So much for McDyess - Mikki Moore here we come. Yippee!
From Mike Jones and the Outlet
The Wizards were listed among possible suitors for Antonio McDyess, but sources with knowledge of the situation said although Washington would love to have McDyess on their roster, they know can't offer anything close to what other teams will offer him. The Wizards don't want to use the mid-level exception, because even if a player agreed to that ball-park figure of $5 million, Washington would be taxed equal that number and end up paying $10 million total. McDyess is a solid vet, but not worth $10 million as a 10-minute-a-game backup, which is what the Wizards are looking for.
So much for the ideal plan of making the basketball team better this year..... I guess it makes sense from a fiscal standpoint; but if the Wizards are going to wait until late Summer to add a big man, they'll be scraping the dregs from the bottom of the barrell.
Can you tell I'm psyched?
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Bullshit
Pay to win.
That might be rash, I guess, but after a lackluster few months, I’m not psyched for 2009-2010 either (neither?).
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by Baltimo on Jul 3, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yea the search for our big man doesn’t really seem to encouraging now that McDyess is out of the picture but as shrewd as Ernie can be with his negotiations in key moments I have to have at least a little faith in him.
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by purpleonblack86 on Jul 3, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh well
I’d have loved to have had him, and I definitely think McDyess would have played more than ten minutes, but it’s not the end of the world. Then again, we still have a shot at a sign and trade, I think.
By the way, it will be the end of the world if we get Mikki Moore. That guy looked like garbage when he was playing for Boston, and I’d rather Dominic McGuire slide over to the 4 than have to see Mikki Moore in a Wizards uniform.
by pantslessyoda1 on Jul 3, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There's the difference
between teams that make decisions based on the basketball situation and teams that look at the “fiscal responsibility” of running a team.
Los Angeles Lakers are over the Luxury Tax and spent their full MLE on Ron Artest
The Boston Celtics are over the Luxury Tax and have offered their full MLE to Rasheed Wallace.
The Maverics are over the Luxury Tax but spent their full MLE on Marcin Gortat
And the Cleveland LeBrons are way over the Luxury Tax but they were actively chasing all of those guys. And you know they’ll resign Anderson Varejao and theyll also sign McDyess or Nesterovic. Hell, they’ll probably be able to convince Allen Iverson to come play for them for the LLE.
These teams know that the more talent they have sitting on their bench, the better they’ll be able to withstand injuries, distribute minutes to keep their Stars fresh, and have plenty of juice left when the Playoffs arrive.
Meanwhile, the Wizards will wait until the Summer is over, and sign a guy like Sean May (if he hasn’t ballooned up to 450 pounds) , or Mikki Moore or Adonal Foyle…. or worse yet, they’ll just go into the season with the roster the way it is… and hope everyone stays healthy. If an injury does occur, they’ll pick up a scrub from the D-League or off the scrap heap – and another promising season will go down the tubes.
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by Rook6980 on Jul 3, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah the only way of getting another quality big in will most likely have to come by a trade
Hendrix would of been a great add to our summer team Adonal Foyle or Skinner or by some miracle get Shelden Williams to somthng close to LLE that dude can rebound
by eltacoman on Jul 3, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and those teams sell out their arenas
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by KDP on Jul 3, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait... Gortat has another name?
I thought Gortat was like Madonna. Gortat is the perfect name for a Big. I could see a cheap SciFi channel program entitled “Gortat the Destroyer”. He should cut out that Marcin crap.
"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King
by Lukbuster on Jul 3, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oops...
*titled
"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King
by Lukbuster on Jul 3, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gortat the Polish Hammer...
Like Vlad the Impaler…
by khrabb on Jul 4, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was referring to Gortat's first name
being Marcin….
That’s like Vlad the Impaler’s real name being Vladimir I. M. Sweetness
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by Rook6980 on Jul 4, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What About
There’s the difference
between teams that make decisions based on the basketball situation and teams that look at the "fiscal responsibility" of running a team.
The San Antonio Spurs won the NBA Finals in 2006-07, and did so with a payroll of $65,327,646, only 9th highest in the league. I don’t know what the luxury tax was that season, but that was probably below that. The Miami Heat won the NBA Finals the season before with a payroll of $59,997,698, good enough for 15th highest payroll. Incidentally, they beat the team with the 2nd highest payroll in the NBA that season, with $97,881,086, second only to the Isaiah Thomas New York Knicks.
