Randy Foye is a worthwhile reclamation project, just like a guy we got four years ago
Ever since the trade with Minnesota, I've been doing a lot of reading and thinking about Randy Foye. I wrote a bit about Mike Miller before the trade occurred, but I think his story is pretty clear -- as long as he rediscovers that he's a shooter and not Magic Johnson, he'll be an asset on offense and at the very least not a complete liability on defense in the short-term. Foye, however, is an enigma, and I've wondered for a while where exactly he fits in. Does management think he'll be a backup shooting guard? A starter? A sometimes point guard?
It was this confusion that caused me to not like his inclusion in the trade initially. I didn't understand why we needed a player who looks like Gilbert Arenas and plays a bit like Gilbert Arenas, but way worse. Why not just give more minutes to Nick Young, who seemingly does a lot of the stuff Foye does? Why make life more difficult on Flip Saunders to dole out minutes to backcourt players?
The more I'm reading, though, the more enthusiastic I am about Foye. He came into Minnesota with heightened expectations, was asked to do too much and saw his role changing constantly. First, he was a sparkplug off the bench, then he was the starting shooting guard, then he was injured, then he was the point guard of the future, then he was the starting shooting guard again. He's been through three coaches, two star players, front-office upheavel, a stretch where he was hurt and a stretch where his star player was hurt. He has the skills to be a great complimentary player on a good team, but too often had to demonstrate the skills he didn't possess because his team needed those skills. He's never had a coaching staff that has encouraged him to play to his strengths instead of trying to be something he is not.
Wizards fans, does this sound familiar? It should, because we traded for a guy like this four years ago and that guy is now one of our best players.
The similarities between Foye and Caron Butler really are uncanny. First, here's a comparison of some key numbers after three seasons in the league.| Stat | Butler 02-05 | Foye 06-09 |
| Pts/36 | 14.2 | 15.9 |
| PER | 14.2 | 13.5 |
| eFG% | 43.4% | 47.7% |
| TS% | 49.7% | 52.4% |
| REB% | 8.8% | 5.9% |
| AST% | 11.5% | 20.7% |
| TO% | 11.8% | 13.9% |
| Usg% | 20.9% | 22.2% |
Now, it probably doesn't make a ton of sense to directly compare Foye's and Butler's numbers, since they are different type of players, but they also have several other things in common.
For one, their career trajectories are very similar. Butler and Foye both had very promising rookie seasons after being drafted as saivors of sorts for their teams. Butler averaged over 36 minutes a game in his rookie season with Miami, finishing second on the team in scoring with over 15 points a game and was third on the team with a 15.1 PER. Foye only played just over 22 minutes per game, but was a major asset off the bench, averaging 10 points per game and posting a 14 PER with a 53.6 TS%. Both were perhaps the only real bright spots on dull, uninspiring veteran teams.
Both struggled mightly in their second season. Butler saw his playing time squeezed with the pick of Dwyane Wade and had just a 10.7 PER with a dreadful 44% true shooting percentage on the 2003/04 Heat, while Foye got hurt in 2007/08 and only played in 39 games, in which he regressed from his 06/07 start.
Both then showed flashes, but were inconsistent in their third year -- Butler with the Lakers and Foye back with Minnesota. The third-year similarities goes deeper still. Both had one month where they showed that they could potentially be an all-star caliber player. For Foye, it was January. He averaged nearly 20 points per game on 45% shooting in leading Minnesota to a 10-4 record. For Butler, it was April of 2005, after the Lakers dropped out of playoff contention. He averaged nearly 23 points and 7.5 rebounds per game in the nine April contests. The rest of their third seasons was very up and down, with Foye struggling mightly after Al Jefferson got hurt and Butler struggling in February when Kobe was just coming back from injury.
Finally, they both have had stretches where they have played out of position, which has limited their effectiveness. Randy Wittman pigenhoeled Foye as a point guard to start last season, and to put it bluntly, it was a disaster. Foye's numbers as a point guard last season: 12.3 PER, 43% eFG%, 3.9 turnovers/48 minutes, 4.8 fouls/48 minutes trying to guard speedy point guards. Not surprisingly, the Timberwolves went 4-15 under Wittman. Kevin McHale shifted Foye to shooting guard, where he had much more success, posting a 17 PER with a 48.5 eFG% and just 2.2 TO/48. Foye's strong January, in fact, coincided with more minutes at shooting guard. Foye's hot streak leveled off once Al Jefferson got hurt and more teams paid attention to Foye, but there's no doubt he's a better shooting guard than point guard. Butler, meanwhile, has been a small forward most of his career, but the Lakers played him at shooting guard when Kobe got hurt to poor results: 14.7 PER, 41.6 eFG%.
