Washington Wizards vs. Memphis Grizzlies: Regular Season Game 29 Open Thread
by Mike Prada on Dec 28, 2009 4:15 PM EST
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PrintWashington Wizards at Memphis Grizzlies, Dec 28, 2009 8:00 PM EST
The Essentials:
Wizards (10-18) vs. Grizzlies (13-16)
8 p.m.
Fed Ex Forum
TV: CSN, NBATV
Radio: 106.7 The Fan
Notable Grizzlies numbers this season
18th in expected winning percentage (.433)
11th in pace (95.9 possessions per game)
10th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (108.8 points/100 possessions)
28th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (110.9 points/100 possessions allowed)
Pre-game links
Straight Outta Vancouver, SB Nation's Memphis Grizzlies blog
3 Shades of Blue, a Grizzlies blog
Memphis Commercial Appeal Grizzlies blog with Ron Tillery
Mike Jones: Frustration marks beginning of Saunders era
GameDay Memphis
| Tonight's Projected Starters | ||
|---|---|---|
| Wizards | vs. | Grizzlies |
| Gilbert Arenas | PG | Mike Conley |
| Randy Foye | SG | Ovinton J'Anthony Mayo |
| Caron Butler | SF | DeMarre Carroll |
| Antawn Jamison | PF | Zach Randolph |
| Brendan Haywood | C | Marc Gasol |
UPDATE: Another CSN+ game, sorry, forgot there was a Caps game tonight. Also, it appears Rudy Gay is out tonight with an injury. That's a nice break.
Watching Memphis depresses me. Why? It's nothing the Grizzlies have done wrong; in fact, it's what they've done right. On paper, this was supposed to be the team the Wizards currently resemble. Selfish, unable to do the little things, sniping at each other, etc. In other words, a team far less than the sum of its parts.
Instead, the Grizzlies are 13-16 and 7-4 in December. They have wins over Dallas, Cleveland and Denver. They're playing together and playing unselfishly despite employing Zach Randolph. Randolph, by the way, is playing unbelievably, with a 22.1 PER, a monster rebounding effort (grabbing over 20% of available defensive rebounds) and actually doing it while helping his teammates out. The Grizzlies are riding him as their go-to guy, and surprisingly, everyone else, including Rudy Gay and O.J. Mayo, is falling in line. He's exactly the type of player who feasts on the Wizards, and it's not exactly going out on a limb to say he'll have a big game tonight.
Besides Randolph, stopping Gay is going to be a challenge. Last year, Gay kind of regressed, but this year, he's rebounded in large part because he's improved his shot selection. Sixty-nine percent of his shots were jumpers last year; that's down to 62% this year. Naturally, his production is way up. You listening, Caron Butler? Jumpers are bad. Nevermind, Gay's out.
Then, you have Marc Gasol, who is shockingly putting up a 20.1 PER with a 64.1 TS%. Where did that come from?
Point is, this wasn't supposed to work, but it is. Meanwhile, the Wizards were supposed to work, but aren't. Hence, depressing.
It should be a fun game though. Memphis is a bad defensive team, so there's a good chance this will be one hell of a shootout. Plus, with Oklahoma City on the back end of a back-to-back, the Wizards might really gun for this one. As always, you never know with this team.
GO WIZARDS!
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Marc Gasol
Why is he improving? He plays. 30.41 minutes per game last year in all 82 games. 35.3 minutes per game in 29 games this year.
Why is this concept so hard to understand?
Blatche took four years to log this many minutes. McGee will never get this many minutes at the corrrect rate.
Management and coaches have to decide who is worth the time and effort to develop. The Wizards have shown no eptitude in this regard. They would rather see Oberto flop and leave the lane wide open for 5 put backs.
Wow
Flip almost calling out Antawn?
Remember, after the 76’er game, Antawn said: "I think last night was a case of the ball not coming my way…….." after he kicked the scorer’s table and pouted on the sidelines.
