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"Bottom line: Whoever gets that job -- and it's a good job if Gilbert is right and you come back with Butler and Jamison -- priority one is handling Arenas," said a rival front-office executive who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he did not want to hamper future dealings with the Wizards. "The thing you had to appreciate about Eddie Jordan was that he had a system that made the kid a star but he also handled all of his quirks. That's a rare combination and, now, the guy has that contract. There are some coaches who flat out could not deal with a player like that. So, whoever Ernie chooses, that coach is going to have to be able to work around Arenas. How that plays out is going to determine the direction of that franchise."

Wizards' Next Coach A Subject to Ponder - Ivan Carter, Washington Post

Ivan Carter's latest article is a highly recommended read if you've not already done so. He puts the soon-to-be well pondered question of Wizards coaching into a nice nutshell.

Whatever side you fall on the 'Eddie Jordan should not have been fired' argument, it doesn't matter now.

Ed Tapscott, in all honestly, was a bad choice, even if a temporary one. He has not been able to coax the team into working hard consistently, much less getting them to play consistently well.

That being said, Carter's article hints upon the theme that the players on the court are responsible for the goings-ons foremost, and not the coaches.

I'm not sure who said it during Sunday's NBA triple-header on ABC, perhaps grandpa Hubie Brown himself, but a great point was made about the NBA and leadership when referring to the integration of Stephon Marbury to the Celtics.

Essentially, in the NFL, strong player leaders can't maintain an entire locker room. The head coach should run the domain (unless you're Wade Phillips and the Cowboys -- I can't see that guy wearing the pants in his family much less having a commanding presence).

The NBA is a different animal. Veteran players hold just as much responsibility as the coach in bringing the team together. Case in point: Kevin Garnett.

Back in November of 2007, at the beginnings of a Marbury buyout by the Knicks (good lord, why did it take so long?), I wrote a facetiously natured post on Truth About It suggesting that the Celtics would be the best fit for 'Coney Island's Finest.'

It remains to be seen if the Starbury experience will work, but the opportunity in Boston certainly gives him the best chance to resurrect his career while he's contributing to championship hopes.

So, while in football, the coach, for the most part, provides the blue print, guidance, and drill instructions, NBA coaches must rely more on locker room leaders to implement the plan.

Not to say that Caron Butler and Antawn Jamison are bad leaders. But something has obviously been lacking from the side of the players, and not just the coach, or the GM.

Will a quirky character such as Gilbert Arenas, one who must be "handled" a certain way, sway the balance of leadership aimed towards consistency in a positive manner?

That may be asking a lot for a guy who wants to be a zero.

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Nice post. I agree with your sentiments wholeheartedly.

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by erivera7 on Mar 2, 2009 3:26 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good article by Ivan Carter

and I agree with your points too. I’m not sure how I’d feel about having Flip Saunders, Avery Johnson, or Sam Mitchell be the team’s next coach, though. I wonder if Grunfeld would hire one of them.

by Matt K. on Mar 2, 2009 10:05 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

EJ didn't handle all his quirks

“Arenas Scores 9, Criticizes Coaching”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/11/AR2007021100707_pf.html

So where do we go from here? Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, are guys you can build a team around and give them creative license over the team’s direction and win a championship. Is Gilbert Arenas that type of player? Or is he the Allen Iverson type whose street-ball disorganized offensive game combined with lackluster defense will be fun to watch but nevertheless get you picked apart year after year by elite defensive teams with a decent gameplan to guard him? If that’s the case, then maybe we need a coach who makes Arenas work around him rather than vice versa.

by morethesamewiz on Mar 2, 2009 10:17 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

In my opinion that's a little unfair:

First off, if he had a decent supporting cast AI would have won a title in Philly. As it is, in his prime he won the East. Sure there are a lot of situations he doesn’t thrive in, and at this stage he’s no longer a big asset, but let’s not forget that he was a winner.

Second, this comes down to whether GA will get shut down in the playoffs, where you have to play the same team night after night. If you look at his game logs over the playoff series in which he was healthy, all of which were against defensive teams ranging from “solid” to “exceptional”, out of 16 games he washeld under 20 three times (under 10 once), all against Chicago. Against CLE in ‘05-’06 he averaged 34. Sure we lost two of those series, but it wasn’t because anyone “solved” him.

(By the way, AI was held under 20 10 times in 64 playoff games.)

I’m not saying we’re going to win a title like this, but the issues are going to be GA’s knee, defensive scheme and supporting cast, not whether his game is good enough.

by RamVA on Mar 2, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Iverson is the 116th best player in the league?

http://www.wagesofwins.com/GladwellNewYorkerReview.html

Here is an interesting article written by Malcolm Gladwell, author of Blink and Tipping Point, that focuses solely on Iverson and whether his “greatness” holds up to deeper statistical analysis. I found it very interesting and hope you all do as well. It references a 2006 book “Wages of Wins” written by a trio of top economists who set out to solve “the Iverson problem.”
“The algorithm yields what they call a Win Score, because it expresses a player’s worth as the number of wins that his contributions bring to his team.”
Allen Iverson throughout his career has on average been the 116th best player in the league. In 2003-2004, he was the 227th best player in the league.

