Postgame notes and quotes: Wizards over Bucks
Some interesting stuff that people on the Wizards said before and after the game. Stats will be up later.
Boykins love
Earl Boykins wasn't originally going to talk to the media. He had somewhere to be and left before everyone got there, and the Wizards' PR people apologized to everyone on his behalf. But he eventually came back and chatted for a bit, though he's not the most talkative guy in the league.
One thing he was asked was about playing in Italy last year, which yielded an interesting answer.
"It was easy for me [to go to Europe], because when most guys go, they go because they're forced to. I chose to go. That's the big difference. When you choose to do something, it's easier to handle being away from home."
It's nice that he tells himself that, and clearly it's allowed him to persevere. But let's be honest, he kind of was forced to go to Europe. The money dried up in the 2008 offseason and nobody was willing to offer him good money, so he went to the only place that paid him. Nothing wrong with that, just saying his explanation doesn't seem right to me.
That was probably the only thing that I can find fault with Boykins for on this night. Many other guys talked about him, particularly his former teammates, Gilbert Arenas and Antawn Jamison.
Jamison said he couldn't believe that Boykins hasn't been able to stick anywhere.
It kind of amazes me that it's hard for this guy to stay stable in the league and stay on a team," he said, latter adding that "The only thing that amazes me [about Boykins] is that this guy was at home relaxing, and all of a sudden, he's acting like he hasn't missed any time."
Arenas was also asked why Boykins hasn't been able to stick, and said he thinks a lot of it has to do with the stigma that's resulted from his height. Arenas said people look at him and make assumptions that there are better guys out there because of how small he is. He also seemed totally comfortable with Boykins taking the last few shots, which is either a sign of selflessness or being overly passive, depending on your perspective.
"Coach yelled at us like four games ago, saying 'Why don't you run the goddamn floor?' I was like, 'Well, me and Earl got this thing going for the last couple years.' Earl goes and attacks, and if he doesn't have anything, he passes it back to me and I go. He knows that when he gets stuck, I'm behind him. That's just how we play."
There were people chanting "MVP! MVP!" when Boykins went to the free throw line. Jamison laughed about it and said he didn't hear until someone told him after the game, while Boykins said he also didn't hear it (which I don't believe).
Flip Saunders said the final play was indeed run for Boykins, and not Arenas, in case you guys were wondering. He considered playing Nick Young down the stretch instead of Boykins, but decided to stick with Boykins and it worked out.
(Below the jump: Caron Butler's aggressiveness, Gilbert Arenas' mid-range shooting, Arenas' beef with the refs, Brendan Haywood breaking down the defensive strategy on Andrew Bogut and Brandon Jennings and more)
Caron Butler's aggression had to do with his health
Comcast SportsNet's Chris Miller said it best tonight - Caron Butler had "that look." Before the game, he was out on the main court shooting game-speed jumpers - spot-up shots, one-dribble, etc. As he stepped onto the court, he took the ball from the ref, bounced it around, all while strutting from one side of the court to the other.
His numbers weren't incredible - 15 points on 10 shots - but he got to the line 10 times, attacked the rim and had a nasty throwdown on Bogut tonight. It was a Butler who wasn't settling for jumpers, instead choosing to attack sensibly. It was a Butler we hadn't seen all season.
After the game, I asked Butler what caused his renewed aggression. He said a lot of it had to do with his ankle feeling better. Remember, he missed the Philadelphia game and was nagged during the San Antonio game with that ankle.
My ankle is feeling better, and I'm able to maneuver. At the time I wasn't feeling so well, I was settling for jumpers and stuff because I couldn't explode to the basket and do some of the things I can do.
Then, as if catching himself mid-thought, he somewhat changed his tune so that it didn't seem like he was excusing his poor performance.
But I'm not going to make no excuses. I'm just going to go out there and play and don't point no fingers. I just try to do what I can. Sometimes, maybe for a guy like myself, 60 percent is better than somebody healthy, so I'm just trying to do the best I can. But now I'm definitely feeling much better and adding another dimension to this ballclub.
The explanation still makes some sense, though. We all know how Butler plays through pain often, so it's very possible that ankle injury was worse than he let on. Ankle injuries can nag you for a long time too - Derrick Rose, for example, is struggling in large part due to his slow recovery from a preseason ankle injury.
Butler didn't say whether Saunders told him to be more aggressive, saying instead that "it's common sense" to drive to the rim more, especially when a smaller player is defending him. However, Saunders said he did in fact talk to Butler and encouraged him to drive to the basket more often.