Now Flip’s been quoted as saying: “Until we decide that we get upset when we miss defensive assignments as much as we get upset when we don’t get the ball on offense, we’re not going to take that next step.”
hmmm…………
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
I'm less worried about Randolph
And more concerned about Mike Conley, who routinely plays very well against the Wizards. Ovinton J’Anthony M. could present some trouble, too; he has a size advantage, if I’m not mistaken.
Mayo's guarding Arenas
Conley’s guarding Foye.
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Aggressive Start
I’m loving the early energy tonight that has been lacking so much in the past few games.
NBA TV
why is NBA TV blacked out again?! I’m tired of these “sandard” def games.
Gilbert really needs to take more pride on defense
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Gilbert's shot
The silver lining in all of this mess we’ve called our season has been watching little pieces of Gilbert’s game (such as that three) slowly, but surely, begin to materialize.
anybody know what the crap channel csn+ is
on fios?
Go Team USA, Braves, BU Terriers, Irish, Colts, Caps, Hoyas, NW Cats, Wizards, DC United, Washington Freedom, and Skins!
I'm not sure it's on Fios
But I don’t have Fios so I don’t know.
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Rebounding
They said they were going to focus on rebounding tonight, but they aren’t even trying to get the offensive rebound. The wiz just start running back to the other end of the court after they take a shot.
What the hell was Antawn doing on that play?
That was almost comical – he went all the way to the other side of the court and just jogged back to Randolph.
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God we are such a shit defensive team
Sorry to be frank, but if we didn’t have Haywood, we’d give up infinite points every night.
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Caron/ Offense
Is it just me or does it seem like the offense starts to hiccup the moment the ball gets to Caron?
Why go away from the pick Randy? Why?
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My goodness
There was one play where Caron actually got a nice screen coming off the curl, but as soon as he caught it, he stepped back instead of going to the rim. This is when he caught the ball at the free throw line. He took a beeline right back to the three-point line.
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Love Chenier saying softly how it wasn't a good shot
Calm as only Chenier can be, but you could tell he was like “WTF man, never do that again.”
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Nick young thinks hes Dwayne Wade
he thinks hes flash
Has Antawn played the whole game?
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trying to remember the last time
I heard an announcer say, “they’re just leaving the Wizards open!” Don’t think that happened once this season.
Boykins sucks at creating ball movement
by Unxpekted on Dec 28, 2009 8:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Foye for Boykins
Wouldn’t anyone else rather see Foye run point while Arenas gets abreather? I couldn’t agree with uNXPEKTED more about Boykins inability to run the offense.
I think EVERYONE else would rather see it....
by SkinsWizStangs on Dec 28, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno, Earl's been fine tonight
In the future, it’s better for Foye to be a backup 1 than a starting two, that’s for sure.
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Earl
While he doesn’t damage the offense in the traditional sense, he clearly damages our ability to run the offense flip is trying to implement. This sort of free lancing offense is the problem, at least that I see, with Caron also and it would be in our best interest as a team to get away from it. In my opinion, it will require us getting away from Boykins as a backup PG in order to accomplish that.
Go Butler!!!!!!! Streetball in the NBA
by Unxpekted on Dec 28, 2009 8:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I did not just see Tinsley do that
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Arenas is the only thing I like from the Wizards
by Unxpekted on Dec 28, 2009 8:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Boykins is abysmal give it to Arenas
by Unxpekted on Dec 28, 2009 8:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I like that we're finally doubling Randolph
He can’t pass out of a double team. Not sure why this took so long.
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Matchup zone working because the Grizz have no outside shooters
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Memphis is dropping an extra guy in the corner vs. the zone
Nice counter by them.
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No Foye the entire second quarter
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Mystery Rotation
Flip’s decision to keep Foye at bay just doesn’t make sense to me. I was absolutely thrilled ath te beginning of the season watching Foye go for 19 next to Arenas. I thought this combo was going to be absolute dynamite, yet we still only catch them together in the 1st and if we are lucky in the 4th for a short while. Any insight on that Prada?
I'll be there tomorrow, will try to ask about it
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Crap, forgot to switch the video AGAIN
God I suck at this. How did nobody call me out?
