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The Wizards can still get Rubio

As you can read here, the Wizards and Thunder have been talking about swaping picks - with JaVale McGee and the #5 pick going to OKC and the Wizards getting the #3 pick...

 

The Grizzlies, who pick #2 are strongly leaning towards Thabeet. Memphis has a very young team – their Owner really likes Thabeet…. He wants the team to be “tougher”…


With 7’3" Thabeet at Center and 7’2" Marc Gasol at PF, they’d be able to match up with ANYONE on the front line. And talk about tough... it would be tough (make that nearly impossible) to score inside on that duo.

FROM Chad Ford’s article on ESPN:

the Grizzlies are strongly leaning toward selecting Hasheem Thabeet at No. 2.

The reason?

Several sources told me that owner Michael Heisley loves Thabeet. He wants the team to be tougher defensively and thinks Thabeet would give it the shot-blocking and size it desperately needs.

I’m told that the rest of the Grizzlies’ front office is partial to Rubio, but as we’ve seen the past few years, Heisley runs the show in Memphis.

 

The Clippers have already declared they're taking Blake Griffin with the #1 pick.

If the Grizzlies pick Thabeet with the #2

And If the Wizards make the deal with OKC for the #3 pick - - - - - - - WOW

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Do it, Arenas moves to SG. Rubio is worth it…maybe.

by Fundefined on May 21, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd be for it, so long as we wait until after the draft to do it

Don’t want to risk being stuck trading Javale and a pick for Thabeet. Hell, I wouldn’t even do Javale for Thabeet straight up, but then again, I guess I’m kind of a homer.

Rubio would be great in DC, too. Especially with Obama and America’s rehabilitated image abroad, it would be great to have maybe the most easily marketable European player ever. We might even be able to bring in enough extra revenue to go over the cap down the line.

by pantslessyoda1 on May 21, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Hell, I wouldn’t even do Javale for Thabeet straight up, but then again, I guess I’m kind of a homer.

I wouldn’t either.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on May 21, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it happened

It would happen on draft night, AFTER the Grizzlies pick….but before the Thunder picks….

Grunfeld doesn’t want Thabeet either….

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on May 21, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

By the way

Does Memphis really need two 7+ foot guys who play near the basket? Gasol and Thabeet don’t really seem like a great match, although if Thabeet could develop a solid 15 foot jumper, he could just hang out at the top of the key a la Camby.

by pantslessyoda1 on May 21, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I dunno

LA Lakers seem to make it work… with Marc’s brother Pau.

Marc Gasol is mobile enough to guard the big PF’s in the league… He might have trouble with some of the smaller, quicker ones that hang out on the perimeter (like Antawn Jamison)…. but so does Pau….and the Lakers make it work

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on May 21, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

besides

who cares – If the Owner of the Grizzlies wants to interfere with the Basketball guys (GM, Scouts, etc…) then I say – let him.

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on May 21, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

7 footers

I think Memphis has four 7 footers already. Don’t they realize height does not equal talent.

AKA - 4D

by daddydai on May 21, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

By the way

Whatever happened to Haddadi (sp?)? He was supposed to be great in the Olympics, and I know Memphis had to work hard to get him out of Iran. It seems weird that he wouldn’t play much and/or suck.

by pantslessyoda1 on May 21, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn't play much - and he sucks

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on May 22, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't trade JaVale for the chance to move up two spots in the draft

I’m sorry, but with the season he had and his age and potential — no way.

Anyone else, though, is fair game. Even Arenas.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on May 21, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Yea i'd much rather it be Blatche

but what do you mean by

“Anyone else, though, is fair game. Even Arenas.”

by lj15 on May 21, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm willing to trade anyone else on the team for Rubio

Potentially even Arenas. Though I’d have to think long about that one.

Just not JaVale.

I honestly don’t think this rumor has much legs. It seems clear that OKC isn’t really enamored with getting Rubio, because they don’t know what it’ll mean to Russell Westbrook’s development. They’re feeling out trade offers and probably called the Wiz to see what it would take. They probably asked for McGee. I doubt the Wizards would honestly give up McGee just to move up two spots.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on May 21, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont agree with that

I wouldnt even have to think about whether I would give up Arenas for Rubio. According to Draft Express Rubio does not want to go to Memphis or OKC. So we’d be moving up to get Rubio, not just moving up just to move up.

by lj15 on May 21, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arenas' health is the only thing that makes me pause

If we get the old Arenas back, no way in hell I trade him. If his game is affected, that’s another story.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on May 21, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

would need some work but how about...
Potentially even Arenas.

