Open thread 2: The NBA Draft
by Mike Prada on Jun 25, 2009 8:30 PM EDT
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The 'Trade'
It hurts now ..
But opinions can easily change …..
I still have hope for the team we have.
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I'm still excited about the trade...
I mean, not having Rubio sucks, but I’m buying into what we have now and hopefully we’ll get a big man.
not
a fan of Jennings. Sounded like a b*$%h in his interviews. And couldn’t get on the floor in Italy.
That picture hurts Prada
Ok so lets start taking bets on whether we sell the #32 pick. What are the current odds?
No one has taken Blair yet
I’m just sayin’…
More likely than not, there will be someone worth taking at 32. Mills would make sense, as would anyone over 6’10 who can move. Can’t imagine us trying to guard Shaq with a rotation of Blatche, Haywood, and McGee.
by pantslessyoda1 on Jun 25, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
its so hard to still have hope
still feel the need for another move if we think we’re gonna have any sort of chacne.
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I think you already know the answer to that question.
Dumb. Impatient. Short-sighted.
At best, Miller and Foye will be the team’s 4th and 5th best players, more likely the 5th and 6th best players. In time, Rubio could have been the 2nd or 3rd best player on the team.
I hear you
But the key is “in time.” We are supposed to win now. Now, there’s nothing wrong with thinking we need to rebuild or plan for the future, but I think that trying to win in the next 2-3 years is just as valid an approach.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure
It’s no guarantee that Rubio will even be as good as Miller or Foye this year so I’m not angry but I’m not happy. Rubio could be an allstar in a few years and that’s when it’ll probably hurt a lot more.
be realistic
we’re not winning this year with Foye and Miller. So this year doesn’t matter. We MAY get the 5 seed. 4 would be a reach.
In that case
We may not have won this year if we had Rubio. You honestly think that Rubio is already better than Foye AND Miller and would help us reach the top by himself? All I’m saying is there’s no guarantees.
we are screwed… rubio would have been amazing, ernie grunfield probably feels like a retard after rubio went 5th
Kid's 18
As Mike Jones (who?) put it:
It’s easy right now if you’re a Wizards fan to feel a twinge of regret seeing Rubio slide to five, but given the Wizards’ situation, which includes already having an All-Star point guard in Gilbert Arenas, and Rubio’s agent not wanting him to go anywhere other than a place where he could run the show, perhaps they were better off.
Rubio is a gamble. He is. He’s not a sure thing. The other important element here: Rubio can’t shoot. Nash could shoot from day one, as could Pistol. All the comparisons are not only premature, but ridiculous. Look at what Ainge has been saying about his Oscar-like point guard: he killed us in the Orlando series because he could be left WIDE open so they could double up on our better guys.
I like where we are at, and I’ll like it even more once Ernie makes his next move. Ernie is a lot better at this than we are. :)
The East is OPEN
eff Shaq .. eff Vince Carter
It’s someone else’s turn to experience a ton of injuries
EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS BABY!!!!
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That's more like it!
Plus, we don’t know how healthy Shaq will be come April, nor do we know how well Vince Carter will mesh with the Magic. He’s a good passer, but they could use a pure distributor.
by pantslessyoda1 on Jun 25, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Right now I’d say the Wizards have as good a shot at the #4 seed as any other team. And it’s possible they’ll end up better. Personally, while I liked the trade, I’m on the fence now knowing that we could’ve gotten Rubio. But at least for the next couple years the Wizards will be a better team undoubtedly because of the trade. And who knows how good this team can be…
by Johnnie Futbol on Jun 25, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Realistically
Rubio has the potential to be truly great… All-Star level talent. Potentially 1st Team All-NBA…
but
It will take some time…. Like when the Wizards traded the 5th pick for Antawn Jamison (and the 5th pick was Devin Harris)
AND Devin Harris became a very good player… but it took 4 years (his 3rd year, he was only averaging 10 points, and 3.7 assists)
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
if we
don’t hold out to see ho drops, I’m going to throw up. Should’ve learned our lesson anyway. ’Sides, we could still pick Patty Mills.