"I told [Caron], he's got to be more aggressive. He's one of the one guys that we have that can put it on the floor and beat people off the bounce. When he does that, it sucks the defense in a lot and it opens things up for everyone else."
Either way, I hope this keeps up. I also hope we see more of Caron posting up. I'll save this for a future video segment (if I can get source video), but I really liked how he was deployed tonight.
Butler also was very happy about his jam on Bogut, bragging that it was the second time he got Bogut in his career ("He's on my wall twice!"). I asked him when that other dunk happened (I didn't remember), and he said it happened last year. Anyone remember?
Gilbert Arenas angry at the referees
What started as an innocent question to Gilbert Arenas by Kyle from Truth About It turned into an all-our rant against the referees. Arenas accused the referees of "profiling" him and can't understand why he was called for two straight offensive fouls when he tried to drive to the rim.
Read more about it on Truth About It, where Kyle has the transcript of the exchange. It'll be interesting to see if Arenas gets fined at all for his comments.
This version of the "more aggressive Gilbert Arenas" means...
Arenas eventually calmed down, as he always does, and opened us up his mind, heart and soul about, well, everything. At one point, when asked about the bench, he praised DeShawn Stevenson's ability to play his role by saying he job previously was basically to make some shots and "irritate" the other team like Dennis Rodman used to do. I guess that's a compliment...
I eventually asked him about his mid-range jumper, which he seems to be knocking down far more proficiently than he did earlier in the season. Why is he stroking that shot now when he wasn't before?
"Now, I'm concentrating on shooting. Before, it was like 'Shit, I'm open, let me just shoot it before coach yells at me for not shooting it.' At the beginning, Twan was out, and I was scoring. Then, there was this little part about 6, 7 games ago where if I saw an open shot, I was taking it, but I wasn't in rhythm. I wasn't thinking about shooting. Now, I'm thinking about shooting again. When I come off the pick, I'm shooting instead of just thinking about passing."
I also asked him about Antawn Jamison's comments from last week and what it meant to hear him and Flip Saunders imploring him to be more aggressive. He said it helped a lot to hear those comments from them.
"I was afraid what those guys were going to think. I've been gone for two years. You come back, and they're holding up the ship. If you're coming back and you're coming back shooting, you don't want them to look at you sideways."
Brendan Haywood reads the scouting reports
Talk to Gilbert Arenas, and he'll break down offensive schemes and stuff like that in a very detailed manner. Brendan Haywood is the same way, except defensively.
I asked Haywood what the team strategy was on Andrew Bogut, who was held to just eight points on 4-14 shooting. Haywood had a major hand in that, of course, but Andray Blatche did a good job on Bogut as well. That's really key, because Bogut does so many things for the Bucks.
"Our strategy wasn't to double Bogut at all. We really just kind of wanted to stay at home. You don't want to make anyone comfortable, so you want to sometimes, when he starts dribbling, fake at him a little bit, make him think he might be being doubled when he's really not. But our whole thing was, listen, let's not let this guy get to his left. Even though he's right-handed, he really likes to use his left hand. Let's keep him off his left hand and take away his space for his jump shot."
Now THAT'S a detailed breakdown. It shows Haywood does his homework on players to make sure they won't get in their comfort zone. That's a huge part of being a good defensive player, and Haywood seems to have mastered it.
I also asked Haywood about the team's strategy on Brandon Jennings, who had 17 points, but needed 21 shots to get there.
"We really tried to converge at [Jennings] at the rim. We realized early on that he drives to score more than he drives to pass, so we really tried to step up, take away his scoring angles and make him shoot jump shots. That's just the name of the game. You make guys take contested jump shots, you're going to play good defense."
This is an interesting observation by Haywood. I have noticed a couple times that Jennings tends to shoot those little floaters once he gets into the lane instead of focusing on driving and dishing. He passes really well off the pick and roll on the perimeter, but not as well when he gets to the rim. Again, Haywood did his homework tonight and does it all season. That's the sign of a defensive leader.
Other stuff
Flip Saunders on Andray Blatche:
"Andray's in a tough situation. Right now, our two most consistent people have really been Antawn and Brendan. At times, it's tough to take those guys out. Sometimes, when Antawn gets on a roll, he's one of those guys where he gets on a roll, you want to keep him playing because he doesn't seem to get tired. He gets better as he keeps on going. But to Andray's credit, he's kept a positive attitude these past few games, and even though he played 19 minutes, he had a solid 19 minutes."