Lots of similarities, right? There's one major difference between Foye and Butler. Whereas Butler needed to go from being a limited role player into an all-purpose guy, Foye needs to go from being an all-purpose guy to a limited role player. Essentially, they need to make opposite transitions.
Let me put it another way. When Butler came to DC, he needed to realize that the best way he could help the team was to excel in multiple areas. He had listened to disciplinarian coaches his entire pro career and needed to become the type of guy that created his own path. He had the skills to be a great all-purpose two-way player, but was coached to be a limited role player. A 2007 SI story on Butler really drove this home.
His instinct for self-preservation seemed to draw him to disciplined, highly structured coaches like Good; Jim Calhoun at UConn, where Butler played for two years; the Miami Heat's Pat Riley, who took Butler with the No. 10 pick in the 2002 draft; and the Lakers' Phil Jackson, who picked up Butler for the 2004--05 season as part of the Shaquille O'Neal trade. After seven years of taking orders and constraining himself for the sake of his teams, Butler was confounded and overwhelmed when the Wizards acquired him to become a star. They needed someone to fill the slot vacated by Larry Hughes and create a new Big Three alongside All-Stars Gilbert Arenas and Antawn Jamison. It took Butler all of the '05--06 season to come to grips with what they were asking of him.
Foye, on the other hand, needs to be coached to be a more limited player that takes advantage of his strengths while minimizing his weaknesses. I'm not going to say he was "annointed" as a star in Minnesota, but certainly he was asked to be a do-everything guy. Whether it was coaching or himself, Foye too often tried to do things he couldn't do.
I asked Stop-n-Pop of Canis Hoopus to tell me a bit about Foye's game. Here's what he e-mailed me.
Foye is a fantastic catch-and-shoot player. Flip will find a good use for this guy. He doesn't have the greatest first step or the best handle but he is something of a bowling ball with tremendous hops and you will come to be very familiar with what we called the Drive Right Kamikaze. He will run down the right side of the lane, jump into the air, contort his body, and float something up towards the rim. It's his signature move and you should hope that you don't have to see it too often because it's often as painful as it sounds.
This highlight clip of Foye shows off his catch-and-shooting a bit. Note how balanced he stays on the shot; very Arenas-like.
So Foye is a good catch-and-shoot player and a poor driver that tends to only go right and doesn't finish well. So here's my question: why are 28% of his shots in close? Foye has a very good perimeter game, with a solid 45.3 eFG% on jumpers last year and an already-noted catch-and-shoot strength. So why does he shoot the same percentage of perimeter shots as Kevin Garnett?
How bad is his in-close game? When you take away his dunks, he shot just a 46.1% eFG% on inside shots. He saw 20% of his inside shots rejected last year, a mark that was three percent higher than any other player in the league. Only 26 percent of his inside scores are assisted, indicating he's often calling his own number and freezing out his teammates. And it's not like Foye is drawing a ton of fouls either; he averaged less than 4 free throws/36 minutes. With him being so bad driving to the basket, there's no reason he should be shooting over a quarter of his shots in close. That speaks to a combination of poor individual recognition, poor coaching and instability over his role.
Going further, Foye's best attribute offensively is to shoot more threes rather than long twos. This is pretty obvious for most people, but it's really striking how much Foye needs to understand this. Britt Robinson of the Rake explored this back when Foye started to struggle last season.
As I mentioned last post, Foye also gets his shot blocked a higher percentage of time on his inside drives to the hoop than any player in the NBA--19%. Consequently, he's most productive from three point territory, with 4.5 points per game outside on 30% of his FGA, versus 4.6 ppg on midrange two-pointers which comprise 41% of his FGA and just 4 ppg on the 29% of his field goal attempts that result in inside drives to the hoop.
And then, here's what SnP said at the end of the season when discussing Foye's lights-out Janaury. There's a lot quoted here, but I think it's all necessary. Emphasis mine.