Ernie's going to need to pull one of the top 8 players in the draft
with the second round pick in order to save his butt for the Rubio error.
Terrence Williams?
Really? At 11?
After Rubio slipping and the Wolves taking 2 PGs, I kinda wonder if someone spiked the water bottles in the draft rooms …
Hey, I'd rather be competitive AND have spending money next year
Than to be selling our top players like New Jers.
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Great
We are not settling for being one of the worst 10 teams in the league.
Congrats – your 2009/2010 Washington Wizards
by Manimal Smith on Jun 25, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I could only feel worse right now if.....
we had gotten the 18th pick and Blair was taken 17th
the curse
wont go away unless we change our name and logo. its time for the change!
Same here
Plus, we wouldn’t even really need him, since he could only play power forward. We really just need another tough guy who can slide to the 5 occasionally.
by pantslessyoda1 on Jun 25, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
attempting to post my first pictures...
and
"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King
Why are you guys so pissed about Rubio?
Curry would have been a much better fit for the Wizards. Rubio is a gimmick, a diva, and a punk. Weren’t you here for….shit, I can’t even remember his name now! Navarro. He was over-hyped and a whining baby too.
Same here
It’s a shame the Bobcats wouldn’t though.
by pantslessyoda1 on Jun 25, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
But I thought...
Jordan was making decisions for the Bobcats…
"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King
i guess there were alot of trades earlier
but im kinda suprised there have been no trades at all throught the first 12 picks.
with the exceptions of ernies blunder. so, basically, draft day trades.
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you can always count on knicks fans
first overrated chant of the night is well deserved.
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Jamison gets no love
It’s not right. He carried this team two years ago, and just couldn’t get them over the hump this year because no Haywood…by hump I mean win a few in the playoffs.
Okafor has a suspect back ... Jamison is a WARRIOR!
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It was either there
or Utah for Hansbrough. :)
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
hehe
Maybe they cut Hibbert, then we can swap Miller for Granger and purify both of our teams.
by pantslessyoda1 on Jun 25, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I love me some Granger
I remember when people slammed that pick.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no problem with the trade except....
We don’t know the exact nature of the trade talk between Minnesota and Wash prior to the trade, or if any team knew that Sacramento was gonna pass up Rubio, so i’m speaking on this matter without knowing all the facts, but on its face, Grunfeld half-blew this trade.
It looks like David Kahn (minn’s GM) got the better of Grunfeld at the poker table.
It’s clear now that Minn reallllyyy wanted Rubio.
Grunfeld should have recognized that and kept this pick until Rubio slipped to the Wiz.
He then would have been in a much more powerful bargaining position with Rubio in our pockets. Minn surely would have at least taken Stevenson and maybe even given back the 18th pick as well. Or there might have been more lucrative offers for Rubio than what Minn was willing to offer.
If we had of kept this pick and used it on someone i would’ve rather had stephen curry than Rubio. Rubio is a much more high risk/high reward pick in my opinion.
Hindsight is always 20/20
I do think we got proven commodities that can help our core right away, which Ernie is clearly trying to do because of Abe.
I also think that the Wiz are not done wheeling and dealing
Yeah, if you want to speculate though ...
… let’s assume the Wizards know they could have taken Rubio at 5, and decided they prefer Miller/Foye, which is not out of the realm of possibility.
You could look at it the other way … Grunfeld acted fast, so that he took advantage of Minnesota’s desire to get Rubio at 5 even though there was no way of guaranteeing a team ahead of them didn’t pick him or trade the pick to someone who would.
Second-guessing is easy.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Think about this, though
What will you be kicking yourself over — missing the chance to draft Rubio, or missing the chance to pick up Miller and Foye?
saying Kahn got Gruns on the river?
Then I don’t take away from Gruns.
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In Ernie's defense
If we drafted Rubio or Curry, could we sign them and still get a big with the MLE and still have room to sign Haywood and Butler?
Wait
Golden State just got Amare? Golden State?
The best Golden State had to offer was Biedrins, and we could have given them Butler. Ugh.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Oh, okay, nevermind
Sound’s off here.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
That's been rumored since before the draft started ...