Meanwhile, Abe has agreed to resign Arenas and Jamison and told Ernie that he didn’t have to make a trade at the deadline to get under the luxury tax thershold. Abe will pay the luxury tax this season, you can count on it. I don’t think that such parameters will prevent us from winning the championship. If anyone is to blame for us not winning a championship, it is Ernie Grunfeld for not assembling the right mix of players for the parameters that Abe set.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
by cuppettcj on Jul 3, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do people listen?
Flip said they wanted a 8-10 minute insurance big.
Ernie said they’d wait out the market.
Someone really thought we were going to pay McDyess?
by Jheiser3 on Jul 3, 2009 6:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The silly season continues....
EG spelled out the path this team was taking from the very begining. We needed a long distance threat and a low post banger/rebounder. He has been quoted time and time again saying this along with various media outlets that have access to the team. We are halfway there on EG’s plan. This doom and gloom is killer fellas. We all know money doesn’t win titles. We have a local franchise to remind us of that every year. Lets just enjoy being fans of the hapless wizards before we turn in to GASP….. Red Sox Fans circa Pre -2004.
by ccrun1800 on Jul 3, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not so worried
Ernie Grunfeld did mention he may make a late-summer trade which would allow them to alleviate the crowd in the backcourt. Grunfeld did not mention James or Stevenson’s names when talking about the rotations for each position next year in the interview with the Junkies. So, perhaps they will be used in a trade which IMO would be better for the team then signing a free agent.
Also, I think 10 million is too much to play for an 8-10 minute guy. Teams like Boston, Cleveland, Dallas, and L.A. are in fact willing to use their MLEs on players but players that are much better than McDyess.
by lj15 on Jul 3, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Teams like Boston, Cleveland, Dallas, and L.A. are in fact willing to use their MLEs on players but players that are much better than McDyess.
And those teams are better than us, and will remain better. Because they already were stacked, yet remain committed to improve as much as possible. Does anyone think we will be competitive in the playoffs with the current roster, give or take a lower level big man?
by CJHutch on Jul 3, 2009 6:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
My point of that statement was that if the Wizards were going to use their MLE it shouldnt be on somebody like McDyess. They should use it on better players that will actually play significant minutes like Boston, Cleveland, Dallas, and L.A. are.
by lj15 on Jul 3, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
I was just pointing out that those teams are actually targeting the “better players” while we seem to be waiting for what’s left. I krealize that Ernie may be thinking he’s going to make an 11th hour trade for a legit big man, but you can’t assume one will be available for what he’s willing to offer.
by CJHutch on Jul 3, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2nd round tops.
But really, the optimist says that a trade is the best route any ways. You can get your payroll the way you want via trade. You are more limited in free agency because the number of players will to accept a one-year contract is limited.
Ernie could very well be posturing. I will give him the benefit of the doubt because statements that suggest we only need an 8-10min spot player is BS at best. They need a back up center that is decent because BH was injured and is in a contract year. And there will be demand for him next year. And you need a bargaining chip or you will pay through the nose to resign him.
by les boulez bomber on Jul 4, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
without haywood, the bullets will be lucky to lose in the first round of the playoffs.
by les boulez bomber on Jul 4, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent Point!
I hadn’t thought about the factor of not having a good backup center will have on the leverage Ernie has to negotiate Brendan’s resigning. Considering that, I’m pretty sure he has got to have something up his sleeve.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
by cuppettcj on Jul 4, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
willing to pay
I am tired of hearing about the saving money. The salary situation was the teams doing, nobody else’s. If they are serious about contending, they will have to go over the luxury tax, something they seem hesitant to do. This goes against the mantra we were hearing early on.
“Washington Wizards owner Abe Pollin says he is ready to dig deeply into his own pocket to win the NBA championship that has eluded him for three decades – even if it means incurring stiff financial penalties by exceeding the league’s salary cap for the first time.”
by CJHutch on Jul 3, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We are over the Luxury tax....