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Switched now
I think this one is pretty funny
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Nice to see Antawn not settle there
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Foul Line
We haven’t been drawing many fouls this game. A sign of us settling for jump shots I suppose…
Good defensive set ruined by an awful Foye shot
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Caron just yelled at Antawn for something
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Antawn needs to clear out on that screen way faster too
I think that’s what Caron was trying to tell him.
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Caron is the worst at dribbling through traffic
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Why would you ever double off Mayo?
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So your coach can call a 20 timeout and tell you what you did wrong.
by MR on Dec 28, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Come on Nick, hang in there
Stop losing concentration when things go wrong.
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A play like that just nullifies a good stepback jumper.
by MR on Dec 28, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Nice D by Jamison
(checks to see if pigs are flying).
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Rebounding Differential
It’s starting to look bad for us at 18-34. We really need to step it up on the boards
Why did Caron give that ball up??
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They seem to be running the sets decently tonight
We’re scoring efficiently, just not defending.
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Good question
I don’t really see a lot of consistent organized plays. Maybe I’m just getting used to the offense, but I could recognize the Princeton when they ran it. I don’t see a lot of plays with the team this year.
by MR on Dec 28, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
It's tougher to recognize Flip's offense
But everytime you see someone set a backpick for the shooting guard, it means they’re at least running the cut that initiates the offense.
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I don’t doubt I’m just missing a lot of what they’re running, but the offensive end still feels disorganized to me. Compared to what I used to see Detroit run for example.
by MR on Dec 28, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it's definitely disorganized
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Well-Rounded....not
It sucks to see our offense producing at such a good clip (particularly the main 3) while the defense allows the opposition to remain competitive.
Wizards are 72.7% from 3-point land
Can’t remember the last time I saw a stat like that. Now if they can just win the game.
There you go Caron
That’s getting a score in transition. Do more of that.
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Bench Play
It’s a pity we weren’t capable of exploiting the Grizzlies paper thin bench. We should be fairly productive on the bench but somehow we aren’t.
The first few minutes of the fourth is key
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Yep
I’ve got to say, though, that Tinsley’s played well enough this year that he can almost make up for their complete lack of a scorer off the bench. What are the odds that Boston or LA trades for him before the end of the year?
by pantslessyoda1 on Dec 28, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
wasn't last season
supposed to give the Nick Youngs and Andre Blatches so much PT that they’d be light years ahead of the opposition’s bench?
I like seeing Arenas and Young switch on defense
Gil’s probably better equipped to guard most non-elite 2s anyways, and Young’s size is probably doing more to cut off penetration than Gil’s moderately better quickness. Despite the Tinsley plays and Conley’s scoring, I actually hope we keep on doing this.
It looked like Gil stuck on Arenas most of the time
I think if they switched, it was in zone sets.
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Yeah, you're probably right
I just remember Detroit having success doing a similar switch with Chauncey and Rip.
by pantslessyoda1 on Dec 28, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
I also think Arenas's natural defensive position right now is at 2
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 28, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
Unfortunately, on defense, we don’t have anyone who’s natural position is point guard.
by pantslessyoda1 on Dec 28, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
I think Foye is pretty decent at the 1 defensively
too bad Critt is hurt that is where he would come in.
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 28, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that's true
It just sucks that the memory of Jason Richardson and Dwyane Wade destroying him in the paint is still burned into my mind.
by pantslessyoda1 on Dec 28, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
Nice handoff by Blatche
Nice run through the line on the break. Is this football?
by MR on Dec 28, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
Nice play Dray!
Way to step in there.
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Shooting Percentage
We have one player (Nick Young) shooting under 50%. Then we have Boykins 0/6. Gotta love the pint sized goose egg leading us into the fourth.
To be fair
two of three of those were shotclock beaters that he had to take.
Plus 6 asists, 1 TO
by MR on Dec 28, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
Mayo's locked down Arenas
Get Haywood back in already.
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ITS TOO LATE BOOOOYKINS DID HIS DAILY DAMAGE!!!