FYI, as of April 2008 there were 432 players in the NBA.

I would do a fanshot, but this is an old article and its specifically in response to RamVA’s comment.

by morethesamewiz on Mar 2, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

By the way

Gladwell could probably also make a convincing argument that AI was statisticly the greatest player of all time.

by MR on Mar 2, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Logical

Numbers can be made to say silly things…therefore any claim supported by numbers is false.

by morethesamewiz on Mar 3, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No

But we still have to use both sides of our brains.

by MR on Mar 3, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A strong coach

I think a strong coach in the NBA can serve the same purpose as the strong player in the locker room. Look at Riley or Sloan for example. What they need is for the team leaders to back him up.

I believe that the Wizards need a strong coach, not a “players” coach. The question is whether one is out there and whether he could get the backing of the team’s leaders. That is hard to do when you walk into a situation with an existing team and long term contracts etc.

by MR on Mar 2, 2009 11:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

A couple of thoughts

1. To my knowledge, Gilbert has never really had a strict, disciplinarian coach. It’s easy to say that he might not work well under a tougher coach like Avery Johnson, but I’m not sure that we can jump to the conclusion that just because he was this goofy character while Eddie Jordan was around doesn’t mean that he wouldn’t tone down his act with a tougher coach. But if I’m Ernie Grunfeld I’d definitely want to make sure that the franchise player was on board with whatever coaching decision I make.

2. This is probably my Gilbert-driven naïveté, but there’s part of me that believes that after giving back $16 million this off-season that he’ll be more willing to do what it takes as a leader to make sure that his decision to give that money back was worth it.

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by JakeTheSnake on Mar 2, 2009 12:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yes Gilbert has to be on board with the decision....

but that does not mean management should pre-emptively cave in and hire, say, Flip Saunders (whoever called him the white Eddie Jordan might be on to something)… Who knows, Gil might meet Avery and get blown away (oh wait…)

by khrabb on Mar 2, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate to say it . . .

because I don’t rate him as a coach, but Flip Saunders is probably the best hire for this team.

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by George Templeton on Mar 2, 2009 2:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree

The offense he runs seems to fit the Wizards’ personnel fairly well, and his defenses have been pretty good as well.

As for the others, Sam Mitchell is more of a motivator than a “plays” guy, which isn’t really what the team needs. Avery Johnson’s track record with PGs is short but atrocious. Devin Harris flourished after he left Dallas last year, after Avery Johnson basically had him walk the ball up the court while Avery called all of the plays. And recently I read Nowtizki saying that Johnson tried to make Jason Kidd into a different, more Avery-style type of point guard, which is insane. Who knows how he’d deal with Arenas, but I can’t imagine it would be for the better.

If those three are the candidates the Wizards are looking at, I think Saunders is the best choice.

by Jon L on Mar 2, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I've never thought he was a good in-game coach

I think he is too much of a players coach and when it came to the playoffs especially, I thought he was clueless (see his time in Detroit for the best examples). I have never liked him as a coach. He’s never had enough of an edge for me. Flip might make a decent college coach (because I think he would be good at the recruiting part).

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by George Templeton on Mar 2, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Avery Johnson is currently "winning"

In a ‘who should be next coach’ poll on Wizards Insider:

449 Votes

Avery Johnson – 34%
None of the above – 32%
Flip Saunders – 29%
Sam Mitchell – 3%

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by Truth About It on Mar 2, 2009 4:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i like avery johnson

but he is such a bad fit for this team

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by little stevie colter on Mar 2, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What makes him a bad fit?

I’m open to that argument, I just haven’t heard it fleshed out

by morethesamewiz on Mar 2, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I sort of made it above

Basically, in Dallas Avery Johnson slowed his point guards down and micromanaged their playcalling. That didn’t work for Devin Harris and Jason Kidd, and I’m not sure that will work with Arenas

by Jon L on Mar 2, 2009 6:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Look at what playing in LA has done to Baron Davis this year

That’s what happens when scoring point guards are forced to slow it down and let the coach call all of the plays. Plus, we’d have to bench Jamison in favor of Griffin/Monroe, too, in order to really play big and grind it out.

by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 2, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

also see terry porter in phoenix

i think he just wears on guys, quickly, in addition to the radical change in philosophy to a defensive-minded team.
i ‘m all for a better defensive team to root for, but i’m skeptical that 1) it would work with current roster and 2) players would embrace it enough.

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by little stevie colter on Mar 2, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Run and gun doesn't win championships

so even if Terry Porter took them from good regular-season play to .500 regular season play, he didn’t hurt their championship potential, because they never had any to begin with. They were never going to beat a couple of great defensive teams in a row in best of seven series to win the championship.
So if the Wizards can’t make some inroads in becoming a better defensive team, we are never going to be anything except fun to watch, and only up to the beginning of May when we get bounced from the playoffs by a solid defensive team in the second round.

by morethesamewiz on Mar 3, 2009 9:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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