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Strongest Wizards squad there has ever been .

We did a Great job

we have a good balanced experienced coach now

we turned our duds into studs

in every position we have great starters and great backups

all in all we are just one solid PF/C vet away from being a very very dangerous team

we got some money 2.5 mil to help sign that PF/C Vet

Maybe Flip and Ernie convinced Rasheed/McDysse to play for that money for a year or two

All i know is that this is strongest Wizards squad there has ever been .

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Finally a "glass half full analysis"

Yes we need more depth up front, but we have four months to solve that problem.

Yes Orlando and Cleveland look terrifying now, but there’s not a lot we can do about that.

We’ve gotten a lot better, and there are plenty of prospects to solve our remaining gap now that we have the money and roster spots to do it. Once we’ve done that our biggest problem is finding minutes for our guards – I’m not too worried about that.

So let’s hope for health, take the 3 or 4 seed into the playoffs, and then do some damage.

by RamVA on Jun 26, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Lets go for the 1 seed in the playoffs....

While the Wizards didn’t mortgage there entire future in these last few moves, they are pretty serious about the next 2, maybe 3, years being the last shot for this core group. We can be the top team in the east, when we’re healthy, sure the other teams made upgrades too, but we have too… going from injured bodies to (hopefully) healthy potential all stars.

we really do only need a big man…. mikki moore, mcdyess, joe smith, sheed could do the job

by rzawrecktah on Jun 26, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Cleveland and Orlando don't seem that scary

At least not right now. I think that the Wiz, Cavs, and Magic all need to have at least one more major move to be in a place to really be contenders.

Like the analysts said last night, Cleveland’s move can’t really be judged until we see what else they do. Right now they have Lebron and Shaq, but other than that, they have Mo Williams, Delonte, Boobie, and Big Z. That’s 3 combo guards and a jump-shooting statue. They have no true SG, no PF, and no depth.

As for Orlando, they got Vince, but I can’t say they’re better until we see how things unfold with their free agents. Like a lot of teams that make the finals, there team is falling apart. Turkgolu seems like he’s just going to follow the paper. We’ll see what happens with Gortat. And they traded 3 major contributors for Vince. Turkgolu+Gortat+Courtney Lee+Alston+Battie > Vince Carter.

We may end up being the 3rd, 4th, or 5th seed, but as of June 26, 2009 we are the most complete team in the Eastern Conference. We have 3 All-Stars, a legitimate defensive center, 3 former 1st round prospects. Our former 2nd round prospect might be our most naturally talented player, was straight from high school and is now 22-year old, 5th year vet. Oh, and we also added two starting caliber, versatile sharpshooters. Right now, our biggest hurdles are determining how to manage playing time for so much talent, add a 5th big man, and maybe consolidate some more of our assets into a better player for our 9 man rotation.

by gorebd on Jun 26, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Gilbert Caron Jamison Miller Foye either one of those guys could burst out with a 30 point game on any given night …. that is somthing we never had before ….

plus Young Blatche Mcgee could flirt with a with 20 plus point games on any given night too

we will be a very hard team to stop … teams will have to play us one on one or we will make them pay

by eltacoman on Jun 26, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd put

Nick in with the first group. If his confidence is up, he’s a pure scorer. If Flip can KEEP his confidence up, he could be up for most improved player. Remember the scoring blitz he went on in early January? 2 or 3 30 point games in a row if I remember correctly. One of them he didn’t even get off the bench until the 2nd quarter. If Flip can coax the “professional” out of this kid, he could be a real X-factor. Depending on Arenas’ status, NY could be our best one on one scorer.

by CJHutch on Jun 26, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Half Man - Half High Volume Shooter

I think at this point in their careers, reputation aside, Miller might be much more useful than Carter. If Orlando keeps Turkoglu, how do they manage Lewis, Turk, and Carter at the 2, 3, 4 and keep everyone happy AND productive?

Maybe by agreement of the teams, all Orlando-Washington games next season should use 3 balls at the same time.

If they don’t keep Turk, then this is essentially a Turk+Alston+Lee for Carter trade, which I think is a step back for them overall.

by bwoodsxyz on Jun 26, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

My feeling is

Orlando will be able to pick up some cheap help off their bench to get further to replicate Alston/Lee. It’s not exactly Carter for Hedo, Lee and Rafer. It’s Carter + healthy Nelson + remaining FA pickups + possibly Gortat for Hedo + Alston + Lee. I think it swings to the Carter side under that scenario.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Jun 26, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

being completely objective, I think Carter makes them better. His age hasn’t affected his game enough for me to say that Turkoglu is better. Carter leaves something to be desired on defense, but Turk isn’t making the all defensive team anytime soon either. Turk may be a better pure shooter, but Vince is a better all around scorer, and more used to taking the winning shot.