GOO BOOYKINS.. I can see it now on NBA TV
Boykins Washington Wizards Superstar finds another way to get his team in a deficit and amazingly serves them up another loss!!!!!!! Wizards lose again to excessive dribbling, defensive liability, and immediate lack of trusting teamates and ball movement when he is in. HE IS SENSATIONAL!
Go Boykins!!! WHOOOOO
On a serious note: I predict this everygame. Yet. Someone comes out and says oh its Arenas’ fault. Lets see Boykins amazing assist stats for the night.
Just like to note...
when Boykins first came in, in the beginning of the 4th quarter it was a one point memphis lead
by SkinsWizStangs on Dec 28, 2009 10:01 PM EST reply actions
You should not have a 9 pt drop off when a backup comes in!
Boykins is a liability, period
by SkinsWizStangs on Dec 28, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah Earl's hurt the team tonight
HOWEVA, it’s also worth noting the effect of Haywood being out. He went out at the same time as Gil.
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I understand that if this was a new thing
but it happens almost like clockwork most games this season. I understand that there are different factors to it.
by SkinsWizStangs on Dec 28, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
BOYKINS IS AWEFUL!!! PLEASE LET ARENAS BE A SUPERSTAR
THANK YOU SKINSWIZSTANGS
Stop it please
This isn’t about being right.
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Starting Line-up
It’s tough, but I think they can dig this one out of the hole. Let’s get it together starters!!!
I've liked Foye's play the last few games
Not to turn this into another Boykins debate, but I like seeing Foye play that sparkplug/playmaker role a lot more than him, mostly because he’s actually capable of playing off the ball and contesting a shot on the perimeter.
by pantslessyoda1 on Dec 28, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
True
Still, I think that was mostly just a result of coming back from an injury and losing his rhythm. He was decent last year and at the beginning of the season, so I think he’s getting back to where he’ll typically be.
by pantslessyoda1 on Dec 28, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
if it's defense and not the offense that's a problem tonight
would it be too much to have Taser in for Jamison?
Nice box out by AJ
Seems like everyone is hustling a bit more for rebounds now.
by pantslessyoda1 on Dec 28, 2009 10:07 PM EST reply actions
Yeah Antawn's played a much better game tonight
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yeah though I see him more as
backup 1 with Miller at the 2 ideally
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 28, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
wake up flip
this team wants to run…throw the playbook out!
by baltimorebullets80 on Dec 28, 2009 10:08 PM EST reply actions
Foul trouble, injuries, and far too many similarly talented players at his position.
Wait until Mike Miller comes back. Foye, Boykins, or Young will fall out of the rotation faster than you can say “Stevenson”.
by pantslessyoda1 on Dec 28, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully Earl
Foye/Miller provides enough ball-handling as a tandem.
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Yeah
I’ve just been burned by previous coaches playing the hell out of veterans coughsongailaandstevensoncough over younger, better players who make more mistakes.
by pantslessyoda1 on Dec 28, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
Foye needs to get out in transition more
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this is a fast break team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by baltimorebullets80 on Dec 28, 2009 10:09 PM EST reply actions
they didnt rebound when they were first at the all star break. The Suns don’t rebound either.
by baltimorebullets80 on Dec 28, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
Well yeah
But it’s not quite as simple as saying “okay, we’re running.” The players got to get out and run. They normally aren’t doing that.
Flip’s told them to run.
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on a serious note… im sick of the past 15 games all consisting of
having a lead
boykins bringing it down to a deficit
us trying to overwork, overcome a deficit in five minutes in the fourth. And then losing two points. You have to close games out and if we continue to play Boykins we are going to lose alot of games this season.
So who can we play instead??
