Washington Wizards vs. Sacramento Kings: Regular Season Game 23 Open Thread
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 1:19 PM EST
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Washington Wizards at Sacramento Kings, Dec 16, 2009 10:30 PM EST
The Essentials:
Wizards (7-15) vs. Kings (10-13)
10:30 p.m.
ARCO Arena
TV: ESPN
Radio: 106.7 The Fan
Notable Kings numbers this season
15th in expected winning percentage (.483)
8th in pace (94.5 possessions per game)
T7th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (110)
26th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (110.5)
Pre-game links
Sactown Royalty, SB Nation's Kings Blog
Cowbell Kingdom
Kings: $1 beer night giveaway means there are very few seats left
Gameday Sacramento
| Tonight's Projected Starters | ||
|---|---|---|
| Wizards | vs. | Kings |
| Gilbert Arenas |
PG | Tyreke Evans |
| DeShawn Stevenson |
SG | Donte Greene |
| Caron Butler |
SF | Andres Nocioni |
| Antawn Jamison |
PF | Jason Thompson |
| Brendan Haywood |
C | |
Getting this one up kind of early, so apologies for stuff not being filled in.
This game is on ESPN now, and that's probably because of the Kings, not the Wizards. Sacramento's been one of the league's surprise teams this season, and I think there are two major reasons for that. First is Tyreke Evans, who has been all that and then some. Coach Paul Westphal has been giving him the ball, and Evans has responded. Portland coach Nate McMillan compared him to Magic Johnson after last night's game. Magic Johnson! I have no clue who exactly will stop Evans tonight.
The other reasons, I think, is Westphal himself. The Kings have had a ton of young players, but Westphal has given them a lot of rope and they've responded. He wasn't afraid to start Donte Greene and give Omri Casspi a lot of Andres Nocioni's minutes. He isn't afraid to give Jason Thompson a lot of rope even though he still struggles with fouls a lot. Most importantly, he's put the ball in Evans hands and thrown him right into the fire. It's worked pretty damn well so far considering the lack of top-flight talent on this team (worth noting: the Kings' best player, Kevin Martin, is injured, and they're still doing this well).
Every time I watch the Kings, I'm smitten by them. They play so hard and get the most out of their talent. They lose on the road (1-10), but they're always competitive. They're lights-out at home (9-3) and have blown out some teams there too. This will not be an easy game at all.
It's also worth noting that tonight is $1 beer night at ARCO Arena, which is probably going to make the crowd way rowdier than ever. Should be interesting at least.
All in all, with the Wizards playing like they have, tonight is a tall order. (Who the heck though we'd say that for a road game against the freakin' Kings!?). I just hope we don't get blown out. Lowered expectations means less disappointment.
GO WIZARDS!
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Mike Miller
Any word on when he’ll be back? Was supposed to be during this West Coast trip and boy could the Wizards use him.
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by RedHopeful on Dec 16, 2009 1:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sac is no better than Celts, Heat, or Mavs. We can get a win. Ratio of wins to losses, says we win.
Win situation:
1st. Starters get involved together and share minutes with subs. Meaning instead of having all starters out during periods balance them in between. Make sure Arenas is confidence, having fun, assertive, and not just assisting but scoring.
2nd. Unselfish play, if you dont have a shot PASS. Dont settle for jumpers. Watch great teams it looks like the ball is circling around the court to set a world record for passes. They are not trying to do that its because ball movement usually leads to an efficient shot and throws off defensive strategies.
3rd. LESS Boykins, alot less DM, Deshawn and MORE Young, McGee ALOT of Blatche and SOME Foye
Watch Boykins you will see as his time + the scoreboard on the Wizards side will -. It has been a consistent trend people have let go unoticed.
4th. Good defense.
5th. Mental toughness
6th. Bring Mike Ruffin back and have him throw the ball in the air at the end and then catch in air to do a reverse slam while holding up a picture of Lebron James crying after every single call in last nights game against the Nets.
P.S. Blatche desperatly needs time, the guy is like a beast in a cage right now. Not a good look.
Lets go Wiz! Please get a win I feel bad for Jamison guy works so hard he deserves some gratification and so do the fans.
Oh and by the way I am making a video mix if someone wants to post it of the Mavs win plays and some from the Heat with some nice real hip hop in the background.
by Unxpekted on Dec 16, 2009 3:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
lets go zards!
national tv on dollar beer night. this one should be good!
by facekdr on Dec 16, 2009 10:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nice start guys...