Using the the full MLE will just send us screaming pass it. We want someone for 5-10 minutes a night just to give haywood a spell and the other bigs a spell when they need it. 10 million for the 8th or 9th man off the bench. We just got out of the Etan Thomas mess why are we so eager to jump right back in that boat.
by ccrun1800 on Jul 3, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not
saying we should have signed McDyess for $10 mil. What I’m saying is we will have to pay to get someone who can actually help us. As for this 10 minutes thing, I don’t buy it. This notion that our roster is set is preposterous. Sure, we have plenty of talent, but it’s mostly at guard. Haywood, McGee, and Blatche will not be enough to hold the fort at the big forward/center spots.
by CJHutch on Jul 3, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Getting a McDyess would be nice, but it’s really not feasible or even for that matter necessary. Trading Mike James, Deshawn, and some future picks for Tyson Chandler would make us a better team, but it would also be financially insane and overdoing it on the talent.
I don’t think we need to add more players at all. If anything, we should be eliminating some of our depth by trading a star and a good player for a superstar, not trying to sign guys we don’t need just so that we can have the deepest roster in league history or something. Blatche and McGee have their problems, but neither is considered fragile and they’ll most likely be a little bit better next year. Going five or six deep with quality big men (which is what McDyess would be classified as) is really unnecessary, and I can’t think of any team in the league that actually does it. Most team’s have two good starters, a decent backup, and one or two Scalabrines to go in and commit fouls if someone gets hurt. If we pick up a Shelden Williams or if Etan Thomas is bought out and re-signs with us for the vet minimum then that’s great, but we really don’t need to worry about pursuing guys who we’ve actually heard of.
by pantslessyoda1 on Jul 3, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really wish the NBA improved the league and went to a hard cap. It is not by accident the NFL is the best pro league. It is no fun to only have maybe 6 teams that can legitimately win it. You can just skip the season and wait for the playoffs to start (just like I did this year)!
by les boulez bomber on Jul 4, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not True
Read my post above about the Spurs and the Heat. You don’t need to break the bank to bring home a champion. You just need the right mix of players to get the job done. It’s Ernie’s job to find that right mix of players.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
by cuppettcj on Jul 4, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
screw it!
i think ernie has decided he wants to find ways to make very good decisions worse than they are, we need a new GM.
by Terpsfan2189 on Jul 3, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Leon Powe?
What about that guy. He’s hurt and wouldn’t be available until January or so but he could be had pretty cheap. Basically rent the guy for the year and maybe he’d pay dividends at the end of the season into the playoffs.
by Natepyatt on Jul 3, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that's an idea
I love that guy and we could probably get him cheap – but we still need someone else to be ready off the bench at the beginning of the season.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Jul 3, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a good idea
Sign him for pennies on the dollar, then re-sign him or sign and trade him after he proves himself, sort of like what we did with Deshawn when he first came to DC.
by pantslessyoda1 on Jul 3, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
You sign him for a year (I read his salary with the C’s was 6 figures – so you could give him 1.5 – 2 for the year and tell him to buy some nice suits for the first several months).
You sign a scrub guy as insurance a 10-15 minute guy and tell him to buy the same suits.
You get two guys for one. One is insurance and will be there the year. The other is a young guy looking to prove himself and play for a contract once his knee heals up.
by Natepyatt on Jul 4, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this all makes not taking wagner in the 2nd round just plain stupid. knees…fleas…please
his knees were operated on years ago and were a non-factor in college.
he would be signing a non-guaranteed contract for $700,000 (yes, thousand) the first year.
he dominated the boards in college
and you only need him for one year for less than 10 minutes a game!
ernie has this whole season riding on the health of brendan haywood- a 30 min per game player whose injury exposed the achilles heel for their 19 win season.
quite frankly, it is just dumb. first of all, because they need two more big men. what if bh misses significant time next year. then you are stuck with the lovely option of deciding to resign your 30 something center who has missed the last two seasons….right where you want to be…there is a reason the spurs have won multiple championships, and it is not all because of tim duncan
by les boulez bomber on Jul 3, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I presume
you mean Blair? I think Dejuan Wagner is a little small for our needs, and I’m pretty sure he’s out of the league.
by CJHutch on Jul 3, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i did…thanks..
fit of rage, i guess :>)
by les boulez bomber on Jul 4, 2009 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I missed this
ernie has this whole season riding on the health of brendan haywood- a 30 min per game player whose injury exposed the achilles heel for their 19 win season.
This is a very good point. A lot of people (myself included) have been saying that our success depends on Arenas remaining healthy. The truth is, we could probably survive if he were to go down. We would NOT survive if Brendan were to go down. Hence the need for quality depth.
by CJHutch on Jul 3, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
McDyess is not quality depth at center...