#5
Arenas
Blatche

for

#2
Mayo

Rubio
Mayo/Young
Butler
Jamison
Haywood/McGee

by dt3 on May 22, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Though I will say

Getting Rubio and Mayo back is a pretty good haul for Gilbert.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on May 22, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, nevermind

Forget the above comment. I forgot Memphis has cap room to absorb Gilbert.

Hmm…. take Blatche out and I’d think about it. Arenas and #5 for Mayo and Rubio.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on May 22, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

This might work...

It would eat up most of their cap space.

AKA - 4D

by daddydai on May 22, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

In a perfect world

We’d be able to trade Blatche + our second rounder + a future first rounder for Rubio. We’d get rid of our logjam in the front court without losing our center of the future, rid ourselves of Blatche (who’d excel in Oklahoma’s up-tempo system) and lose picks that we most likely wouldn’t have much use for since we need better players, not more.

by pantslessyoda1 on May 21, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blatche + our second rounder + a future first rounder for Rubio

so in perfect worlds other teams just lay down and give the wizards what ever they want??

The Pau Gasol trade just called, it said that is ridiculous

by dt3 on May 22, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so...

I heard Blatche had some problems with the law. Not the kind of character Presti looks for.

AKA - 4D

by daddydai on May 21, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Check out my assessment of Rubio

There were only two players in the entire draft that I thought could come in and make an immediate impact on the Wizards this season. Blake Griffin and Ricky Rubio.

With Haywood back, and Blatche as the backup (and presumably Etan Thomas healthy again), I doubt that JaVale McGee will even sniff enough court time to make any kind of difference this year for the Wizards. (Unless he puts on 30 pounds of muscle over the summer, and learns the Zone principals of Flip Saunders Defense during Training Camp)…

Here’s my Draft Prospect assessment of Ricky Rubio
Since I wrote that piece, he has gone on to average over 6 assists per game, and over 2 steals per game (in only 21 minutes) while leading the EuroLeague in 3-point shooting at 49%

The only comparisons I can make is that he reminds me of Steve Nash, except he can play defense… not just play defense, but he’s a very good defensive player (ACB Defensive Player of the Year)

He has a 6th sense on the Basketball court…seeming to know exactly where everyone is and where they WILL BE…

Imagine passing on a potential trade of the 5th pick and JaVale McGee.for Chris Paul … or saying “no thanks” to drafting John Stockton. And NO, I don’t think I’m being overly optimistic here. The kid is THAT good. Potentially MVP good. Potentially HoF good. THAT good.

Ricky Rubio will be a super star in the NBA… not because he can make the fancy pass… or because of his YouTube highlights… but because he’s been dominating Professional Basketball in Europe for the last 3 years…. the second best PROFESSIONAL League in the World – This is not the NCAA folks… ask Brandon Jennings. These aren’t kids – they’re grown MEN playing professional basketball. And he’s been DOMINATING as a teenager !!!

I just didn’t think, after Wednesday, that the Wizards had a chance to get him.
Now they just might have that chance.

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on May 21, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are still quibbles and nitpicks

His 2pt FG% is pretty awful (sub 40%), and those three point attempts are pretty rare. (And have fallen back to 42% from the Euro-three line).

Effectively he can hit a wide open shot but isn’t so great at finishing except in the open court. He’s brilliant at creating for other people though and that’s key. It’s especially key in helping other players on the squad develop confidence. Okay I’d love it best if he were on the team with McGee as a finisher, and I’ve been looking forward to seeing the McGee/Arenas hook-up for the same reason. But realistically McGee will struggle to find minutes for a while behind Haywood because of how lost we are defensively without Big Wood.

Will Ricky Roll also struggle for minutes with Arenas on the squad? Not really, I hope we don’t play Gil 40+ minutes per game year round until he’s gotten back his legs and confidence and game. To have an uptempo creator on the second unit should help, and this sub-20 win year came as a direct result of our failure to find a back-up plan at Point.

Dunno though. Kid is nice, I’m not doubting that, and he’d sell tickets, but this draft is thick with PG prospects that I like who will come at a cheaper price. I’m not certain that Ricky = Championship. Though to be sure, free agents will like DC better with the idea of playing next to him, making htem look good.

