What About Letting our Expiring Contracts...Expire?
Bad contracts are just a way of life in the NBA. Every team has at least one financial albatross on their hands, even the good teams. The Cavaliers finished with the best record in the league this season despite the fact that Ben Wallace was their highest paid player and Wally Szczerbiak made more than Mo Williams, Delonte West, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, and Anderson Varejao. The Lakers snatched the top seed in the West even though Adam Morrison is making more than Trevor Ariza. Denver's second highest paid player this season averaged 11 points and 6 rebounds.
In Washington, the two worst contracts on the books are Mike James and Etan Thomas. Coincidentally, both contracts expire at the end of the 2009-10 season. The conventional wisdom is that Ernie Grunfeld is going to package those two contracts to a team looking to rebuild throught the 2010 Free Agent spendapalooza and get a player or two who can help out right away, but would stick around for a longer amount of time.
It's a fine strategy, but there's one small problem with it. That one small problem is 7 feet tall and weighs 268 pounds. Perhaps you've heard of him:
Brendan Haywood's contract also expires at the end of the 2009-10 season. Unlike James and Thomas, I don't think you'll find too many people arguing that Brendan Haywood is overpaid. His performance last year and the plummet the team took without him in the lineup last year showed that he's underpaid, if anything. He's due to make $6 million this season and when he hits the market this summer, it's hard to imagine him making less than that when he gets a new contract next summer.
So if we're going to keep Brendan around after 2010 (which I'm assuming we will), we're going to have to same some expiriing salary around to make up the difference for Brendan's pay raise. That is, unless you think that Abe Pollin is really going to go off the deep end in his first dip into the luxury tax. It would be a pleasant surprise, but I don't think that it's one we can count on happening.
Ultimately, it comes down to a matter of what Brendan's value is on the open market and whether or not there's a player out there that can be obtained who can make a bigger impact than Haywood. I'm not a general manager so I can't answer either question with any amount of certainty, but I'd be inclined to believe that Haywood is better than any player we can get for our other two expiring contracts.
The ideal situation would be finding a trade partner that could give us a decent contributor and a smaller expiring contract to make up the difference between Haywood's current contract and what he'll make in his new deal. (Something like this, maybe?) But if the ideal situation isn't out there, I'd rather keep Haywood then go all in for another contributor whose salary might force Brendan to look for greener pastures.
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Is anyone going to have any money left
After all the marquee guys get signed to offer Brendan Haywood the kind of money you are talking about. I think given the economic climate (and who knows what the economic picture looks like 2010) I think you will see teams offering big money to the can’t miss players (the ones guaranteed to fill seats and sell team paraphernalia) and not much to players not in that category.
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by George Templeton on May 4, 2009 12:45 AM EDT reply actions
Hopefully
At the same time, I could easily see teams with a lot of cap space and no one worth signing, which could lead to good players being paid like great ones. I’d guess that, once all of the really good players are signed, there are going to be at least a few teams (New Jersey? Detroit?) that have a lot of cap room, a mandate to win next year, and no one to sign. In a situation like that, someone like Brendan who plays a position with a real shortage of talent could easily make out like a bandit.
by pantslessyoda1 on May 4, 2009 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
We definitely have that going for us in '10
Aside from big names, there are a bunch of top-tier role players coming off the books that year too.
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by Evander holyfield on May 4, 2009 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think Haywood will garner any offers above the MLE when he’s a free agent. The club should be able to keep him on a four year $6mil per annum type of deal.
I don't know about that
He’s a quality starting center; those guys always make a lot more than they should. I mean, Etan Thomas got, like, seven million a year when he wasn’t even close to as good as Brendan is now.
by pantslessyoda1 on May 4, 2009 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
My Reasoning ...
Brendan Haywood will be 31 years old near the start of the ’10/11 season and I think his current contract is fairly reflective of his perceived value around the league.
I don’t see teams below the cap offering Haywood more money. Not for a player of his skill set, production and age. I think it’ll be other contenders, who’ll likely offer an MLE contract and likely for four years due to his age. I think the Wizards will be able to make a contract offer that is slightly above that, and offer him the starting job here (which several other contenders won’t offer), and that’ll be enough to hold onto him.