He is not able to match up with Howard. You need someone like Perkins of Boston, or our own BTH to match up with guys that size. Guys like that aren’t easily available that’s why Cleveland gambled on Shaq. I would rather roll with McGee and Blatche and see what they have. They are much more likely to turn into the star performers that you are craving than an old guy like McDyess. That’s no slight on McDyess either, he’s very solid but he’s also on the down side of his career.
I continue to confused by two sentiments flying around. 1) we should pay through the nose for a clear backup, nonstar player, who will not make the difference for a championship… no backup center has to my knowledge (maybe Walton with the Celtics?) 2) There was so much nashing of teeth, last year about playing Songaila instead of our young bigs and now that they have another year and a couple more pounds under their belts everyone wants to get a better Songaila to put them back on the bench? To what purpose? Is the margin between McDyess and Blatche worth this much angst?
As someone up above said, we just ditched Etan why are we so eager to get in that situation again. I’m eager to spend Abe’s money to get a major player, but It shouldn’t be for a guy like McDyess who is going to take time from guys who mightg be better than him.
by NeverNervousPervis on Jul 3, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The post was not specifically about McDyess
But about the Wizard’s reluctance to spend their MLE on ANY player. Other “contending” teams seem to think that spending their MLE on upgrading their rosters is a good idea.
The Wizards are close to contending…. probably 4th best in the Eastern Conference. Perhaps ONE player away from being a real contender. Yet, the Lakers get Artest…. Houston gets Gortat…. The Celtics are getting Rasheed…. The Cavaliers will get SOMEONE for their MLE. And, once again, the Wizards refuse to spend theirs.
When was the last time the Wizards actually used their Mid Level Exception? I can’t even remember.
If the Wizards are really in “win now” mode…. then I can get behind that, ONLY if they spend like they want to win now. Instead, Ernie is spending like he just wants to get back to the Playoffs. Like it’s OK to be 4th best in the East. Like it doesn’t matter that Boston, Cleveland and Orlando still have more talent, and a better shot at contending for the Title.
I’d also still be OK they were NOT in “win now” mode – If they want to just get back to the Playoffs…. improve the roster each year…. develop the young talent each year…. and contend in 3 or 4 years… I’d be OK with that too…
But don’t tell me that you want to “win now” and be miserly with the money.
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by Rook6980 on Jul 3, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I understand but I think we will probably need to trade to get a major upgrade...
and not just because of the money. I don’t thinke we are an attractive option for most of the top MLE type players. If you are Artest do you go to the Lakers or here? He will likely be a starter for the favorite to win it all. Once the Lkers enteres in the competition we lost. Gortat is going to be a starter, we’re not offering that. Do you think Rasheed wants to come here? Particularly, if he has the chance to sign with the Celtics. Do you bench Butler for Hedo, if not why would he come here? etc.
So it’s more than just whether we want them. They have to want us too.
In the meantime, I’m not in favor of tying up too much money in guys that are only going to improve us on the margins. With the exception of Jamison the major pieces on our team are young. We need to play for now and the long haul.
by NeverNervousPervis on Jul 3, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
undecided
We need to play for now and the long haul.
I’m not sure if Ernie even knows what they’re playing for. At first I heard him and Abe say the luxury tax wouldn’t be an issue, that they were going to pay what it takes to win. Then I see them trade the lottery pick to save money, now they refuse to spend money. Again, the tax situation is a conundrum they got themselves into, so you can’t exactly feel sorry for them there.
What really worries me is the possibility that Ernie is just floundering in the wind. A lottery pick is nothing to sneeze at. It’s something you hopefully don’t get very often. All the top teams are built around lottery picks. The Lakers and Celtics are the only ones not built around their own. So you take advantage of it while you can. OK, fine, we didn’t make the pick, we traded it. But now there’s the possibility that NEITHER of the guys we traded for will be back next year. We have to trim some fat in order to resign them, and resign Haywood. Which means we won’t be spending next year either. So, WHEN exactly are we looking to contend?
by CJHutch on Jul 4, 2009 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought our last MLE was Songaila
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Jul 4, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Allow Me to Clarify Those Sentiments
I continue to confused by two sentiments flying around. 1) we should pay through the nose for a clear backup, nonstar player, who will not make the difference for a championship… no backup center has to my knowledge (maybe Walton with the Celtics?)
Gortat was huge for the Magic in the playoffs this year. If it wasn’t for his stellar play they would have probably gotten bounced by the Celtics in the second round instead of advancing to the NBA Finals. His presence made them that much better, and that is why Houston gave him a 700% raise this offseason.
