Open Thread: Regular Season Game 69 vs. LA Clippers
by Jake Whitacre on Mar 18, 2009 8:30 PM EDT
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PrintWashington Wizards at Los Angeles Clippers, Mar 18, 2009 10:30 PM EDT
The Essentials:
Wizards (16-52) at Clippers (16-51)
10:00 p.m.
Staples Center
CSN
This year:
January 31: Wizards 106, Clippers 94
Notable Clippers numbers this season:
30th in expected winning percentage (.231)
12th in pace factor (92.3 possessions per game)
30th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (102.2)
26th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (111.4)
Key Links: (drop any others in the comments)
Clips Nation
Clipper Blog
Game Day LA
The Other Side: Clippers
| Tonight's Projected Starters | ||
|---|---|---|
| Wizards | vs. | Clippers |
| Player filling in for injured starter |
PG | Baron Davis |
| Player filling in for injured starter |
SG | Eric Gordon |
| Player filling in for injured starter | SF | Al Thornton |
| The Last Man Standing |
PF | Zach Randolph |
| Player filling in for injured starter | C | Marcus Camby |
Alright folks, I think you all know the deal: Tonight's winner gets to take on Louisville in the 1 vs. 16 match-up Friday night. Neither team has much of a chance of advancing past the opening round, but there's still some pride in saying you finished 64th, rather than 65th. We'll see how it all unfolds tonight.
This is an open thread, so if you've ever dunked from the free throw line, brag about it here.
GO WIZARDS!
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Nice comparison
I’m actually genuinely looking forward to this game. I haven’t seen a Clippers game anywhere other than Justin.tv this year.
Also
At this point, who hasn’t dunked from the foul line? Someone seems to do it in every dunk contest. I’m not saying it’s easy or anything, but it’s kind of stale. I won’t be impressed until I see someone dunk from the top of the key or the college three point line on the baseline.
The Clippers
Are easily one of the most forgettable franchises in professional sports.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
Songaila is starting tonight
Nice to see that he’s okay.
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Emphatically lazy
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by Jake Whitacre on Mar 18, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know if it was so much hustle on his part as it was a total lack of hustle on the clip's part
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
He’s started well though
by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Mar 18, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh, until he goes to the bench with his second foul
by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Mar 18, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
Sometimes I wonder how much, though
Yeah, he seems like an amazing ballhandler and passer sometimes, but he also turns the ball over A LOT when starts doing crossovers. It occasionally seems like a lot of guys could do the same thing, but they don’t because they know how many turnovers it would result in.
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 18, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Right
Blatche is a great passer, not a great dribbler. It’s possible to be one without the other.
Dray needs to watch tapes of Brad Miller.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Not seeing it
So much of what makes him good is the versatility he brings with his height although it might simplify the game in his mind if he was locked into one spot.
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by Jake Whitacre on Mar 18, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
But if he's locked into one spot
It should be closer to the hoop. He’s better when he is closer to the rim.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Agreed
He’s had to play a different position almost every year he’s been in the league. It can’t be too good for his development to go into the summer unsure whether to concentrate on bulking up, working on post moves, or working on his outside shot.
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 18, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
This is going to be a Taser dominated
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Could McGee be the quickest fast break center in the League right now?
Is there anyone else out there who’s faster than him on the break?
I can't think of anyone
off the top of my head.
by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Mar 18, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Dwight?
Thing about Javale, too, is that he doesn’t seem to move his legs that fast, but because they’re both about ten feet long, it only take him a couple of strides to get up the court.
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 18, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
If Songaila just stepped back one foot, he'd have a three there
Imagine how many more points he could score if he converted all his long twos into threes.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Was that a travel?
I don’t have Tivo so I can’t go back, but it looked like a lot of steps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
One foot makes that much of a difference?
If so, Darius needs to be in the gym every single day working on that jumper. He would become so much more valuable and efficient.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
I was thinking the exact same thing this morning
What’s his name on the Hawks, the small forward, basically went from being a great jumpshooter to a three point ace this year by doing that. It can’t be that difficult to add a foot or two to your range when you’re that automatic from 19 feet.
