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What about the 2nd Round? (Adjusted for the recent trade)



What if the Wizards trade up into the late 1st round; or keep their 32nd pick and draft a player. I've expanded  my write up to include prospects from mid-20 picks through late 30's.

Ok - so here's the next batch - adjusted to account for the Wednesday trade. I've include only big men...

Star-divide

Ok - so I cheated. I kept Hansborough..... (I really think he could help the Wizards this year)

Tyler Hansborough - 6'9" 230 PF (20,12,20)
There's been talk about Hansborough going in the top 15, but I don't think he belongs there. In this draft, he's probably a Low to Mid-20's pick. If the Wizards trade down in the draft, he may be available. If he slips past Utah at 20, he may free-fall into the high 30's, and they could get him with the 2nd Round pick.

There were those who were worried that Hansborough was too short to play PF in the NBA, he measured out bigger than most people thought at the NBA Combine in Chicago. At 6'8.5" without shoes, and 6'9.5" with shoes, he'll do fine. He's got a 6'11.5" wingspan and a 8'10" standing reach. He's also a better athlete than originally thought. He's a tough, physical player that likes to throw his body around in the paint - but he can step out and stroke the mid-range jumper too. He shows good form and excellent touch on his jumper. He's also a very good Free Throw shooter. Hansborough has been a very good rebounder throughout his College career - relying upon fundamentals (position, blocking out) rather than athleticism. Those skills should translate well to the NBA.

Hansborough is a Senior, and therefore very experienced. He's fundamentally sound and has all the intangibles (High Basketball IQ, good work ethic, agressive, competitive, has a winning mentality from a winning program). He should be able to step in and help a team right away. His experience is also partially considered one of his weaknesses. There's not much upside here. What you see from Hansborough his first NBA practice will be what you'll get for the most part. There are questions whether he can defend NBA Power Forwards. He also needs to work on his ball handling - and his decision making when passing out of double-teams.

All-in-all, Hansborough will be a solid, if not spectacular Pro.



Josh Heytvelt - 6'11" 260 PF (39, ??,42)
Another Senior. Unfortunately, Hytvelt is not as experienced as some of the other Seniors in this draft because he has had foot injuries and off-court issues. I only saw 3 Gonzaga games, so my knowledge base on Hytvelt is limited. What struck me was that I expected to see this big lumbering guy, but instead I saw a very athletic player. He can get up with the best of them (34 inch vertical); combined that with his excellent length (9'0" standing reach) and the tools are there. Heytvelt showed a nice touch from mid-range and the ability to finish strong around the basket - usually with a forceful dunk. Hytvelt looked to be a pretty good rebounder. He didn't block any shots while I was watching, but I would think he has that ability, based on his leaping ability and length.

He's not much of a passer, having difficulties passing out of double-teams; and had trouble sometimes keeping his man from backing him down. Didn't seem to be a very good defender. He needs to work on his advanced post moves... as the only thing I saw him do consistently was a turn around jumper.

Hytvelt has some upside, especially if he can continue to regain the athleticism he lost after the injuries in his Sophomore year.




Jon Brockman - 6'8" 255 PF (39,53,36)
Wide body. Strong. Double-double machine in College.
Blue-collar work ethic. I'd love to see him going up against Blatche every day in practice. Jon would show Andray what it's like to work hard. Only 6'7" without shoes, and with a pathetic 6'7" wingspan, Jon comes up short on the Physical and athletic scale. He can't make up for it with talent, so he just out-works everyone else. That tremendous work ethic is good enough to allow a poor athlete with little natural talent to make it all the way to the NBA. He WILL be drafted by someone; and I would not be surprised if he has a long and productive career.. (Jerry Sloan would love this guy).




Jeff Pendergraph - 6'10" 240 PF (40,40,34)
Like the other big men in the 2nd round of this year's draft, Jeff Pendergraph is big and experienced. Another Senior that played for a full 4 years. He's got good size for the PF position; but only average athleticism.

Pendergraph is a very efficient Offensive player, shooting 66% in his Senior year. A decent but not stellar rebounder, he'll also block the occasional shot. He finishes extremely well around the basket, and he sets great screens. Good at the pick-and-roll game, but needs work on his shot to play the pick-and-pop. Actually, he needs a lot of work on his face up game overall. Like most of the rest of the Seniors, there's not a lot of upside for Pendergraph.







Vladimir Veremeenko - 6'10" 240 PF (Unics Kazan)
Remember him? Veremeenko was drafted by the Wizards in the 2nd Round in 2006; the Same draft that saw the Wizards take Pecherov with the 1st Round selection. He looked lost last year in Summer League... and ended up going back to Europe. Perhaps one of the potential fixes for the Wizard's unbalanced roster is to bring Veremeenko over for the Rookie minimum salary; just as an insurance policy against injury. If he's still a bit raw, they could ship him off to the D-League Wizards for seasoning and additional Coaching.