… but I don’t know that it’s confirmed.
But yes, Steve Kerr is running that franchise into the ground … below sea level
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
That makes a helluva lotta sense
Ernie thought Minnesota was as dumb as I did. Wait, they drafted two point guards.
What is Brandon Jennings doing there?
Hah!
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
he's
a punk. Wanted to get on TV, but didn’t wanna be there before hand so he wouldn’t get embarassed if he didn’t get picked high.
this is a different league
Do you think he can keep up with the likes of rose, rondo, brooks, paul, and other speedy pg’s that are popping up all over the nba?
I think he should be ok
He seems to have the size to defend some shooting guards, too.
by pantslessyoda1 on Jun 25, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
He did in the Olympics, if you recall.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
jennings.
way to tell younger kids to not get an education.
“milwaukee? really, who wants to go to milwaukee?”
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Curry will start sooner
You saw Rubio’s arms, right? And those globetrotter passes? Please. Kobe would take that crap from you every time. He has no jumper, and won’t be able to play defense. How many all-league Euros are there? Two, maybe three? And that’s stretching.
by Unselds on Jun 25, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Just saying
Although the thinking that Ernie should have had Rubio in hand first makes a lot of sense.
thread 2. ooooooooh.
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions
and show his highlights
like the no-look pass to Jeff Malone for the fading out-of-bounds 3 to win the game
by 7Swords of Salat on Jun 25, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The Post's poll on this ...
… is practically 50-50 Rubio vs. Miller and Foye.
Interesting. Not sure it seems that even here.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Have you read the comments on Wizards Insider?
It ain’t a Mensa club.
That's true but...
I’m shocked at the hype over an 18 year old player. He’s not exactly LeBron, yet I’ve heard things on various boards like he’s a once-in-a-lifetime talent. Really? He’s Chris Paul good? For that matter he’s Jameer Nelson or Rajon Rondo good? If he’s not that good then he will essentially be Foye good. In reality, there is a huge chance he will be a complete bust, the next Darko.
The truth is we can’t afford another Kwame and assuming he’s healthy he would be a project behind our best player (assuming he’s healthy.) Meanwhile we had a huge gaping hole at 2 guard. That hole is now filled with capable NBA players. Not only that we ditched Etan’s contract that seems like good work to me.
by NeverNervousPervis on Jun 25, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The Rubio Difference
is that this kid was running his national team, a very good one, by the time most kids are gettiing their learners permit.
I think he’s Jason Kidd / Tony Parker caliber…
by ucantstopbernard on Jun 25, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing I am actually most upset about
Is that now I feel like I have to root against Rubio. I don’t want to do that …
i know how you feel
cuz im a big fan of jonny flynn too.
but i wont be rooting against those two. just against the wolves in general.
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Mocks
have us getting Chase Buttinger at 32. Would be a damned good pick if we didn’t have so many wings
Not a huge Budinger fan
Again, I watch most AZ games. I’d like him if we had Rubio and no Miller/Foye at 32, but right, now now.
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
*not
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Budinger is a good pick at #32, except ...
That the Wiz have that pick. Budinger is COMPLETELY redundant.
by Manimal Smith on Jun 25, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Right
Soft, no killer instinct. I wouldn’t trust him with the game on the line.
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Solid Point
Thats the best way to rationalize this at the moment.
by Manimal Smith on Jun 25, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Austin Daye's dad was drafted by the Bullets...
Is that kid’s career doomed?
190 Pounds!!!! JESUS!!!
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by Kyle Weidie on Jun 25, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Why did Phoenix go Earl Clark over Jrue???
ARe they satisfied with Dragic?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
Earl Clark produced in college?
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
No, just high on Clark
They think he is Lamar Odom
by Manimal Smith on Jun 25, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
They are gonna need some front court help
lost Shaq and Amare soon
by 7Swords of Salat on Jun 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Clark a lot
I don’t like Jrue. Mayve they thought best player available
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely
I mean, everyone is saying he might only last a couple of years. But isn’t that what Ernie wants anyway?
