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Wiz owner Abe Pollin needs to fulfill the promise he made almost 10 years ago to sell the team to Ted Leonsis.

[NBCWashington.com]

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Not sure that I agree that there was an implied promise that Pollin would sell the Wizards to Ted within a 5 year timetable. I don’t remember hearing anything like that said out loud at the time. And if it wasn’t said out loud and wasn’t written down, what type of promise was it?

And how many times have the Caps made the playoffs in the last 5 years? After swinging and missing with Jagr, Leonsis ran an awfully cheap organization for several years. So I’ve never understood all of the “Teddy love”, except that he’s younger and has a more dynamic personality than Abe.

by hotplate on Mar 10, 2009 8:30 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought the same thing of Leonsis after Jagr

I thought he was “cheap” too……..

But he looked at the team, a playoff team, and said “we’re never going to win a championship” with this team. So, even though they were making the Playoffs, and bowing out in the 1st round each year (sound like another team we know?) – he decided to blow it up and start over.

Sure, he traded stars like Bondra…. but what he got back was draft picks and prospects. Yeah, for a couple of years, they stunk. But Leonsis stuck to their rebuilding plan. He wanted to bring in young, talented players that WANTED to be in Washington. For the most part, home grown players; that grew up in the Capitals system (Hershey). One year, they were really bad, and were lucky enough to draft Alex the great… and now they’re considered a club that CAN compete for a Championship…. not just for this year, but for a long time.

You should go read his 10-point rebuilding plan on Hogs Haven.

and watch “My Life 360” on Comcast Sports Net Mid Atlantic…

I think you’ll come away with a different perspective.

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Mar 10, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Very good point

About Leonsis. He had to endure the wrath of the fans during rebuilding but ultimately he made the Caps a contender. He had a long term goal and his diligence paid off. I would be happy to have him as our owner…I just wish we could win one for Mr. Pollin first!

Losing with consistency and continuity.

by WizWhiz on Mar 10, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

That 10 point plan

is incredible. Can’t wait to see us use it after next year.

rockin' the crab dribble since 2009

by hibachi on Mar 10, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wow

Right on about that 10-point plan. I was truly impressed. This should be required reading for every sports fan, especially those of struggling franchises.

Rec’d Rook and you both for linking to and promoting this. Leonsis is going to be a great owner when he takes over the Wizards, assuming that he can latch onto the right system and good scouts.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Mar 11, 2009 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not yet

Mr. Pollin is an absolutely phenomenal man. He’s an incredibly smart business man so I’m sure he has a plan in place for the team. I sure hope we can make some noise next season for him…he sure deserves it. Please read this Mike Wise column about Mr. Pollin…its a great tribute!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/09/AR2009030903096.html

Losing with consistency and continuity.

by WizWhiz on Mar 10, 2009 9:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Here's a knee, jerk

Would this have been written if Gilbert, Haywood, etc. weren’t injured and the Wizards were in the playoffs? If Ovie was out with a knee injury? When you make a billion dollars and can buy your own team, then you can determine when to sell it. Until then, maybe you should make better use of your free time than to go around telling old people how they should be living their lives, and how they should turn over the things they’ve spent their lives building because you — the all important, armchair genius that you are — think so.

by disgrunted on Mar 10, 2009 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Quit Beating Around the Bush

Tell us how you really feel.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Mar 10, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously

Given that I’m not going to make a billion dollars, all I can offer is my opinion (which is worth the digital paper it’s printed on).

That said, meh. I think the solution to this team’s ills lies in voodoo rituals, not in a change of ownership.

by sierradave on Mar 10, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty dumb article

From top to bottom:

• In what way does Polin not “value the team”? He’s got a pretty high payroll for someone who only cares about “buildings and property”. Not fan friendly? I’ve always thought the Bullets/Wizards were one of the MOST fan friendly teams in the league with their frequent and innovative promotions and fan nights.

• I don’t see how the NBA has passed Abe by at all. His “acumen” is quite sharp and I think he’s doing pretty well by the Wizards.

• I’ve never felt like the Caps were a “neglected step-child” to anyone, certainly not Pollin. In fact in the 70’s-80’s I was always surprised that the Caps were treated so on par with the larger sport Bullets.

• Not sure what to make of this:

The assumption…was that ol’ Abey would stay in the game for 2-3 more years tops before transferring power.

Whose assumption? The author’s? Abe’s? Ted’s? In the next paragraph this made up “assumption” becomes a “promise”.

• This “historically inept hockey franchise” was in the Stanley Cup finals only a year before the sale.

I think it’s absurd and a little sad that in a down year for the Wiz and an up year for the Caps that the author advises an ailing Abe to fade away, essentially pitting one franchise against the other. Next year the Wiz could be in the finals and the Caps could miss the playoffs. Would that mean that Ted was out of touch and Abe was a genius?