For the season Foye took roughly 40% of his shots from non-interior 2 point land. 31% of his shots were from beyond the arc. In January, Foye upped his percentage of 3s, taking roughly 39% of his shots from distance. Here's the part where you really, really, really, really hope the Wolves have a solid internal stat keeping department. The question they need to answer for Foye and January is this: Where did those extra 8% of 3s come from? Did they come at the expense of his poor mid-range shooting or kamikaze drives? Either way, it's net gain for the club. We'd have to figure out what other positives (if any) come from him operating in mid-range vis-a-vis the interior, but in terms of his own personal scoring, I'd hope someone is/was/will be encouraging him to get to a 40/40/20 ratio of 3s, interior, and non-interior twos. I'd also hope that they are keeping track of what happens to those blocked shots. If it turns out that the Wolves gather about a 1/3 of those blocked shots, it would put the Randy Kamikaze Success Rate above 50%...which would be a very nice thing to have near the end of a game or quarter.
Randy Foye is never going to be Brandon Roy. What he can be is the type of player who played in January. He doesn't even need to shoot the lights out from three for this style of play to work. Let's spread out the 40/40/20 concept over 1000 shots (he took 981 this year) and realistic shooting percentages. This means that Foye would take 400 threes, 400 inside shots, and 200 non-inside two pointers. Taking his current .491 inside shooting percentage, .374 career three point percentage, and .384 non-inside 2p%, he would make 196 inside shots, 150 threes, and 77 non-inside twos. To put this in perspective, he took 308 threes, 275 inside shots, and 398 non-inside twos this season; making 111 threes, 135 inside shots, and 153 non-inside twos. In January, he likely came close to the 40/40/20 split (we don't have the break down for month-by-month) that turned him into a wildly effective player off the ball. 400 threes and 400 kamikaze drives are the goal next season for Foye. The following chart is a break down of Foye's 08/09 season and our ideal 40/40/20 campaign in a 1,000 shot season:
08/09 1000k total shots 981 1000 3s (makes/attempts) 111/308 150/400 inside (makes/attempts) 135/275 196/400 non-inside twos (makes/attempts) 153/398 77/200
In other words, if Foye stuck to the 40/40/20 model, he would be on track to score 996 points/1000 shots (.996 pts/FGA), which would be an improvement over the .926 pts/FGA he made this year (not including FTA/FTM). This is the part of January called shot selection, shot selection, shot selection. It's also called threes, threes, threes and volume in the right spots.
Basically, SnP's trying to say that Foye becomes a way more efficient offensive player if he changes his shot selection. Personally, I think Foye needs (and will get) an even more lopsided split that he suggests, shooting even more threes and driving even less. SnP proposes 40-40-20, I'd like to see 50-35-15. On this team, while getting many minutes alongside Arenas and Butler, I think it's possible to see a more lopsided split.
If Foye can be coached to change his shot selection, suddenly he becomes an unbelievably valuable third guard. In fact, I'd venture to say that no team will have a better third guard next year than Foye. Maybe Detroit if Ben Gordon comes off the bench. That may not mean much, but on a team that's lacked bench scoring, Foye can be the perfect guy to help take the scoring load off the Big 3. And while his defense is a problem if he's playing 35 minutes a game, in 24 minutes as a third guard, that limitation becomes less important.
Now, this might mean an end to the Nick Young express, which will disappoint many. But in Foye, I see a guy who has flashed way more potential to be the role-playing third guard than Nick has. Young is only now learning how to shoot off screens. Young still shoots too many midrange shots, still doesn't catch-and-shoot and still bogs down the offense. Foye, at least, has shown that he doesn't need to do that. Yes, Foye is up for a new contract after next year, but Young will be up for one the season after that, and both will command similar salaries. Long-term, I'd like to see the Wizards keep Foye and either trade Young or develop Young to be a long-term role-playing starting shooting guard, which will allow us to move Mike Miller for something better or let him walk to re-sign Foye and Brendan Haywood.
Again, the similarities between Foye's career path and Caron Butler's are eerie. We need Foye for a completely different purpose than Butler, but both have misused their skills and have been poorly coached. With good coaching and a change of emphasis, Foye, like Butler, will be a tremendous asset to the team both for next year and in the future.
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Great stuff as always
Foye could be a great asset off the bench or starting at the two, depending on Flip Saunders does with the rotation. And depending on how Arenas looks when he comes back, Foye should see plenty of minutes. I’ll be glad if he comes to Washington and starts to perform anything like Butler did.
Well done but...
