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According to an insider with legit knowledge of the situation, regardless of whatever mixed messages Arenas is sending about whether or not he's coming back, and despite the "no official time table" line that's given whenever a question is asked about Arenas and Haywood's returns, the Wizards expect to get both players back for roughly the final 15 games of the season. The plan is to limit both players to roughly 15 minutes a night and hold them out of any back-to-backs. The Wizards believe that such a final stretch run with the whole gang back together again will go a long way to getting the players back into a flow of playing with each other and also lay a foundation for next season.
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If This is True
Then that puts both players back on the court in early to mid-March. What happened to December, Gilbert? What happened to January? If you are not healthy by now, will you ever be?
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
by cuppettcj on Feb 11, 2009 8:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
If this is true, pt. 2.
Since we’ve been hearing stories about Gil going 1-on-1 with Nick Young for awhile now, and based on some of his previous comments, I bet that if the Wizards were doing decently in January, we’d get him back. But since we’re 11-41 there’s no reason for him to push himself at all.
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by mamemimo on Feb 11, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What Bothers Me
Is that at this point, Gilbert shouldn’t have to “push himself”. It has been nearly 15 months since he had microfracture surgery on his knee, and 5 months since he had a minor procedure to wash out its debris. He should be fully healthy by now. The fact that he is not is what bother me. If he isn’t 100% healthy by now, should we expect him ever to be? Or is his knee like DeShawn’s back, something we should expect to be a problem for him the rest of his career? I’m starting to really wish that we hadn’t resigned Gil. :(
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
by cuppettcj on Feb 11, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember
the “microfracture surgery” was on a non weight bearing bone… Not as serious…. and actually, probably only done because he had the torn meniscus and they could do the microfracture at the same time.
The microfracture part of the procedure was to fix a articular surface defect… ie: a rough spot on a bone.
Torn meniscus is NOT a major problem with a knee…. but then he came back too soon, tried to do too much, and had a Coach that played him 40 minutes per game and tore the meniscus again.
The third surgery was to clean out debris (floating particles) from the knee. An arthroscopic lavage procedure uses a saline solution to wash out debris from the knee. It is a partially non-invasive procedure where a saline solution is flushed through the knee and any particles are flushed out. I’ve had this procedure done twice; and you can walk out of the Hospital the same day. My knee was sore for a couple of days where the arthroscope was inserted, but I was able to resume normal activities immediately. Professional Sports related activities are obviously different.
The point I am trying to make here are that none of the reported surgeries on Gilbert’s knee were related to ligaments, weight-bearing bone, etc… All were relatively minor procedures as compared to say, compete knee reconstruction (like Shaun Livingston).
There’s no reason to believe that Arenas can’t come back 100%
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by Rook6980 on Feb 11, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So Why Hasn't He?
The point I am trying to make here are that none of the reported surgeries on Gilbert’s knee were related to ligaments, weight-bearing bone, etc… All were relatively minor procedures as compared to say, compete knee reconstruction (like Shaun Livingston).
There’s no reason to believe that Arenas can’t come back 100%
It seems like you are arguing with yourself. If all of the “procedures” done on Gilbert’s knee since the major surgery performed almost 23 months ago are so minor, then why can’t Gilbert step on the court tonight fully healthy? The reason I have to believe that Arenas can’t come back at 100% is that he still hasn’t. It has been 5 full months since the minor debris flush, and this was after a full offseason of recovery, a recovery that Gilbert promised he would take slowly and carefully. And yet here we are, in mid-February, and Gilbert still isn’t 100% with no timetable for his return. If Gilbert hasn’t gotten healthy by now, what reason do you have to believe he ever will? This is Grant Hill all over again.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
by cuppettcj on Feb 11, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am just excited to hear management expect's them back
No coach is going to want to come here if they do not know the health of Gilbert. And I agree, if we can end the season on positive vibes that would go a long way to getting the wiz back on track. Assuming Gil and Haywood are healthy and play well.
by Blatche4MVP on Feb 11, 2009 8:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you
The fans need to see these guys on the court this year, otherwise season ticket holders will depart in droves.
Their teammates need to see these guys on the court this year, otherwise our best young players will think that they are on a treadmill to nowhere with the Wizards. and will start playing purely for stats and a possible ticket to a contender.
And the rest of the league needs to see them as well, not going full tilt but simply demonstrating that they will in all likelihood be ready to roll at full capacity in 2009-10 . The Wizards cannot afford to go into the off-season with a “black box” regarding Gil and Brendan, otherwise every other GM in the league will be free to hold Ernie Grunfeld hostage to a set of worst-case scenarios, which we cannot afford when and if we decide to peddle our high draft choice along with one of our toxic expiring contracts for value in return .
The best outcome for 2008-09 is for the Wizards to leave the impression on all concerned that regardless of their record, they are only one or two pieces shy of being a serious contender, and that between their two good draft choices this June and the value of their expiring contracts next year, these remaining pieces are within reach.
Consider how the Heat have come back this season, and then consider how much better the supporting players we have around Gil are….
by khrabb on Feb 11, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
15, 15
Is this their version of LOST or something? Is Jamison gonna scream, “Don’t tell me what I can’t do!” during the next game? Will Pollin reveal himself to be an Other?
by Pryme on Feb 11, 2009 2:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i like it
well, better than not returning at least.
i have lowered my expectations.
by joshp on Feb 11, 2009 4:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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