Vladimir Veremeenko was playing for Khimki in the EuroLeague, and was trapped behind some veteran big men on that team. This year, he moved to the Unics club for the 2008-09 season, and earned the starting Power Forward job. He apparently relished the additional responsibility, as well as the added playing time. Veremeenko averaged 12 points, while making 61% of his 2-point shots and 45.5% of his 3-point shots. In addition he averaged 8 rebounds and 1.2 blocks per game; while helping his team make the final 16 of the EuroLeague playoffs.

Good size and frame for the PF position. Excellent skills (ball handling, shooting, passing). Has the frame to add bulk and strength. Excellent mid-range shooter. Excellent fundamental rebounder. Has improved his athleticism since the Wizard's drafted him. This guy is NOT just another soft Euro player - he likes to mix it up inside.

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Josh Heytvelt

or

Marcus Camby
for
DS + James + 2010 1st + 32nd or not

and sign McDyess

Camby mentor for Mcgee
Mcdyess mentor for Blatche

and they are tough defensive mentors too

by eltacoman on Jun 24, 2009 2:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

by DS

do you mean Darius Songalia? he’s already gone.

by CJHutch on Jun 24, 2009 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh

sorry. Forgot about. Probably because he’s now our 4th best SG.

Camby would be nice. McDyess is a spot up shooter now, not much more. I wonder if they’ve thought about making a run at Rasheed.

by CJHutch on Jun 24, 2009 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ya, Rasheed does come to mind....

But if you want to go for the brass ring, it’s going to cost…. How does he get on with Flip, though?

by khrabb on Jun 24, 2009 5:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure

Rasheed holds a grudge against Abe but if not, I’d be all over him coming here. 2yr/10mil or so?

by Mr. E on Jun 24, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

McDyess can still board

he basically averaged a double-double last year. 9.6 ppg 9.8 reb

by 7Swords of Salat on Jun 24, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alot for 1 year of Camby

On the other hand, I think he would bring an important defensive presence to the team.

At some point though we are running out of minutes. If we added Camby without subtracting a rotation guy then we would have Arenas, Foye, Miller, NY, Caron, Antawn, Brendan, Blatche, McGee, Camby, McGuire. Thats 11 guys all of whom deserve some minutes.

All of this said, I don’t think even Dunleavy is stupid enough to take Deshawn back in a trade for Camby.

What about this?

Nick Young + Mike James + 32nd Pick for Camby. Clippers get to clear a logjam in their front court, don’t take back salary (for a change … see Zach Randolph) and get a young back court player and an extra draft pick.

by Manimal Smith on Jun 24, 2009 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Veermenko

We could then bring him in or sign someone like Adonal Foyle to fill out our front court and roster.

by Manimal Smith on Jun 24, 2009 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

Do not trade McGee for Camby, ever!

by Unkle Wheez on Jun 24, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Not just another soft euro player, he likes to mix it up inside."

That’s exactly the same description that was used for pech when we drafted him. He was raw but he LOVED rebounding and banging inside, but could stroke the three. We just need a vet PF stop gap for this season until we clear all that space and make a run at a superstar post player in 2010.

by Spanky731 on Jun 24, 2009 2:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Never thought I would say this but...

god i hope Hansborough falls to us at 32. Doubt it will happen but guys slip every year.

by Spanky731 on Jun 24, 2009 2:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no way utah passes up on signing another big white guy

by Fundefined on Jun 24, 2009 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

as a duke fan i think it would be weird to see hansborough in a wiz uni…i like jamison though so i guess i could learn to like him

by theintz on Jun 24, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pendergraph would be perfect

Given the teams needs after the trade. Big body for depth with solid all-around game.

by steadyhand on Jun 24, 2009 2:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He impressed me in the PAC-10 tourney......

He has a nice elbow jumper and he was very skilled and was a pretty good passer. He’s big enough and he could def. run offensive sets without tripping over himself and do the little things Songalia did.

by BayAreaBullet on Jun 24, 2009 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

after

this awful trade, I’m hoping that Ernie can fleece someone else and land in the 15-20 pick region, maybe pick up Blair. I know, another pipe dream, but I can dream can’t I?

by CJHutch on Jun 24, 2009 2:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was a little dubious

when I heard Flip Saunders and Vinnie Cerrato were longtime friends. Now I know why. I realize that Ernie takes credit for this deal, but it is definitely something Vinnie would do. I just wonder why, if we were going to raid one of Flips old teams, why we didn’t raid the good one? I would’ve rather had Stuckey than Foye. ( I realize that that wasn’t anywhere in the works). I just wonder how many Minnesota parts are going to be on this team when it’s all done and said.

by CJHutch on Jun 24, 2009 3:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bobcats' May becomes unrestricted free agent

it’s a stretch, but maybe we could sign him for cheap and hope he reaches his potential. Pickings are slim out there for bangers.

by CJHutch on Jun 24, 2009 3:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree... Worth a non guaranteed contract I would think....