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 18, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that two steals from D-Song?
and Taser’s 2nd assist? These guys aren’t even playing traditional position roles anymore. On the other hand, we’re winning…
This is another Twilight Zone game
Wizards playing defense…
Songaila rebounding….
Jamison has not scored….
Moving without the ball….
Ball movement….
Hustle, desire and grit….
Is this the Wizards I’m watching?
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I don't know.
What I do know is it’s the Clippers we’re watching.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
He beat everyone down the court after his block
Also, I’m watching online, so I might be a little late to the party
by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Mar 18, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
There's the Mike James we've all come to know and love
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Damn, Javale
When did he start hustling like this?
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 18, 2009 11:04 PM EDT reply actions
When the Clippers decided not to box out
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Does anyone see that lineup?
Crit, James, McGee, Nick Young, AJ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
Novak cannot do ANYTHING except shoot 3 pointers
Literally, like 70% of his shots are from beyond the arc…. and the rest are long 2’s…
Just have someone stand next to him….. he won’t move much… and he certainly won’t drive or set a pick…
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WOW
Young, McGee, McGuire and Crit showing what the Wizard’s future looks like….
Should be a future full of Alley-OOP’s
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These clippers announcers sure love them some wizards. I don’t blame them for forgetting about the clippers
I could see him throwing lobs* to McGee
*air-balled threes.
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 18, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Nick Young got a dunk tonight....
He’ll score 20 or more tonight…
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Monumental Air!
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He did the Q-Rich/Miles headbump
I saw it.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
I thought he was doing the Red Rooster
But I only caught a glimpse of it.
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by Jake Whitacre on Mar 18, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
McGuire with a nice stat line so far
4 points, 3 rebounds, 5 assists and a steal
Boy, he just fills up a stat sheet.
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I really think he needs to start next year instead of DeShawn
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Did you ever think you'd say that?
a year ago? I’m amazed how well he plays at SG
by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Mar 18, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
different players
I like the tayshaun prince comparisons. I know he’s not at that level yet but their game is similar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
D-Mac doesn't have Tayshaun's offensive creativity
Taser’s game is more like Shawn Marion’s.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Not that he's anywhere near as good
But he’s the same type of player.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
He scored 20 a game before D'Antoni took over
The system helped, but he’s not entirely a product of it.
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 18, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
So ... what?
Where are you going with this?
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Positions aren't the same across the board
If D-Mac played for D-Antoni, he’d play power forward too.
Jared Jeffries played center for the Knicks earlier this year, for crying out loud.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Yeah
Just because someone plays a similar style to another player doesn’t mean they’re as good as them. Blatche plays a little bit like Garnett on offense, but he’s nowhere near as good.
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 18, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Regardless of who he's most like...
he’s really impressive. Remember Hollinger’s little piece on him at the end of last year?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
Only thing I've read on him by Hollinger
Is the scouting report on espn.com where he calls him the worst offensive player in basketball. Funny how much he’s changed since last year.
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 18, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, so Taser's offense isn't as good as a top 50 player of all time's
Buzzkill…
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
I think that's two games in a row
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by Jake Whitacre on Mar 18, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
What the F?
Can a team be this bad? I thought WE were so bad. I’ve never seen D this bad. Aren’t WE the ones on the second game of a back to back on a cross country road trip?
Tapscott's timout
about three possession too late
by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Mar 18, 2009 11:28 PM EDT reply actions
Legal Seafood Trivia
World B. Free and I have no idea on the other one.
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What is the question?
I have the Clips announcers (who seriously crack me up, they’re great).
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Who are the two 30 ppg scorers in Clippers history?
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by Jake Whitacre on Mar 18, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
In a single season of course.
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by Jake Whitacre on Mar 18, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Bob McAdoo
If you include the old Buffalo Braves.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Answer
It was World B. Free and Bob McAdoo.
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by Jake Whitacre on Mar 18, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
So Taps answer to our run is to put Juan Dixon in
Professionalism!
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Mike James draining long twos and getting rebounds?