After Kobe Bryant, the player most valuable to the Lakers in the NBA Finals at least (and maybe even in the playoffs altogether) was Lamar Odom – the Lakers sixth man. Incidentally, the Lakers were paying their sixth man $14 million to come off of the bench.
How many titles would the Spurs have won without their bench player, Manu Ginobli?
Back when Chicago was winning titles, they used three interchangable centers of Will Perdue, Luc Longley, and Bill Wennington. None of those guys were stars, but those 18 fouls came in very handy when bodying up to the likes of Shaquille O’Neal (in his youth with Orlando) and Patrick Ewing.
2) There was so much nashing of teeth, last year about playing Songaila instead of our young bigs and now that they have another year and a couple more pounds under their belts everyone wants to get a better Songaila to put them back on the bench?
The biggest reason I had against playing Songaila instead of the youth was that it was a lost season! When you are winning one out of every 5 games, then it makes all the sense in the world to accelerate the development of your young players. But not when you are trying to compete for a championship. Do you think I would be happy to watch McGee fail to box out and give up another offensive rebound for the umpteenth time in a close game late in the season when the result might mean the difference between the 3rd seed and the 5th seed in a tightly contested EC standings? Not exactly.
BTW, I’m pretty certain the guys we are discussing are a bit more than a “better Songaila”, and a bit more qualifyed to fill our need for a backup center.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
by cuppettcj on Jul 3, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm specifically talking about back up centers.
And I think you are making my case. Are you saying that you think if Chicago had Herb Williams instead of Bill Wennington they wouldn’t have beaten Ewing? Or that Orlando couldn’t have plugged in Nesterovich for Gortat and had basically the same result.
As far as Ginobili goes he plays more minutes than the starters at his spot. Odom is the same only more so because of the unreliability of Bynum (who they would have won without.) If we can sign a guy who is going to play 30 mins a game and be better than anyone else in that spot. I’m all for it. Trade for Amare and make Jamison a six man I’m for it. But that’s not what is being discussed here. What is being discussed is signing a 35 year old 6’9 220 lb forward who produced solid but unspectacular numbers (something like 9 and 9 in 30 minutes) last year. He is full of veteran savvy but seems likely to me to at best only marginally more productive than the guys we have.
by NeverNervousPervis on Jul 3, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me also say that I would love to get a Bill Wennington...
A 7 footer with a work ethic and fouls to give, but not for MLE money. The post on Nesterovich seems to me to be spot on.
by NeverNervousPervis on Jul 4, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you really mean to discount McDyess' numbers?
because he played 30 minutes a night and averaged 9.6 points and 9.8 rebounds per game….for a team that won a lot more than 19 games last year. I would call that an upgrade over Blatche’s 10 points and 5 rebounds and JaVale McGee’s paltry 3.9 rebounds per game. Not to mention the fact that McDyess is an excellent interior defensive player, who at 245 lbs (not 220) is strong enough to muscle even bigger players away from the lane. (because he’s not built like a twig…. and doesn’t eat Doritos before games… and he actually lifts weights).
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by Rook6980 on Jul 4, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NBA Stats has him listed at 220 butI'm willing to be corrected. Regardless...
I’m not discounting it. I’m saying it’s a marginal improvement over Blatche assuming Blatche doesn’t improve. Blatche is better offensively, doesn’t rebound quite as well and makes mistakes. However is upside is much better than McDyess, and we now have a better coach. In any case, neither will be starters since those spots are locked up by BTH and Antawn. So I am stating that the marginal difference between our young bigs and him as bench players isn’t sufficient to spend the MLE. But that’s my opinion YMMV.
Incidently, I think that Blatche is taller and heavier than McDyess even if it is Dorito weight.
by NeverNervousPervis on Jul 4, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah... the site I wnet to was not the NBA site. I'm duly chastened.
Also, to be clear. I’m not knocking McDyess. I’m saying the difference 9.6 and 9.8 in 30 vs. 10 and 5.3 in 24 is not worth the MLE. Especially since we have been a reasonably good offensive rebounding team when BTH is healthy.
I also understand the fear that our season could go south if BTH gets hurt in this situation, but I don’t see how signing someone like McDyess addresses this. Plus, it seems like signing him may stop us from being able to keep BTH down the road.
by NeverNervousPervis on Jul 4, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think About This
And I think you are making my case. Are you saying that you think if Chicago had Herb Williams instead of Bill Wennington they wouldn’t have beaten Ewing?
