Open Thread: Regular Season Game 68 vs. Utah Jazz
Washington Wizards at Utah Jazz, Mar 17, 2009 9:00 PM EDT
The Essentials:
Wizards (16-51) at Jazz (41-26)
9:00 p.m.
Verizon Center
CSN
This year:
November 12: Wizards 95, Jazz 87
Notable Jazz numbers this season:
8th in expected winning percentage (.615)
11th in pace factor (92.5 possessions per game)
6th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (110.4)
11th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (106.8)
Key Links: (drop any others in the comments)
SLC Dunk
Jazz Notes
True Blue Jazz
Game Day Utah
The Other Side: Jazz
| Tonight's Projected Starters | ||
|---|---|---|
| Wizards | vs. | Jazz |
| Player filling in for injured starter |
PG | Deron Williams |
| Player filling in for injured starter |
SG | |
| The Last Man Standing | SF | C.J. Miles |
| Player filling in for injured starter | PF | Carlos Boozer |
| Player filling in for injured starter | C | Mehmet Okur |
Injury Report: Caron Butler is day-to-day, but in his own words "doesn't expect to play for a while." Deron Williams and Mehmet Okur are both gametime decisions tonight. UPDATE: Williams and Okur are playing tonight, but Ronnie Brewer will not be starting after showing up late for shootaround.
I hate to break it to everyone, but we're getting squashed tonight.
I have to say that I'm a bit surprised the Jazz would go to all that effort to prove something that most of us already know, but then again the Wizards did win the last time these two met, and the Jazz could be without two of their best players, so anything could happen.
On the other hand, it also has the potential to be a white flag of surrender kind of game. The Jazz are in a three-way fight for the Northwest Division with Portland and Denver. The Wizards have nothing to play for and will probably come out tired because it's the first game of Western road trip and I wouldn't be shocked if they're content after a win on Sunday and they're going to save their energy for tomorrow's epic showdown with the Clippers. When you add in that the Wizards are awful on the road and the Jazz have one of the best home court advantages in the game, and it adds up to a game that could be a rout early, even without Deron Williams or Mehmet Okur. For the sake of your own health, I'd advise you not to get involved in any drinking games with the Wizards tonight. I'm not sure anyone can handle that kind of pounding.
This is an open thread, so if you have a band named after yourself, brag about it here.
GO WIZARDS!
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I went to this game last season
… and we got demolished. My girlfriend and I were wearing Wizards jerseys, and the (notoriously hostile) fans were offering us their sympathy at halftime. No joke, it was bad.
IIRC Caron was out for that one, too.
What's the over/under on Nick Young's minutes tonight...
I say 16 minutes tops….
And we’ll see lots and lots of Mike James and Juan Dixon at the guard spots, with some Javaris Crittenton and Dominic McGuire thrown in…. just so that Tapscott can make sure to “send the right message” that you have to earn minutes to play on his team – and that defensive mistakes are not tolerated.
Then again, I expect to see Jamison for 43 – 45 minutes tonight, because veterans don’t make defensive mistakes that almost cost the game.
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Depends on if he does something stupid....
Giving him the hook when he hangs his head after missed shots should learn him.
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Starting line ups
Wizards: Mike James, Dominic McGuire, Darius Songaila, Andray Blatche, and Antawn Jamison
Jazz: Deron Williams, CJ Miles, Mehmet Okur, Carlos Boozer and Andrei Kirilenko
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Tonight should be interesting
I’m not sure if the Game Thread will be quieter than normal because people are getting drunk, or if it’ll be busier than normal because people are getting drunk.
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Sloppy start for the Jazzies.
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Timeout 47 second in?
Super sloppy.
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by Jake Whitacre on Mar 17, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Deron Wililams
Best crossover in the league IMO.
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I'm fine with Young coming off the bench...
It’s his future role.
But I’d rather start Javaris Crittenton at this point.
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Amen.
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by Jake Whitacre on Mar 17, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey guys
My site is slow going tonight. I’ll be popping in here from time to time.
by Basketball John on Mar 17, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
Cool......the Jazz perspective is more than welcome.