Still, not sure what this does to Gilbert’s confidence that the team likes him as their top option ballhandler. Or what Gil might do to Ricky’s confidence (and to his own recovery) trying to prove who the alpha-baller is on the squad. But hey competition is competition, as Pro’s they can handle it. Even if Chemistry is always an important question mark.

Actually to me Ricky’s best asset may end up being as a trading piece for other teams that covet him who don’t have a spare 7 foot shot blocker. Essentially it turns McGee into a massively hyped prospect that dozens of teams have been scouting for years. Pretty sure you can use that piece to listen to upgrade options, with the consolation prize of keeping the kid if you don’t hear anything you like.

by doclinkin on May 22, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank Goodness

My source of reason on this blog agrees with me… I thought everyone would be jumping on this bandwagon…. I jumped the gun and posted my initial thoughts way below here.

by se7en on May 22, 2009 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is Rubio definitely coming over next year?

I remember hearing a while ago that it was possible or even probable to draft Rubio and keep him over in Spain for a year because of his contract. But I haven’t heard anything about this in a while.

If he isn’t coming over right away this could be a move to stay under the luxury tax and contrary to the “win now” approach.

by Aldo on May 21, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Unless

Unless they move a contract, the Wizards will be over the Luxury Tax whether they draft Rubio or not…

If they draft Rubio, and stash him in Spain for a year, they would avoid paying the tax on his salary -

BUT – they’re ALREADY over the tax, so Rubio wouldn’t “put” them over the tax….

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on May 21, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have an admitted man crush on Rubio and his game BUUUUUT....

I would love to have a talent such as Rubio on our team, someone who could hold down our backcourt for the next 10+ years and electrify the crowd in the process. HOWEVER I feel that we should by no means give up McGee for ANYONE this side of Kevin Durant. McGee, had he gone to a more well known university, and taken another year in college to get more seasoned, and stronger, easily could have been a top 3 pick considering his size and rare atheleticsim. Had he come out this year, this draft easily could’ve been a neck to neck race between Griffin and JaVale to see who would be picked first, just like last year with Rose and Beasley.

I feel that if McGee continues to take strides in the right direction, and takes the game seriously, he can be a periennial allstar in this league and a bonafide 20-10 guys for years to come. While this may be just speculation, and also may be helped by other factors,(Aka homerism/personal bias), I would much rather have a player like McGee, who has physical gifts that only maybe Dwight Howard can compete with, then a flashy point guard.

thats just my take on the situation.

Will I still be excited if the trade goes through and we get Rubio? I definately will, I just hope JaVale doesn’t bite us in the ass down the road, like the other PF/C’s(Rasheed, Big Ben, and CWebb) we’ve traded in the past.

by Big Rogg on May 21, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup

I just don’t think you can give up on McGee’s potential. It’s like the Anthony Randolph situation in Golden State — he does things you just can never believe, and his coach, for some reason, never gave him chances. Someone like McGee, if harnessed correctly, can change your team.

I don’t know if he’d go ahead of Blake Griffin in this draft, but he’d definitely go ahead of Thabeet and probably ahead of Rubio too.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on May 21, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m stunned (though not disagreeing) with the change in opinion of McGee this year. No way anybody expects you to say that a year ago.

by bronco6778 on May 21, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he definitely surprised me

I still don’t like the general “draft projects” strategy, but Ernie hit that one. About time. He’s whiffed on a couple before him.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on May 21, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt McGee would go ahead of Rubio.

It’s quite clear this is a point guard’s league. With the exception of Dwight, name another big man that has vaulted his team into elite status. Vision like Rubio’s will make your big men look better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on May 22, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

just hope JaVale doesn’t bite us in the ass down the road, like the other PF/C’s(Rasheed, Big Ben, and CWebb) we’ve traded in the past.

The biggest reason not to make this trade is youth. Not Rubio’s youth, but the youth that the Wizards roster is lacking overall. I think the Wizards should try to keep their young players that have potential, but as a fan of the Thunder I would love the trade.

AKA - 4D

by daddydai on May 21, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Wizards have a ton of youth

We have six guys on our roster under 24 (McGee, Blatche, Young, McGuire, Critt, Pech). It’s not OKC youth, but there’s a lot of youth.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on May 21, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t looking hard enough, I was just thinking of the bigger names on the roster.

