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There's so much interesting stuff out there today that I figured I'd consolidate it into a link dump. A few of these links have already been included in FanShots, but I figure there should be one place for all of them.
-Amare Stoudamire as a Wizard? It's probably a fantasy, but Amare himself is doing nothing to kill those hopes. He was on the Junkies today and said he'd love to play in D.C.
"Um, I love D.C., quote, end quote," he said, eliciting oohs and ahhs and a follow-up question about how he sounded interested by this prospect. His answer?
"I love D.C, quote, end quote," he repeated. (Listen here)
"I'm going into my eighth year in the NBA, and it's time for a championship," he said moments later. Joking aside, he was asked how far away the Wiz were from contending for one of them trophy things.
"You might just be a No. 1 jersey away," he said. Well, that ought to calm down those fans and their wacky dreams.
It all seems like a publicity stunt, but it's still fun to hear that someone wants to play for us. Of course, Mike Jones has to remind us all that this has "no legs." But let's say this does have legs. Dear community, what would you give up for Amare Stoudamire?
(My best offer is Jamison, Blatche, #5 and Etan for Amare and Leandro Barbosa. I have no idea why the Suns would want Jamison, though.)
-Pre-draft musings: Stephen Curry's stock is rising. We already mentioned Draft Express' report that Larry Brown of the Bobcats loves Curry and might want to trade up for him, but there's more. The New York Post reports that Donnie Walsh of the Knicks loves Curry (surprise, surprise), and according to Chad Ford, Curry really impressed teams with his ball-handling on the first day of the pre-draft combine in Chicago.
-Michael Lee has interviews with the major prospects in contention for the Wizards here and here. The quotes are pretty well-packaged by the players and it's tough for me to take too much out of them, but I did find it interesting that DeMar Derozan is supposidely a prankster along the lines of Nick Young. Probably a stay-away.
-One guy who is rising is Jonny Flynn, at least according to Ford.
Flynn continues to generate buzz with his combination of speed and power -- even if he was the shortest guy on the floor. Every GM I spoke with now sees him as a lottery pick, with many projecting him in the Top 10.
I never liked Flynn as a prospect, to be honest. Seems like he shoots a bit too much and not particularly efficiently. There's a team out there for Flynn, but I don't think it's the Wizards. Perhaps one that needs scoring from their point guard.
I did find this quote from Lee's interview with Flynn funny.
"I have some characteristics of Chris Paul. His tenacity. He's hard as nails. He's tough guy. He fires his teammates up. He's one of the best playmakers in basketball. Really knows how to get his teammates the ball in positions where they can score. That's a sign of a great point guard. Getting into the right position where they don't have to do too much to score the basketball."
Hey, at least he's got confidence.
-Ford also comments on the winners and losers from the pre-draft measurements.
-Switching gears, Charles Barkley has apparently endorsed Eddie Jordan for the 76ers job.
"I think Eddie Jordan would be a fine choice," he said. "They're going to have a good, solid team. They're pretty much stuck with the team they've got for the next few years, because they're paying [some] guys so much money. I think he's a helluva coach. He did a good job with Washington. That team probably overachieved. Him getting to the playoffs every year, people started thinking they deserved to go farther, but they weren't that good.
I obviously disagree with Barkley's assesment of the Wizards, but I do think he fits in pretty well with the 76ers, the more I think about it. He'd probably play Brand at center and go small, but that might be what they need, because Samuel Dalembert is underachieving and doesn't make enough impact on the game. Going big also did not work this year, so maybe a chance is necessary. Hmm...
-Canis Hoopus, our Minnesota Timberwolves blog, put together a spectacular post about the moves Minnesota should make. Stop-n-Pop believes the Timberwolves and the Wiz are great trade partners and proposes a couple deals.
Coordinate trade with Washington for the #5 pick. Package one: Mike Miller, Randy Foye, and the rights to Nikola Pekovic for Etan Thomas, JaVale McGee, O. Pecherov, and the 5th pick. Less complicated option is Miller for Thomas and the rights to the #5 pick (to be completed after draft day).
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I also really like the idea of working out a deal with Washington involving Miller, Foye, and Pekovic. The Wolves could even throw in Gomes if it would allow them to walk away with the 5th pick and McGee. Foye is a problematic player. He's good but he's limited and limiting. He's a 6th man on a team that bought him as a 1b starter. It's time for a new start and a backup to Gilbert Arenas seems like a good place for that to happen.
I've already posted a ton in the comments about how McGee's way too valuable to move for that package. Randy Foye doesn't do anything for me and Nikola Pekovic is a complete unknown, whereas we at least know McGee has shown potential to be a difference maker in this league. However, we both seem to be pretty open to swapping the fifth pick for Mike Miller as part of a larger package. I'd probably do Miller for Etan and #5 if Minnesota gives us the 18th pick back as well, or take Ryan Gomes on instead.
-I have no idea how reliable this is, but according to a site called Chicago Bulls Confidential, Chicago is actively shopping Kirk Hinrich (via Blogabull).
Sources close to me have told me that Kirk Hinrich will be traded sometime before next season starts. His status seems to be independent on whether the Bulls are able to bring back [Ben] Gordon.
Minnesota apparently wants Kirk as well, so any offer we make has to trump their's. That might be tough, considering the cap relief the Wolves can offer.