In this case, I think having Haywood out made as much of a difference
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Foye
Boykins is currently filling his role and playing his minutes.
by pantslessyoda1 on Dec 28, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
to the geniuses
Washington is a top 10 rebounding team. No reason this team isn’t running and gunning.
by baltimorebullets80 on Dec 28, 2009 10:17 PM EST reply actions
14th in offensive rebounding, 22nd in defensive rebounding
Go by percentages, not numbers.
http://knickerblogger.net/stats/2010/Wizards.htm
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FAIL
look up the phoenix suns’ numbers too while you are at it.
by baltimorebullets80 on Dec 28, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Look, the Wizards are eighth in pace
They run. Phoenix is fourth, playing at an average of a possession and a half more than the Wizards.
I never thought a Flip team would be that fast-paced, but they are. I’m not really sure what else to tell you.
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im not asking you to tell me anything..LOL
you the one spitting out stats that seem irrelevant. This team aint running like they used to. And no stat you can spit out can defend that besides a coaching decision. IMO.
by baltimorebullets80 on Dec 28, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Why are they irrelevant?
You said the Wizards initially were a top 10 rebounding team. They aren’t.
You said the Wizards don’t run. They’re playing at the eighth-fastest pace in the league in terms of possessions per game.
The stats are only irrelevant because they disprove your thesis.
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o god
seriously. Whether its numbers or percentages stat man..the point is the same The wizards have better rebounding than the suns. The most successful running team in the league. Pace? This team shoots jumpshots with 20 seconds on the clock. Thats your pace. Statistics can prove or disprove anything. Watching this team you cannot tell me that they run. SORRY. They did to get back into this game.
by baltimorebullets80 on Dec 28, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
The weird thing is that we've got decent rebounding from our starters at four of the five positions
I think we’ll be a lot better once Miller comes back, though. Ditto if we actually wise up and start playing McGuire more and/or give some minutes to Javale. There’s really no reason for us to see Oberto or Stevenson on the court for the rest of the year.
by pantslessyoda1 on Dec 28, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think the rebounding has much to do with running and gunning
The Suns were always at best mediocre on the boards if I recall correctly, and the Warriors are likely atrocious. D’Antoni teams run off of makes and misses, regardless of whether or not they get a rebound.
by pantslessyoda1 on Dec 28, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
in fact a team that runs alot
often suffers on the rebounding end as a result of sending guys up court instead of back to get the defensive board.
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 28, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
Fair enough
But they’re still eighth in pace. They’re running a lot more than I would have expected.
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Same here
I think a lot of it is just Gil taking so many quick shots, along with Boykins pushing the ball up the floor.
by pantslessyoda1 on Dec 28, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
jesus christ
pace? iverson voice( pace? we talking bout pace?). I cant see how you can make the case for this team running based on their PACE ranking. The number of posseions per game has SOOO much more to do with things OTHER than fast breaking .. like too many quick jumpshots and a lack of DEFENSE. Watching the ACTUAL games and not crunching FANTASY FORMULAS has me seeing a team that aint running and gunning.
by baltimorebullets80 on Dec 28, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
Please be respectful
You’re right, there’s a lot that goes into pace numbers, but you can’t dismiss that number offhand. You just can’t. And it’s not even a question of turning the jets loose or anything like that – when the players don’t run out on the break, you can’t run.
What you’re really advocating is for smarter running – i.e. better execution of breaks, not more of an emphasis on running.
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if anything i have said is disrepecful i apologize
I don’t see a team that is running like they used to. PERIOD. Thats my original point. We just agree to disagree. Pace is not a good stat to measure running. I AM emphasizing more running. I dont see it like i used to. Stats dont tell that story.m
by baltimorebullets80 on Dec 28, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
We might win guys! PLEASE PLEASE
I am Mike James agent. Im rich bitch lol cue clip of Mike James telling camera how good he is.
Ill take AD over Boyk anyday
couldn't see either
thats why i said “he” lol. Either foye or butler i think
by SkinsWizStangs on Dec 28, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Am I the only one praying that this game ends with Z Bo taking a contested three off the dribble from the top of the key?