Antawn Jamison on beating two very different teams (Toronto and Milwaukee) in back-to-back nights.
"Knowing that the style of play [between TOR and MIL] is very different, for you to be able to adjust to that really speaks volumes. That's the type of team that we have to be. We can be a team that can run up and down the court with you, or we can be a team that can play physical and rebound and just grind it out."
Gilbert Arenas on the last play:
"On the last play, they were so worried about me, and I was like 'You're about get a rude awakening, because this is Earl's show.'"
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Mike – next time you’re interviewing Nick Young – ask him if he studies the pre-game scouting reports on his defensive assignment – and if he thinks it helps him?
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
He'll probably answer "Yes, and yes"
But sure. He’s not the most talkative dude though.
People did talk to him yesterday – I’ll listen through the tape if someone asked him about defense.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Perhaps easy yes/no questions are not the way then…
Something like, “What did you see in the pre-game scouting reports on XXX player that you thought you could do defensively?”
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
A little off topic
but of the reserves, who is the best interview and who seems to analyze the game the most?
Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!
Uhhh
Blatche gives short answers, but he’s got a nice wit. I like him a lot, but he’s not a nuts and bolts guy most of the time. Mike Miller and Randy Foye speak in cliches, but are courteous and will almost always talk. Mike James is a lunatic, but again, usually willing to talk. JaVale doesn’t say anything – guys mostly ignore him. DeShawn’s okay – you can get a quote out of him, but he doesn’t analyze much. I haven’t talked to Boykins or Crittenton much yet. Oberto’s tough to understand, but again, always courteous.
Really, it’s Brendan and Gilbert who really go in detail about stuff. Gilbert kind of just does it, but you have to prod a little bit with Brendan.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Re: Blatche
Flip could always sub Blatche in for Butler, and slide Jamison down to the SF spot. I think Jamison is at the point in his career where he won’t complain about playing that position (as long as it’s not for a long time).
best game for butler all year
i agree, he was the most aggressive i’ve seen him all season. i think a lot of it had to do with playing his home town team, milwaukee.
he still wasn’t quite as good as we’d like him to be, but it was definitely a step in the right direction. he actually got some assists!
by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 3, 2009 4:00 PM EST reply actions
I also really liked how they used him tonight
I really need source video to show this best, but I really wish Flip alters the system a bit to give Caron chances closer to the hoop like he did tonight. I think that would do a lot to get him going.
Of course, it did help that he had smaller guys on him for a good portion of the night.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
If you can remember any particular plays – especially at around when they happened…. I still have my recording of the game, and I could cut out some video for you…
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
Are you speaking about when . . .
He was abusing Bell in the post?
If so, I agree there has to be a way in the hawk system to get him the ball more in the post. I feel like that is where Tayshaun would always catch the ball in Detroit. And while Tayshaun would shoot fade-a-ways or dish, Caron can just muscle other 3s, draw fouls, and get lay ups.
shine like bald head, smoke trees call me log head
Yeah but
Bell is really more of a SG, right? I don’t think relying on the opponent to defend CB with guard is a long term strategy. Although I agree with your larger point that he might do better with more post work.
by MR on Dec 4, 2009 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
And that’s a good point… except Butler didn’t “abuse” bell in the post with his strength… he out-quicked him…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5aaAz_gJZs
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
That was a great move
I think there was another one in that stretch that Butler out muscled Bell.
by MR on Dec 4, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Nope – Three plays in a row, at the end of the 1st quarter, where he just torched Bell with his quickness…. once was a spin move to the baseline with a beautiful pass to Blatche for a dunk… the other was another face-up move, left, then right… he tried to dunk but was fouled.
All three illustrated Butler’s quickness in the post, even against a smaller (supposedly quicker guard) opponent.
One more point – in this article, Mike Prada says Caron is finally healthy. That his ankle is no longer bothering him as much…. and for the first time since his injury, we saw him explode to the rim and elevate for dunks (or attempted dunks)… Previously he was not elevating, and had to try to move the ball around, or use the rim (reverse) to protect the ball- and he was getting a lot of his shots blocked inside… I think that’s an extremely important point.. that we haven’t seen a healthy Butler for some time…..
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
By the way – I’d post the videos, but I think Mike is preparing an article to talk about Butler’s struggles – how to correct them, etc… and he may want to use them… so I don’t want to steal his thunder.