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 10:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jamison should be able to take Nocioni on the Offensive end…
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 16, 2009 10:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If Stevenson's past success was based on Arenas' play..
…and Arenas is currently in a “slump,” what since does it make to give Stevenson significant minutes (let alone start the guy)?
by Pryme on Dec 16, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jamison with all 6 points
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 16, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why is Gilbert on Tyreke???
Why play DeShawn if you won’t put him on their best guy?
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe because they’re playing Omri Casspi at 6’9" at SG and 6’10" Donte Greene at SF
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 16, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take my chances with Gil on Greene
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 16, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ha
When I saw him giving never dribble Eddie House a 6 foot cushion I started to think he should guard people who don’t drive well.
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 16, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Zone??
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 10:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow – Tyreke Evans looks HUGE out there as a PG…. I know h’s 6’5" or 6’6" – but he looks like a Linebacker
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 16, 2009 10:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
closest thing to lebron for his position
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 16, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can actually see him stayig in front of guys like Parker and Paul
and smothering them with his size and wingspan.
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 16, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the faster tempo - so far
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 16, 2009 10:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
maybe if Gilbert takes enough free throws
He’ll get into some kind of rhythm.
by Pryme on Dec 16, 2009 10:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think he will
probably just way after everyone drinks themselves to death. I’m starting to think all that shooting before his legs fully healed taught Gilbert some bad(no knee bending) habits.
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 16, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gil looks physically off
Or just not back in rhythm.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 10:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He certainly looks like he’s playing “below the rim”
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 16, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well below.....
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 16, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Thompson
is a nice player…
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 16, 2009 10:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I really hate the way Caron plays
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 16, 2009 10:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Great job Brendan!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 16, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
well we found our guy to push the ball up the court
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 16, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sad that Haywood pushed the ball....
but no Wizard crossed the Half court line for like 2-3 seconds…..
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 16, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is bad basketball
Gilbert shoots a three, everyone stands around, nobody gets back, they get a layup.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not willing to run on Offense
Not willing to run back on Defense….
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 16, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to thank
Caron for already taking multiple jab step bricks and not hustling for rebounds.
by ronoD nagrO on Dec 16, 2009 11:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I really liked Tyreke Evans
back when I was doing Draft prospect reports…
http://www.bulletsforever.com/2009/5/26/888590/draft-prospect-tyreke-evans
Not for the Wizards – because I thought he was too much like Arenas (shoot first PG)…
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 16, 2009 11:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jon Brockman
He’s a BEAST on the boards…. watch this guy…
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 16, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Jackson is right
These guys don’t trust each other.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yay!
they got it close again just so they can go on a 21 to 3 run and blow a 17 point lead!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 16, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agree about Jackson/Trust
But what’s to trust? Every Evans makes a shot Gilbert runs down and does something crazy like he’s trying to prove a point.
by rcwizz on Dec 16, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's not all Gilbert's fault
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
who woke up
gilbert?
Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!
by ledellforlife on Dec 16, 2009 11:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tyreke is going to
eat our lunch tonight.
by ronoD nagrO on Dec 16, 2009 11:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jamison=awesome
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nocioni has no idea how to guard him.
Ridiculous Upside, where developing talent and winning are not mutually exclusive.
by Jon L on Dec 16, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sick play by young
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 16, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Young = awsome-er
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 16, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
spelling fail
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 16, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nocioni
Tried to make an Antawn shot and failed
by rcwizz on Dec 16, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
JVG wins again calling out Antawn
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He's absolutely correct though
this is why we are not a good team.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 16, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JVG calling Jammison out for lazily getting back
and rightfully so. That was terrible.
Ridiculous Upside, where developing talent and winning are not mutually exclusive.
by Jon L on Dec 16, 2009 11:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yup
Wish Flip says something too.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he has
weren’t there mumblings about the players not respecting Flip and tuning him out after his tenure in Detroit?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 16, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you really think that's already happened here?
I also wonder if he was late getting back because he was arguing a call. It wouldn’t be the first time for him.
Ridiculous Upside, where developing talent and winning are not mutually exclusive.
by Jon L on Dec 16, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That would make sense
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What Postive things have we seen from Flips tenure so far
If they are listening to him then he is a pretty crappy coach
by ccrun1800 on Dec 16, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It sure dose seem like the Wiz do there own thing
at least on half there possessions.
by ccrun1800 on Dec 16, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Jamison basically advise Arenas to tune Flip out?
by morethesamewiz on Dec 16, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's be fair here....