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Great post
The Hinrich thing is the most interesting part. Aside from cap relief, I think that the only thing the TWolves can offer that Chicago would want is Mike Miller, but is he really that good? Hinrich’s not an all star, but he’s as good a role player as anyone in the league, and he’s versatile enough on both offense and defense that he might even be as valuable as Battier. As good as Miller is, too, I don’t think he’d be as valuable to the Bulls as he’d be to us. Chicago’s got a major logjam on the wing, with Ben Gordon, Deng, and Salmons all competing for minutes, so why would the Bulls add yet another high scoring wing? Chicago ought to look into acquiring a scoring big man (some combination of Hinrich, Salmons/Deng, and Tyrus Thomas for Chris Bosh makes total sense for both teams), not someone like Mike Miller. Washington, on the other hand, could use him as an efficient sixth man or as a replacement for Caron (Mike Miller gives you almost the exact same thing as CB3 as far as all-around game, he’s just not quite as good) if we do another deal.
I think all Chicago wants is cap relief, to be honest
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
So
You think the Wizards could obtain Hinrich without giving up the # 5 pick?
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
That'd be even better
Cap be damned, Thomas and James or Stevenson for Hinrich would make us an amazing team, especially if we were still able to trade the pick for either cap relief or a Gortat-level role player.
by pantslessyoda1 on May 29, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus
Chicago probably doesn’t want to get much younger, so I can’t see them really finding much use for the pick. Maybe they could use it on Jordan Hill?
by pantslessyoda1 on May 29, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Miller = Butler (almost)?
Gotta disagree on that.
by MR on May 29, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he meant
That he’s a 3 that has a solid all-around game (I think he has a couple of triple-dubs)—sorta like a homeless man’s CB3. I can see it.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on May 29, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, exactly what I meant
Their rebounding and passing numbers are similar, Caron’s just better. Completely different style of play, though.
by pantslessyoda1 on May 30, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Suns fan here
You are correct about the Amare to DC rumor; it was all over the local sports radio in Phoenix today. They were proposing a scenario where we send Amare (Barbosa is out of the question, Suns are not moving him) to the Wiz for Butler, Young, Mcgee and your 5th pick. We could probably throw our 14th pick in there to sweeten the deal. What do Wizards fans think?
So...
You don’t think a healthy Arenas, Jamison, and Amare could be a threat in the east?
by Funky Flapsack on May 29, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't say that
I said that’s too big of a package for Amare. Take out McGee and we’ll talk more.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
'Dray, Butler, Young and the 5th
For Amare and the 14th?
HEEEEEEEEEEELL No.
Waaaaay too much for a dude who can’t rebound or play D.
Representing DC with Wizards & Stuff - Truth About It.net and Bullets Forever.
Not to mention his eyeball is damaged
Looks like Amare’s not worth as much as Suns fans think. Just wanted to gauge your guys’ opinion on the rumor. Thanks
by Funky Flapsack on May 29, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
In his defense
He’s become kind of underrated, and you’d probably be able to get a lot more for him at the trade deadline when he’s averaging 25 and 9 with a true shooting percentage over 60.
by pantslessyoda1 on May 30, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely too much
I think Amare for Jamison, Young and the 5th would be much more realistic starting point. I love Amare, but he alone isn’t worth 3 very valuable pieces (Butler/McGee/5th pick) and one good one (Young).
That said, I think that Jamison/Blatche/5th for Amare and Barbosa isn’t near enough from the Suns’ perspective; we gotta drop Barbosa or really sweeten the pot.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on May 29, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I find it hillarious
what fans/bloggers think about trades. My spare parts for your all-star. My all-star for your all-star, high draft pick, and young prospects. We here are as guilty as anyone. Nothing wrong with it, I find it fun…but Kwame for Gasol doesn’t grow on trees.
It's like that point in your high school senior year..
swhen exams are done and it’s a few days to graduation, the weather is nice and you have lots time on your hands to BS with your friends…. Hmmm, that’s right about now, isn’t it?
OK
1. If the Wizards could get Mike Miller, Gomes and 7 for Blatche, an expiring, and 5, that would be a pretty reasonable deal.
2. If the Wizards could get Amare Stoudemire and 14 for Blatche, Young, an expiring, the 5 and next years first rounder, EG should do it in a heartbeat (presuming Amare passes a rigorous physical by, uh, competent doctors),
I do not see giving up Jamison or McGee as a possibility here.
I wouldnt mind giving up Jamison
But why would the Suns want him?
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on May 30, 2009 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Robots would always be reasonable with their trade ideas
unfortunately, we’re human. damn.
Representing DC with Wizards & Stuff - Truth About It.net and Bullets Forever.
What we should do
Mike Miller is not the same player that came out of Florida he has got old and doesnt seem like he wants to play anymore (to many years in Memphis). I’m not really for Hinrich I actually want J Crittenton to develop into our backup for GIl but if we could get Hinrich without the #5 or a player of value then good.
As far as Stoudemire is concerned I say we send A Jamison, Blatche, and the #5 for A Stoudemire straight up. The money is right. This is what we should be shopping for A Stoudemire and C Bosh. Take C Butler off the market teams shouldn’t even consider him or Gil but everybody else is fair game. I like N Young but if they want him to get a deal done let him go.
I also think if we cant move the #5 take either J Hill or J Harden. No way in hell we take Rubio. I say we hold on to E Thomas and M James there contracts are over at the end of next season and we have a team option on O Pecherov. With those 3 off the books we roughly have around 15 M. If we trade it should be D Stevenson or D Songaila I know they have no real value but combine they make abround 7 M. If we could pakage them 2 for an older player who makes around 7 M and has a expiring contract at the end of next season that should add to the 15 M(D Milicic makes 7 M and his contract is over after 2010 season). Remember these contracts are over the summer of 2010 when the best free agents are out there.

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