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't quite say that
The roster is just unbalanced with an enormous amount of guards and lack of front court players.
Ernie Grunfeld is a much better GM than Steve Kerr.
Kerr waving the white flag/rebuilding.
Hey Steve, if Amare was healthy you would have been a playoff team.
I miss Stephen A Smith...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvJGghOuFlQ&feature=response_watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
Not a fan of Stephen...
or that damn sock. (Though, could have worked if the puppet master was funnier)
"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King
Jrue Holiday
His highlights look like normal Nick Young plays. I don’t get it.
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions
Could Lawson be this year's Chalmers?
Wish I was doing all of this dreaming about five Big Babies, but the Forwards are few and far.
Lawson to Wolves
Then they can trade Kevin Love for Mike Conley, Al Jefferson for Steve Nash and then play 4 corners and unplug the shot clock
damn
I gotta go to work. It’s been fun guys. THIS is the excitement I was talkin about. Too bad we don’t get to partake.
Ernie on Washington Post Live today
Ernie was interviewed on Washington Post Live at about 5 PM, here’s my transcript of his Rubio comments:
Ivan Carter: Did you feel there was a chance that Ricky Rubio may fall to the 5 spot?
Ernie: Well he may fall there, we don’t know. We know that 3,4 players may have gotten there but if its Ricky Rubio or anybody else, I don’t think anybody at the 5 spot would have come anywhere close to helping us as much as these 2 players (Miller and Foye)
He would have said the same thing had effin' Blake Griffin slipped to 5
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Thats a bit harsh
Its definitely true that NO ONE knows who well help a team next year OTHER than griffin.
by Manimal Smith on Jun 25, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Facetious ... my word of the day.
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grunfeld is right
rubio would be great to have, but the Wizards are trying to win now. Given that you have to make the trade. they very well could field the best Wizards team in several decades next year. how do you not try to make THIS team as good as it possibly can be?
by Johnnie Futbol on Jun 25, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
All of Ernie's comments about how everything is about who will help the Wizards this season
Makes me wonder whether his job might be on the line. I imagine Abe is none too patient at his age.
I think Abe’s age might have something to do with it, but I don’t get the sense grunfeld’s job is on the line. they did just win 19 games though.
by Johnnie Futbol on Jun 25, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
?
What Grunfeld is saying is that he would have made the same trade if he had the #2 pick. “Three or four payers may have gotten to 5, but we don’t think any of them would help as much as Miller and Foye.”
Who are we hoping falls to #32?
Heylvelt?
Carrol?
Lawson
haha. then keep him or trade him for someone good
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions
...nevermind
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Minnesota?
What the hell are they doing?
A third Point Guard?
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
Ty Lawson is the one they'll keep
and they’ll be better for it. Just watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
Someone made the Matt Millen joke ...
… where I am.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Why are none of the ESPN guys screaming "THERE WILL BE A TRADE!" ??
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In Chad Ford's draft analysis...
After Johnny Flynn was picked, “Two PGs? Something must be going on.”
After Ty Lawson was picked, “Denver’s pick. Good backup to Billups.”
"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King
I hope no trade comes
If there is no trade, then this is comedy magic
hahahahahahaha
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions
crowded backcourt now
Johnson, Bibby, Crawford, Teague
by 7Swords of Salat on Jun 25, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Bibby not coming back
This must mean that.
by Manimal Smith on Jun 25, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what I was thinking
but he’s the only true PG on the team.
by 7Swords of Salat on Jun 25, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is good for us
No way the Hawks are anywhere near as good next year subbing a true PG for a chucker in Crawford
by Manimal Smith on Jun 25, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
JOhnson can play point
But this is good news. I think we can jump ATL next year.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no Chalmers
because things went into free fall at 2, when Thabeet was taken way too high. Then all those guards! No physical specimens of intimidation in this draft, for sure.
Mini Poll: Nick Young to draft Blair?
Who would trade Nick Young to trade up to get DaJuan Blair?