Even though Conley from the corner is a lot more likely.
by pantslessyoda1 on Dec 28, 2009 10:26 PM EST reply actions
lol exactly
but get ready to inhale again and hold it for 9.4 seconds
by SkinsWizStangs on Dec 28, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
Doesn't have the DNA to be a star
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I agree
He’s a good second or third banana, but he just lacks that killer instinct. That said, there aren’t too many guys who are better at hitting contested 18 footers, so he should in theory be good in late game situations.
by pantslessyoda1 on Dec 28, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Brook Lopez is the same way
I actually got into a huge argument today about his ceiling, my point being that he’s not going to get that much better as a scorer because he can actually already hit free throws and post up.
by pantslessyoda1 on Dec 28, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
OK - let's put JaVale in for a lob
at the top of the Key
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
Really? What happened?
And don’t you have to play to get hurt?
by pantslessyoda1 on Dec 28, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Dear Steve Buckhantz
Why would you even mention Javale after his mental debacle against Indiana
by SkinsWizStangs on Dec 28, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions
gil is way too happy
no such thing as “almost” great play
Would that have counted??
If so. Man that would’ve been best shot ever
by SkinsWizStangs on Dec 28, 2009 10:36 PM EST reply actions
That should have counted if it went in
You get .3 seconds to turn and shoot.
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Which rule is that?
The one that says with .1 second left, you can go up, catch a ball, come down, shoot, and get fouled? all in .1 second?
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
too much analyzis of a moot shot. gil needs to get rid of the grin.
by larrystewart33 on Dec 28, 2009 10:37 PM EST reply actions
Meh he can grin if he comes through in the end
Body language analysis is overrated.
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by Mike Prada on Dec 28, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agree with too much analysis of the shot
but I actually think that might have been a good thing for Gilbert.
by SkinsWizStangs on Dec 28, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
That time, it was Caron not boxing Randolph out
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ahh the butler pump fake into a jumpshot :(
by baltimorebullets80 on Dec 28, 2009 10:40 PM EST reply actions
I know Gil and Wood have five
But it might be time to go back to man.
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theres your PACE stat. Gil with the quick jumper :(
by baltimorebullets80 on Dec 28, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions
That one was because Foye was stupid
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cant be mad at Jamison…atleast he is driving
by baltimorebullets80 on Dec 28, 2009 10:45 PM EST reply actions
Yeah he needed to give that one to Gil
Shocked that wasn’t an over the back
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indeed
I’d rather go offense/defense with Blatche/AJ
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 28, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Randolph would kill Blatche too
He is using his lower body strength to muscle them guys outta there
by SkinsWizStangs on Dec 28, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
this should be a public service announcement
Zach Randolph: “See what happens when you put down the weed”
by baltimorebullets80 on Dec 28, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
I have yet to see a coach around here
with the guts to say, “I know this guy’s a an All-Star, but he can’t guard any real PFs so maybe I should sit him until we need a score.”
Eddie Jordan and Mike D'antoni are the only 2 coaches in the league
who Flip could follow and be considered a “defensive improvement”
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 28, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
Is it me or has Gil gone for the layup when we needed a three 4 or 5 times this year?
by mdd1970 on Dec 28, 2009 10:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
an 82 track emo record. produced by flip saunders. ugh.
by larrystewart33 on Dec 28, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions
time out?
Does Flip have a 6 point play?
by hotplate on Dec 28, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Whats new the free throws dont matter when you lose the game in the 3rd by inserting Boykins.
I have an idea. Never play Boykins again and I garuntee we will win some f*ing games.
Wizards “battle back” you mean Wizards try to “make up for Boykins friggin terrible play”
I knew you were gonna say that
Even though theres other factors involved, I agree with you 100%
by SkinsWizStangs on Dec 28, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Why not blame AJ
he missed a layup with 11:00 left in the 1st quarter. If he had hit that there wouldn’t have been an overtime.
It has been a common theme since he's been here.
Tonight when he came in during the 4th it was a 1 point MEM lead, he came out it was a 10 pt MEM lead. And literally in 2:30 seconds the Wizards tied the game after he came out. Boykins getting consistent minutes is driving me crazy as well.
by SkinsWizStangs on Dec 28, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
New thread
Too mad for words. We suck.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
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