What’s going on?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
in James' case
he’s really a shooting guard, and with Taser/Jamison running the offense, James doesn’t need to worry about point guard stuff
God I love these Clippers announcers
They’re cracking jokes at each other, it’s so great.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Pech in the 1st half?
This is REALLY a Twilight Zone game…
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Don't get too excited
it was less than one minute.
Would that have been an assist? He passed to McGee, who didn’t dribble but did stop before shooting. Anyone know?
OH NO. NO NO NO.
Webber and Payton are the worst thing I’ve heard on TV since Walt Frazier lost his slot.
This is horrible.
Clyde's alright
But I concur, GP and C-Webb are pitiful.
YELL YELL YELL OHHHH RONDOOOOOOOO JOE JOHNSON AHHH
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
They kind of remind me of morning radio crossed with a frathouse
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 18, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Except they don't actually speak any words
A lot of leaning in their chairs, OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! AAAAHHHH>!!!!!
and tons of guffaws…
What happened to commentators making comments pertinent to the games they are reporting on, in a language and manner that fans can understand?
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personally
I blame FoxSports. Things haven’t been the same since they decided to have a comedian do upset picks and an ex-model do the weather. Ever since, it’s like sports in general is more about bombastic hosts and outrageous quotes than, um the sport.
Maybe Clyde was alright for you
but I endured YEARS of him as my local announcer before League Pass came along. One game every so often, sure maybe he’s amusing. But every night? Ugh. I actually got embarrassed for the guy.
Clippers TV has some Ping Pong Math
Chances of landing #1 overall pick (current standings):
Sacto 25%
DC 20%
Clips 14%
Memphis 14%
OKC 8%
and the rest just goes to the Knicks or something.
I don't know why
but every time Songaila takes a shot I get upset.
by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Mar 19, 2009 12:02 AM EDT reply actions
His shooting isn't what bothers me
It’s his rebounding. He’s actually leading the team in TS%, last I checked.
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 19, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Still my favorite picture of Larry Hughes
http://www.mouthpiecesports.com/blogmedia/2008/11/l_hughes.jpg
Maybe Caron can start wearing one, too.
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 19, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh I love
watching McGuire play
by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Mar 19, 2009 12:08 AM EDT reply actions
Clips announcer said
I know why he’s in the league. He works really hard.
by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Mar 19, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
for sure
we’ve all seen how much his ball handling/shooting has improved since last year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
Just made a really tough shot
by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Mar 19, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I’ve noticed that he’s been trying to post up more lately. It rarely seems to work, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he learns a few moves from Jamison by next season.
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 19, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
it may rarely work
but he seems to come up with a lot of his own rebounds and make the putback.
by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Mar 19, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Can't understand why the Knicks passed on him
he’d be perfect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
93-93
going into overtime right?
by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Mar 19, 2009 12:19 AM EDT reply actions
Yay!
Tie game after three!
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yeah but
on the previous defensive possession he just got in the way . . . not in a good way. Setting picks on his teammates is something he needs to learn not to do.
by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Mar 19, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow. I just noticed that Baron Davis has 17 assists.
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 19, 2009 12:34 AM EDT reply actions
Here's something even more amazing
Antawn Jamison has 7 assists
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Just curious
…but what is mike james’ true fg% on the year? I’m trying to understand why he believes he can afford to thake the shots he does.
47.8 TS%
The league average is somewhere between 52 and 55 (complete guesstimate, btw)
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 19, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
That's what I'd thought
But if Rook is right about ours being 52, then something is off, because I’m positive we’re in the bottom five in ts%
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 19, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Some other TS% on the Wizards
Blatche 51.3%
Nick Young 51.9%
Jamison 54.7%
Butler 54.1%
D-Song 57.4%
Pech 52.3%
McGuire 48.9%
McGee 52.3%
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so what the statistics say
is that Mike James is one of the worst shooters on the team. Yet, he’s essentially tied with nick young for 3rd most FGA.
Yep
I’d call him a chucker, but that term conjurs up images of an arrogant player who takes crazy contested shots. Mike James’ shot selection isn’t really that horrible; he mostly sticks to threes and floaters in the lane. He’s just really, really bad at hitting shots he should be able to make.
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 19, 2009 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions
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