A contract starting at $8mil per annum that increases each season — a figure mentioned the other day, on the Bosh article — that seems too high to me. I don’t know what other team, outside of Washington, would be willing to offer that type of money for Haywood.
I’m not saying he’s not worth $8mil for his on-court value, I just don’t think anyone will offer him that much money.
by NBR on May 4, 2009 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions
He'll demand more
If Tyson Chandler got a contract starting at 10 mil, and Dalembert around the same amount, Brendan could get that much too.
Tall, shot blocking centers are something EVERY team wants, and most don’t have.
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by Evander holyfield on May 4, 2009 6:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Then again
They were a lot younger than Haywood, and I think that a lot of their money was based on their potential as much as their then current production.
by pantslessyoda1 on May 4, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Detroit
will offer Brendan a contract….
They’re re-tooling on the fly… and a starting quality Center is a good place to start.
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I think there are a few teams that seem to be trying to clear enough money to make a run at two top guys. At least one of those teams will have enough money left over to throw at someone like BH. I don’t expect he’ll leave, but I don’t expect he’ll be a bargain for us to retain either.
by MR on May 4, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
My first preference would be to couple the expiring contracts with some of the youth, and send them to a team that could give the Wizards instant cap space — a team below the cap, or one with non-guaranteed contracts, or for a player with a team option — Try to improve the financial flexibility, and then spend some MLE money on someone.
Second preference is to let the expiring contracts expire in 12 months and have the flexibility then.
Third preference is to couple the expiring contracts together with some of the youth for some quality veterans (like a Kirk Hinrich). The attractiveness of this option all depends on what player you can get back in return, so my interest in it veers wildly.
I agree... as for Brendan...
We wlll be hard pressed to sign him for less than $7.5 million for 4 years, I should think. That’s not horrible money for a decent shot-blocking center (don’t forget to include Eric Dampier on your comp list with Delambert and Chandler) and Brendan will probably continue to contribute into his 30s as big men tend to last a bit longer than guards and wingmen… his relatively low usage so far n his career helps here too.
The toxic contracts to James and Thomas can either be moved or let expire depending on the market, I would think.
This post is music to my ears
Especially since we’re not a huge market team and our owner isn’t as loaded as some other teams’, it might be a good idea in the long term for us to get back under the luxury tax. I mean, not three months ago we were having serious debates about whether or not we’ll sell a top-five draft pick just to avoid paying the tax. And yeah, Caron, Dominic McGuire, and Brendan Haywood are going to be due for new contracts in the next year or two (I think Caron is a free agent in 2011), and at least one of those guys is going to get a raise. Even if we don’t re-sign Nick Young, we’ll most likely have to pay out big bucks to keep Javale. Granted, that’s three years down the line, but if we pick up someone with a long-term deal, it could really hurt us.
Ideally, I’d like to just let James and Thomas expire next year and keep our cap flexibility in case we’re in the middle of a championship run and someone important gets hurt midway through the season. If we’re dead-set on paying the tax and trading those two, I’d want us to try to sign someone who expires the same year as Caron, no later.
Haywood has shown improvement and the league rewards 7 footers who are still getting better. Darko is getting 7.5 next year. Even in ‘adjusted’ numbers Haywood can do better than that. Washington can still afford him. When is he eligible to sign an extension?
I can take Tim Thomas for a year. He can setup in either corner or wing and spread the floor. Heinrich and Crittendon would split back-up PG minutes.
id rather have him start at 1
and see gilbert playing the 2. unless gil continues to get 10 assist games next season
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by blatcheallstar09 on May 4, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather see Heinrich at the 2...
If for nothing else, than to shut down the other team’s shooting guards…
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Definitely
Didn’t mean to skip that part. Yes he’d get a lot of spot up opportunities starting 2G.
He can also play the point and likely would log some time there ‘backing up’ Arenas. So they wouldn’t be counting on Crittendon as the only sub at the position.
