ground. Having his behind behind Bendan would be great.
But you are right Mike, Dallas is not going to let him go for nothing (Cuban is a spender but he is not an idiot, he knows what he has here) …. and that means that DS and James won’t even come close to getting it done.
by khrabb on Jul 10, 2009 4:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And sure enough...
The Dampier for Hamilton rumors are on SI.com now.
One thing I had forgotten, there are Mavs fans who call him “Erica” just like the old “Brenda” stuff.
I would love to see any fan use those names to either player’s face!
by khrabb on Jul 10, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More on Damp's contract from Mavs Moneyball
Something like that is so valuable in 2010 when everyone is trying to clear money. There’s no way they trade it for Rip Hamilton.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Jul 10, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
o man i wish this trade happens … we need cap next year to resign Haywood and Foye
and this move will even out our guard gut and add some depth add C ….
Most importantly this move will clear the way for our young guys to step up …. if our young core steps up WE become very dangerous … our young core stepping up could be what really puts us over the top .. not a vet or a MLE vet could bring what our Young guys could bring to us if we develop them into what we know they can be
im all for this Trade … im wishing its really is possible with the cap being so low next season with expiring being soo valuable n all
by eltacoman on Jul 9, 2009 11:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's actually good news salary-wise
Because if he’s traded, the injured player exception means the league pays for Hunter’s salary, not his team. We could instantly save his salary.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Jul 10, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yaa
im a nuggets fan and we traded for arron afflallo so we prob wont do this trade even though it is a good idea
by hvino on Jul 25, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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