Flip Saunders meet and greet with season ticket holders today
Editor's Note: Gotta bump this to the Front Page. Great inside info from ooba! -PM
Hello
Here is my report from the meet and greet today. Sorry if some of it doesn't make sense - my hand was cramping as I was writing. Hope you find this interesting. It's a very long.
Flip said it was good to sit out last season and watch and analyze the other teams. Of course a plus was that he didn't lose any games.
He was interested in the Washington opportunity for 4 reasons - 1. ownership group's committment to the team and community 2. Managment staff and Ernie's success particularly with NY going to the finals and Milwaukee making the playoffs after many years. Plus Wiz making playoffs too. 3. Players - 3 all stars and plenty of veterans plus a nucelus of young players. 4. city and energy of the fans
He believes that Andre and Nick are really going to take off. Both have been really impressive. He particularly mentioned Andre's work ethic and working out.
Gilbert has been practicing every day and has lost 15 pounds and is at his lightest weight since 2004. Yes, Gilbert is unique and quirky but he is also very, very competitive.
Style of play - needs to be a balance between offense and defense. Have to take advantage of mismatches, the player who is hot will get the ball. For defense priority is protecting 3 point line and the paint.
Question - do you believe defense wins championships? How do you motivate the team to play defense? Flip - have to be committed to play defense. Individuals may not necessarily be good defenders per say but it is the team defense that is important. Especially help defense. It's also a matter of confidence. Players who get to this level know how to play defense they just need to know and understand the schemes and responsibility.
Q - Gilbert and leadership? Flip - Gilbert doesn't have a choice, he has to be a leader. I ask players - do you want to be good or great? A great player is a leader.The team is very hungry and embarrassed about last year. I have talked to him about the process of being a leader. With Gil the potential is there as all of the other players respect him.
Q-Coaching staff of other teams has often dictated our matchups. How do you approach that from your perspective? Flip - we won't be matching down to another team, the 5 best players that work best together will be on the floor, this is not necessarily the 5 best players on the team.
Q - In the past you have had success with pg's who play slower. How does Gil fit with this? Flip- have had faster pg's eg: Marbury. It really depends on what you have. Don't want to get into fast break situation where there is a quick attack. Have to play half court as well. We play 82 games to set ourselves up for the playoffs so you can play the same way.
Q - how are the workouts going? Flip - each player working out has different strengths. Flynn - leader, good at pick and roll. Curry - best shooter. Jennings - very athletic. Price - good all around.
Q- a lot of players who weren't playing, weren't even on the bench supporting. What is your opinion on this? Flip - this may also be due to the dress code. Sometimes players will tweak something in practice and not have a suit with them. The team doesn't want the fine so the player won't be on the bench. But philosophy is player should be there suppporting.
Q-Guys getting hurt? What approach going to take? can we be like Phoenix? Flip - last year we had some freak accidents such as Haywood getting hurt. I hold intense but short practices as opposed to 2 hour practices. It's also a process of conditioning the body. Players have to prepare in the off season. Sometimes players show up to training camp and they haven't really worked out in the offseason so they start intense workouts and get injured.
Q-There are many statistical tools that sports fans don't see, what do you focus on stats or gut instinct? Flip - developing new program where will chart plays on a computer during the game so can see what works, players tendencies and synopsis of all plays. Can figure out top ten most successful plays. In last 10 minutes, I coach with my gut.
Q - who are you going to pick in the draft? Flip - we are looking at 7 players. Really depends on what the teams do above us. We are luckier than most teams in the top ten in that we do not have to have an impact player right away because we have such good players already. We can draft a new player and he will have good mentors. A player who would be a starter on another team, doesn't have to be that for us right away. When we drafted KG for Minnesota, we watched him work out for 5 mins. There were 20 other teams there. We told the other teams we were going to take him at number 5 in the hope that they would be like ' wow, he must be really good, maybe we should take him' in the hopes that one of those other players projected to go 1-4 would drop down.
Q- we have a very talented but immature team. How do you make them grow up? Flip - We keep pounding into players and eventually they will get it. If the players don't have believe and have the attitude the we can win a championship, then they won't play. I think of myself as more of a teacher than a coach.
Q (from someone who was a little angry but who can blame her) respect should be earned and not given. Gilbert is a prankster, he did his own rehab, he stopped sitting on the bench and supporting the team, and he behaved irresponsibly off court. Jamison is the opposite. Gilbert even said that the team should finish last to get the number 1 pick. Flip - I don't care about he past. We have a clean slate. I have a certain way of doing things. I tell players - 'your greatest strength is your greatest weakness if you can't control it'.Eg - with Rasheed and all of his technicals. I told him, if you think you are wronged by the referees (which he always thought), come over to me and yell at me instead. He would be looking at getting suspended for a game in the playoffs so would come over and yell at me to get over the hump. Of course it was interpreted as Rasheed and I were in conflict. As far as Gilbert's pranks - need a melting pot for the team which is what we have.
Q- thoughts on Ricky Rubio and would we take him if he fell to us? Flip - don't think he is going to fall to us but he can play with Gilbert. Some teams are scared off by the Spanish contract but think a team will trade up to get him. After Blake, most buzz is surrounding Rubio and Curry.