I just looked at the replay – Jamison was pushed… he fell down… and then slipped trying to get back up…
Once he got up, he ran hard to get back into the play…
I think if you look at that play again, you’ll see that it’s unfair to say Jamison was “dogging” it ….
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 16, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lookin good.
Not crazy about this frantic Boykins play. Good pass to Young. Were lookin sharp. Everyone looks good except Caron lookin very passive.
Jamison is a beast point blank period.
by Unxpekted on Dec 16, 2009 11:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Nice transition D guys
Unacceptable.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Caron is really
dogging it on D
Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!
by ledellforlife on Dec 16, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he is
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yuck
I’m pretty sure Boykins pulled a Gilbert and tried to get the call rather than trying to make the layup. Didn’t work for him, either.
Ridiculous Upside, where developing talent and winning are not mutually exclusive.
by Jon L on Dec 16, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
JVG is deep.
love how he corrected the “lack of defense” thing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 16, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Can we get Caron's ass off
the court.
by ronoD nagrO on Dec 16, 2009 11:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Remember ne talking about when Boykins is getting + time the score on Wizards side goes – heres the proof and I have seen it in all our losses. I can’t figure out why he doesn’t seem terrible. Maybe the other subs have no chemistry with him.
by Unxpekted on Dec 16, 2009 11:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Defense plleaasse and no more Caron when can we trade him?
I love Arenas don’t care what anyone says . For me he’s our Kobe regardless of how good.
by Unxpekted on Dec 16, 2009 11:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Caron’s contested jumpers are daggers to my heart.
by Fundefined on Dec 16, 2009 11:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He's not
running on defense, not cutting on offense. He’s just standing around jacking shots like he’s at the Y. F this guy.
by ronoD nagrO on Dec 16, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember when his role was 3rd offensive option and 18 ppg?
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 16, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no
the shot jacking has helped me forget
Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!
by ledellforlife on Dec 16, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bad time to ask
But are the Wizards thinking of pulling the team apart?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 16, 2009 11:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wish.
Then I could get excited about the possibility of drafting John Wall and watch as our #2 pick turns into a #5 in the lottery and we trade it for Mike Miller and Randy Foye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 16, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I really am not trying to add to your misery. This is going to be a shootout tonight. If you like offense, this game is for you.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 16, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 16, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He is, yes
Pookey is one of Sactown Royalty’s regulars.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I write my own Kings blog too
But, yeah.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 16, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can you tell me why losing the lottery works out for the Kings and not for the Wizards?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 16, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No Hibachi I can't.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 16, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Confession: I read pookey's stuff. :x
by Craig_ on Dec 16, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're a masochist?
Sorry to hear that Craig.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 16, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You've got to like how your team
hustles. What are your thoughts on when Kmart comes back. Will they move him?
by ronoD nagrO on Dec 16, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope. Not a chance.
Because Speed Racer plays so well off the ball, that’s one of the things he does well. He’s also been really efficient as a 3rd option too. Really, he’s the type of star in this league that will do anything his coach asks to win. I think the stain of last-season really got to him. Besides, Tyreke Evans already is a franchise level player. There is no way Kevin will win that fight.
Also, I do like how they hustle. I like how they frustrate me too. How many times can you say that?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 16, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like how they frustrate me too. How many times can you say that?
I don’t know are you married?
by ronoD nagrO on Dec 16, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
I’m think I’m glad about that, but I’m not sure at this point.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 16, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am a Wizards fan.
The story of my life.
by Craig_ on Dec 16, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand
I’m a Kings fan.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 16, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Double team him! He's right under the hoop!
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not to pile on Butler
but he basically stood there and watch Evans back Arenas down all the way to the basket.
Ridiculous Upside, where developing talent and winning are not mutually exclusive.
by Jon L on Dec 16, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know, I was yelling at my TV
I’m seriously ready to move him for anything. I’ll take Speedy Claxton and Devean George straight up right now.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm angry, but I think moving him might lead to more addition by subtraction
He’s sacrificed nothing really this year, and it bugs me.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but the question is why?