AKA - 4D

by daddydai on May 22, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

However exciting I get for a McGee soaring dunk, a smart passing point guard with creativity could really ignite our sometimes stagnant offensive of dribble dribble dribble pull up jumper. Javale could be a Dwight-lite but I really want to see a humming offense.

by Fundefined on May 21, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Plus we've already got a decent center rotation when we're healthy

Haywood and Blatche is decent. It won’t win you a lot of games, but it won’t cost you many, either. We could also look into trading expirers and picks for Tyson Chandler, which would give us an even younger center who should be able to anchor the defense for another five or six years.

by pantslessyoda1 on May 21, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think I hate either way this one could go. What a nice situation to be in.

by bronco6778 on May 21, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

trade blatche

would blatche + mike james + 5th pick for 3rd pick and nick collison work out?

by wizchamp on May 21, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

It would work but why on earth would the Thunder do it?

by Fundefined on May 21, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

well it gives them a versatile foward who is young and has potential plus he can block ok. mike james will be a vet off the bench and his expiring contract could be valuable to them. they can do what they wan’t with the fifth pick. nick collison is under contract i think until the end of the 10/11 season his salary is around 6 mil. we would get a rebounder and rubio which would help us out a lot.

by wizchamp on May 21, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Westbrook

A lot of analysts are saying because if they get Rubio and move Westbrook to the 2, they will have a backcourt that can’t shoot/stretch the court allowing more chances for opponents to double/triple team Durant, which makes sense. They also seem to be enamoured with Harden who could fit in with their young players well, and with McGee they would get a Tyson Chandler type player they had hoped for in the trade earlier in the season. It would benefit them greatly, as long as Harden isnt taken by the Kings.

by Big Rogg on May 21, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i heard that the kings would probab;y take jordan hill or maybe johnny flynn since they already got martin at SG

by wizchamp on May 21, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never understood the fascination with Blatche, the Wizards are pretty much the only team that really sees potential in him. He isn’t a great value as a trading piece.

by Fundefined on May 21, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't agree with this

Blatche is a 22-year old big man on an unbelievably affordable contract with a ton of skills. If Kwame after being suspended for the 2005 playoffs can net Caron Butler, Blatche can net something good.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on May 21, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

Plus, other teams seem a lot higher on him than we do, maybe because they see the stats and potential more than the actual games. Like, Chicago seems to hate Tyrus Thomas, even though he’s still viewed as a potential star around the league, at least by the fans.

by pantslessyoda1 on May 21, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perfect summation of Blatche

If you look at the stat line, he looks OK….

But if you watch the game……………………………

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on May 22, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, But

Can we really expect NBA general managers to not watch the games before they trade for somebody? I think casual fans and the national media might think a player is better than he is, because they either don’t have the time to do all of the research or they were impressed with a couple of games that they saw. This may give us the impression that other teams “seem” to like a player, maybe because he gets a good word on another team’s blog. But is it realistic to think that a GM might trade for Blatche without doing any more research than say, Michael Wilbon? I hope the answer is yes, but I’m not so sure.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on May 22, 2009 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

That sums it up...
They also seem to be enamoured with Harden who could fit in with their young players well, and with McGee they would get a Tyson Chandler type player they had hoped for in the trade earlier in the season. It would benefit them greatly, as long as Harden isnt taken by the Kings.

Plus drafting two PG’s in consecutive years doesn’t make much sense. The Thunder are in desperate need of a big man. We could have drafted Brook Lopez last year, but we decided to fill our hole at the point. If we draft another point guard this year, it would be counterproductive not to fill our teams needs now.

Overall, I like this trade idea.

AKA - 4D

by daddydai on May 21, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Think You Are Making a Mistake

I’m all for drafting for need. But sometimes the best player available is so much more better than the BPA at the position you need, that you should just take the BPA and find a way to make it work. Everything I have read, seen, and heard about Ricky Rubio leads me to believe that he is going to be a star, maybe even a superstar. Do you really want to pass up that opportunity? I think the talent disparity between Rubio and Harden is significant.

That said, if you somehow manage to pry away JaVale McGee from us, then I will have no choice but to say, “Well played, sir.”

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on May 22, 2009 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Since Rubio is making a fuss about playing in Memphis, or OKC. The trade would make sense. Sure he is talented, but he would be a negative in the locker room (if he even comes over this year). I think he’d be happier in Washington, plus if he waits another year his buyout will cost a couple million more.