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Welcome
I’m assuming this won’t mean any extra mercy, but welcome to the show.
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by Jake Whitacre on Mar 17, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
No, it won't be like that
Especially since we’ve given you one of your wins this year
by Basketball John on Mar 17, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Welcome
We love other blogger’s views….
By the way – when JaVale McGee gets into the game – WATCH….!!!
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Blatche cannot be blocked by Okur like that.
Take it STRONG please.
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I don't think Okur even jumped to block that shot.
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Songaila playing well...
McGuire with a nice assist.
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Antawn Jamison needs to stop taking quick outside shots...
even if he does think he can make them.
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Huh? Jerry Sloan was ejected 2:42 into Utah's last game?
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Yeah
Two Ts in about 5 seconds. He was fried after the 3 OT game the night before. And the way the Jazz played in the Orlando game, I don’t blame him.
by Basketball John on Mar 17, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
What are you guys hoping for this offseason?
Does Gil’s contract kill you?
by Basketball John on Mar 17, 2009 9:34 PM EDT reply actions
Blake Griffin
Thar’s basically our only hope for change this off-season.
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by Jake Whitacre on Mar 17, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
To trade upcoming expiring contract of Etan Thomas and Mike James for.....
The ability to keep our draft pick.
Cap space.
Two greatest team needs IMO:
Low-post banger/defender (could be Griffin)
3-Point Sniper (we miss you Roger Mason)
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Best case scenario for the fans
Draft Blake Griffin.
Arenas, Haywood, Stevenson all come back 100% healthy.
Trade $13 Million in expiring contracts (Mike James and Etan Thomas) for solid veteran help at the Trade deadline.
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Wiz on pace for60 tonight!
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Whoa, whoa, whoa
Brevin Knight is still in the league? Sorry Javaris, if you get the ball stolen from you by Brevin Knight in 2009…you’ve got some work to do.
If you guys need a sharpshooter...
Knight’s your man
by Basketball John on Mar 17, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
We've been there before....
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So - Nick with 4:59 so far....
I still think he’ll get less than 16 minutes….
With majority of guard minutes going to James and Dixon
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I mean - we can't be sending the wrong message now, can we...
Gotta earn those minutes…. youngster.
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Problem Is....
Sometimes Nick would rather live in the Moon Bounce of Good Play rather than the Palace
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The 7 Game Philosophy Perspective
This is the first game of this particular seven-game set. In the previous seven games NY averaged 22 minutes. That’s actually midway between his “high” averages and “low,” and the set before that he averaged 18 minutes and change, so it remains to be seen whether this is a where his PT’s finally going to go up or whether he’s going to average less than 25 minutes for the rest of the year.
Mistakes are okay
Hanging your head is not.
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Just a general statement
Saw Nick do it for a sec after he and Songaila got lost on the Boozer pick that lead to the Brewer baseline jam.
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A couple of the Jazz's screen plays have been beautiful
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oh mike james
that shot was terrible
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Mar 17, 2009 10:07 PM EDT reply actions
Name a shot that Mike James takes that is NOT terrible...
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Ok - so I admit I was wrong...
Young with almost 15 minutes in the first half….
It’s obvious that he’s not in Tapscott’s “Outhouse of stinky play”
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Not tonight anyway
back on the subject of the 7-game thing, in the last batch Young would play 33 minutes, then 13, then 15, then 13, then 31, etc.
So i only saw the last 8 minutes of the 2nd Q
And unless I missed something, James and Juan (old vets) played every single one of those minutes – is Javaris hurt? What the hell is wrong with this team? Augh!
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Mar 17, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions
critt got a technical, i think
and didn’t come back. wasn’t playing great (or that poorly) – but hell, at least he showed some emotion
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by little stevie colter on Mar 17, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Javaris...
had a couple nice steals
was aggressive in trying to get to the basket
but was not taking care of the ball….must be stronger with the rock and keep it away from low-down defenders like Brevin Knight
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by Kyle Weidie on Mar 17, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Crap...D-Song goes to the bench hurt
There goes our bench All-Star.