Everything I’ve read either here or elsewhere suggest that he is the consummate professional, he has to know that this in unacceptable
Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!
by ledellforlife on Dec 16, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not being paid might have something to do with it Ledell
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 16, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
has he complained about that?
Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!
by ledellforlife on Dec 16, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's being paid either way
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And Evans is way too big and strong
for Arenas to guard in the Post by himself… he needs help there.
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 16, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Butler is absolutely infuriating right now.
He should be ashamed of himself.
by ronoD nagrO on Dec 16, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm feeling a Wizard win if we can minimize Boykins/Taser play.
by Unxpekted on Dec 16, 2009 11:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Oh and Carons very strange sudden change of play the guy refuses to pass contribute ball movement or assist. At this point i’d love to have Shane Battier over Caron.
by Unxpekted on Dec 16, 2009 11:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Dare we say... Oscar Robertson?
Been watching some old youtube clips of the Big O, that’s who comes to mind when you watch Evans- nothing fancy, just goes where he needs to go, does what he needs to do.
by goober nackulum on Dec 16, 2009 11:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bullet's Forever Award for Worst Month of December?
Nominees: Tiger Woods, Washington Wizards
by morethesamewiz on Dec 16, 2009 11:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hate
this team right now.
Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!
by ledellforlife on Dec 16, 2009 11:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
JVG calling out the wiz for poor effort.
Actually it was about 5 minutes ago but it hasn’t gotten any better.
Meanwhile Jamison off to the locker room to look at the shoulder w/ 2 minutes in the half
by goober nackulum on Dec 16, 2009 11:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No Dsteve or Taser "brick" Mcguire
Awesome Twan could have had a 40 point game now he’s injured. Greeatttt, gotta love the Wizards injury.
Caron is aweful I could play better than him.
by Unxpekted on Dec 16, 2009 11:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
How about Flip be the head coach
and sit the guy.
by ccrun1800 on Dec 16, 2009 11:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That is the 10th time
Buck has said "Butler’s jumper is short.:
Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!
by ledellforlife on Dec 16, 2009 11:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Getting the pass and then just being too lazy to pass out and
instead taking a half hearted contested jumper is not an offensive play Butler.
by ronoD nagrO on Dec 16, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mike Do you have anything to do with the advertising part of SBN or the background stuff?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 16, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No, email me your Q
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
It’s just the background like you saw with the Sprint background. It seems to me iike my browser is slowing, but I’ve having been Firefox issue’s lately too.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 16, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Crap, Antawn injured
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If the rumor about the Warriors is true
How about Butler for Andris Biedrins and Anthony Morrow?
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by Jon L on Dec 16, 2009 11:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
In a heartbeat.
In fact, I’d do that deal so quickly …….. just you finish this.
by Craig_ on Dec 16, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Problem is, Golden State isn't that stupid
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know and I really wish they were.
Alas, it’s just a pipe dream.
by Craig_ on Dec 16, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Doubt they go for that
Butler’s not worth that much.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Butler is Corey Maggette to me now.
Completely unwatchable.
by Craig_ on Dec 16, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why would we do it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 16, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where does Biedrins fit in with Haywood?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 16, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FA insurance, twin tower, etc
or more likely it leads to another trade
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 16, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It would signal the end of Haywood probably
Trade him or just let him expire at the end of the year,
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We can get some good pieces for Haywood as long as he resigns.
The hot stove possibilities are endless.
by Craig_ on Dec 16, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Better to trade him at the Trade Deadline
to a Playoff bound team like Houston or Dallas…. They both need a defensive minded Center.
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by Rook6980 on Dec 16, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What do you feel we could get in that trade?
I feel like we could receive something pretty good. Houston has some quality pieces we could use.
by Craig_ on Dec 16, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would carry Butler to Cali on my back
if they were willing to do that trade.
by ronoD nagrO on Dec 16, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Biedrins provides either a replacement for Haywood next season (if they really want to blow the team up), or at least a more reliable backup if they keep him (at an incredibly reasonable price). Morrow’s contract isn’t much, but it expires after this season.
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by Jon L on Dec 16, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Biedrins may be better
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Plus Morrow is an
absolute sharpshooter.
by ronoD nagrO on Dec 16, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude is on my fantasy squad
He goes ice cold for games on in. Check his game log its either 30 or 5.
by ccrun1800 on Dec 16, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Morrow's really good, yeah
I’d trade Caron for Morrow straight up if I could, considering age, contract etc
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel he could really thrive in an environment like Flips...
not saying he’s not thriving now.
by Craig_ on Dec 16, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's immediately our best SG
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Nick's shot was as automatic as Morrow's can be...
