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If you want to understand why the Wizards are 18-61 this season, all you had to do was see both Young and Blatche knock in shots for the Cavaliers while fighting for rebounds. I couldn't help but shake my head when I heard their reactions to the plays.

"I wish I could've got the points for it," Blatche said.

"I know. Me, too," Young said.

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Wow

Now is the time to find a new home for Blatche. He’s gone from project to a homeless man’s Cliff Robinson in record time. i don’t want him anywhere near JaVale with this attitude.

by Jheiser3 on Apr 9, 2009 10:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed.

Wholeheartedly….

Pawn him off on some other GM who sees his “potential”

If this team wants to win a title, they need a classy vet they can trust…..one who others will feel comfortable going to war with….Andray Blatche will never be that.

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by Kyle Weidie on Apr 9, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I've mostly come around to this

There’s still a part of me that says he’s stil only 22 and might put it together, but then I remember it’s his fourth year in the league, and look around and see guys his age or younger acting with more serious attitudes about the game.

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by Jon L on Apr 9, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Come on, guys

Blatche’s line sounds like he said it as a joke.

It’s such a broken record around here with fans. A couple years ago it was “Brenda needs to go,” now it’s Blatche’s turn to get dumped on. The guy is 22 years old and has improved every season, and this season has been one of the top 5 healthy players on the team (along with equally “knuckleheaded” Nick Young). Who knows whether he will continue to improve, or how high a ceiling he has, but to just write off a 22 year old 6’11" kid with great skills because he occasionally does and says the kind of stupid things we did when we were 22 is really short-sighted. Maybe he suddenly “get it” and be a real prize, or maybe he will continue to be immature. At 3 million a year, I think it’s an affordable risk. Unless your lack of patience dictates all of your actions.

Plus, don’t we all remember the last time the Wizards traded an immature 22 year old 6’11" kid because they were tired of his immaturity? Oh wait, the last time was Kwame — that worked out well. I meant the second last time (Rasheed) — that didn’t work out as well.

by disgrunted on Apr 9, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to believe this

but the Wizards also have a fairly narrow window to make this happen. Let’s say Blatche matures in two years. By that point, Jamison will be 34/35, Haywood will be 32, Butler will be 31 and Arenas will be 29. That’s a team that needs to win immediately, and will it happen? Maybe?

It’s also somewhat a question of roster management. Either Haywood still starts and McGee is his primary backup, or (hopefully?) McGee says “I got this.” Jamison might be a prime candidate to come off the bench then, but a.) he might not want to, and b.) the Wizards may have a player named Griffin at that point. So what happens to Blatche?

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by Jon L on Apr 9, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

A few responses to this

I hear what you are saying, and don’t entirely discredit it, but I do think it’s funny when people talk about a “window of opportunity” for a 18-60 team. More to your point, I see no reason why Blatche can’t be an 8th or 9th man on a team striving for a championship.

As for roster management, that wasn’t the point of this post. The post was “Blatche is a loser, get him out of town.” I agree that roster management is a big issue. If the Wizards land Griffin, anyone on the team over 6’7" can potentially be traded. My perspective is that if you have a 32 year old PF who might only have a couple of years left, it would be good to be grooming his replacement, and a talented 22 year old isn’t a bad way to go.

Finally, if Jamison refuses to come off the bench in a couple of years when his play is no longer starter-worthy, then doesn’t Blatche’s comment about scoring on his own basket look like the most innocuous thing ever?

by disgrunted on Apr 9, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh?

Jamison won the 6th Man of the Year Award with Dallas because he embraced the role of coming off the bench…..you think he wouldn’t do that again?

Come on.

And on the 8th or 9th man…..you want that guy to be ready to contribute immediately….you want that guy to always be ready.

Is Blatche that type?

I highly, highly doubt it.

To me, if Andray is 8th or 9th on a “championship” team, he’ll be the guy sulking because he’s not getting more minutes and more recognition….

Andray might be the type of guy who would complain because he “needs more time to get warmed-up”

……And you don’t want that type of guy coming off the bench on a so-called championship team.

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by Kyle Weidie on Apr 9, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Jamison would accept being a six man

at this point in his career.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Apr 9, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's my thought too

but who knows two/three years from now.

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by Jon L on Apr 9, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jamison has in fact said he doesn't want to come off the bench

And whatever the Captain wants the Captain gets!

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by George Templeton on Apr 10, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Link would be appreciated

as I don’t recall this.

Seems pretty random for him to pronounce anyway.

