Simmons/Gladwell on Pressing
An email exchange between Bill Simmons and author Malcolm Gladwell got me thinking about the Wizards roster and the ability of a group of reserves to be a "press team" as Simmons mentions. Gladwell's story on "the press" can be found here: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/05/11/090511fa_fact_gladwell?yrail
So how would a pressing unit of Crit, NY, McGuire, Blatche and McGee hold up? Do they fit the criteria?
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Jheiser3
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It would be interesting
But I doubt it would work. If anything, it could just be a chance of pace, but they’d probably give up a ton of points and only force a few turnovers. I think NBA teams wouldn’t have much of a problem breaking a press, but I guess it could work with the right group of guys.
What do you think?
Also, I disagree with the general premise that underdogs have a better chance to win by installing a full-court press. In some situations, sure, it might be beneficial. But overall, the theory just doesn’t make a ton of sense.
by Matt K. on May 18, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I remember when Michael Adams and Manute Bol were on the team...
They were on a 2nd Unit that Wes Unseld would throw out there to try to change the pace of the game. The Wizards would press, and Manute would just stand in the lane daring, anyone who broke the press to try to score on him…
I think that a good pressing team needs a quick, pesky Point Guard that can really hound a ball handler. (Like Brevin Knight). Second, they need another quick guard to deny any pass to the SG. And third, they need fast wings to intercept passes. And of course, an elite shot blocker….
I can’t see Crittenton in the PG role… but perhaps as the SG… If the Wizards were to draft a small, quick Point Guard (like Darren Collison)
then a line-up like this might work:
PG: Collison
SG: Crittenton
SF: Young
PF: McGuire
C: McGee
Remember, the important thing is not what happens when the opposing team gets into their half-court set…. but what happens before that… So quick, fast wings (Young, McGuire) are more important than size (Blatche)…
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by Rook6980 on May 18, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
outside the box
I’ve seen this work in HS, my uncle is a varsity women’s coach at a small HS in PA. He watched some tape of an upcoming opponent (heavily favored) in districts and decided to press them, even using players off his bench that didn’t usually get much PT. They were down at half but not by much. They kept it up and their opponent fell apart in the second half.
Whether its pressing or some other alternative means of attack, the stats are there to show that if you have the inferior team and choose to go toe to toe with your opponent you will lose almost all the time. I guess the real question is why, when faced with almost certain defeat, teams don’t make any changes and just play it out and lose? Is it because coaches don’t want to go outside the norm, or admit that they have less talent or can’t win going toe to toe? I think there is some pride involved.
I also see good coaches recognizing this. Roy Williams knows his Carolina teams will have as much or more talent than their opponent. So they play as fast as they can because that means more possessions. If they were less talented then you want fewer possessions, less chances for the opponent.
Whats interesting to me is that only teams that are willing to admit they are inferior switch it up. My uncle knew they couldn’t win just playing half court. The other team was too big, too skilled. He needed more possessions and in those he needed to score at a higher percentage than normal.
I also consider the Princeton offense in college or even the spread in college football as ways of evening out the talent disparity through scheme. Your 11 may be better than my 11 but we’re going to get our #1 or 2 on your weakest player, make them cover in space and tackle in space. The spread allows for smaller, lighter O Linemen to block bigger, faster DL… Princeton knew that athletically they were inferior to other schools especially once they got to the tournament.
I think Simmons really hits on key points to using it in the NBA.
1, They have to be reserves, guys who’s desire to make it in the NBA outweighs their current contract.
2. It would be situational, focus on disrupting the opponent’s second unit. You aren’t going to press and get Chris Paul to turn it over a lot.
I could see Crit, NY, McGuire, and McGee, maybe even Songalia executing this strategy at times. With the NBA shot clock at 24 seconds the benefits of the press isn’t just that you may get turnovers or easy baskets. You get the added benefit of taking time off the shot clock while they are the farthest from scoring. If a team can regularly force their opponent to start their offense with 16 or fewer seconds on the clock that will have a direct effect on the quality of shot they can get.
It doesn’t even have to be full court pressure to get this benefit. It can be 3/4 token pressure just to make them think and react more instead of easily dribbling up the floor.
by Jheiser3 on May 18, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love outside-the-box thinking
but this topic needs a little clarification. Are we talking about using the up-tempo and pressing strategy in general, or are we just talking about using it in the NBA? I’m pretty sure that there are plenty of stories of youth league, high school, or college teams that decided to use a similar pressing approach to frustrate a favored team. If a team has the weapons and draws up the right game plan, then it definitely has a chance to work.
But in the NBA, as you’ve mentioned, you need the right kind of guys on the bench to install that kind of strategy. They need to be fast, smart, extremely athletic, not to mention devoted to such a plan.
I think Crittenton, Young, McGuire, and McGee could potentially form an interesting core for such a strategy. From what I’ve seen, they all like to run the floor and are very athletic. But would they commit to the game plan? I’m not sure; it’s tough to know that. Would they be open to it, or would they feel disrespected because they don’t get to play the same way as the starters?
I think such a thing could work against certain opponents, but I wouldn’t recommend doing it every game. As a change of pace, I’d be very intrigued to see what would happen.
by Matt K. on May 18, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting arguments on both sides
I think that it would work better against some teams than others. For example, pretty much everyone on Boston and Atlanta can pass, dribble, and run, whereas Cleveland typically only plays three players at a time who they would ever want to handle the ball (then again, would it really be worth it to risk giving Lebron a full head of steam when he’s attacking the basket.
by pantslessyoda1 on May 18, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone tried pressing Cleveland?
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on May 19, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't seen anyone do it
The teams that usually beat them seem to be slow-it-down types, which probably means that at least the starters would do well against the press.
by pantslessyoda1 on May 19, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
reserve
Again the key is to press the reserves who don’t have the high skill level of Lebron or Mo Williams. Daniel Gibson isn’t exactly the best ball handler. He’s out there with Wally World, Ben Wallace, Sasha Pavlovic… thats who you target.
by Jheiser3 on May 19, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I’d pay good money to see Wally Szerbiak try to bring the ball up the court against Dominic McGuire or Crittenton.
by pantslessyoda1 on May 19, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

