Nick would trump Morrow completely, but as of now, I totally agree. Morrow would be fantastic.
by Craig_ on Dec 16, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
morrow's great
came into the league strictly as a 3pt shooter but he’s been getting better and better and taking it to the hole
by Dreezy on Dec 17, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about better
He may be a better Offensive player… and probably is a slightly better rebounder… but Haywood is the better all around Defensive player.
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 16, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's tough
I wonder how good Biedrins would be if he went to a half-court team.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and I wonder how much better Haywood
would be on a better Defensive team (like Houston?)
Would he be All-Defensive first team?
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 16, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He could be worse
If only because he looks so great on this team because nobody else defends.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's blow up and just go straight GS.
lol. I kid.
by Craig_ on Dec 16, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Same here
The only way I think it would work is if Nelson decides he realllllly has no use for Biedrins (which might actually happen, come to think of it).
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by Jon L on Dec 16, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JVG saying Gil looks like he's got more of a burst than he has...
… just still trying to get in rhythm on the finish.
I agree with him- he looks a little quicker than in the Boston game (in which everyone else thought he was quicker than he had been recently)
Baby steps…
by goober nackulum on Dec 16, 2009 11:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Stevenson has the lowest +/- ( -7 )
yet he has the most minutes outside the big three
by ccrun1800 on Dec 16, 2009 11:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Could it be more obvious to anyone other than Flip and the coaches
that Deshawn and Boykins don’t merit rotation minutes in the NBA. Boykins is a mini-Iverson in the way that when he is on the court nobody else on the team knows what to do
by morethesamewiz on Dec 16, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can I go on record as the first to give up on Flip
by ccrun1800 on Dec 16, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what if you never got up on him in the first place
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 16, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well then I guess I am joining your club
by ccrun1800 on Dec 16, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
welcome to the club
BayArea is the president
Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!
by ledellforlife on Dec 16, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't hate on him that bad just think he's like slightly better than EJ
not great not horrible.
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 16, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He just seems to be a very poor motivator
That detroit team pretty much coached itself
by ccrun1800 on Dec 16, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's a good communicator and a good offensive coach
he just doesn’t have good pieces to work with and isn’t a guy who can make something out of nothing.
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 16, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
welcome
I’d offer you a drink but everything is luke warm
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 16, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And Bitter
Flip can go can we at least be entertaining and lose. I am so done with the half court for this team
by ccrun1800 on Dec 16, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Caron Sucks
That is all. Put Taser in for Caron, keep Nick Young in for Stevenson, Blatche in for Jamison and lets ball. Oh, let’s get McGee some minutes. If they wanna run, we have the horses.
by zeke5123 on Dec 16, 2009 11:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Here is a good trade for butler
Slam said butler has been talked about in trade talks with the warriors for anthony randolph
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2009/12/welcome-to-the-trade-block-anthony-Randolph has great potential, and will help us when we’re in the rebuilding stage, and it will also help by just being addition by subtraction. What do you guys think?
by FNFWizardsFan on Dec 16, 2009 11:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah Randolph is the real deal but all week they have been reporting he's on the block out here
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 16, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know I was surprised when i saw it also
But Nellie is crazy. and i don’t know about you guys, but if its true i would do it in a heartbeat
by FNFWizardsFan on Dec 16, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Randolph's worth more than that
I think the trade that makes the most sense, honestly, is something like Morrow, Turiaf and Speedy Claxton’s expiring contract for Butler. Not sure why GS wants Butler, but who knows.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Stephen Jackson was worth more than Radmanovic and Raja Bell
by morethesamewiz on Dec 16, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but Jackson had a toxic contract and a crappy attitude
Randolph’s a 21-year old young forward. Those guys are so valuable in this league.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But according to the link Nellie has problems with him
I have no idea why he would do it, but i wouldn’t put it past nellie.
by FNFWizardsFan on Dec 16, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nellie isn't the GM
I think that’s all tough talk without much to back it up, to be honest. I’m not even sure I want Randolph anyway – Blatche is better.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nelson and the front office are pretty close, though.
