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Randy Foye's starting, learning the harsh reality of being a reserve

If there's one thing I learned about Randy Foye from talking to him this year, it's that he stays professional.  He won't even come close to badmouthing a teammate, a coach or even his situation.  It's a nice quality on a team that tends to speak out it's frustrations publicly.  

So when he says stuff like this, stuff that even hints of dissension, it's significant.  

"It definitely was a difficult situation, because that never happened to me before, coming in for four minutes and being taken out -- even if you make a shot. It was tough for me,"

He's right -- he's never been through this before.  In Minnesota, they desperately pumped his psyche up and started him all the time, hoping that he would be a cornerstone like the guy they traded him for, Brandon Roy.  They tried him at point guard and shooting guard, but they always gave him his guaranteed 35 minutes.  They even gave him the ball with the game on the line, asking him to make the winning plays.  In short, he was treated like a much bigger star than he was.

Now, he comes to Washington, and he learns the ballad all reserve players learn.  Life isn't fair.  You don't get the same opportunities stars get.  If you play like crap, you don't get several minutes to "get into a rhythm."  And Foye has not played well this year -- his on/off numbers are scary-bad, he's jacked terrible shots, can't defend two-guards well and isn't passing nearly as well as he did in Minnesota.  In short, Foye is learning the lesson Nick Young has learned for three years now (and is apparently continuing to learn, as he's now been relegated by his own coach to being a reserve player despite displaying the best perimeter defense on the team).  

The question now becomes whether Foye fades away or adjusts.  I mean, sure, he's starting now, but as soon as Mike Miller gets back, Foye's minutes likely drop.  Flip Saunders has essentially said he's starting because he doesn't want to fiddle with Young's role.  It's causing a lot of raised eyebrows to those who wonder why Saunders is stunting Young's role, but at least Young has a role.  Foye's gone from doghouse to starting, all so Saunders can help facilitate a smoother transition once Mike Miller comes back.  It's pretty similar to Saunders' decision to start Fabricio Oberto over Andray Blatche early in the season with Antawn Jamison out.  Oberto went from starting to never playing, while Blatche's role didn't change much.  Longwinded explanation aside, the point is that Foye's spot in this rotation isn't guaranteed.

The key, then, for Foye is to get to the point where he plays the same way with 35 minutes as he does with five.  Let's set aside the obvious coaching answer to this rotation problem for a second (putting Foye at point guard, where he's played much better this year, and benching Earl Boykins), and the truth that Saunders hasn't helped Foye by making his role confusing.  From Foye's perspective, he has to understand that coaches want their sixth-ninth men to display stability of some sort.  Boykins may not be better than Foye, but as a coach, you know that, when Boykins comes in, he will push the ball down the court, run offensive sets (incorrectly, but he'll run them) and create some sort of shot when things go wrong.  Boykins will do that in 30 minutes or five minutes, it doesn't matter.  Foye hasn't reached that point.  He admitted he's still in "I need to get into a rhythm" mode, and for coaches, that's code for "I can't trust you as a reserve."

Who knows, maybe this "doghouse" stint is what Foye needed.  It's easy to say "I will sacrifice for the good of the team," but it's much harder to do it.  So Randy, now that you have your slight chance to show your skills until your playing time gets lost again, here's some advice.  Play to your strengths.  Shoot spot-up threes instead of off-the-dribble long twos, understand you aren't a good driver unless you drive to pass, do less dribbling and blend in.  Realize you aren't being asked to be a star.  You'll get more minutes that way because you'll play like a guy who can do his thing no matter how much playing time he gets.  

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Love that last paragraph. I hope Foye gets it. Like everyone else, I expected more from him this year.

by Vic De Zen on Dec 22, 2009 11:17 AM EST reply actions  

Can't blame Randy

Go to 82games.com and check out his playing time with different five-man units. He has basically played with a different group of players every time he has stepped on the court.

by yop32 on Dec 22, 2009 11:34 AM EST reply actions  

You can still blame Randy

He’s been jerked around, but he’s also played like crap since the ankle injury. The way he’s played, any coach in the league would treat him like an afterthought.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 22, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Chicken or egg

Is he playing like crap because he’s been “jerked around,” or has he been jerked around because he is playing like crap?