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Didn't he only come in when Songaila got hurt?
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by Kyle Weidie on Mar 17, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
hm... maybe he did..
I just noticed he was in with like 11:40
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McGee checked in for D-Song at 11:09
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by Kyle Weidie on Mar 17, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
typical start to the 3rd quarter....
Jazz go up by their biggest lead of the game, 13
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Typical 3rd quarter by the Wiz
Now the Jazz up by 21….. Pecherov time…
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eck - the rout is on
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by little stevie colter on Mar 17, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions
Ok... Jamison should be out for the rest of the game.
…now Jamison should be out for the rest of the game.
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wait......
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by Kyle Weidie on Mar 17, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
hold.........
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by Kyle Weidie on Mar 17, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
just checked out with 0:37.1 left in 3rd
with 13 point and 9 boards…we’ll see him back in
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by Kyle Weidie on Mar 17, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Saw the exchange b/t Boozer and D-Song
Carlos was dirtyish on that play.
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PECH!
"...at some point, when u r screaming for more minutes for Pecherov, you have to ask yourselves this question: 'If you keep adding more pineapple to a 'Papa Johns Pizza with Pineapple', when does it become a Papa Johns Pineapple with Pizza???'"
by Gilbert4SpaceJam2 on Mar 17, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions
Wiz give up a 30 point 3rd Quarter
Are down by 15 after the 3rd quarter, and Buckhantz says they’re “still in striking distance”….
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Gotta start calling Pecherov - fire starter
8 points in 6 minutes….
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Abe Pollin could have stolen that pass.
"...at some point, when u r screaming for more minutes for Pecherov, you have to ask yourselves this question: 'If you keep adding more pineapple to a 'Papa Johns Pizza with Pineapple', when does it become a Papa Johns Pineapple with Pizza???'"
by Gilbert4SpaceJam2 on Mar 17, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions
hehehe
Haven’t seen the game yet, but that comment is fantastic.
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 17, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah - he's a nice player
but you said if we needed a sharpshooter….. and Knight is definitely NOT a sharpshooter..
Great defender…. good assist guy…. Can run the offense… low turn overs… but he’s never been a good shooter.
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I was being facetious
He hit two in a row. I figure we need to sell high.
by Basketball John on Mar 17, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He'd lead the league in shooting percentage if he played every game aganst the Wiz
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He got his double-double - Jamison can come out now.
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The lead is 24, but the Wizards are hanging around in striking distance, with 6 minutes left
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Good god.... Love Buckhantz
“Wizards trying to get the series sweep… it’s going to be tough now”………
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Fun
Pecherov was almost the Wizard’s leading scorer….
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Seemed like he had a pretty good statline
Do you know how he looked out there? Pech is kind of becoming a pet project for me (I keep on telling myself he’s a poor man’s Bargnani, and I think he could develop the same way).
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 17, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Pech was typical Pech
Looked pretty sharp on his shots, but didn’t pass the ball but once, resulting in a turnover (with a buck fifty eight left in the game). Still, he knocked down more threes than anyone else on the Wizards squad (which isn’t hard when Jamison is the only other guy to nail a bucket from downtown).
As far as efficiency, you’d be better off for fantasy value getting Kyle Korver last night, 15 points in 19 minutes, 3 RB, 2 AST and a steal. Plus you know he’ll clock minutes, while Pech only plays when Tapscott has no choices left.
Cool, thanks
I always hold out hope that he’ll look a bit more comfortable out there each time he play, but to no avail, I guess.
by pantslessyoda1 on Mar 18, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Minutes Watch
Jamison played just under 35 and a half minutes
NY played 29 minutes
Dixon played 27 and a half minutes
Taser played 24 minutes
McGee played a little over 22 minutes
Songaila played 22 minutes
Mike James played a little under 21 and a half minutes
Crittenton played 21 minutes
Blatche played a little under 19 and a half minutes
Pecherov played just under 18 and a half minutes

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