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by Jon L on Dec 16, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True
but can’t Randolph play SF?
by FNFWizardsFan on Dec 16, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah it only makes sense if we trade off Jamison later
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 16, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that can happen if Grunfeld is given the green light.
I’m sure he can pull it off and get us some pieces.
by Craig_ on Dec 16, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Javale and Randolph
would be so much fun to watch, even if we lost 60 games a year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 16, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sign me up to watch that team for 82 games please.
by Craig_ on Dec 16, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
also tank the season and add John Wall woww!!!
by eltacoman on Dec 16, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike would definitely have to revise his most entertaining teams to watch list
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 16, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't get my hopes up dude...
I’m still traumatized from that Butler + 5 for Amare non-trade
by goober nackulum on Dec 16, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It the 3rd quarter
time to roll over and play dead
Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!
by ledellforlife on Dec 16, 2009 11:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh goody!
We might see another Boykins Stevenson McGuire (Blatche for Jamison) Haywood lineup
by morethesamewiz on Dec 16, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good luck in the 2nd half yall.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 16, 2009 11:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
A maybe more reasonable suggestion
to amuse myself at halftime.
Butler + Taser to Philly for Kapono, Brezec and Jason Smith
Washington gets: a decent backup center plus a guy who can shoot off of Saunders’s screens all day long.
EJ gets: two players he likes and knows, plus someone to give Elton Brand’s minutes to for no reason.
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by Jon L on Dec 16, 2009 11:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I should probably make a fanpost for these, or something
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by Jon L on Dec 16, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's the Pu Pu platter
compared to the Golden State options.
by ronoD nagrO on Dec 16, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a fan of giving up Taser. I know he doesn't really get much time, but the dude can ball.
Defensively that is.
by Craig_ on Dec 16, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not enough value IMO
Kapono’s contract sucks.
If we do a trade with Philly, I’d try to get Iguodala.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It also expires after this year.
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by Jon L on Dec 16, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True
But he’s so much worse than Caron.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also true.
I guess I find myself increasingly falling into the “maybe they should start over next year” camp.
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by Jon L on Dec 16, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we were down with taking on a contract
Mike James for Ramon Sessions?
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 16, 2009 11:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I would trade for Sessions, but I figure Minn wants more than an expiring back for him
Butler and Critt for Sessions, Corey Brewer/Ryan Gomes and Brian Cardinal
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Canis Hoopis
hates Brewer worse than they hated Foye
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by ledellforlife on Dec 17, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sessions would be very
interesting. Gomes can play as well. I would like that trade.
by ronoD nagrO on Dec 16, 2009 11:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure why they'd do that, but maybe they'd want a vet to teach the kids
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so down on CB right now
it’s hard to believe we could get much of anything for him. I would love to hear some legit trade talk out there, so we know what we could get.
by ronoD nagrO on Dec 16, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jamison's injury update
not exactly making me feel optimistic.
by Pryme on Dec 16, 2009 11:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mike Jones said he will return (on Twitter)
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by Jon L on Dec 16, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you on Twitter Jon?
I enjoy your D-League stuff.
by Craig_ on Dec 16, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am
the Twitter for the site (shared with the other writers) is @RUBasketball
my own personal account, in which I talk about basketball and non-basketball alike, is @pineoaks (don’t ask)
and thanks.
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by Jon L on Dec 17, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Following...
Great! I’m following as @mobilracing.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Since we cant trade our 1st round pick
When do we start talking about tanking?
by ccrun1800 on Dec 16, 2009 11:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That worked so well last year...
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 16, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
last year and to a lesser extent this year I thought we would actually get better by playing the young guys
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 16, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Play the young guys = better for future seasons = high draft pick = John Wall.
by ccrun1800 on Dec 16, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If SAC shot 70% in the 1st quarter
why is Stevenson playing so much?
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by ledellforlife on Dec 17, 2009 12:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
We can't even blame it on EJ anymore.
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by Jon L on Dec 17, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but philly can,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 17, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and they have
did you see that Depressedfan thing?
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by Jon L on Dec 17, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It makes no sense.