May may have been a zero so far, but way to soon to give up on the guy.

by khrabb on Jun 24, 2009 5:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

 If Taj Gibson isn’t there then pick Jeff Adrien.

by Jeremybozz on Jun 24, 2009 6:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Goran Suton, ahmad nivins, Dante cunningham.

I’d take Pendergraph in a heart beat. He can play right now.

If we had gotten one of MIN’s picks Hansbrough would be the pick.

by Jheiser3 on Jun 24, 2009 9:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

or Blair

I still say this trade would be a lot easier to stomach if he HAD gotten another pick in return. The telling point is in the posts on here AND on the Wolves board from their fans. They are ecstatic with the deal, and happy to get rid of both players. Other than the Clippers, the Wolves are obviously in the best position in this draft. No doubt it’s a crapshoot, so if I were them I’d forget about Rubio and keep all the picks. Then they could take a flier on a boom or bust guy like DeRozan. They could get Evans or Harden, Derozan, Blair, and Flynn or Mills. WOW

by CJHutch on Jun 24, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do they know they suck?

These Minnesota fans who are excited about all these picks in a ‘weak draft’? They know they suck right? And they know Miller’s worth to us is nearly 1.75 X what he was to them? And they now have no guards? And they just took on 2 pieces of dead weight and a role player thats now much LESS valuable to them? For what? Pushing succes off a few more years for the new guy’s newest rebuilding plan.

If there is one thing I will never use as a reason to be either excited or down on a deal its the reaction from the other team’s fans. None of them care of value what these guys bring to the Wizards or why they will be so much better here than they were on a toilet team.

by Jheiser3 on Jun 24, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

except that

everything you said about Minnesota, they’re probably saying about us. I’m not really worried about their overall reaction. What I don’t like is their take on the guys we got. Pretty much what I knew already, just reinforces it.

Foye – a good scorer who needs the ball. Not a good defender.

Miller – a good 3 point shooter who needs the ball. Not a good defender.

And passing judgement on the draft before seeing what the players do in the league is ridiculous. Dwayne Wade, Joe Johnson, Paul Pierce, Brandon Roy, GILBERT ARENAS – just a few examples of players who exceeded pre-draft expectations.

by CJHutch on Jun 24, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Act

So what if they say anything about us? Why is that so important to you? I don’t want to win the press cycle, I want to win games. You don’t run a business or franchise based on popular opinion. Minnesota is a bad team in a fugly city and they’ve been in the toilet for a long long time. They think they ‘won’ this trade because they get a draft pick, which to them equals HOPE. Thats all they have.

This franchise made the playoffs without Gilbert in 07-08. Without Gilbert, Mason, Deshawn and Haywood we sucked for one season. So does that give their opinion merit? Or does your own logic have to kick in at that point?

Isn’t assuming that you are drafting a star passing judgment on the draft before they play? I heart irony.

by Jheiser3 on Jun 24, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never

guaranteed we would draft a star. Actually, I’ve said over and over how bad our luck has been in the draft. What I said was, this took the excitement away. Now I KNOW we aren’t getting a star.

by CJHutch on Jun 24, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

excitement?

Winning is exciting. I can tell you are more interested in winning the media cycle and having your friends who don’t know anything about the NBA slap you on the back for day cuz your team is in the news.

Its not about you.

by Jheiser3 on Jun 24, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

winning is exciting. But there’s no winning in the offseason. There’s only anticipation. I don’t care what the media says. Hell, most of them think this was a great trade. As for my friends, yes, some of them don’t know much about basketball. Some do. My point was Foye is not a household name. And before you jump down my thoat on that one, I do realize you can’t have all-stars at every position. Where I was going with that is, there’s a chance that Harden, Evans, Derozan, or whoever else COULD be a household name. Meaning great player. At this opint, I hope none of them are, but you just don’t know.

Oh, and for me, it is about me. I want the best players for my team. Don’t you feel the same? We just differ in our opinions.

by CJHutch on Jun 25, 2009 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do yourself a favor

When pick #5 rolls around, choose your favorite available player and write his name on a piece of paper. If that guy becomes a star then you can beat yourself and EG up about it. If that player becomes less than Foye then you can stop.