While Altson was a nice story at the end of the season, Nelson is the better player. the rest were really just spare parts. Gortat is a nice backup for Howard, but he can be replaced. And Lee never really knocked my socks off. I thought his contribution was overblown. I think Pietrus is a better all around player.

by CJHutch on Jun 26, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

The biggest hurdle is health

But yours is a scenario I am willing to buy into once I am over last night’s disappointment.

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Jun 26, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

After that, it's Shaq

We’re probably the least well-equipped to guard him of any contender in the East right now, since only Brendan can even come close to handling him one on one. Dray looked flat out horrible against him, and Javale will probably block one of his hook shots or something but get otherwise schooled all series long. The only other big man left is Antawn who, uh, probably shouldn’t even bother trying.

by pantslessyoda1 on Jun 26, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

the only east team that worries me is orlando. plus we have to see them 4 times a year

if we can sign a gortat then our center rotation we be finished. we could later add a good rebounding PF with some defense for the minimum or deal james.

maybe since gil caron jamison and the wiz will exceed expectations and win the title since they know their window of opportunity is closing

by wizchamp on Jun 26, 2009 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

i also believe that Gilbert Caron Jamison Haywood are really motivated even more now after this trade

we will surpass Orlando especially if they let Hugo go…. he was a major part of there game …. they will really regret letting him go for a declining Vince they also have no depth either

the Celtics have been playing alot of ball with a short roster and there big 3 are getting older.. injury bug might hit them hard next season

i think it will come down to the Wiz and the Cavs fighting for the 1st spot

i can see us beating the Cavs in the eastern finals :)
 
 

by eltacoman on Jun 26, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

What else could Ernie possibly have done

We always get the slew of so called wizards fans jumping off a building after every draft. But when it comes straight down too it what else could have possibly done? What? Trade Jamison for who, I know there were rumors Jamison for Amare, but those were shot down once Butler was a necessary piece for that trade. Really who else on this team is enough of a tradeable asset to make a blockbuster deal. And finally who out there is actually attainable, what blockbuster players are out there that can be traded for. I think the wizards have a decent shot at getting to the eastern conference finals. If haywood or mcgee play well they will have a look much like the orlando magic as a jump shooting team, a team which I think Cleveland is unable to defend.

by tachmelik12 on Jun 26, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

you lost me at

they will have a look much like the orlando magic as a jump shooting team,

This isn’t the rep we want. Teams that live off the outside shot just don’t win. Orlando did it because when they got their head on straight every once in awhile they would feed it to Howard. We don’t have an option like that. The biggest adjustment I hope Flip makes is to drive these guys to drive. Way too many times the last few years we settled for jump shots at the end of the shot clock. While I think this is a direct result of the Princeton ‘O’, it can also be attributed to laziness(or fatigue, depending on how rosy your glasses are)
  Point is, I really hope Flip can get Caron and Gilbert back to slashing, and make sure Young keeps it up. Don’t settle for the jumpshot. Plus, with the amount of wing players we have, a slashing mantra would be a great way to nullify the foul prone bigs like Shaq, Dwight, and Perkins.

by CJHutch on Jun 26, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

its good to hear all the positive comments

the other day after the draft all i heard were complaints and people who left this team for dead.

by theintz on Jun 27, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

were going to surpass expectations and surprise and alot of people

we only need a little more moves to balance our roster with a 5th and 6th big to foul the Shaqs and Howards

were going to light it up next year

by eltacoman on Jun 26, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm inclined to agree with you

my point was more that the “Wizards” (not Bullets) don’t exactly have a stellar history.

by bwoodsxyz on Jun 26, 2009 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

hey you never know maybe this is the season we win it all

a man can have hope lol

but really we are going to light alot teams up

by eltacoman on Jun 26, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

WORD

tired of all the naysayers and pessimist crying about every little thing our front office does, GO ZARDS!!!

by Parks Smith on Jun 26, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Can't say I'm a Wizards fan

but have lived in the area for awhile.

Overall, I think they did a decent job. I don’t like the core of the team as being good enough to ever legitimately challenge for a title, but they don’t have enough young assets on the roster to break up the core without going into a deep rebuild mode. Might as well see if this core can make one final run, and that was the gambit they made.

If guys with Miller and Foye’s skillsets were in this draft, they would’ve been solid top 10 picks. No, neither guy has been as good as expected so far, but you get more proven players that fit into the current “win-now” mode, and in Foye, you still have some upside. The trade by itself was fine, and it fills the shooting and playmaking questions that the roster had at times last year. It also gave them some depth to deal from. This was a weak draft. I didn’t even really love the point guard talent all that much. I’m sure the Wizards may be somewhat kicking themselves with Rubio falling, but he was a bit of a risk. Tyreke Evans doesn’t seem to have that much more of a skillset than Crittenton (he’s more ready to help, sure, but skillset wise, I don’t think Crittenton is that far).