I am torn myself …
right
I’d prefer to ditch Deshawn
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
No way
We can’t get someone to take Deshawn at this point.
by Manimal Smith on Jun 25, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely
NY and the 32 right now
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
My biases say no
Because I really want to see him succeed. But NY is redundant on this team as constructed now.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
marijuana will be legalized before the wizards ever get the veteran “big man” they’ve desperately needed for the past decade! lol
Nice pick.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Blair only needs to fall .. 12? more picks
YES WE CAN
They just showed that stupid 6 Flags commercial where they show something boring and say “One Flag,” and then the rollercoasters and say, “Six Flags.”
Miller and Foye — one Flag
Rubio — six Flags
Where do I sign up for that?
Coutn me in, no way the salaries match though I think.
by Manimal Smith on Jun 25, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Nick Young
Has so much potential. That’s why I kinda don’t want to trade him. I guarantee Young would end up averaging at least 15ppg, 5 rebounds, 4 assists, and would somehow take defense seriously once he left us.
Haywood + James for Chandler + pick?
We take Blair and hope Chandler stays healthy?
No trading Haywood
I floated this trade on Twitter a couple days ago: James + Young + Critt for Chandler. The problem is the Hornets need bigs.
I dunno: James + Critt + Blatche for TC?
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
No.
I think Blatche will play well this year. Chandler < McGee
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Not much, but those guys are at least bigs
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
no Haywood
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Danny Green/Patty Mills/Omri Casspi/Calathes/Blair
=trade value?
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions
Blair's floor
Chicago?
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:34 PM EDT reply actions
He'll fal to 32
And we’ll sell the pick. Ugh.
hahahaha!
I would leave forever.
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Right
There’s 0.1% chance he falls to us.
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Collison is a solid player - and can contribute right away
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
He'll be very similar to what Mario Chalmers did for Miami last year
Same kind of player
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
But when is he going to play with Chris Paul also there?
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Portland traded up for that pick.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
I think Omri goes.
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahaha oops
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
If Blair is there at 28, Ernie needs to call the T-Wolves, and say, you owe me one. Give me that pick.
Okay - does Sacto want/need Blair?
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions
They picked Teague
but I still think they need a backup PG – perhaps they’ll take Nick Calathes and stash him in Greece – or maybe McClinton from Miami
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
The dude is pretty sick.
Could be special in a couple years
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
I know
And it would be so cool if we can come out of it feeling great. Right now it’s like tasting Pepsi throwback… warm… it’s good, but it coulda been better
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a free agent though, right?
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, he’s 240 with a decent wingspan. he would add size to the team.
by Johnnie Futbol on Jun 25, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Trade Critt + 32 for 24
Dallas needs a backup for Kidd
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions
But don't we need a point guard?
I’m not comfortable with James, and right now I’m not cool with just Foye behind Arenas. Critt is the closest thing we have to a good young true point. I’d rather keep Critt if we can.
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Except Ernie would probably pick another project Center
BJ Mullens
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
I would hope for Blair...
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I was out getting food
Why did the Blazers trade 3 picks for a 2nd rounder?
Do they need to clear cap?
One of you smart guys on here should break down what teams need to clear cap space to sign free agents.
Possible guys that the Wiz worked out
Mullins, Gibson, Heytvelt, Thorton, Christmas
They'll take Blair at 31 though.
If he was to fall that far.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
that team has so much youth and a promising future that I bet they’re scared off by Blair’s knees.
by Johnnie Futbol on Jun 25, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Why couldn't we swap
Why didn’t we swap 32 for 28 in our trade with Minny? it’d be easy to bump up from 28 to here to get Blair.
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
Man I wish
I was in Grunfeld’s head right now. The anticipationi is killing me, it’s killing me I tell ya!
I watched every OSU game this year
Mullens will be a bust. He got drafted based off his height. He has no fundamentals.The only reason he was the #1 highschool player last year was because he was playing in division III. in college it was like Thabeet versus Blair every night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
Ditto that!