Otherwise you are going to drive yourself (and me) crazy if ANY player drafted at 5 or below becomes a star.

Pick #5 is only one player.

by MR on Jun 25, 2009 5:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll tell you what

I’ll get on here and post who I’m thinking of. And I’ll say now, if Harden is there, he’s the guy. Then if he’s a bust, you can bash me all you want, and I’ll take it with my tail between my legs.

But I won’t go crazy about any other player. No point. I do sometimes look back at the woulda-coulda-shoulda’s of prior drafts. It’s maddening. But all teams screw it up at some point. What I find funny is how the media will blast us, or any team, when a player doesn’t pan out. Yet 99% of the time, the media is right there calling that player a star pre-draft with everyone else. I don’t even think they realize how hypocritical they are.

Oh, and I know I’m beating a dead horse here, but that ONE player could be a Kevin Garnett (whom we passed up for Rasheed), or a Dwayne Wade. Or it could be a Nikoloz Tskitishvili. That’s the excitement of the draft. One player could turn your franchise around. Even if he’s the 5th pick. Which also could be a Mike Miller. HA!

by CJHutch on Jun 25, 2009 6:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

For me its about being a better team, not about feeling better about myself through a news cycle or the amount of attention the trade gets.

As for anticipation, you’re back to buying into the sizzle instead of the steak. its not about “household names” its about W’s and putting a team together. Otherwise I get it, we gave up a roll of the dice for Miller and Foye. That roll could be a star, I prefer Harden, or it could be craps. We won’t know for a couple years. By then this team as we know it won’t exist.

by Jheiser3 on Jun 25, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that

shouldn’t be true. Butler should be here. Arenas is here for a gazillion year. Yes, Jamison will be gone. Maybe Haywood.

by CJHutch on Jun 26, 2009 6:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

add DaJuan Summers

At 6’8" and 240 with a good wingspan (7’1") he’s big enough to play the 4, even if he’s sometimes projected to play the 3.

by Johnnie Futbol on Jun 24, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

McDyess or Kurt Thomas... is who we should stick w/

oh and Dajuan Summers probably is more 6’6 ish

by rzawrecktah on Jun 24, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2nd Round

id take Austin Daye if he falls.

I think Daye is going to be like a skinner odam who can play both 3/4 and if he added some weight could be a great player with his shoting. he is lights out with the 3’s and can get rebounds.

by rginsber on Jun 24, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dropping

the thing with guys who drop in the draft is that they are often the biggest projects. I don’t think Ernie is looking for more projects for this roster.

by Jheiser3 on Jun 24, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

daivd lee

i know it might be hard but what about trying to get him, it would help with the d and rebounding.

by rginsber on Jun 24, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

one other name

Derrick Brown, bouncy combo forward from Xavier. One of those shorter guys that test out a lot like Paul Milsap.

by Jheiser3 on Jun 24, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I still think

Collison or Mills would be the best value at 32. Our team still needs a true PG and it allows us to deal James and Critt for a 4/5.
Also, Minn had second rounders that could have been valuable to us as well. I’d take one of those PG’s or a euro to stash and then be more comfortable drafting a low upside banger like Adrien or Brockman with #40 if we could get the Wolves to toss that in.

by Mr. E on Jun 24, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dont Agree

I think Arenas is a good point guard. I also think the last two years have matured him more that anything else could have. He has always wanted to win a championship.I am betting my mortgage that he will be a good point guard the only way he can.

by Unkle Wheez on Jun 24, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arenas is a great PG

I merely meant to be his backup along with Foye and the potential to be a backup all by their lonesome next season.

by Mr. E on Jun 24, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Larry Sanders

I like Larry Sanders at the #32 pick. He is 6’9", with an outrageous 7’7" wingspan, Sanders has made his name as a shot blocking menace. He would give the Wiz some added defense.

by bullets_fan on Jun 24, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a few names

damarre carroll im pretty big on, he’s got a decent inside, midrange game, athletic and seems like he would bring a lot of energy off the bench. kinda like a blatche or mcgee but more built. haven’t seen any games with pendergraph but i’ll buy in on the hype

by theintz on Jun 24, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A few names out there with potential...

There are some decent names out there we might be able to help for depth in the second round -

John Bryant from Santa Clara
Josh Heytvelt from Gonzaga
Luke Nevill from Utah
Chinemelu Elonu from Texas A&M

I am still convinced that there is another deal out there for a big man for the expiring contract of Mike James and a young guard in Critt. Or go after a free agent big man that can play a role and come off the bench..

Stevenson and James are the odd men out…..Miller can play SF, but could create some real mismatches at SG

by Aquamaneastfish on Jun 24, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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