The guy built all of this by himself from almost nothing. Unlike nearly every other pro sport franchise, Pollin hasn’t relied on municipal money to run his business. Take a look at New York City’s baseball stadiums if you want to see what it looks like for a municipality and community to be ripped off and trampled.

I hope Abe is around a long long time and he keeps his Wizards and watches them win a championship. He’s earned it.

by MR on Mar 10, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

The Author

You do realize that Truth was the author, right?

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Mar 10, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do

I caught that after I wrote my diatribe but before I hit “POST”.

I decided to leave the slightly annoyed tone after realizing that because a) I was slightly annoyed b) Truth knows I have nothing against him personally c) I’m lazy.

by MR on Mar 10, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

No worries....everyone has their opinion

Fan promotions….sure they were “friendly” when Susan O’Malley, hired via nepotism, was parading her Howdy-Doody act around, selling who was coming in town and not the team in town.

The are countless stories about how the Caps franchise felt treated lesser than Abe’s baby, the Bullets/Wizards.

The Caps Stanley Cup appearance was almost an anomaly….and they certainly couldn’t build on that.

And hell, even players used to bash the conditions surrounding the Wizards locker room, etc.

Look, I don’t want to spend the time bashing the guy…that’s not my point…..

However, there is another side to the “OMG Abe is sooooo great!” story that everyone is in love with these days.

Here are a couple good reads on the past:

http://www.ericmcerlain.com/offwingopinion/archives/002237.php#002237

http://www.ericmcerlain.com/offwingopinion/archives/002241.php

Representing DC with Wizards & Stuff - Truth About It.net and Bullets Forever.

by Kyle Weidie on Mar 10, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the reply

The problem I have is not so much the point of the article, which I obviously disagree with strongly, but the tone and timing.

I know you (Truth) write great stuff, but this one seems like a long list of cherry picking and outdated complaints. For example when you are discussing a franchise transaction in the late ’90’s and use the words “historically inept” you are not only being inaccurate, but you are hurting your own argument. Sure it was an anomaly, but then make the argument around that anomaly, don’t just pretend it doesn’t exist. I think you can make a good argument without over-reaching. The other stuff I listed above I believe also to be over-reaches that hurt your central argument.

On the timing front I think you’ve made a poor decision. You may be tired of the “Abe is so great” parade, but it’s because he IS so great and he’s been hit with a rare debilitating disease so the community he has done so much for is rallying around him. It seems like bad taste after seeing a guy whose head has to be propped up in his wheelchair saying he’s going to continue to try to win for you to try to push him off into the sunset. It’s actually kind of shockingly in bad taste.

And the Pollin bashing posts you reference above are outdated. Abe HAS handed the keys to one of the best basketball men in the league. So that entire point is moot.

Anyway, you are certainly entitled to your opinion and I’m glad to have a variety of opinions out there, but I think your timing and presentation have left you seeming less classy than I know you are and your opinion less well argued than I think you would like.

by MR on Mar 10, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

All About Abe

Truth, stop evaluating Abe on the entire body of his ownership and only focus on his charitable donations and the recent winning seasons. The 80s and 90s and Jordan era never transpired.

Also, never mention the tremendous tax breaks that Abe still gets on the Verizon Center property or the tax subsidies that DC tax payers hooked Abe up with to pay for the new scoreboard and luxury boxes.

He is a nice old, billionaire and he should never be criticized. His illness should shield him from questioning his decisions too. He pays his players a going rate just like most owners so he should be commended for being an average owner. We would never want to go over the luxury tax because this is ALWAYS a dumb decision and thank god Abe is wise enough to ALWAYS stay under the cap.

I never saw this movie but it sounds awesome. :)

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2007/12/27/jews-rednecks-jimmy-carter-michael-jordan-abe-pollin/

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2007/12/27/jews-rednecks-jimmy-carter-michael-jordan-abe-pollin/

Robert Pollin responds.
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/display.php?id=34413

Editor’s Note: Contrary to the implication in the above letter, the District is financing 100 percent of the cost of the upgrades to Verizon Center through a hike in taxes at the arena. Abe Pollin pays none of the cost.

What? They don't have TV in the D-League? Don't watch me, watch TV.

by Mac G on Mar 10, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here is the column

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/display.php?id=34352

What? They don't have TV in the D-League? Don't watch me, watch TV.

by Mac G on Mar 10, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shrug

If Abe were a meddling owner like Dan Snyder and/or wouldn’t spend the money necessary to build a championship-caliber team, then I might be led to agree with you. But he leaves the big decisions to a pretty competent general manager and appears to have given that GM the flexibility to go over the salary cap when necessary. I have no major problem with Abe and wouldn’t mind seeing him continue to own the Wizards.

