Open Thread: Washington Wizards vs. Detroit Pistons, Regular Season Game 19
by Mike Prada on Dec 6, 2009 4:15 PM EST
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PrintWashington Wizards at Detroit Pistons, Dec 6, 2009 6:00 PM EST
The Essentials:
Wizards (7-11) vs. Pistons (7-12)
6 p.m.
Palace of Auburn Hills
TV: CSN, NBATV
Radio: 106.7 The Fan
Notable Pistons numbers this season
18th in expected winning percentage (.422)
29th in pace (87.6 possessions per game)
22nd in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (105.3)
20th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (107.7)
Pre-game links
Motown String Music, SB Nation's Detroit Pistons blog
Piston Powered, Detroit Pistons blog
Detroit Bad Boys
Need4Sheed
Full Court Press with Patrick Hayes
Pistons Insider
Pistons Insider game preview
Michael Lee: The other side: Pistons
GameDay Detroit
| Tonight's Projected Starters | ||
|---|---|---|
| Wizards | vs. | Pistons |
| Gilbert Arenas |
PG | Rodney Stuckey |
| Nick Young |
SG | Chucky Atkins |
| Caron Butler |
SF | Jonas Jerekbo |
| Antawn Jamison |
PF | Jason Maxiell |
| Brendan Haywood |
C | Ben Wallace |
Sidenote: I have a dinner event I need to be at, and while the game might be playing there, it's also possible that I'll miss this one. Just a heads-up.
I showed that clip of the Pistons introductions to show just how far this franchise has fallen. Maybe not in the win-loss record -- Detroit has a solid point differential -- but the stands are empty and the team is really uninteresting. They're now bringing both their marquee free agents -- Ben Gordon and Charlie Villaneuva -- off the bench for Chucky Atkins (yes, that Chucky Atkins) and Jason Maxiell. Gordon is playing hurt, but that's pretty unbelievable. They're still missing Rip Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince, both of who do not look nearly as attractive as players right now.
Detroit is coming off a nice home win over Milwaukee, where they slowed Brandon Jennings. They, of course, still pose problems with their backcourt speed, and their game is to beat you off the dribble. Last time these two teams played, the Wizards went to a zone because they couldn't guard the Pistons' guards. Maybe having Nick Young in instead of Mike Miller helps there.
I imagine we'll see the Pistons go really small, and when that happens, Caron Butler needs post touches. Desperately.
GO WIZARDS!
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Although that front line of Jerekbo, Jason Maxiell and Ben Wallace won’t scare anyone Offensively, they attack the boards – and create a lot of extra Offensive possessions.
BUT – Washington should be able to exploit mismatches down low with Haywood against Wallace, and Jamison against the 6’7" Maxiell.
I agree with Mike. If Detroit tries to ‘go small’ – the Wizards should immediately start posting up. I suggest even more than that – go to a really big line up with Haywood, Blatche at PF and Jamison at SF… with either Butler or Young at SG…. and then post up, post up, post up… and crash the boards.
Looking at Detroit, you wonder where they get their scoring; but Gordon is scoring 20 a game, Will Bynum gives them about 14, and Stuckey’s averaging about 18… so they are a very Guard heavy Offensive team…..
Gil should attack Stuckey – try to get him in foul trouble… and Young should use his height advantage over Atkins and Gordon – but the Wizards would be wise to pound the ball inside to Haywood – but especially to Butler and Jamison…
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lets take Rook;s post
and as a team do the exact opposite of what he recommended….
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on the real
f this new system w/gil.
gil needs to go back to the dead eye scorer he was, in the game against the raps, u noticed he only had like 2 or 3 assists? and that system works for us.
screw tryna be like cp3 or deron or billups, pass 1st pg is not gil.
go back to scoring i say!!!
RANT!!!
why do i pay for unlimited league pass broadband when shit games like wiz-pistons are blacked out? that is not unlimited, is it? YOU CAN’T BREAK ME, CABLE TV TYRANTS!!!!!
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 6:17 PM EST reply actions
that does it
much obliged.
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
nice - al-jazeera sportsnet
who knew?
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
just the commercials - they are all in arabic
and it says ‘al-jazeera sportsnet’ at the end of the ad cycle.
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
That turnover sent Nick Young to the bench ... and the fouling.
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the second game in a row
where he has decided to go 1 on five. However, unlike Toronto, Detroit is too quick
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What's up with Flip's Polka-Dot Tie?
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Seems like Chucky Atkins has picked up a considerable amount of tats since he was with the Wiz.
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Now I'm annoyed
Besides Brendan, does anyone give a damn on this team. God, this is the 2nd game with no energy. Do we need to to tell them that the game is starting half an hour than it really is?!