Honestly, I don’t like the Rubio’s TO’s. I think he’d have to tone his game down in the NBA. Maybe to the level of a Jason Williams type player.

AKA - 4D

by daddydai on May 22, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I Don't Get It

Why would Memphis want Gasol, Thabeet, and McGee? That has logjam written all over it. Unless they decided to let Gasol play center, Thabeet PF, and McGee as SF. It all just seems a bit redundant.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on May 21, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

No. The Grizzlies want Thabeet, the Thunder and James Harden and McGee. So Washington could have Rubio if traded by OKC.

AKA - 4D

by daddydai on May 21, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Silly me.

I meant The Thunder want James Harden and McGee.

AKA - 4D

by daddydai on May 21, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is Me That is Silly

I really should not post anything past 10:30 PM. My brain is well fried by then.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on May 22, 2009 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm against this...

Call me crazy, but I’m just not into Rubio. It took Nash 4 years to get good, and we don’t have 4 years. We need to win now. This guy is just a kid – I’m not saying he won’t be a fabulous point guard – because he just might – but he’s only 18 and the NBA is a different league. We’ve seen dominating players in Europe come over and flop.

We need to win NOW. Let’s not go out of our way to get Rubio. We needed Griffin, and we got screwed. Let’s move on – package this ridiculous pick and move on.

by se7en on May 22, 2009 2:40 AM EDT reply actions  

That doesn't really make sense.

Keeping Mcgee is NOT about winning now. Maybe Flip Saunders can get more out of him with consistent playing time but looking at his past, that’s not likely. Rubio is probably more ready to contribute right now than Mcgee is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on May 22, 2009 5:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm on the Fence

Rubio and McGee both have superstar potential. Rubio is more ready to contribute immediately, but at the expense of taking the ball out of Arenas’s hands and making him play out of position. I’m slightly leaning towards keeping McGee, only because he fits our needs a little better.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on May 22, 2009 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rubio Looked Pretty Good

Guarding Chris Paul in the Olympics. And that’s right now, not 4 years from now. Imagine how good he can be in 4 years? Steve Nash might be a bad example. Pete Maravich may very well be a better one (assuming he refines his jump shot).

That said, we should not give up JaVale McGee. His potential is just way too high at this point. If he’s still making the same dumb mistakes two seasons from now, then I say trade him. But at this point, he has so much potential to be great.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on May 22, 2009 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stop this madness

I can’t believe we keep comparing Rubio to Pete Maravich. Now I’m too young to have seen him play live, but my Dad’s favorite player is Pete Maravich. I saw lots of film on him, and I grew up watching his instructional videos.

Pete could shoot that ball since he was like 12. One of the best shooters in the game. Probably the best college player ever. I know he’s only 18 – but Rubio’s shooting sub-40% in the EURO leagues. And he’s going to get MUCH tougher looks in the NBA. Nash was a shooter, as well, at that age. You don’t just assume, “oh his jump shot will get better” – and then start comparing him to one of the greatest players ever.

Please, do NOT compare Rubio to Pete Maravich.

by se7en on May 22, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, Sorry

I think most of the comparisons between Rubio and Maravich revolve around court-vision and ball-handling. Maravich was a lot more than just a shooter, as you very well know from watching film. He could do just about anything he wanted with the basketball, and the film that remains of him amazes me to this day.

That’s where the comparisons to Rubio start. Remember, I’m not the first one to make these comparisons. NBA writers and executives have been drooling over his play-making ability for years. They tend to agree that he is no “Pistol” with regard to his shooting, and will never be. But they make the comparisons to the other parts of his game, with one writer even going so far to say that Rubio’s overall game is bigger and better than Maravich’s. I don’t agree with that, but I do think from watching video of both that there are enough similarities to make a comparison to those parts of their games.

But not with regard to shooting. That was Pistol’s greatest asset, and so the overall comparison was unfair, and I won’t make it again.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on May 22, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trade ANYBODY but McGee

Can you imagine Rubio lobbing passes to Javale for the next decade?!? That idea makes me so freaking giddy. Deep breaths, deep breaths….