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
Yeah, it's going up over the weekend
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Yeah that was the play I was thinking of
and you are absolutely right he out-quicked him. I guess bc/ it was an and one I figured he has muscled up. Regardless I like Caron receiving the ball deep on the wing.
shine like bald head, smoke trees call me log head
i definitely think flip needs to tweak a bit
to adapt to caron. he’s not rip hamilton or tayshaun prince or wally szczerbiak or latrell sprewell.
of course i’d also like to see caron adapt to flip a bit. he def should catch and shoot more often.
i also have no issue with only featuring caron when we have a good matchup there, like we did last night, but we need to get him going more nights than not.
by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 3, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
MVP Chants
I think the crowd chanting MVP for Boykins is dc sports fans showing there knowledge of the game. Obviously, Boykins isn’t an MVP, but what he’s brought to the team in terms of play an attitude is just what we needed and it was the fans way of showing appreciation.
Also, I think Gil’s wording of being profiled is exactly right. Not getting calls when he penetrates was a big part of Gil losing his aggressiveness a few games ago. I don’t know if he has it in him, but maybe he should try and start dunking on people instead of bumping for space to get his shot off. He isn’t getting the foul call and he hasn’t been finishing great anyways.
Is M&M done for the month of December?
Did Caron really say " din't " did he
I’m just going to go out there and play and din’t point no fingers
Gil brought this ref trouble upon himself
a couple years ago when he made that comment about how he was studying refs and their tendencies to take advantage. NBA refs have ears and they have egos. As soon as he said that I figured every borderline call was going to go against him, and this latest quote is probably not going to make things better.
gil's lack of burst right now
is his biggest issue with not getting the calls or finishing well
by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 3, 2009 7:21 PM EST reply actions
Matter of time?
You think Gil has just hit a wall in terms of getting his legs under him and needs recovery time or this is just post injury Gil? Seemed like he had more burst early in the season. More than burst it seems like Gils top speed is less than it has been.
Gil is just tentative
Hey guys. This is my first post on this website. I just think Gil is tentative right now in all that he does. At least his mid-range jumper seems to be improving. I think it will just be a matter of time but it makes me crazy when I see he has a clear path to the rim and doesn’t take it. Those are easy layups or dishes to our bigs if the D chooses to come out on Gil.
Welcome
I agree, its mostly just Gil being tentative. I miss seeing that end to end speed. 3 on 3 or better, Gil should never think twice about attacking.
by forthepeople on Dec 3, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks
Just think, Gil put up 22 pts and 9 assists and he is not playing anywhere near his full potential yet. He is going to get there and I can’t wait!
by Craig_YorkPA on Dec 3, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
I hope you're right, but
The ghost of Grant Hill’s Orlando career keeps whispering at me. Maybe Gil returns to form by mid-season. If so, I think the Wiz nab the 4th seed in the playoffs and make a lot of trouble for people. He also might have just lost a step or two though. If so… we’re headed toward a lot of years of salary cap trouble.
taking the long view -
i think gil will be ok. other than looking like he has really tired legs, he seems to be ok health-wise. his mind/confidence is out of whack (seemingly getting better though). i’m terrified of a grant hill scenario as well, but so far i think things are ok, even if he’s not back to where he was yet.
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Dec 4, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
He Gilbert talk cracks me up.
His “bumps” in the lane were clear fouls. Nothing else to say the guy looks great and will only get better.
by Unxpekted on Dec 3, 2009 7:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'd like to see
Flip try and keep AJ from going over 40 minutes a game more often, at least this early in the season.
blatche has to stay out of foul trouble
by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 4, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Blatche really hasn't been in much foul trouble, plus
I wouldn’t mind seeing McGee some more minutes either.
It seems right now
That if we go by the 8 man rotation plus two, Flip’s basic plan is as follows.
Starters: Gilbert, Nick, Caron, Antawn, Brendan
Rotation guys: MM, Boykins, Blatche
+2: McGee, Foye, McGuire
Vets @ end of bench; DeShawn, Fab.
One of those guys has to be inactive every game. Wonder which one.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
you're right
the toronto game was an isolated incident.
and yeah, mcgee and oberto not really playing much right now.
by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 4, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Is it Just Me...
…or is Earl Boykins a far better option at point than Mike James ever was?
by StetSportsBlog.com on Dec 4, 2009 12:17 PM EST reply actions
Definitely not just you!
I wonder if Earl is good in spite of being so short or good because he worked so hard to overcome being so short.
Off topic
Mike- Do you happen to know what marching band that was playing at the the game against the Bucks?

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