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come on caron -
everyone could see that coming
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 6:36 PM EST reply actions
and there is Caron's charge
I’m going to take a break. I’m being too negative and this is going to drive me nuts.
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your negativity appears 100% justified though
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
maybe a beer and a smoke and come back midway through the second
the continue to play lazy and that is unacceptable from a below .500 team
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I don't think that will help the team
… oh you meant for yourself.
it helped Artest!
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by Sean Fagan on Dec 6, 2009 6:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The luckiest jumper of Dom McGuire's career.
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Flip is doing a terrible job subbing.
-Gilbert is being pulled out way to early in the first quarter
-Stevenson over foye? really? How does flip expect foye to get into any rythm when hes giving minutes to a joke of a player
-Mcguire should not have come in this early. There’s no way caron was that gassed, he hasn’t done anything.
Agree about Stevenson
The offense has been a big problem and Stevenson only makes it worse.
well gil got 2 fouls
and i suspect the rest is a message about playing hard
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
this game is not going to end well
just has that feeling.
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 6:46 PM EST reply actions
just really don't like the way they are playing
not smart, allowing penetration
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
I'm suprised this detroit lead isn't larger
I don’t know how flip expects to get any production out of this lineup. Especially against detroits caliber of defense.
He's getting to the line.... at least.
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Abe Lincoln is rolling over in his grave.
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DeShawn should get a John Wilkes Booth tat on the back of his neck.
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I can't wait till all-star week.
This team needs a good long break to get mentally focused. These stretches of turnovers that we keep having are killing us.
Seriously? That's a long fucking time away.
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um I am actually going to agree with Hollinger for once
if they keep playing with this effort they need to be blown up in some way.
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I mean, that's nothing new that Hollinger is discovering
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I would usually disregard
Hollinger as he tends to underrate the Wizards. But these guys do not seem to like playing together
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i miss mike miller
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 6:57 PM EST reply actions
so antawn can shoot and miss more 3s?
he has been pissing me off with his shot selection last few games. if you’re open for a 3, you also have room to drive. at least try it a few times.
this game is really making me angry.
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
there has been zero penetration
its more shot jacking on top of shot jacking. you think they would have learned from Friday, but the lesson NEVER seems to sink in.
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Is this wrong?
I actually like the Redskins more than this team these days. At least the Skins look like they are playing hard.
Thanks Caron
thanks sloppy offense!
thanks lazy uninspired defense!
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curious
If they did blow it up, would Leonsis give the green light to make a move to stay competitive, or would he go for a straight rebuild?
(These are the thoughts I have when they play so lethargically)
Knowing Leonsis
I would think that he would try to grab assets and rebuild like OKC or the Caps.
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true, but who knows
if a fresh attitude is what is needed. SAC and MIL have been playing over their heads with new midrange draft picks and getting rid of some under performing dead wood.
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Sorry I’m late everyone…. just got back from work…
How we doing? Looks like typical Wizards when they lose:
Not sharing the ball
Lots of turn overs
????
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is Flip was mad on Friday
this is going to make him go absolutely ballistic.
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bail out now!
don’t invest any time or emotion into this one. they should be down by 20
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
everything that horrible about the team
has come out like Frankenstein’s monster
except Foye.
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and your boy
went 1 on 4 twice, dribbled it off his foot, picked up a foul, and has been banished.
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flip needs to lose his shit at half-time
just berate them. i don’t care if it sinks in or not. they have earned it.
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 7:08 PM EST reply actions
he simply has to come out of this funk at some point
too talented not to. would be good to start now
Just to play some D
and to get the guys with 2 fouls off the floor for the final play.
Down 5, 100% FT shooting
Could be worse. If I didn’t actually watch the game. But being this close and playing this awful is promising.
promising? perhaps.
i would say it’s more baffling. this game has the feel of a blowout, and i can’t explain why they are not down more.
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
i'm right there with you
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
without two of their best players
we should be killing this team.
its nice that the Wizards always play down to the competition.
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YEEEEAH EARL!!!
7-0 to finish the first half. Thank god we’re this close. If we can actually play ball in the second half we should win this game
so going in the 2nd half
the players who have earned time are
Foye
Haywood
Boykins
while Stevenson, Blatche and Young look like they are asleep
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foye's half was interesting -
he scored, shot well, but it all seemed to be 1-on-1. nothing within the flow of the offense. but that is today’s NBA, teams can win that way i guess.
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
I thought his defense was nice
his hands were active and he seemed to be at least making and effort on D.
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good - it would be great if he could be solid defender
i’ll keep an eye on that in the 2nd half. he should be able to counter the physicality of detroits guards, just based on his size.
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
Stevenson doesn't look like he's asleep
He looks like Stevenson…
i hate to say it
but i think arenas and jamison being way-below average defenders is a real problem. i have no answers on how to remedy this.