Haywood is going to cost at least $8M a year
I figure Miami and New York would both be interested in him. They’ll each have $10M+ in cap space after signing a max free agent (presumably Wade and Lebron respectively). They’ll each be in “win-now” mode and they each will lack a starting-caliber center. A team like Minnesota will also be interested. The Love/Jefferson combo won’t work because neither guy can defende the paint. They’ll probably trade one of them for a star-caliber perimeter player and then look to sign a guy like Hawyood to man the middle.
Hawyood must be retained so we need to keep the cap figure under control during the Summer 2010 free agency period. What we don’t want is a bunch of other teams with cap room circling around us like vultures waiting to pick off Haywood and/or DMac because we’re unwilling to pay a hefty luxtax fee. The way things stand now, assuming we land the #3 pick (and keep it) and we keep our 20ish pick next year, we’ll have a payroll of about $65M. The luxtax will probably be somewhere in the $65-68M range. That leaves us with just $0-3M to sign Haywood, even if we don’t trade for a veteran this summer.
If we, for example, trade Etan + #3 for Hinrich and the #16, we’d end up with a payroll of $71-72M next summer (well over the luxtax) before resigning Haywood. Abe would have to pay double to match any Haywood proposal. He might save as much as $20M by allowing Hawyood to walk. Given the way this organization has undervalued Haywood in the past, I don’t want to give Abe that temptation.
If we want to trade our pick for a veteran, we need to make sure the “filler” in the trade is Stevenson and/or Songaila – not Etan or James.
By the way, this argument also applies to DMac. DMac isn’t as important as Haywood (and he won’t cost as much to retain), but he’s a guy I’d prefer to keep around. Basically, a trade of our pick plus Etan for a veteran really amounts to us trading Haywood + DMac + our pick for a veteran. That better be a damn good veteran.
it's all about revenue
It’s so hard to tell what a team can or can’t afford. In Rook’s post about the economic viability of signing Bosh he makes the crucial point that a better team will draw in more revenue. Not just in ticket sales (regular and post season) but other areas of revenue such as merchandising. I have to guess in some cases, exceeding the luxury tax cap might end up boosting profits, but who knows especially in these economically trying times. But when you consider the Cavs ($90 million in salaries this season) offer to trade Wally Z’s expiring contract to the Wizards for Jamison, clearly big financial commitments are worth it for some teams. And I certainly don’t think of Cleveland as a big sports market.
I tend to think the Wizards should think very seriously about staying above the luxury tax cap, if they can get something with enough value in return (i.e. trade for a quality veteran and resign players like Haywood, McGuire, and Butler). Maybe Bosh is too much money, but what about Tayshaun Prince who makes about $5 mil less per year? They both are good enough to make the Wizards a championship caliber team.
Otherwise by all means let those expiring contracts expire.
I like Tayshaun.... but where does that leave Caron Butler?
CB is miscast as a 2-guard, as we saw last season. So, Tayshaun would have to slide to the backcourt, where no question his wingspan would wreak some havoc on defense. But how does he fit into the offense from the 2-guard? Better we go for a true 2 as it were.
Less than 2 weeks to the ping-pong balls.
good question
I would put Tayshaun at the 2, but I haven’t watched him play nearly enough to know how successful he’d be at that position.
>Less than 2 weeks to the ping-pong balls.
Yep, when all this speculation may be moot if the Wizards draw the #1 or #2 pick.
by Johnnie Futbol on May 4, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Only two weeks?
Do you know when exactly they’ll do the lottery? I haven’t seen anything about the ping pong ball ceremony yet.
by pantslessyoda1 on May 4, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
I think Prince is a better version of Jared Jeffries…
A big defensive guard, that can hit the 3-point shot… and slash to the basket.
Seems like the perfect fit… He can guard the big guards and SF’s (LeBron, etc…) – bring some Offense, without being a high usage type guy… help on the Offensive and Defensive boards… hit the open 3…. and run on the break.
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I don’t think he can guard Lebron. It’s not his defensive ability, it’s just now become a mental block since he has crushed Prince so many times.