Maybe, but they probably wouldn’t have if all they had behind Luc Longley was Manute Bol. Get it?
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
by cuppettcj on Jul 4, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you need a guy who is at least 6-10 and 250+
every team above us has an important center, and he is the star for the conference champs.
brendon will be in foul trouble every game without someone big that can at least hold the paint.
and you can not plan to win with kids who have proved nothing. hopefully, though, they will be the X factors for us in the playoffs. but there is a big difference between being hopeful and confident!
by les boulez bomber on Jul 4, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't Just +1 It
Rec it. Hit the actions link below the post, and then hit the Rec link. If three people Rec the same comment, it turns a different color so that it stands out.
Not trying to be a prick, just thought that you would want to know.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
by cuppettcj on Jul 4, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I’ve tried that you prick. Just kidding. Seriously though, I dunno if it’s my internet settings or what, but everytime I hit actions, it just disappears. I’ve been trying to figure that out. Along with how to delete a reply.
by CJHutch on Jul 5, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll send it along to support
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Jul 5, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
I’m pretty sure it’s something with my computer. I can ‘action’ fine at work. Still don’t know how to delete though.
by CJHutch on Jul 5, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Don't Think You Can Delete
I wish that SB Nation would let you delete a comment as long as nobody has replied to it and edit them as well. I’m pretty sure that is not allowed. Rec and Flag should be available, though, under actions.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
by cuppettcj on Jul 6, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you really want to delete a comment
Let me, Rook, Jake or Truth know, and we’ll discuss doing it depending on what the content of the comment is.
We’re the only ones that can.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Jul 6, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mcdyess would have been great
but i never felt like it was a real possibility, so this is not much of a bummer for me. mikki moore? that would be a dagger.
rasho rasho rasho – it’s the only reasonable hope.
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Jul 3, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hope
Everything we hope for, it seems, never pans out. Maybe we should write a lot of posts about how much we would love to acquire Mikki Moore. That would guarantee that it would never happen.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
by cuppettcj on Jul 3, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something probably will happen before the season starts, most likely via trade.
But I’d even be okay with waiting until the trade deadline. That’s when James’ expiring deal will be worth the most. Throw in another guard and/or a draft pick and the Wiz should be able to pick up someone pretty good.
In the meantime, McGee and Blatche should get 15-20 minutes per game. Any vet coming in this summer is just going to take their minutes. Give the playing time to the young guysm, but chew them out if they aren’t playing hard or make bonehead mistakes. Coaches and vets with an eye on playoff seeding are going to stay on top of those guys. The team would be dangerously thin at the 4 and 5, but there’s no better way to develop McGee and Blatche.
by antawnjameson on Jul 4, 2009 12:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you are right…they have a lot of time. and they dont NEED someone until a month or three before the playoffs.
by les boulez bomber on Jul 4, 2009 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
powe and others
powe is available he is 6-8 but weighs 240 he could be a nice pickup.(he also has championship experience…)
bass is available and so are
melvin ely
shelden williams
if aren’t making a trade then any of these FA’s plus rasho could be a nice addition to the frontcourt
by wizchamp on Jul 4, 2009 12:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why is everyone saying we only need a 8-10min big man?
If we are trying to contend right now, we have to spend the MLE on a good post player. Blatche is garbage and McGee is raw, so to me, adding a player like McDyess automatically puts him ahead of Blatche and McGee in the depth chart. Haywood’s gonna play ~30min a night give or take, and this is without foul situations.
We’re trying to win right now, so let our young players develop at practise. There is a big man crush of McGee here, and while he does have potential, he will only hurt us playing right now as a “possible contender”. You have Lakers spending for Artest, Cavs spending for Shaq, so if we do want to contend we have to spend for a Gortat or someone of the like. We don’t need a insurance policy, we need a capable big man that goes 2nd behind BW on the depth because Blatche and McGee won’t get it down should Haywood get into foul trouble, hurt, etc.
by Team Serbia on Jul 4, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not everyone
Ernie said it. Flip used the words “insurance big”. They aren’t spending the MLE. Ernie likes Andray so much he counts him twice. The rest of us want more than that.
I don’t expect them to sign anyone. They’ll use Mike James’ contract to get their guy.
by Jheiser3 on Jul 4, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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