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Wait just a minute on that trade.

OK, so I've been thinking about this for about a week, but it was part 1 of Prada's latest post that spurred me into writing this.  In it, he talks about the way the young guys were developed last week in Vegas and how he foresees the team seeing what it's got before considering any midseason trades.  As you all know, the Wizards are a little shy on big men, and a trade for one is likely our best option at getting a player that would do anything but take up space on the bench.

What I've had on my mind is that our likely key trading pieces (Stevenson, James) will be of more value to us as we get closer to the deadline.  DeShawn Stevenson's trade value can't get any lower than it is right now.  He's injured, just had a very off year, and has two more years on his contract.  But here's the thing: if he can get healthy this off-season and come back next year and show he's still got some game left in him, his value will go up.  Furthermore, we will more than likely still feel comfortable getting rid of him because of Miller, Foye, and Young all being on the roster (all of them are younger and, arguably, better).  Finally, his contract won't have two more years on it at the time of the deadline, but rather barely more than one.  If he has indeed shown his ability to bounce back from these injuries, then teams looking to lure free agents in the "Summer of Bosh" (that's right, that's what I'm calling it) could be interested in having a good contributor on their roster to show they have the depth to contend, while teams looking for a playoff or championship push might want one more roleplayer to help with that.  As I've said, his value can't get any lower, so we may as well see if it'll get higher before trying to move him.

As for Mike James, his value right now is pretty high.  But there is no reason to move him right now, before injuries and age take their toll on teams that think they have a chance right now.  There are always a few teams that look like they're ready for playoff runs of varying lengths who sputter out before the All-Star Break (look at the Sixers, Suns, and Pistons last year, for starters).  Those teams might see an opportunity to shed some long-term contracts in exchange for guys like James.  They might decide that they're on the other side of the ever-more obvious divide between haves and have-nots in the NBA, and might want to get ready for the Summer of Wade (I can call it that too!).  While Stevenson's value is dependent largely upon his ability to perform on a court, James' value only depends on when his contract expires.  That factor is a constant, as opposed to Stevenson's variable, and so the value on the other side of that equation will remain the same. [Conceivably, it could go up as team finances get more and more dire, but let's just say it's high and will remain that way.]

I've also thought about our young guys, who may or may not be secondary trade options in the eyes of Grunfeld -- that is to say, one of them might get thrown in a deal to sweeten it for someone not too willing to take on one or two older, low-performance players.  I see that group as containing four guys: Andray Blatche, Nick Young, JaVale McGee, and Dominic McGuire (the Mc-G brothers, maybe? lol).  I'm not going to go into specifics about any of them individually, because I think the same basic argument applies to all of them.  Honestly, I think their overall trade value will be going down as we get closer and closer to the deadline.  I've stressed the fact that finances for teams will be getting tighter, and I've also mentioned that there is a ever-larger and ever-more obvious divide between haves and have-nots in the NBA.  Some teams are legit contenders for a championship, and most are legit contendors for the lottery.  Every year, there seem to be fewer and fewer teams that you could call a playoff lock.  What I'm getting at here is that there are going to be very few teams who will be willing to take on any player who isn't going to contribute much now.  The players I've listed all have relatively high upsides, but aren't ready to be key contributors right now.  A team that is pushing for a Finals run might be interested in one of them in a reserve role, and a team with a decent outlook for the next few years might be interested in taking one of them to develop into a sixth man or starter.  It so happens that the group of teams looking to make the push and the group of teams with good finances happens to be about the same (hey, successful teams make money, not strugglers).  So the only guys who would be interested trade partners come mid-season will likely be the Lakers, Celtics, Magic, Spurs, Heat (maybe), Rockets (maybe), and Nuggets (maybe).  Maybe a couple more, but that's my list.  If we were to try to trade any of those young guys right now, we might find more people interested in them, but as owners keep tightening their belts, developing young players will seem like a less and less appealing option for teams.

In conclusion, I say we wait on that trade.  The value of the guys we truly want to get rid of can only go up.  The young guys who could help us create the trade right now will probably be less valuable later on, but with a new coach and an owner unafraid to spend the money needed to win, I don't think any of us want to get rid of those gusy right now.  [Okay, I do want to get rid of Blatche, but I understand that people still want to see him develop fully.]  If we try to trade now, we probably have to get rid of one of our young talents.  If we trade later, we might get away with only disposing of those "toxic assets," to turn a phrase.  That's what I think anyway.  What about you guys?