I don’t think it has to be one or the other. This team has space for both Nick and Randy. Offensively we can be great.
by Danyon Rome on Jul 26, 2009 8:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Good write up
my only concern is that, for some reason, I thought Foye was more of a slasher. I know he’s known for his jumpshooting, but I didn’t know he was bad at going to the basket. I’m hoping Butler rediscovers himself, and Arenas as well, this year. They have both morphed into jumpshooters recently. We need more people going to the hole, especially with our lack of inside scoring. It’d be nice to get OTHER teams’ bigs in foul trouble.
If anything, I think you made more of an argument to keep Young, as he seems to be the only natural slasher we have, sans Butler.
But Young doesn't slash either
83% of his shots were jumpers last year, and he also isn’t a great finisher (51% on non-dunks).
If Arenas is healthy, he’s our slasher. Let’s hope he’s healthy.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Yes, but
he IS a slasher. They just didn’t use him that way. The Princeton offense seems to turn guys into jump shooters .He does lose a lot of his balls on the way to the rim, something he needs to improve on. I’ve mentioned this on here before.
51% on non-dunks
Most of those are actually dunk attempts. He seems to just lose the ball on his way up. I don’t know if he has small hands (a la Kwame) or what, but he always gets to the rim WITHOUT the ball.
Under Eddie, we always drew a ton of fouls and scored a very high percentage of our points at the line. Even with Arenas out in 07/08, we were 11th in the league in free throws attempted per field goal attempt.
The numbers may indicate that in the end, but I rarely recall seeing the other teams big men in significant foul trouble, and I definitely recall us resorting to jumpshots at the end of the shot clock.
We'll just have to disagree about Young
In my book, if you struggle to finish at the rim, you aren’t a slasher. He’s a jump-shooter and I don’t think it’s the Princeton that does it. If anything, the Princeton will make him seem like more of a slasher than Flip’s “come off screens endlessly” offense. I wish I had some comparative numbers in a different system, but I don’t, so we’ll just have to see if things change and your instinct proves true.
You may be right that we shot a lot of jumpers, but that’s probably because we shot a lot of shots period. Plus, every team shoots jumpers at the end of the shot clock. From 04/05-06/07, we never finished lower than eighth in free throws attempted per field goal.
I’d guess that changes this year and we’ll end up more in the middle of the pack, because Flip’s teams tend to be jump-shooting clubs. Not to mention that I doubt Arenas shoots as many FTs as he did in the past.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
I guess we'll
have to wait and see as the season progresses. The guy has a knack for getting to the rim. He just doesn’t cradle the ball very well, something that can be worked on. And he generally seems to WANT to go to the rim (albeit mostly to dunk on someone), whereas a guy like Rip Hamilton is looking for space to get off a jump-shot.
But I think I should have predicated by statement by saying Young is a SCORER, first and foremost. Meaning he’s looking to score anyway he can, and a jumpshot is obviously the easiest way to get a shot off, which would explain (to me at least) why his jump-shooting percentage is higher. I’d be willing to bet that most scorers have a higher jump-shooting percentage. Unless, of course, they have no jumper to speak of.
As for the offenses, I can’t speak to Flips, as I haven’t paid close enough attention to it. But I do know that the Princeton offense, at least the version we ran, had the ball at the top of the key deep into the shot clock most of the time, which virtually ensures a jump-shot. I hope that’s not the case this year. Jump-shooting teams do not last until the end.
The other thing is that
Under Eddie, we always drew a ton of fouls and scored a very high percentage of our points at the line. Even with Arenas out in 07/08, we were 11th in the league in free throws attempted per field goal attempt.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Nice job
So should Foye be purely a SG, or does that distinction not matter?
I think he should
Or at the very least, he shouldn’t be the primary ballhandler.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Great post
I’m more intrigued by Foye than Miller, too, and the role he’ll play is going to be one of the most interesting subplots of the season. Personally, I’d like to see him as a Delonte West-type starting shooting guard, who can score a bit but who focuses primarily on threes and defending the opponents best guard, since I think that Gilbert’s defense is going to be a glaring weakness for us, to the point where I think that he’ll make it almost impossible for us to beat Boston in the playoffs.
Also, I think that the arguments made about Foye learning to do less could also be applied to Miller. Mike Miller’s one of the top shooters in the league and he’s a very good rebounding wing, but he’s also extremely turnover-prone and a bad defender when he plays shooting guard, and I’d really like to just see him catch and shoot, rebound, and back up Caron this year.