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by Kyle Weidie on Apr 10, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't recall it too well

But I do remember him saying something. My guess is that it was more that he wouldn’t come off the bench so Blatche could start, or something.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Apr 10, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember someone HERE saying it. But that doesn’t mean AJ said it. I’d love a link too.

by MR on Apr 10, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jamison and Dallas

The Jamison being unhappy as 6th man report originally came from an Ivan Carter post on Wizards Insider about Antawn lecturing Blatche about being on the “first bus” to the arena to warm up and work out. Jamison said something about not liking Dallas and wanting out. Can’t find the date of the post but it was sometime last year I think.

by hotplate on Apr 10, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems like a stretch

to go from that to “I won’t come off the bench”.

by MR on Apr 10, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Michael Lee was shaking his head

It doesn’t sound like a funny ha-ha scene to me.

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by Kyle Weidie on Apr 9, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair

I’ve had Haywood’s back for a long time. It was easy to see that he produced when given regular minutes and struggled when Eddie made it a nightly guessing game as to when and how much he would play. Blatche is something completely different. Don’t get the idea that I came to this conclusion based on that quote. That quote is just a sample.

Blatche is not the same case as Haywood. He is 6’11. He plays the 4 or 5. He averages 24 minutes and FIVE rebounds per game. Despite injuries to Haywood and Etan he has only NINE double digit rebounding games all season. His go-to move is a stand-still dribble while he shakes his head and shoulders back and fourth a few times from about 19 feet, followed by a shot or jump-pass. Its a huge concern that he has had all this experience and doesn’t seem any smarter or focused because of it.

Physically, he’s had 3 years in the NBA and he still looks like he did coming out of high school. Its not just about weight, its strength. He’s bulked up but he’s nowhere near as strong as he needs to be to play inside. Nor does he show a real interest in being a threat inside. If I’m reading this right, nearly 60% of his shots are jump shots.

He has talent for blocks but he’s almost as bad as McGee when it comes to going for shot fakes. Why? Is it about the stats as the quote suggests? because he’s a pretty bad defender and uses way too many fouls for his time on the floor.

Given that he’s already on his second contract, I don’t know how anyone can really anticipate huge jumps in his maturity or growth. He got paid. he’s years away from worrying about another contract. Whats the point in working at your game the way Gilbert does?

 A lot of the blame for the player that he has become falls on the Wizards, their development team and coaches. He is what he is. His skills will continue to get a incrementally better each year (the ones he chooses to work on, jump shooting mainly) but he’s never shown the work ethic or basic desire to WANT to be great. Without that drive all the talent in the world doesn’t mean squat.

Now we’ve got the point where he is somewhat of a ring leader for the young players. That’s why I draw the line now and find a new home for him. The McG’s seems like young men who want to get better and will put in the work. The last thing I want is for them to emulate Andray Blatche’s work ethic. No thanks.

He’s still got skills that other teams value though. Golden State comes to mind because he can pass well for his size. Someone will take on the job of squeezing blood from this rock. The low price tag just means we should get back a better quality player in return. Now is the time to move him, there is no doubt in my mind.

by Jheiser3 on Apr 9, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sigh. Just...sigh.

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by Jon L on Apr 9, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Me Ball...

Way to go Ed Tapscott.

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by Kyle Weidie on Apr 9, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m starting to think that one year of college is a good thing.

by Fundefined on Apr 9, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Interesting how things can turn so much in a week

Blatche and Young still haven’t changed. Sure, they act goofy, but they still play hard. Young has even shown some signs of improvement on defense.

Last night was just a bad game against a team with just one loss at home. It’s not like that game surprised anyone.

by Matt K. on Apr 9, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I take all of these quotes and comments with a grain of salt. We don’t know the context or the attitude of how it was said.

There have been a lot of quotes this season that have probably been misinterpreted and blown out of proportion.

As a “veteran” supporter and a “be tough with the youngsters” guy, I don’t really read too much into this.

by MR on Apr 9, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

We don't need to trade Blatche/Young/knuckleheads

we need a real coach. One who will demand excellence and institute a culture of winning, respect, and hard work. Caron/Jamison can only do so much; bottom line is that a coach is the only person with enough power over players to get them to buy into a system (Keven Garnett and Jordan perhaps being exceptions). Only problem, there aren’t many coaches like that out there, and there are less who can pull it off in the NBA.

However, this team won’t rebel against a disciplinarian. Jamison, Haywood, Butler, and the other vets will have no problem buckling down and buying into a system even if the coach isn’t a happy-go-lucky “players coach.” The rest of the players will follow out of necessity. The wild-card is Arenas, but I think he’s mature enough now not to rock the boat too much.

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by Icantfeelmyface on Apr 9, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

And yes

Maybe this means we need Avery Johnson. Only thing is, while he may be a “tough” coach and emphasize defense—things that this team needs—I’m not sure if he is a true leader, i.e., someone who can connect with the team and get them to believe in him.

Men (yes grown-ass basketball players too) respect leadership. You don’t need to be a nice guy for a team to buy into what you are preaching, you just need to be consistent, honest, fair, and lead by example.

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by Icantfeelmyface on Apr 9, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

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