What’s undeniable is that there is a strong correlation on this team between playing like crap and being jerked around.

Playing like crap and being jerked around a lot: Foye, Oberto, Dominic, and McGee.
Playing OK and being jerked around some due to injuries to other players: Arenas and Haywood.
Playing well and not being jerked around much at all: Young, Blatche, and Jamison.
Outliers: Stevenson and Butler have both been playing like crap, but have not been jerked around that much.

I think it would be worthwhile to see what happens when there’s less jerking around.

by yop32 on Dec 22, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not even a chicken-egg thing

Because it goes both ways. From Foye’s perspective, the bottom line is he has to play better, because it largely appears he’s going to continue to be jerked around.

That’s where the “life’s not fair” thing comes in. He’s a reserve that hasn’t performed (as opposed to Young, who has performed pretty well, yet the coaches don’t notice). You’re going to get jerked around under those circumstances.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 22, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

yup
Foye has not played well this year — his on/off numbers are scary-bad, he’s jacked terrible shots, can’t defend two-guards well and isn’t passing nearly as well as he did in Minnesota.

and on the bright side… (thinking… thinking… still thinking…)

this really is maddening. why are we not bringing him in as a combo guard off the bench? it’s like there is no plan whatsoever for a guy we gave up a lottery pick for.

ERNIE! FLIP! WTF!

by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 22, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Ya.. Randy (not Miller) was our Number 5 Pick....

and yes he got more burn and more slack with Minnesota last year than he should have expected here…. Now’s his chance, and the season is pretty much on the line …. We shall see.

by khrabb on Dec 22, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Foye hasn't played enough...

…to evaluate him. At PG, his PER is 16.7 and the opposition PER is 12.6 for a plus 4.1. Just not enough minutes to make any conclusions.

The NBA game has a large mental part to it – and the coach can have a large part in it. Getting in a rhythm requires different things for different people (even before you get to team chemistry).

Do you think any of the Wizard’s players think they are going to win at the end of a game coming out of a time-out?

Does Foye think he’ll be benched after one missed shot, or one bad game?

Does McGee think he’ll be benched for a month for a funny video?

None of the Wiz heads are screwed on right now. It starts with lowering expectations. Let’s see if they can run some basic plays, move the ball and get open shots – for 48 minutes. No other pressure.

by Izman on Dec 22, 2009 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

I believe the need to use him in the role, they set for him in training camp.

For the first month or so of the season including training camp, he was being groomed to be the backup 1. He played fairly well in that role until the ankle injury. Then when Flip “fell in love” with Boykins, and Foye came back he was not in a consistent role and never got in a rhythm. Boykins was brought in as a “filler” for foye not a long-term replacement. Put Foye back in the position the set out for him to be.

by SkinsWizStangs on Dec 22, 2009 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

i agree

this seems so obvious to me.

if he sucks he sucks. but we invested so much in the guy we have to find out for sure.

by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 22, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

But why is Foye surprised?

Everyone knew there was going to be a logjam of guards. Wasn’t that the running joke through preseason?

And it’s not like we’re talking about Crittenton here (who’s been out all season). Foye had to know that he was one of the “new guys,” and that between NY and Miller his pt would be sporadic.

by Pryme on Dec 22, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

The problem is that he has had to play with so many different lineups

He has played 377 minutes this year. Out of all that time, the most time he has spent in any single lineup is 21.1 minutes (with Gil, Caron, Blatche, and Haywood). For comparison, Nick has played 353 minutes, 112.4 minutes in a single lineup (with Gil, Caron, Antawn, and Haywood).

How is Foye supposed to get in sync with his teammates when he doesn’t get a chance to play with the same guys on a regular basis? 21.1 minutes? A single pickup game at the YMCA takes longer than that.

by yop32 on Dec 22, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

the lineups thing is partially Flip's fault

injuries aside, it would have been better if he just put his top bench players in the starting lineup. But it’s a catch-22: do that and then your bench suffers.

As for Foye: he’s supposed to get get in sync with his teammates during practice and preseason.

by Pryme on Dec 22, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

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