Q- how do you develop the youngsters to make sure they are ready? Flip - experience with both KG and Marbury. Have to give youngsters responsibility to have them keep improving, as they improve give them more responsibility, if they don't improve take away some of that responsibility. Use film sessions as well. Part of the problem with youngsters is that they are not used to the competiveness of the games and how hard the games are. The players we have had work out for us have all said that our workouts are the hardest they have ever done.
Q - How will you get the team ready for a big moment at end of 4th quarter? Flip - practice late game situations every day. Preparation is really key. Can never really be prepared for getting caught up in the emotion but can have rituals and repetiveness.
Q - how is Brendan doing? Flip - very good shape. Actually lost weight while he was injured because was working so hard. No ill effects. Deshawn is doing back exercises.
Q- defense. even when healthy, one of the worst teams. Each coach has said we'll improve it and it never happens. What do you identify as the Wiz weaknesses? Flip - it can come from the offense. if you take a lot of 3 pointers early in the shot clock, you run the risk of the long rebound and fast break for the opponent and the transition defense has been lacking. We plan on contesting every shot, no second shots and no layups.
Q - about Javale? Flip - working with him on fundamentals. Has freakish athleticism but have to realize that don't have to dunk every shot, can sometimes lay it in.
Phew, I'm done.
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Thanks a ton for doing this
Lots of great information. The KG story is a classic — hadn’t heard that one before.
by disgrunted on Jun 17, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Love the comment about the woman who was a little miffed
And I loved Flip’s answer too. Great work ooba.
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Jun 17, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well played sir
Thanks.
What sticks out to me is his comment about getting youngsters more responsibility. I think the general reaction to kids is to give them less to worry about. Brendan comes to mind. There are circumstances when its a good time to give them MORE, not less. Let a younger guy know the job is his over the summer so he prepares with that in mind. People rise to those occasions.
by Jheiser3 on Jun 17, 2009 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks so much for this
I bumped it to the front page because it’s some really great stuff. I liked pretty much all of his answers, except the one about how better defense may come from offense. Otherwise, he did a great job.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Jun 18, 2009 12:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And
The comment about coaching from his gut in the last ten minutes. That gave me Eddie Jordan – Michael Ruffin flashbacks and cold sweats.
Loved just about everything else he said.
by disgrunted on Jun 18, 2009 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he really means it on defending the 3 point line, I’m so sick of seeing open threes with 5 wizards under the basket.
by Fundefined on Jun 18, 2009 1:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He defnitely has a good plan
And i’m optimisitc..then again Tapscott and Jordan gave good press conferences too. Blatche is working out? This I must see
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by rashad20 on Jun 18, 2009 7:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i believe his good to go…and he was right about the long threes, rebound and easy layup for the other team happend alot last year
by stuntin030 on Jun 18, 2009 7:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Flip Doesn't Get It
Who is the guy Flip that thinks he can just waltz in here and change this team’s core principles? Clearly he doesn’t get it.
He believes that Andre and Nick are really going to take off. Both have been really impressive. He particularly mentioned Andre’s work ethic and working out.
Obviously, he is not making a big enough deal about how those two make pranks in the locker room. That’s more important to focus on.
Style of play – needs to be a balance between offense and defense.
PUH-lease! Didn’t he get the memo from Eddie Jordan that he is supposed to spend 90% of the time focusing on the offense? Why try to balance with defense when you can practice the Princeton pick-and-roll?
Have to take advantage of mismatches, the player who is hot will get the ball.
Wrong again! Any player who makes a mistake or misses an assignment must be pulled from the floor immediately! It does not matter if he has a mismatch or is hot!
For defense priority is protecting 3 point line and the paint.
I understand the paint part, but what is this about protecting the 3-point line? Won’t that mean less men to protect the paint? You can’t collapse everyone into the paint when there are some players foolishly protecting the arc.
Individuals may not necessarily be good defenders per say but it is the team defense that is important. Especially help defense.
What are you, some sort of expert on the matchup zone or something? Give me a break, everyone knows defense boils down to great individual defenders. Just look at Orlando, they would have a terrible defense if it weren’t for the excellent individual defense of Hedo Turkoglu, Rashard Lewis, and Rafer Alston.
we won’t be matching down to another team, the 5 best players that work best together will be on the floor
Yeah right. But what if you are playing Chicago, and they decide to put Aaron Gray in while JaVale McGee is on the floor? Don’t you realize that you have to pull McGee because of that poor matchup?
developing new program where will chart plays on a computer during the game so can see what works, players tendencies and synopsis of all plays. Can figure out top ten most successful plays.
Stats, schmats! Don’t buy into the hype. We have been doing fine by not looking at them for years. Besides, how is a computer going to tell you who should be in the doghouse Palace of Good Play?
Have to give youngsters responsibility to have them keep improving, as they improve give them more responsibility, if they don’t improve take away some of that responsibility.