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 7:19 PM EST reply actions
long been a problem
a jamison team with him playing a ton of minutes will always be below average defensively. Take the good with the bad. unfortunately we can’t surround him with elite defenders at the other spot to mask it.
he's been playing very poorly
for the last few games – imo.
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
I could deal with his sieve like defense
if he would take it to the hoop once in a while. Its not like Detroit has Bosh or Bogut inside.
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yeah not breaking any news -
but still, it has stood out for me more this year. especially arenas. opposing guards just eat him up. boykins is a much better defender.
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
but the problem
is that Flip’s offense isn’t designed to go nuts of offense. It is to play controlled and limit turnovers and be effecient.
We should be seeing a ton of 94-88 games, but instead no one seems to know what to do….
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true
but what can he do different? the problems are obviously with the Big 3…
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I didn't think anything
could drive me more crazy than the Green Turtle ads….
but those Hooters holiday ads….god
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is it now obligatory
to mention how Kwame is doing whenever we are playing him?
it feels like a bad breakup where you have to tell your friend how their ex is doing…
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Kwame wasn't a bad breakup?
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by Jake Whitacre on Dec 6, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
oh it was
its like.
oh by, the way, I know you might be wondering, Kwawe has 4 points and 3 rebounds
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My apologies for the lack of commenting on my end
I’m multi-tasking between the game and wrapping up final projects for the semester.
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by Jake Whitacre on Dec 6, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
I'm back
What’s happening in this one? Haven’t been able to see any of it.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
the comments should give you a good idea
of the prevailing mood…..
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Just scrolled through them all
Yikes.
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I’ve only been able to see the 3rd quarter… but Wizard’s offense looks stagnant again…
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and – at least in the 3rd quarter, there have been some questionable calls…
no interference on Vilanueva when the ball was clearly in the cylinder
Kwame Brown flopped, Blatche called for offensive foul…
Several slapped wrists, leading to Wizards losing the ball – no fouls called.
But to be fair, sloppy officiating on both sides…
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Example – how does Kwame not get a foul called there when he bumped Blatche on that shot?
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you cannot
blame this game on the refs.
we have been sloppy with ball, the passes have no zip, and have given almost zero effort on D.
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without naming names
lots of shot jacking. little effort with a few notable exceptions such as Haywood
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Terribad defensive rotations
Yikes
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Phil pointed out in the 2nd
that Detroit avgs 5 points in the paint.
but they are slicing us up.
If Flip doesnt kill this team postgame I would be shocked.
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Wizards chucking up the first semi-open shot they see…
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Play Gil, Foye, CB, McGuire and Haywood
Put McGuire on Villanueva.
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I think CB is sitting
because he was also jacking up dozens of terrible shots.
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Kwame is slipping that screen every time
Why don’t we realize this?
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Hey look at that ball movement and effort
and the look at us shoot the contested jumper
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Earl has played the most fourth-quarter MPG in the league?
What?
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speaking of which
TIm Donaghey is being interviewed over on 60 minutes tonight.
f.u. charlie v -
why don’t you tweet about how you scored over a 5-5 dude
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 8:11 PM EST reply actions
This team needs to run more
That’s never been Flip’s MO, but with our problems getting good shots in the halfcourt, we have to push the ball.
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They're executing it, I guess
The problem is we’re executing the play no matter what, whereas a really good offense understands how to improvise when a play doesn’t result in a good shot.
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Boykins cannot throw entry pases
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Nice job, Caron
Drove on the big guy.
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Still in the game
As poorly as they’ve played – they’re now only down by ONE
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Weird play there
Why does Detroit think a guard-guard screen will get them a bucket?
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Because their guard is 6 inches taller than Boykins
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Well, both are
So it doesn’t really matter
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So – it’s really LIKE a big man setting a screen on a guard anyway
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Well, no it isn't
Because no matter what, it’s a mismatch, so why set a screen to create one?
I think they were trying to set up Stuckey in the post. Not sure why that’s a go-to play for them.
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Oh. My. God.
Gilbert, get the ball!
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Can Randy Foye come in?
He’s played well, right? Can’t we give Gilbert the ball and spread the floor for once?
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Got beat there
Come on, please Flip.
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this is just a bad team
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions
detroit did not play well at all
and they are going to win
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
What do you mean??!!
When this team was healthy a few years ago, they were in first place in the East for a couple of days.
I want to vomit.
Getting dominated by WILL BYNUM twice this year was not what I envisioned how our season would be.
i was totally expecting austin daye to dominate us though
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
well if we can't pull this out
we can put this on the backs of the big 3
but Flip’s motivating and subbing were also terrible.
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I posted this on Twitter
But I’m tired of fourth-quarter Earl. He monopolizes the ball, makes Gil into a passive player and doesn’t space the floor because he isn’t a good stand-still shooter.
