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Don't Worry About Tanking

Despite a generally win-hungry fan-base, I am starting to hear the rumblings that we should start losing and focus on the lottery.  I understand that point of view, but would like to point out that given where we stand it doesn't matter (much).

First, the math.  As we sit with 11 wins it's obvious that we could end the season with the worst record in the league.  It's important to note, though, that the best we could realistically do is 5th worst.  Minnesota is currently 6th worst with 17 wins, and our chance of catching them or any of the teams above them is minute.  (I'd even say we have a slim chance of catching Memphis' 15 wins, but the Grizz can find a way...)

So we have a range of outcomes we could achieve.  I'd generously say they are all equally likely outcomes if we don't deliberately lose games, though that's probably under-rating our fellow bottom-feeders (SAC, LAC, OKC, and in particular MEM - I think we'll need at least 20 wins to be 26th in the league).  If so, you get the following odds (numbers rounded):

 

Finish 1st 2nd-4th Worst

30th 25% 75% 4th

29th 20% 68% 5th

28th 16% 54% 6th

27th 12% 38% 7th

26th 9% 20% 8th

 

I've chosen these stats for a reason, related to this year's flat draft class.  We all #1 is the prize, and I'm assessing that 2-4 will be roughly equal and clearly ahead of 5-8 (which depends on Ricky Rubio's decision).  Draft watchers can feel free to argue.

What it shows (at least to me), is a few interesting facts:

- Being worst is a clear but not overwhelming advantage, and it comes not from the the higher likelihood of getting Griffin, but from the certainty of picking no worse than 4th.

- Comparing 4th worst to 2nd worst, there's slightly greater than a 60% chance that it makes no difference at all.

- A point that should be obvious to everyone, but is especially important with this draft class:  No matter how bad we are, the chance of getting a difference maker this year in the draft is relatively small.

So what's the point?  While given this team's situation it's still reasonable to hope for the worst record in the league, we shouldn't be worrying too much about the meager wins we might get.  Given the odds that Sacramento and Clippers are already tanking, we're going to have a tough time being last, and so I'd as soon cheer for the Wiz to win and enjoy it when they actually do.

This represents the view of the user who wrote the FanPost, and not the entire Bullets Forever community. We're a place of many opinions, not just one.

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thing is

tanking means playing your young guys over your veterans, and thats what a lot of people think we should do regardless

by joshp on Feb 13, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

NO

Tanking is deliberately playing inferior players, so that the outcome results in a loss.

The Wizards aren’t deliberately playing inferior players – - – oh, wait………

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by Rook6980 on Feb 13, 2009 10:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Did any of you see Stephen A. Smith trash the wiz yesterday?

He said with two all-stars we should have more than 11 wins regardless of who we put around them and that both guys are overrated.

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by hibachi on Feb 14, 2009 11:17 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

It's a fair point

The Wizards should have more than 11 wins. But whatever. No team has been hit harder injury-wise than the Wiz. And that’s not an excuse to play uninspired basketball, but it is a fact.

Anyway, tanking is helpful sometimes, but it can also be pointless. The team with the worst record isn’t assured of having the first pick, obviously. Just look at how lucky the Bulls were to get Rose.

Just keep playing the same way. Just play hard and play to win. But again, the Wiz are 11-42 for a reason.

by Matt K. on Feb 14, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares what Stephen A. says.....

….even if he does have a point.

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by Truth About It on Feb 14, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well

he does say it quite loudly. its hard to ignore him. i wasnt even watching espn and i heard him!

by joshp on Feb 14, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

dude

You saw Stephen A. Smith trash the wiz? That means he was on TV and you paid attention. Admitting to that is like admitting to seeing “Confessions of a Shopaholic.” Sure, you might get stuck doing it because you forgot your girlfriend’s birthday and this was the punishment, but you still shouldn’t go around admitting it!

by sierradave on Feb 16, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

quite frankly

stephen a smith loves cheese doodles

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by hibachi on Feb 16, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We’re neck and neck with the Kings for worst, Thunder are rising, Clippers are the Clippers so that’s automatic. Memphis seems out of reach. I’d say we’ll end with the 2nd worse ahead of the Kings.

by Fundefined on Feb 15, 2009 6:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Most likely

Especially now that the Thunder have Chandler. They’re basically a shooting guard, a few bench players, and a year or two of development from being a playoff-caliber team.

by pantslessyoda1 on Feb 17, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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