BF Draft Board: Pick #3
I know, I know, we could easily trade the pick, but with the Wizards getting the fifth pick and currently owning a high second-rounder, we need to fill out an official community draft board. Keep in mind, folks, that this is a Wizards-centric draft board, not necessarily a list of who you believe are the top prospects in the draft. This is in order of best fit to worst fit among the top prospects in this draft. Ability of course plays a role, but consider first and foremost how this player will fit with the Wizards.
I'm going to assume that Blake Griffin would get the #1 spot on our board and Ricky Rubio would win #2. Seeing as we don't have a top two pick, I don't see the point in having everyone vote for those picks.
We'll begin our draft board then at #3. I'll keep this poll open for a day, then we'll move on to the next spot. I'm hoping we can get all the way to 32 by draft day, seeing as there are more than 32 days left until the draft starts.
Fire away, folks.
(By the way, I hid the previous poll, since it was kind of redundant with this. Sorry to those who voted/commented).
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I am following the crowd
I think it will be Thabeet. Whether its the Former Sonics at 2 or they switch spots with the Grizz, Thabeet has to be the pick here.
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by George Templeton on May 20, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions
I went with size here
I am going against what I saw out of Thabeet throughout his college career, because honestly, I think he is quite soft. But 7’3 shot blockers are too rare to pass up, and we might be able to pick up a serviceable 1, 2, or 3 with our 2nd rounder.
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by Evander holyfield on May 20, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions
Jordan Hill?
Myself, and others have already begun campaigning for Harden, but a guy who I don’t know too much about, and am not high on at #5 on with what I do know , is Jordan Hill. Can anyone who has watched him play more then a few times make a case for him? Just curious if I’m missing something, he seems like a less athletic Wilcox to me, but like I said, I don’t really know.
I'm posting on Hill later tonight
Won’t be pretty.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Well, it's not only about Hill
Just Hill’s a big part of it.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Jon Givony makes a convincing argument that Memphis might take Thabeet #2
They’ve apparently spent more time up at UConn than any other scout and have more inside scoop about the Tanzanian devil than anybody outside of Storrs CT.
http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Jonathan-Givony/#Post-Lottery-Analysis-The-Implications-3220
Plus with Mike Conley on board, and OJ Mayo, I’m not sure that adding a PG is where it’s at for them. They’ve played that game before (with JC Navarro, Kyle Lowry, and our JCritter all waiting for their time with the ball).
Now smart money suggests that the Grizzles ought to try to shop the pick and see who bites. Some suggest Portland lusts after yet another Spanish point guard. Though another rumor says they wouldn’t mind making an offer to reunite Conley and Oden either. They like to spend money, the Grizz like to live cheap. Pretty sure a deal could get done here (rough sketch without checking salary: Pryzbilla plus cash plus picks for Conley; or Grizz selecting Ricky to reunite with his countryman MGasol).
Nevertheless a big defensive center may be in play for the Grizz, which could drop Rubio down to the Thunder, who already have Westbrook, and who also might prefer to land a defensive Big instead. (Though they may be inoculated against big africans by the Saer Sene selection). They’d probably take Rubio and listen to offers for the pick.
Sacto wants Rubio something awful. He won’t fall farther than that. IF they can move up to get him they will.
But either way it all amounts to the same thing: 1, 2, 3. Griffin, Rubio, Thabeet.
Number 4 is the big question mark.
Even with the Wizards though?
That’s the question. Is Thabeet really a better fit than someone like Harden? Not saying he is or isn’t, but that’s the consideration.
Overwhelmingly, it seems talent wins out, but remember, this is a draft board for the Wizards specifically.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
There ain't one.
Not Thabeet anyway.
My third best option is to trade down, lose awkward contracts, free up roster space, collect future picks. After Griffin I don’t like anybody at the top of the draft boards, except as trade bait. Even Rubio seemed like he could have earned us better value in trade than here.
I like players who look to be available cheaper, later, lower down. There are a few of those. In that respect, if we can’t trade our spot then hey maybe it’s better that we draft later.
I agree with you
I honestly don’t remember who I voted for, but it wasn’t Thabeet.
Unfortunately, you gotta put somebody on the third spot on our board.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
That came out wrong
I didn’t mean to force you to vote. I meant that somebody’s gotta occupy that spot.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Guys who will be worth their contract no matter where they are picked:
Ty Lawson.
For whatever reason the winning PG on the NCAA champions seem to keep getting overlooked. In this case it makes no sense whatsoever since TLaw has the best stats at the position by far. Best PG in points per possession, among the fewest TO’s per possession, most assists per possession (which can be attributed to the quality of his teammates, but also shows he knows how to play with big time players). He’s short but there’s nobody stronger for his size, can finish in heavy traffic, force fouls on the opponent.
This team has just gone through a couple years of misery because we lack a credible back-up plan as a floor general. Gil is working his way back to health, we hope, but it makes no sense to play him 40 mins per game all year long, better to spell him until he gets his Game back 100%. And Critt’s got potential perhaps, but he can’t shoot, doesn’t have top game management skills. Lawson has both.