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by les boulez bomber on Jul 27, 2009 12:23 AM EDT reply actions
If Foye can't be a pg
We should make a roster move for a backup pg. Foye and Miller already at the 2 push nick to unusable and we’ve got Stevenson behind him. I think Flip is going to try and make him a pg and if it doesn’t work out by midseason I expect him and or others to be shipped out. If Foye isn’t a backup PG I don’t want to go into the season with J Critt as our only back PG.
I honestly think we'll see a lot of Miller and Foye together
With Miller handling the ball more and Foye running off screens. You could do the same with Butler. Then, you have no traditional PG, but you have Miller/Butler as facilitators.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
miller/foye
I’d be shocked if Arenas, Miller, foye and Foye, Miller,Butler isnt a staple for them since the wizards coaching staff is the timberwolves.
by therunninghamster on Jul 27, 2009 2:58 AM EDT reply actions
Fine analysis...
Both Miller and Foye are fine additions, but while Miller’s upside is essentially known, Foye at age 25 is as you point out, Mike, at a defining moment in his career.
I think he is undoubtedly motivated to shake off the Roy comparisons, and if he is deployed primarily as a 2-guard who can both catch-and-shoot and handle the ball, he could be an amazing complement to Gilbert.
maybe
great article!
i wonder if the stats tell the whole story. the only team i really follow is the bullets, so don’t know anything about the Wolves. Didn’t they really stink? if so, maybe Foye had no choice but to drive to the basket more often than he really wanted to due to a lack of options. Thus the poor numbers. On a better team his stats might look a whole lot better.
just a thought.
Start him
This post (which was fantastic work) solidifies my belief that Foye should start alongside Arenas. I didn’t realize what an excellent 3 pt. shooter he is in his own right.
I wonder if his assist % on drives to the basket could go up on a team with the offensive firepower that Washington has. It’s a little easier to kick it out on a drive to the hoop when you’ve got shooters like the Big 3 to get it to.
Even though he excels at SG, I really like the fact that has shown that he can fill in on ballhandling duties. When you factor in Miller, that’s a lot of looks we can throw at opponents in terms of initiating the offense.
Very interesting
Okay, you’ve gotten me excited about at least watching this guy and seeing how he develops. If he follows Caron’s trajectory (and Gil is healthy), then the Wizards will be an elite team that will challenge Orlando. That would be four weapons on the perimeter who can exploit the double-team, a center who can finish around the basket and anchor the only-okay defense, and a tremendously deep bench (Critt, Young, Miller, Blatche, and Epic Vale, with Oberto, Stevenson, and Taser providing additional defense when needed).
I haven’t been viewing Foye as anywhere close to that sort of missing piece, since his career has been so lackluster thus far. But you’re right, the same was absolutely true about Caron. If this guy can find his role and really blossom on a team that is no longer asking him to do too much, then all of a sudden (health permitting) this is a squad without a lot of weak points.
Could be a very interesting season.
You guys definitely got the better end of the trade so far, I’m expecting a playoff berth.
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by sw12 on Jul 27, 2009 1:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Thanks, But We Have Higher Goals
If we had made no moves and simply gotten healthy, I would expect a playoff berth. With a new and better head coach, a new and better coaching staff, a loss of our weak-link players and the addition of some solid contributers, I am hoping for an EC Finals appearance. We’ll see.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
Hey
He got the Timberwolves to the conference finals, so it’s not like I’m asking him to do something he hasn’t done before (yet).
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
I'm now more concerned than before
The similarities in the career paths of Butler and Foye are striking, but that alone isn’t enough to get me excited. In fact, after seeing that breakdown of his shooting efficiency, I’m even more concerned than before about Foye. I think it’s a definite warning sign when a young SG is so ineffective near the basket. He looks more like a 3-point shooting specialist than anything else. If we’re going to have a 3-point shooting specialist, I’d like one who is also a lockdown defender, not an undersized SG.
I don't get that conclusion
Foye strikes me as a Vinnie Johnson-type. A top-notch third guard who will struggle because of his limitations if pressed into any further duty. Good teams need guys like that off their bench. I don’t think he’s only a three-point specialist because he can handle and pass quite well. He may not finish well around the rim, but he does more things than shoot threes. There’s more to his offensive game than scoring; I only brought those numbers out to indicate he can become a much more efficient scorer if he changes his shot distribution.