That said, passing on any sort of big man with the 2nd round pick to save cash is sort of eh. They still have to add a big, and more than likely, the MLE will come into play. The chances of finding a far more skilled big man than a 2nd round rookie doesn’t seem that high in this market, assuming the Wizards limited resources. That said, to partly defend the decision here, well, there simply weren’t that many talented big men available at that point. If you assume the docs flagged Blair, which seems likely, then you are looking at Summers, Derrick Brown (Not exactly post players), Brockman and Taylor Griffin (undersized), and a few other guys. Now, I think it’s an eh move as I would’ve gambled on Blair, but I can sort of understand it if they flagged him.

It’ll be crucial for them to land some bodies to rotate in there, and in particularly, some physical bodies. You’ve got some long, lengthy guys (and I get a good laugh hearing Dan Hellie call Brendan Haywood a skilled big – he’s a solid defensive big, but his offensive game is limited). With Blatche, McGee, Jamison, Haywood, you’d like to get a physical aggressive rebounder into the mix. Assuming limited funds, I’m not sure what’s available. Joe Smith did briefly cross the mind.

I think the most crucial thing this coming season may be the development of trading Crittenton. His ability to run the offense, allowing guys like Arenas and Foye to focus on scoring, will be crucial with the way Flip runs the offense, IMO, while allowing Arenas/Foye to guard points and Crittenton to defend the 2. If Crittenton can settle down and be steady, they should be alright and be able to contend for the a 3-5 seed.

by toonsterwu on Jun 26, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Apology/Reaction

Looks like you removed the part about how this is your opinion only and that we as a community have diverse opinions, but I see valid criticism when I see it. Note sure that the comment was directed toward my earlier fanpost, but I agree and you are right that I shouldn’t have made a comment about how “Bullets Forever readers” seem to know better or have the same opinion.

Anyway, I agree with most of what you have said. We are better than last year and this is probably, on paper, the best Wizards (NOT Bullets) team that there has been so far. That said, however, the mere fact that Ernie improved our team does not excuse his failures this offseason. I really think Prada has it right in discussing how Ernie was trying to have it both ways and kind of ended up doing neither thing well.

Ernie wanted to add veterans, but he didn’t want to jeopardize our already screwed up salary situation to do it. So, we got 2 good players who fit our need and allowed us to shed a little salary but we didn’t address our defensive needs and we created a roster imbalance.

Then, Ernie sold our second round pick that could have been used to help fill a need that his earlier move created. No matter your feelings on the trade, selling the pick is indefensible. First, there were players available at #32 who would help address our needs on the front line. Second, the salary of the player slotted at #32 wouldn’t have been much so it was a CHEAP option that fits in with cost cutting. Third, it actually adds more developing youth and that isn’t a bad thing for the 14th and 15th roster spots. Fourth, not selling the pick did not in any way impair our ability to add an impact veteran to our front line with our last roster spot. Fifth, selling the pick didn’t make it any easier to sign that veteran because it AT BEST pays for 1 year of the veteran’s salary (veteran’s minimum * 2 due to luxury tax).

So, after Ernie committed us to paying the luxury tax at the trading deadline last year, he then refused to add additional salary to make us ALOT better, and instead added cheaper talent that still made us better. Then, instead of spending just a little bit of money on a player that could help us short term and maybe even long term in Blair he cheaped out and sold the pick. Those $2.5mil are chump change (its not even 5% of our current salary being paid) and will have to be spent on ONE YEAR of a player maybe as good as Blair instead of THREE YEARS of Blair. Ernie tried to have it both ways in the trade, then he tried to have it both ways by selling the pick – in the end he will have it neither way because we are still paying the luxury tax and selling #32 will cost us more than trading Blair would have (especially if 3 years down the line we sign some bum like Chris Wilcox for 3mil/yr)

by Manimal Smith on Jun 26, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Blair

The thing is, I don’t think Ernie thinks Blair would help the Wizards next year. I think he’d much rather have a McDyess or Joe Smith. I’m beginning to like the added flexibility that we’ve gotten this week. I like having 2 roster spots available with a few more expiring contracts. For the first time in several years, we can actually sign a free agent. So I’m ok with passing over Blair. I keep thinking Lonnie Baxter is a comparable guy to Blair.
Now if we don’t spend some money getting a veteran big guy, I will be upset.

by hotplate on Jun 26, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I believe

the overall thinking on Blair is he is a big STRONG body that could’ve been had on the cheap. Much cheaper than any vet coming in. And he could be a puzzle piece for years. As for this year, think it through. You’d like to think that we have our normal rotation on this roster already. If we add a Chris Anderson or someone else similar, then he will fit in there between 7 and 10. And since most of us think we will, and should, add two bigs, it’s more likely the 2nd guy will be at the end of the rotation. Otherwise he starts cutting into minutes allotted for Blache or McGee. So why not let that guy be a low cost youngster who knows his role and is eager to prove himself?

by CJHutch on Jun 26, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

sheed

kinda torn on rasheed. i would love to see his basketball presence here, but his personality is not like the rest of the team. bu tthen again flip has delt with him before

by theintz on Jun 27, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

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