We’re winning and losing this season with Gilbert. We got to get him in that position to be the closer again. Putting Earl in takes the ball out of his hands.
It worked for a couple games, but it’s not a winning formula long-term.
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I think its more than that
everyone looks passive. I think Flip only plays Boykins b/c besides Haywood he is the on one that plays with any energy.
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Well, yeah, it's not the magic solution
But you have to win games with your stars. Otherwise, you aren’t building to anything.
I think Foye should have been rewarded with more PT. Hopefully, when Miller comes back, he’ll take Earl’s minutes.
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I agree on this one
Flip seems to love Earl, but I can’t believe that Earl is actually running Flip’s offense. Dribbling for 15 seconds and then kicking the ball out to the 3 point line. Folks would be killing Gil if he were doing that.
Right, exactly
Flip plays him because he knows what he gets from Earl. That’s more of an indictment on the rest of the team than anything.
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but he isn't rewarding good play
he yanks Nick for playing out of control but doesn’t give Foye extended PT for playing well?
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Is anyone running his offense?
I don’t see it. There may be Hawk cuts going on, but all that actually happens is that we set high picks, swing the ball around the three point line and then take a semi open/semi-contested 20 footer.
That’s not an offense, but of course I think if our best players didn’t look skillless and slow that it might actually work
by Manimal Smith on Dec 6, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fair
We just can’t win in this system when Gilbert is terrible and Caron is jab stepping 300 times instead of playing in rhythm.
by Manimal Smith on Dec 6, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
Boykins is the only one that wants in the fourth
Everybody else is so passive. He is monopolizing the ball because no one else is calling for it. W/o Boykins the season is all ready over.
But that's the problem
Boykins plays like that because he’s played like that for 11 years. This is what he does. When you’re trying to get your stars to be more aggressive, where they’re playing rather than thinking, playing a guy like Boykins, who has never been one to give up the ball, doesn’t help.
I’m not opposed to playing Gil at the 2, but you need a PG who actually plays unselfishly.
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Gilbert with only 9 shots?
That’s just terrible. Utterly terrible.
I’d never thought I’d say this but I’d rather have eddie jordans offense now paired with the renewed defense that we’ve been playing this year.
I keep hearing about Foye from Phil and Buck
so why was he riding pine for almost the entire 2nd half?
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that is a great question
he was playing well
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
You are right
It doesn’t look like they care – it looks especially like Caron and Gilbert only care to the extent that they know that they are making themselves look bad personally.
by Manimal Smith on Dec 6, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
Depressed
I don’t know that our so-called stars could look any more pedestrian against a fairly crummy team without its best scorer.
If we aren’t 500 by the all star break, then Ernie should just blow it up.
it doesn't help
that the hypnotist obviously brainwashed the Big 3 into forgetting how to drive…
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Caron is the problem
Antawn fights hard and has been good since coming back. We know that Gilbert is going to take time so its hard to judge him, but Caron has no real excuse for playing horribly. He isn’t injured (that we know), but he is playing with zero confidence at the moment.
by Manimal Smith on Dec 6, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
well its worn off on AJ
because he has shot about a zillion contest jumpers tonight.
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and against toronto last game too
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
7-12?
really? close to rock bottom here, i think.
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 8:37 PM EST reply actions
eh -
even the 7th or 8th seed would be disappointing. unless they came into the playoffs riding a hot streak
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by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
Anyway we could turn Gilbert + McGee
into a real point guard?
That might solve alot of problems. We’d have to give up McGee to convince anyone to give us their guy while taking Gil’s salary.
by Manimal Smith on Dec 6, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
I'm beginning to think the miserable november has shaken the confidence of the team.
Can’t even beat cupcakes now.
You know
after Bradley got punched out last night the Capitals came back and destroyed the competition.
We just pretty much laid down and took it.
I am sick of seeing Gil laughing on the bench down by 8 to inferior competition. We need to change something.
Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!
Randy Foye looks like he is 100%
which means he of course got no run in the 2nd half
Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!
um -
mike james is finally healthy?
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Are you trying to make us even more depressed?
by Manimal Smith on Dec 6, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
gallows humor
is the only thing i have right now
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Dec 6, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
Our defense is MUCH better
We have talented offensive players and so its plausible that this will actually improve and that we will be alot better.
I never thought I’d see a team this stacked offensively that can’t get open looks.
by Manimal Smith on Dec 6, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
No, not quite
Gilbert just isn’t back yet and has to play his way there and maybe Caron is lost for some reason.
If Caron figures it out, then we will get better as Gil gets better. If we can sustain this defense and get back to 80% of our old offensive effectiveness, then we would be rather good.
by Manimal Smith on Dec 6, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Who wants to move it over to the post game rap that Jake posted?
anyone?
anyone?
Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!
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