James Johnson
My candidate for the Paul Pierce Award of player unfortunately overlooked in the draft. He’s a multi-talented strong 3 or tweener 4. High skill level, he’s got NBA-useable offensive gifts and is big enough/strong enough to hassle a guy like LeBron. His game would fit nicely with Flip’s offense, he’s effective from the mid-range on in, can handle, finish in close. Nice Pick and Roll prospect.
Maybe not a need position for us, but I don’t care about that. I’d happily take him as a ‘best player available’ after a trade-down.
Danny Green
Perimeter defender who can hit an outside shot. Can’t replace Dominic’s rebounding of course, but we’ve seen need for a Bruce Bowen/Tayshuan Prince/Shane Battier type. High IQ, right-place-right-time kind of player. If Dom develops a three point shot from the corner and a finishing move inside, well nevermind then, but until then it’s a team need.
Nick Calathes 6’5" PG
Tall outside-gunning nice passing (& rebounding) PG. A role-player on this team, but picture a Tim Legler with PG skills, a player like that can find a role on any team.
Darren Collison
Will be a solid mistake-free PG off the bench.
There are players with higher upside (I’d call Earl Clark the 3rd most talented player in the draft; and I’m in the tank for Curry to the point of calling my credibility into question) but the ones above have a ready-made role waiting for them and will produce immediately.
There are a ton of other players I like, with mixed expectations, question marks etc. Blair is a boom/bust player. I love Eric Maynor though he’s got the same ‘scrawny’ question marks that dog Stef Curry (and so what, I think they both succeed anyway).
But the guys above I’m sure of. They’ll have NBA careers. No risk.
You got it 'Doc
Except I would disagree about DeJuan Blair and I’d add Patrick Mills to that list…. because each has a skill that can immediately translate well to the NBA game…
Blair rebounds – you can’t deny that. And that’s a skill that ANY NBA team can use off the bench. He’s short for a PF, but he’s strong and has freakishly long arms. The Wizards need a high-energy banger; and I think Blair could be that type player.
Mills is lightning quick and has played on the big stage before (Australia’s Olympic team). He was injured in January, and that may have hurt his draft stock. Could be a steal as a late 1st round pick. Very athletic. Pretty shot. Can push the ball on the break.
I’d love to see the Wizards trade down, get rid of one of our poisonous contracts, and free up roster space…..
Draft either DeJuan Blair , Ty Lawson or Darren Collison in the 1st round (in that order, depending on draft position) ; and Danny Green in the 2nd Round.
Rebounding and Defense.
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I'd agree with Paddy Mills
But where I disagree on Blair is this: I said the above players will be worth their money ‘wherever they are taken’. Blair has gotten in a feedback loop of ‘so underrated he’s overrated’. I like him a ton, I had more fun watching him, Harden, and Curry than watching any other college player any other eyar. It made this Wizards season bearable.
But it’s fair to be realistic with Blair. His standing reach will let him play, he’s lost a good chunk of weight and built muscle. But as I said in the other post, the short PF’s tend to be vulnerable to fouls in the NBa. And Blair was a bit of a hacker in college. 4 fouls per 40 minutes at the college level. In the NBA it’s realistic to project him as a foul threat. Not a bad thing, dropping hard fouls on a guy who deserves it, nice to have off the bench as an intimidator, rebounder, gutpunch big man. Adds veteran-type cunning and attitude. But here, next to Haywood, he’ll need to learn a reliable jumpshot to see time on the floor. Otherwise he clogs the floor for Caron and Gil, leaves no room to drive. And if his defense isn’t a top strength, he’ll struggle to find minutes. Fouls and defense are the bane of young players.
Side issues: he has lost weight, but a large part (so to speak) of his game was his power and low center of gravity. Leverage. He’ll still be strong but you know, it might be like Samson’s locks… The real issue for me are his two knee surgeries before the age of 20. The lost weight helps there, but when we’re talking about drafting him to this team? With this medical staff? I get nervous.
I’d risk a pick on him if we trade down and pick up a guy at a need position. But if we pick him 5th, yeah it’s a risk, requires a bigger outlay of cap space on a guy that I personally don’t see as a future starter, given the personnel we already have. IF he were sharing the court with a skilled Big then he’d be a great fit. (Duncan, Garnett, Dirk, etc). Here, I dunno. I’m less certain that he can consistently fit his role, thus earn his contract.
Just my read on it.
Agree on Paddy Mills though. He’ll go late, and will produce.
No, NO, NO
Don’t pick Blair with the 5th pick…and I failed to read the TITLE of your comment….
I was assuming that we would trade down to pick Blair, somewhere in the middle of the 1st round…. NOT with the 5th pick…
So, now I disagree with some on your list… Don’t know much about James Johnson or Nick Calathes…
BUT – Collison and Danny Green are strictly late 1st round or early 2nd round picks. Not worth higher than that.
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
No, you do agree with me.
Difference is I don’t think any of the others will be picked ‘too’ high. I do think there’s a chance Blair is hyped into going higher than he might, that’s all. I don’t want any of these guys with the 5th pick.
Ty Lawson maybe, he strikes me as a guy that in a few years people might ask how the hell x-player was drafted ahead of Lawson. But since he’d be available a few slots down, it woudl be smarter to drop back and take him if he’s the best available then.

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