Reminds me of Aaron Gray. I know not same player, but same feeling
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
The Cavs will likely take Blair if he drops that far
They need a PF
although they need more of an athletic type forward who can shoot jumpshots (i.e. a Summers type player)
by Johnnie Futbol on Jun 25, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Sigh, don't talk like that
b/c it will happen if he slips past chicago
by Manimal Smith on Jun 25, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they need a shooting PF
Not a banger, so at least this probably won’t happen …
by Manimal Smith on Jun 25, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
damn nba announcer
would have a hard time sayin his name every bucket he makes lol
Augh
Blair is so NBA ready right now. GET ’EM Ernie!
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by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions
Actually, wasn’t Chicago reportedly interested in Blair at 16? Surely they will take him at 26, right?
How do we get Blair
Is there any way Chicago doesn’t take him here?
No way
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
It seems like such a long time ago we were talking about reaching for Blair with the #5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
What to do with a second-round pick?
for me… I put on my Taser shirt.
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
Guys
I actually think this is possible.
Why? Nobody wants to take on guaranteed money in this economy, so they’re just drafting Euros they don’t have to pay yet. Coming up, we have the following teams that could pick Blair.
-Chicago, who has tax concerns
-Memphis, who stinks
-Minnesota, who has eight zillion power forwards
-The Lakers, who have tax concerns and basically admitting they are selling
-Sacramento, who has a lot of PFs
Cleveland’s the real worry here.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Blair doesn't have a jump shot
And they just traded for Shaq, surely he won’t go to Cleveland
by Manimal Smith on Jun 25, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
They are focused on resigning Varejo
Unfortunately, they might want insurance.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Can Blair
guard the pick and roll?
Did someone take J.J. Hickson out to pasture?
by Manimal Smith on Jun 25, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
No I know they have Hickson
I’ve got my fingers crossed
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by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
The Lakers have already sold the pick to the Knicks. It won’t become official till later, so essentially the Knicks will tell LA who to draft.
by Johnnie Futbol on Jun 25, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Grizzlies
already have a couple of good young PF’s
I think the Griz take a PG
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YES!!!!!
WHY don’t we have the 28???
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
Taj Gibson
Would have been very good for the Wizards…. Excellent defensive player
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I don't think I could take Blair falling to 32 and Ernie selling the pick or passing on him...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
Would it be poetic justice
If Minn took Blair just to throw the knockout punch?
I always thought Dozier was awful
some Mock’s have him going undrafted
by 7Swords of Salat on Jun 25, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice call
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by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
...damn! let's trade them a 2 for it
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's look on the bright side
Five picks before the Wiz pick, and the following are still available:
Blair, Derrick Brown, Toney Douglas, Sam Young, Jerebko…
OK, that didn’t cheer me up as much as I thought it would.
what about...
Jeff Pendergraph
"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King
do we have to worry aout the knicks
taking blair? cuz i think we might have to start worrying pretty soon.
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I don't think Blair can run with D'Antoni
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
hahaha
i keep thinking sterns just gonna spit out dejuan every time he steps to the podium.
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Sacramento
Do they take Blair?
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 10:07 PM EDT reply actions
They did
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by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh crap
I forgot about that. Blair makes a ton of sense in Portland. They need a bruiser off their bench.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Won't they take Jerebko(sic)? or Liull (sic)
Pritchard loves Euros and wants guards ..
by Manimal Smith on Jun 25, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Ooooh
Sorry, the ESPN ticker is terrible.
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
If Blair is off the board
I think the Wizards should take Josh Heytvelt
Josh Heytvelt - 6’11" 260 PF (39, ??,42)
Another Senior. Unfortunately, Hytvelt is not as experienced as some of the other Seniors in this draft because he has had foot injuries and off-court issues. I only saw 3 Gonzaga games, so my knowledge base on Hytvelt is limited. What struck me was that I expected to see this big lumbering guy, but instead I saw a very athletic player. He can get up with the best of them (34 inch vertical); combined that with his excellent length (9’0" standing reach) and the tools are there. Heytvelt showed a nice touch from mid-range and the ability to finish strong around the basket – usually with a forceful dunk. Hytvelt looked to be a pretty good rebounder. He didn’t block any shots while I was watching, but I would think he has that ability, based on his leaping ability and length.