Now, one could argue Nick Young’s a better fit than Foye, but I disagree with that line of thinking as indicated in the piece. And I don’t think it’s essential to have our third guard also be our perimeter stopper because we can find a better defensive wing to pair with Arenas than Miller (who’s a good stand-in for a year until we get something better).
Essentially, the question to me is whether you prefer Young or Foye to be our third guard. To me, Foye’s proven that he’s more versatile in the NBA than Young. He’s proven that he can tailor his game at times to be a more effective player than Young. He’s a better catch and shoot guy than Young. Etc.
I’d guess you’d rather have Young than Foye, which I understand, but disagree with.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Obviously you know the way I lean...
But I’m willing to wait until February to make a decision between Foye and Young (because, ultimately I believe that is the decision the Wizards will have to make)
Foye, despite the experiment in Minnesota, is not a Point Guard… Instead, he’s a 6’4" Shooting Guard. After 3 years in the League, I think that he’s established what kind of player he is (and will continue to be). He may become a more efficient scorer, but his track record so far says otherwise (TS% down each year, 53.6 to 52.0 to 51.7 last year). Foye certainly has the advantage over Nick Young in assists… but I would expect someone playing PG for most of 2 years would have higher assists than a pure SG. Even you admitted he’s not a good defender. (On the other hand, both Hollinger and DraftExpress say that Foye is an aggressive, above average defender – so I’ll have to wait to see for myself.) I am worried how he’ll defend some of the bigger SG’s that like to post up (Joe Johnson, Vince Carter, Andre Iguodala, etc…) or against the big guards that can just rise up over him (Mickael Pietrus, Brandon Roy, Tracy McGrady, etc..)
As for Young, he’s posted higher per-40 scoring numbers at higher shooting percentages and higher TS% than Foye. All of YOung’s shooting percentages went up from his Rookie year (not much, but they did go up). He’s a better defender than he was as a Rookie – and still learning. (faint praise – but I still hold out hope that Nick can become a stellar defender – MY FAVORITE LINE: “He has the tools”) … Despite popular belief, Young does not turn the ball over much (9.0 TO ratio last year)… And he’s been improving even while playing substantially fewer minutes than Foye – for Coaches that refused to provide consistent playing time.
Young doesn’t rebound much (but neither does Foye). If Nick can turn up the dial on defense; continue to improve his efficiency; pass the ball occasionally and learn Saunder’s Offensive schemes – I think he has a higher upside than Foye; ESPECIALLY since we now have a Coach that seems to be a Teacher, rather than a Principal.
I believe one of them will be gone by next year. But I’m going to wait until February, after I’ve had a chance to see them both play in Flip Saunders system – - – - – before I just swing my vote to Foye, based on stats.
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The arc of his experience so far
Wolves fan here. The short version of Randy Foye’s career thus far:
- He entered the league expected to be a PG project with an uncanny knack for reaching the hoop. As a rookie he won MVP of the summer league largely by blowing past those defenses. No problems close to the basket there.
- During his rookie year, Foye was thought of as an explosive fourth quarter player. On a veteran team that still had (misguided) ideas about making a playoff run with KG, Foye was used mostly as an energy PG off the bench. However, he didn’t have his outside shot going yet. Defenses sagged off Foye back then, knowing he could drive. Outside shooting was a weakness, so….
- During the offseason between years 1 and 2, Foye worked a ton on his shot. The idea was to keep defenses honest, opening up his driving game.
- (Then he essentially missed a year with microfracture surgery, which sucked. Even when he came back that year, his legs weren’t under him. Foye has been nicked for his entire career. It’s not just the knee. I work out with a personal trainer who consulted with him, and Randy had ankle problems. He hated, hated Bosu balance exercises, for example.)
- In the offseason between years 2 and 3, Foye watched a lot of tapes of CP3. He was acting like he intended to become the PG prospect again, but….
- In that role early last year, he again demonstrated that he doesn’t have the court vision to be a first point guard. So, year three saw Foye finally become, simply, an undersized off guard type. Sadly, though, his one conspicuous offensive weakness was now the ability to finish. He had the outside shot a lot of the time, but now his driving ability was much diminished, seemingly.
He’s just about the nicest, most polite pro athlete you’ll ever meet, incidentally. Unfailingly. He and Ryan Gomes are absolute class acts.

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