Possibly
It could also just be a matter of strength; long, kind of finesse-y guys tend to have a lot more trouble guarding Lebron than the stronger ones. Like, during the Houston game a month or two ago, Ron Artest seemed to give him a lot of trouble, whereas Battier (who’s still stronger than Prince) was less effective. Tayshaun’s got the perfect body and style for messing with people who rely on their jump shot a lot since he’s so long and fast, but big guys seem – I say seem because I don’t watch a ton of non-playoff Pistons games – to bully him. I’d honestly rather have Caron, Dominic, or Dray guard Lebron than Prince (who’d be perfect for Mo Williams if Gilbert’s feeling lazy).
by pantslessyoda1 on May 4, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Artest does a good job
but Houston also plays solid team defense too. And Prince, with a good defensive center behind him like Haywood, would do much better than with, say, Kwame Brown defending the rim.
Raptors, Pistons, Wizards
I read somewhere that there might be some interest involving a trade between the Raptors and Pistons involving Chris Bosh and Tayshaun Prince. One difficulty the Wizards would have with trading for Prince is the Pistons aren’t looking to rebuild – they still want to compete in the playoffs and for the champioship. That’s why Chris Bosh would be enticing to them, moreso than a draft pick certainly. On the other hand, perhaps the Raptors would be more interested in a high lottery pick, especially if they’re losing players like Bosh & Marion.
So maybe a 3-team deal could work? Something like this:
Pistons get Bosh.
Wizards get Prince.
Raptors get the Pistons and Wizards #1 picks.
And then various contracts (expiring contracts, young prospects, solid role players, etc.) are thrown in to make the deal more legit and fair for all sides.
by Johnnie Futbol on May 5, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
fwiw
I think the assumption here is that the pick is 3 or lower. I imagine most people would rather keep Rubio or Griffin than make a trade if the Wizards get the 1 or 2 pick.
by Johnnie Futbol on May 5, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be a tough call
I think Prince would be a great fit, but I don’t know — I might still rather have the pick.
Speaking of trading a potential top choice
Here’s an interesting post by Michael Lee on Wizards Insider.
yeah it's a tough call
Lee’s article is very good, though I do believe some #3 picks are more valuable than others, depending on the quality of each draft, so a GM should judge on a draft by draft basis. Frankly, I happen to think there are three top-tier players available this year: Griffin, Rubio and Thabeet. After that there’s a significant drop-off.
In any case, I agree it’s not an easy call what to do. I’ll be optimistic about next season whatever they do with the pick.
by Johnnie Futbol on May 5, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Lee made too many stretches to support his point
For example, it’s wayyy too early to tell whether the Aldridge/Tyrus trade was a miss. Tyrus is really good when he gets his chances; the Bulls just have a vendetta against him. The whole “LaMarcus Aldridge would have given Chicago the low-post scorer they needed” meme is so inaccurate as well. Aldridge shot just as many jumpers as Antawn Jamison this year. Tyrus is also over a year younger than Aldridge. That one is much closer to a push that Lee describes it.
Many of Lee’s pushes are closer to hits too. He’s calling the Danny Ferry/Ron Harper trade a push, even though Harper was an all-star caliber player for Cleveland and was a really solid starter on two Clipper playoff teams. Ferry, meanwhile, was mostly worthless. And the Hersey Hawkins/Charles Smith trade was way better for Philly than he makes it seem; Hawkins was an all-star for the 76ers as they experienced two second-round playoff appearances.
The data of trading a top-three pick is really more mixed than Lee makes it seem, to me.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
yup
We’ve got some time yet before we start wondering what we could get for auctioning off the #2 pick. For right now, we’re talking about the odds of moving 3-5.
My guess is that Thabeet with his height, continued improvement and shot blocking will be the desired guy at 3 with Jordan Hill/DeRozan/Evans/Harden the next tier. Teams have to really want these players to make it a worthwhile deal.
This is a mediocre draft anyway. That has to be taken into account. #5 in this draft doesn’t get you a Ray Allen talent this year. #3 probably won’t either.

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