He’s not much of a passer, having difficulties passing out of double-teams; and had trouble sometimes keeping his man from backing him down. Didn’t seem to be a very good defender. He needs to work on his advanced post moves… as the only thing I saw him do consistently was a turn around jumper.
Hytvelt has some upside, especially if he can continue to regain the athleticism he lost after the injuries in his Sophomore year.
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the wiz will trade
their 32nd pic soon, i hope
I still want Camby
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too
I will be OK with:
Camby
Blair
Heylvelt
MAYBE Pendergraph.
by Manimal Smith on Jun 25, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Turns out
the Thunder got Mullens and Dallas got Beaubois
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
DaJuan Summers would be a good gamble. He was projected as a top 9 pick at the beginning of the season. Worth a shot.
Too bad MN doesn't need guards anymore
Or we could trade ’em Critt right now and snag Blair.
Main problem is Portland at 31 – I’m almost positive they’ll take Blair if he’s still there. THey loved him.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
at 32?
worth the gamble. 2nd round picks dont have guaranteed contracts so it’s a no lose
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by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
how bout signing
Kurt Thomas, he ply good post defense
THREE PICKS AWAY FROM BLAIR
Which means we have absolutely no shot
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by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
so how
Flyn and Rubio gonna co -exist?? they both pg???
McCants Part II?
Or is Ellington better?
I don't think so.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah they did
Unless they can back off and get Blair, haha
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
!!!!!!!!FANBOYS ARE IN DENIAL -- there is no ifs ands or BUTS!!!!!!!!!!
I call it like it is. Look, I love the Bullets/Wiz as much as anybody but the trade SUCKS.
Rubio would have been the perfect fit, and I guarantee you he would have loved playing with the Wiz in DC vs. Iceland. Watch. This will be worse than missing out on Karl Malone.
Speaking of which, people say Rubio isn’t athlentic enough. Others who weren’t athletic enough – Stockton, Nash are just a couple.
…I can’t write anymore, I think I’m going to puke.
FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS WE WILL ALL LOOK BACK ON THIS DAY AND SAY “WE COULD HAVE BEEN A CONTENDER”
WE WILL SAY MIKE MILLER WHO? RANDY FOYE WHO? DON’T WORRY, JAVARIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT!! OH, MIKE JAMES IS GOING TO ROCK IT OUT.
WE ARE SO SCREWED. YOU ALL FANBOYS JUST FRIGGIN’ WAKE UP AND SMELL THE FRIGGIN COFFEE — WE JUST FRIGGIN BLEW IT!!!!
by ucantstopbernard on Jun 25, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
THANK YOU. AND SORRY I AM LATE.
….I JUST HAD A FEELING THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AND NOW THAT IT HAS I AM INCREDULOUS.
I love you all but I feel like my manhood has just been lopped off by a flying ernie grunfeld ginsu knife.
I feel like Ricky should be ours and that we are cursed to another 20 years of mediocrity and floundering. I feel like slapping Cavs fans silly, because cleveland sucks and if it weren’t for LBJ we would have been in the finals. I’m am just so messed up right now.
by ucantstopbernard on Jun 25, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
SORRY...
A fanboy to me tonight is: “Anyone trying to make me feel better by saying the Trade is ‘too early to call’ or ’Randy Foye is really under appreciated and going to be amazing”.
Randy Foye SUCKED and this year he got some PT on a bad team and actually averaged average averages. That is some consolation prize.
by ucantstopbernard on Jun 25, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Stop what?
are my comments offensive to you or anyone here? ANYWAYS….
by ucantstopbernard on Jun 25, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
You're making ad hoc attacks
Not allowed.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Ad hoc attacks?
…not to prolong this but I call it a bit of a rant and if there were any occasion to do it I find tonight to be the tonight.
by ucantstopbernard on Jun 25, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I was talking about your second comment
When you derisively called people “fanboys.” That’s not acceptable here.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Yeah, that was a cheap shot :-)
…i’m a fanboy myself, granted a more beat up, more jaded, cynical, pessimistic, doom and gloom fanboy of an organization that gave $111 to a guy who hasn’t played in 2 years and passed up the opportunity to select the best PG of the draft by far.
by ucantstopbernard on Jun 25, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Kanye? Is that you?