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on May 22, 2009 3:13 AM EDT reply actions  

rubio/mcgee = nash/stoudemire2.0

by dt3 on May 22, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

I’m sorry, but I don’t ever see Rubio becoming a 2-time MVP or McGee having the scoring abilities that Amare has. Perhaps,

rubio/mcgee = nash/stoudemire beta2.0 – and I mean a really buggy beta

by se7en on May 22, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

And how many Sophomores in High School

got as much worldwide press and attention as Rubio?

Perhaps 2…. LeBron James and Carmello Anthony (and Carmello, only because of their rivalry throughout AAU and the recruiting process)

Not bad company there….

Have you ever seen Rubio in an actual EuroLeague game? (not highlights, but the entire game)?
Well, I’ve seen 9 (so far)… and this kid is the real deal. And even if you leave his YouTube highlights aside, and just look at the actual games… he’s an incredible talent. He’s the best Point Guard to enter the NBA since Chris Paul…. and who knows, he may be better than Paul. He’s definitely got the talent to be really, really special…

Every time he comes in the game, the complexion of the game completely changes. His team will be going through it’s normal Offense, then Rubio comes in and all of a sudden, his teammates are alert… running the floor…. cutting hard to the basket…. setting high picks…. setting low picks…. Running an NBA style Offense, instead of the European motion style. He doesn’t ALWAYS make the spectacular pass, but he ALWAYS makes the right pass. He’s incredibly intelligent; and I haven’t seen anyone with the kind of court sense he has since Magic Johnson. He absolutely KNOWS where everyone on the court is, and more importantly, where they WILL BE. He plays like he can see into the future. I got the same sense with Magic Johnson.

So his teammates know when Rubio comes into the game, if they move, he’ll get them the ball….
And Rubio finds them… either in a pick-and-pop or pick-and-roll situation… or on a back door pass… or as they cut down the lane… or for an alley-oop… He’s a triple-double waiting to happen every night. They’re still talking about his tournament in 2006 when he had three triple-doubles and a quadruple-double (actually achieved the quadruple-double in only 28 minutes of play). He had 51 points, 24 rebounds, 12 assists, and 7 steals against Russia in the tournament final.

He is only playing about 20 minutes a game (still recovering from a wrist injury) – but he’s leading the EuroLeague in assists, averaging 6.5 per game and he’s second in steals at 2.1 per game. IN 20 MINUTES per game !!!... at 18 years old… in the best League in the World outside the NBA…

Oh yeah – and he just was named the EuroLeague’s Defensive Player of the Year….

If the Wizards have a snowball’s chance in H E double hockey sticks of trading up to get him, they have to do what it takes….

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by Rook6980 on May 22, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not Logical unless Rubio is Trade Bait

I don’t see how/why the Wiz would do this.

I just don’t see this unless they are planning on THEN moving Rubio and Etan/James for a serious player.

The Wizards, before the draft, were not deadset on getting the #1 or #2. That’s a Snyder move, not a Grun move. We’ve got core players and a new coach. The Wiz got screwed in the draft, fine, but why take a leap to get Rubio? It’s too risky, and we are not desparate enough for either of those players. Look at the other top 5 teams; do you seriously think ANY of them are playoff contenders, besides MAYBE OKC?

This sounds like OKC, like someone else said, is merely shopping the pick, and posed this to the Wiz. The Wiz, knowing Grunfeld, will string them along to hide their cards.

by oatmealeater on May 22, 2009 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Damn. Made all my comments on the other post.

This trade will not happen. Bet on it.

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by Kyle Weidie on May 22, 2009 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Rubio yes, Thabeet no

I’m not convinced Memphis doesn’t end up drafting Rubio, but if they do draft Thabeet I’m in favor of the Wizards aggressively making a play for Rubio. The guy’s only 18 and he’s still only one of two players in this draft projected to make an immediate impact in the NBA. How many players are that good that young? McGee has ridiculous upside too, but he’s still a couple years away from being a real impact player.

This trade would make sense for both teams. OKC has more time to allow their young guys to develop. Washington is much more in a win-now kinda moment, yet with Rubio, Blatche, Young, McGuire & Critt the Wizards are solid for the future.

On the other hand if Memphis takes Rubio then a #5 + Blatche for Thabeet trade would make sense too. Haywood-Thabeet-McGee would be an impressive trio of centers, and McGee could get more playing time at the 4, which may be the better position for him anyways. I’d love to see McGee-Thabeet together on the court.

by Johnnie Futbol on May 22, 2009 10:59 AM EDT reply actions  

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