Another memo you must have missed. Youngsters should have to earn responsibility before it is given them. You should give them very few minutes until they prove they are worthy of having more. And if they make any mistakes in those very few minutes, you should bench them for the next game entirely to prove your point.
Obviously, this Flip guy has never coached a team deep into the playoffs, because if he had, he would never subscribe to so many foolish theories that no responsible Wizards coach would ever try.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
by cuppettcj on Jun 18, 2009 8:47 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Funny post
Especially liked the Aaron Gray reference.
by disgrunted on Jun 18, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Chicago game where McGee would 3 blocks in less than 5 minutes and still got pulled baffles me to this day.
by Fundefined on Jun 18, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's only one slight problem with this post
Wrong again! Any player who makes a mistake or misses an assignment must be pulled from the floor immediately! It does not matter if he has a mismatch or is hot!
This does not apply to certain veterans who take a dim view of pranks and fun in the locker room.
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Jun 18, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True to That
I need to brush up on my Wizards core principles again.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
by cuppettcj on Jun 18, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you think Flip Saunders is going to balance offense and defense, you're bound to be disappointed
That’d be a real break from his history.
Saunders is a “system guy.” He’s got an intricate offensive scheme, lots of motion and lots of jumpers. His playbook is seriously thick. He spends far, far more time on getting his players into that playbook on offense than he does on defensive schemes.
I watched the guy for a decade in Minny, and when he want to Detroit everything about his tenure lined up with that experience.
by feral on Jun 25, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Think the Difference
Is that while the balance might be 70% – 30% ratio between offense and defense, the ratio for Eddie Jordan was probably closer towards 90% – 10%. That’s my assumption anyway.
My other thought is that Flip just does a better job of communicating and teaching the defense to his team. He did say he liked short practices. His defensive ratings while with the Timberwolves seemed to range between 6th in the league (2003-04) and 16th (2002-03), with most years coming in at about 11th with one outlier season of 23rd in 1997-98. That tells me he gets his players to play at least above-average defense. Considering all of the offensive weapons that we have here now, I’d say above-average defense is all that we need to win 50+ games, although probably not good enough to win a championship.
Of course, with the right players, Flip had seasons where his defense ranked 4th, 5th, and 7th in the league (Detroit years). So one can hope.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
by cuppettcj on Jun 25, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
flattered
Q – Gilbert and leadership? Flip – Gilbert doesn’t have a choice, he has to be a leader. I ask players – do you want to be good or great? A great player is a leader.The team is very hungry and embarrassed about last year. I have talked to him about the process of being a leader. With Gil the potential is there as all of the other players respect him.
Flip read my Gilbert to Chauncey post. AW Shucks.
by CJHutch on Jun 18, 2009 8:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
McHale
What are the chances we use the Minne connection to bring in McHale to work with our bigs?
by bobhorsch on Jun 18, 2009 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You know, this is one of the more interesting ideas that...
has popped up here lately. If only he could gve his Andray and JaVale his shoulders :-)
by khrabb on Jun 18, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he didn't like leaving Minnesota?
It’d be great to see, though. Hakeem or Dikembe would be cool, too.
by pantslessyoda1 on Jun 18, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Minny fans are hoping for McHale on TV
The last five years at least, McHale got submerged under the siege of his GMery. He actually started as a TV analyst for Wolves broadcasts, and he was funny as heck doing that. We’re all hoping he winds up on TNT, and maybe does the big man stuff on the side.
The list of big successes due to his positional coaching is not long.
by feral on Jun 25, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fabulous Report!
Thanks a bunch for this. My dad had invitations to this, but I didn’t want to go… I thought it would have been a waste of my time – even wondered if I could ask questions. Maybe I could have!
First thing that popped off to me was mentioning the progress of Nick. Does that mean he won’t be traded? I’m excessively huge on this kid. Love him, but understand the criticism and how he meshes with our offense, or lack thereof.
by se7en on Jun 18, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's hard to say -
He may be building Nick up to make him attractive to other teams but he also could be so high on him that he ends up starting. Hard to say right now. And yes you could have asked questions!
by ooba on Jun 18, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Good Thing About Nick
And even Andray, is that they are both still young. We know that our organization has been terrible at developing talent, but I don’t think it is too late for those two. With competent coaching and player development, I think they can both still develop into good NBA players. We shall see.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
by cuppettcj on Jun 19, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes but unless we keep the # 5 pick...
Young or Blatche will almost inevitably be part of the package we sent with that pick for the (hopefully) missing piece of the puzzle…. and sure as heck the one who goes will come back to haunt us. Even Jarvis Hayes has slapped us around a couple of times since his timely departure,
Only 5 shopping days til the draft.
by khrabb on Jun 20, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me
preface this by saying that, short of a blow-your-mind trade (in a good way, that is), I would prefer to keep both of those guys. However, I am beginning to tire of Blatche. He needs to step up this year. He has to be consistent all year. No more excuses. If he comes around, I will be willing to blame his laziness on a combination of the coaching he’s had thus far, and youth. Everyone can see he has the talent. He has to show he will put in the work. If he doesn’t, I will be pulling for a move on him before the trade deadline.
by CJHutch on Jun 21, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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