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by Kyle Weidie on Jun 25, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too
I love Danny Green
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's going to be a very solid pro
Think Shane Battier. Seriously. I’m convinced.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Knicks fans cherring for Darko
PRICELESS. That made me GIDDY
Heytvelt or Danny Green
Both can play contribute this year for the Wizards
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Yea, riiiiight
A rookie playing? Naw.
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by Kyle Weidie on Jun 25, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Knicks fans are great
I remember them cheering wildly when the obtain Zack Randolph from Portland. How’d that work out?
i would not hesitate to
take Blair if he falls to us
Why wouldnt NY pick Mills?
doesn’t that seem like a really nice fit?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
So many guards in this draft
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by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions
Nope
But Portland does.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's all invoke the Taser 2nd rd. magic
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is ESPN ignoring the Vince Carter trade?
All they do is talk about Shaq, LeBron and the Cavs. Screw you ESPN.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
Well the Wiz trade
Officially didn’t happen now according to the network. They have mentioned it ONCE
by Manimal Smith on Jun 25, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The NBA Finals runner ups just got a potential HOF player
And all they care about is LeBron. UGH
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by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Does ESPN partner with Twitter? haha
twitter fans in Cleveland are probably tripling
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't Heyvelt a better pick for them?
Doesn’t he have a jumpshot?
by Manimal Smith on Jun 25, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
cleveland wont take Blair
they already have
hickson last year
Time to pace
Baack and forth
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
Portland Takes Blair.
Bank it. Unless we trade.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions
Christian Eyenga?
He played all of 4 games in Euroleague last year?
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Even if we get Blair ...
I BET Grunfeld SELLS, SELLS, SELLS
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AGAHAGHAGAHAH
AGH! This would save the draft for me
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
Or Danny Green
But if Ernie really takes the “best player available” it’ll be Blair -
If he’s worried about his knees – the next best player available is Chase Budinger
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The Wizards are trying to win now, Rook
Ernie doesn’t care if Blair is in a wheelchair September 2010.
Budinger won't be good.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I just thought about this
Can you imagine how horrible the Cavaliers introductions are going to be with Shaq added to the equation? I bet they’ll hire circus performers to help them with the intros since they all are already clowns.
Via some guy on the True Hoop Network Thingee
Rubio´s father says In Spanish Press that maybe he will stay in ACB for a couple of years
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maybe
when we rebuild again in 5 years and he becomes a free agent
Really?
Isn’t his salary like $100,000 there? Though he would have to work for free to get that buy out
by Manimal Smith on Jun 25, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like he's fishing for a trade
Perhaps we can make another trade with Minny….. Suppose if we draft Blair, they’d swap?
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So what
They are just posturing. I’d still take Rubio even if he didn’t come to the US for a year or two.
Yeah, me too
Then you don’t have to pay him, which accomplishes basically what the Wizards did when they made their trade.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
It wasn't meant as such
It was more that part of the motivation was to not have to pay the fifth pick’s salary long term.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
actually you do have a point there
we were trying to cut out the 5th pick’s guaranteed salary.
but it’s false to say that you’d be happy if we just sat on the guy for a year or two. you’d be up in arms.
i sympathize though, this must be torture for you. sorry.
by DarrellWalkerFan on Jun 25, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
You just know
That Blair will be there, and we won’t draft him.
by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Jun 25, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions
draft blair plz!!
we’d have a pf rotation of jamison blatche blair.
after we could trade mike james for another center
It's Portland
Not Sac
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by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a hole
He’s literally a 6 foot wide hole on the court
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by Juice over Whine on Jun 25, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
Via TWITTER
RT @hoopshype: From Rubio’s father: “Right now, Ricky is likely staying in Europe one or two years.”
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Ha
Oh yes he can.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 25, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
ESPN on-line draft poll
Gives the Cavaliers draft of Christian Eyenga an F
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