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Would the Wizards get more value by trading now or trading later?
Now
9 votes
Later
46 votes
They don't need to trade at all. The roster as it is is good enough for me.
11 votes

66 votes | Poll has closed

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correct me if i’m wrong but stevenson and james are on the books for 2 more seasons? if so, who cares about value really, they just need to trade them for ANYONE to get them off the books…i would trade both for a 2nd round pick even just to trim the salaries..crittendon is getting better, foye can play some pg…and we have way too mang sg’s…i’d like to see what young could do being the first sg off the bench, in a jason terry type role…
look if they wanted to package james, stevenson and a 2nd for a decent big man that’s okay too in my book but the sooner we get rid of them, the more $ we’ll have and the more minutes we can have for someone like nick young and crittendon

by terpsfan202 on Jul 20, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Mike James

is on the last year of his contract. Look here for everyone’s contract status.

Look Mr. James, I lived near the Chesapeake Bay for the first 21 years of my life, at times as close as a 5 minute walk. I know about crabs. And let me tell you something about crabs: they travel every time they get in the lane.

by kseandoyle on Jul 20, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks!- in that case they ought to wait, the market for mike james has to grow as the season goes on: someone is gonna want a backup scoring pg for the playoffs…i just hope that whenever they trade james, stevenson is included…
as i said before, trading them away would give our young guards a chance to develop, so while the value you get in return might not be as much (if you sold them during the trade deadline), the value that you get in giving young guards playing time is too high to pass up

by terpsfan202 on Jul 20, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm almost thinking ...

That unless Grunfeld finds a golden ticket opportunity, he will keep James and just let his contract come off the books (‘cause it’d be the penny-pinching thing to do, right?).

Also, I know people, for the most part, are not too fond of James. But honestly, if the Wizards are playing well and in contention, I’m not so sure I trust Crittenton or Foye to handle the backup PG duties over James.

Which makes me now wish we could reverse the trade that netted us James and Crittenton for Antonio Daniels and the return of Memphis’ pick to them

Daniels is almost the low-turnover veteran presence that we will need running the show off the bench next year (as opposed to the scoring focused James — the offense of Foye and Young off the bench provides the scoring punch we need from the backcourt).

And in terms of Crittenton, I like the guy, but have my doubts in this hindsight assessment of that trade.

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by Kyle Weidie on Jul 20, 2009 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I dunno

Daniels really fell off last year after the trade and was abysmal in the playoffs. The Hornets have serious size deficiencies and used ther first rounder on Collison when he would only get 8 minutes a game behind Chris Paul. They then used their second rounder on a 2 guard. If they felt Daniels could handle 8 minutes a game I doubt they would have ignored their frontcourt and drafted Collsion and Thornton. I think Daniels is by far more likely to be the worst of those 3 this season. None of those 3 are confidence inspiring though.

by BayAreaBullet on Jul 21, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course it makes sense to wait

In December the Wizards will have 3 expirings (Foye, Miller, James) that could help shed us of Stevenson while also bringing back an impact player.

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jul 21, 2009 2:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Yep

Plus, by December, a few teams with decent veteran big men will know that their window is over (coughHoustonandNewOrleanscough) at least for this year, and they might be willing to dump someone like Tyson Chandler or, even better yet from a salary point of view, Carl Landry. Actually, Houston is pretty much a perfect trade partner for us right now, since they need someone who can score on the perimeter and we’ve got like six of those types on our roster right now, while they have a bunch of good perimeter defenders and cheap bigs who don’t do much other than rebound and defend.

by pantslessyoda1 on Jul 22, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know about Houston

with Yao out for all of next year and his future beyond that unknown, they probably aren’t interested in giving up any big men. As far as New Orleans, I could see them trading Chandler because they tried to last year, but I wouldn’t qualify them as a team with a “closing/closed window.” They’re young guys who over-achieved a couple of years ago and will be in the playoffs almost every year for years to come. But I don’t think management feels any sense of urgency, since their core players are all still young guys. They are probably fairly willing trade partners, though, because they know that they can improve upon their second-tier guys and role-players. The Nuggets, on the other hand, might be feeling a closing window, as they know the piece that put them over the top last year — Chauncey Billups — probably doesn’t have more than a couple more years of playing at a high level. Does that make them a willing trade partner? Maybe, if they think that we have a piece that could come in handy during the playoffs. But in that case, an expiring contract won’t be that much of a selling point for them, unless Mike James is having some kind of swan song season.

Look Mr. James, I lived near the Chesapeake Bay for the first 21 years of my life, at times as close as a 5 minute walk. I know about crabs. And let me tell you something about crabs: they travel every time they get in the lane.

by kseandoyle on Jul 23, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

good perimeter defenders and cheap bigs who don’t do much other than rebound and defend.

Like Battier

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by Rook6980 on Jul 23, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

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