That said, I do have a few minor problems with Abe. His loyalty to players can sometimes hurt the team’s future, such as when he asked Ernie to resign Etan Thomas to that toxic contract with the trade kicker. And until recently, he has appeared unwilling to spend enough money to make this team competitive, although I admit that this might be more perception than truth.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Mar 10, 2009 12:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree with your first “minor problem”. I’ve always considered that Abe’s real flaw, but that’s a pretty good flaw to have if you’re going to have one. Imagine having Cuban, Dolan, Sterling, as the owner of your team. I’ll take “too loyal”.

Not sure I agree with “minor problem” number two. I haven’t looked at Bullets/Wizards salary numbers, but my impression is that they’ve always been up there. Abe hasn’t seemed to be afraid to spend or make a move. The one thing that comes to mind was the Howard situation, when they let him walk at first rather than paying a high price. That was the right move. The subsiquent spending was a mistake. They let Jeffries and Hughes walk rather than break the bank. Both good moves. Ditto Mcilvaine. But he’s ponied up the dough when needed.

by MR on Mar 10, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

we got to win one for Abe or get really close

we are going to blow this team up with Ted im sure
i dont want to go back to winning 20 games a year again :( for the next 5 to 7 years

by eltacoman on Mar 10, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

It won't take that long

2-3 years of bad records …. will net several very high draft picks…. some judicious trades to send out veteran All-Stars for young talent and more draft picks. Invest in scouting, development, and a system that is consistent throughout the Organization (from the D-League affiliate, to the big club). Hire a coach that believes in the rebuilding effort – that can be patient with young players. Put those young players right into the fire. Let em play. Believe in them. Stick to the plan.

In 3-4 years, the Wizards will be right back. Contending for a Championship.

By the way…. I didn’t make that stuff up… That’s directly from Ted Leonsis’ 10-point rebuilding plan.

Look at Portland – what they’ve done. Watch Oklahoma City in 2 years…. Both those teams are building around a young nucleus – built through the draft. They’re letting the young guys play… even when they’re making mistakes…….. even when they’re losing games. But when they get good, they’ll STAY GOOD for a long, long time.

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Mar 10, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let me reiterate what I said about this on the NBC site...

This column was ungrateful and mean-spirited. Mr Pollin has earned the right ten times over to see HIS team have one more shot at glory in HIS lifetime.

God willing, Gilbert and the big three will rise again next year, God willing, Brendan and DeShawn wll head a pontent supporting cast that will include either the #1 overall pick, Blake Grifin or a competent rotation player and a mid first-round gem like Stephen Curry or Ty Lawson gotten in exchange from some team desperate enough to want Thabeet to trade up with us for the #2-6 pick plus, say Nick Young and Etan’s expiring contract. And God willing the 2009-10 Wizards will reward Mr Pollin and the rest of us with a very exciting season and deep playoff run.

Ted Leonsis will get his crack at owning the WIzards soon enough, and I will be amongthe first to wish him well… but as a long-time season ticket holder who is getting long in the tooth himself, the lack of respect and gratitude to Mr Pollin simply appals me.

by khrabb on Mar 10, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't see how Truth's article was mean-spirited

He started it by saying what a great guy Abe is. He didn’t make any personal attacks about his age or anything. He just said, for the good of the team, it’s time for Ted to take over. This has nothing to do with Abe not deserving a title.

It’s fair to disagree (and I’m not sure how I feel myself), but explain to me why this is mean-spirited?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Mar 11, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with Truth

give it to Leonsis already.

rockin' the crab dribble since 2009

by hibachi on Mar 10, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I disagree

Truth brings up a sentiment that is shared by many Wizards fans – but I tend to side with those who think Abe deserves at least another shot at a Championship.

Abe has been an incredibly generous Owner…. a vast difference between some other owners in the Association that held their Cities hostage for new Arenas (see: Howard Schultz , Maloof Brothers, etc…).

Instead of shopping the team around to Cities with the highest bid, Abe built his own Arena…. TWICE.

I think earlier in his Ownership, the Bullets could be fairly called “cheap”… but since the 1990’s, Abe has shown he’s willing to invest in transportation, revamped locker rooms, top flight training facilities, Coaches, and everything else to attract and retain the best players. And as for Players, Abe has shown he’s willing to invest in large long-term contracts if he thinks it will help the Wizards win.

So – I’m all for giving Abe the next couple of years to see if he can win a Championship before his time here is done. Let’s face it, he doesn’t have all that much time left – so it would be nice if he could go out with that trophy.

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Mar 11, 2009 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

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