Please come back Miller!!
by ronoD nagrO on Dec 17, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm loving the way
that SAC passes the ball
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by ledellforlife on Dec 17, 2009 12:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Me too
I really like them. Westphal’s doing a great job there.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 17, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's amazing when the whole team isn't
trying to get “theirs”.
by ronoD nagrO on Dec 17, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
See, this is what's so weird about this team
Now, they’re in a really good rhythm, sharing the ball, and I don’t know how long it will last.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 17, 2009 12:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
then Caron jacks one with a guy in his face and they don't get back
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by ledellforlife on Dec 17, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Refs continue to swallow their whistles for Gil
by ronoD nagrO on Dec 17, 2009 12:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
im wishing that Ted finds a way to trade the big 3 for John Wall dude is the next Wade
by eltacoman on Dec 17, 2009 12:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Can we trade
Caron for some new shoulders?
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by ledellforlife on Dec 17, 2009 12:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
What I don't understand about the Wizard's defense on Tyreke Evans
They keep playing him tight…. He’s not a very good shooter from the outside…
Why don’t they play off him – take away the drive, and dare him to shoot…?
Don’t they have scouting reports?
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 17, 2009 12:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Gil was doing that earlier, but I haven't seen DeShawn play off anybody
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Dec 17, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they are probably as good
as our medical staff
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by ledellforlife on Dec 17, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All they have to do is look at that busted shooting stroke
to know he can’t be that consistent from outside, ohh well. I guess that didn’t make it on the Ipod
by ronoD nagrO on Dec 17, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I never thought
that Haywood would be my favorite Wizard
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by ledellforlife on Dec 17, 2009 12:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Haywood is the only guy I see running.
by Fundefined on Dec 17, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what’s better for Wiz games, espn or comcast..
"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh
by purpleonblack86 on Dec 17, 2009 12:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
have to go with Buck and Phil
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by ledellforlife on Dec 17, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
like both their announcing teams actually
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 17, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea the visual’s brighter but i can’t watch with out Buck and Phil’s bias..its grown on me
"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh
by purpleonblack86 on Dec 17, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN just so I don’t have to see those terrible Wizards commercials.
by Fundefined on Dec 17, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man
A terrific play by Arenas and Butler missed an open dunk. Oh man.
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by Jon L on Dec 17, 2009 12:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
hey a 4 pt
play
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by ledellforlife on Dec 17, 2009 12:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else on espn 360?
what happened?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 17, 2009 12:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's been dark for almost 5 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 17, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess espn wants to spare me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 17, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
F Butler
this team is cooked
Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!
by ledellforlife on Dec 17, 2009 12:26 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I thought Butler was a set up shooter why is forcing it?
"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh
by purpleonblack86 on Dec 17, 2009 12:26 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Can we play defense without fouling? It's almost impossible for us.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 12:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
wow, this is now getting ugly
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by ledellforlife on Dec 17, 2009 12:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Clearly hit the Ron. I’m Palestinian duno how much of that Isreali player I can see.
Wizards go down in a Boykins flame!!
Boykins is leaving soon hopefully?
by Unxpekted on Dec 17, 2009 12:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Why do you have to bring that into basketball?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 17, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's almost expected from him at this point.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh is this the same one that thought Turkoglu was jewish?
ha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 17, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yip
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by ledellforlife on Dec 17, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
between that
and the Toronto game, this is getting out of hand
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by ledellforlife on Dec 17, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Boykins is not our problem at the moment.
Bad decision-making is our problem. Bad defense is our problem.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
bad coaching
players don’t like each other…
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by ledellforlife on Dec 17, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think it came before the losing
this is a team that is happy to be getting a paycheck
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by ledellforlife on Dec 17, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JVG just did Earl Boykins so dirty
“c’mon, he only has to move his arms like two inches”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 17, 2009 12:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
wow, Phil is sounding angry
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by ledellforlife on Dec 17, 2009 12:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
5 White guys at once
Sacramento had 5 white guys on the floor at the same time for an extended period near the of the 3rd quarter….and grew the lead.
by Unseld'ed on Dec 17, 2009 12:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
You sound like someone who should have watched outside the lines today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 17, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what does that
have to do with anything?
what is with this board?
Sacramento is the better TEAM. PERIOD.
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by ledellforlife on Dec 17, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's over we just not gonna do it with taser and boykins
by Unxpekted on Dec 17, 2009 12:36 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
why the f*ck is Gil not in?
Im so confused and pissed, why is this lineup in when we are gettin killed?
by FNFWizardsFan on Dec 17, 2009 12:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow great ball movement Boykins!!!!!
by Unxpekted on Dec 17, 2009 12:37 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Lineup: Arenas, Young, Taser, Jamison, Haywood
Please. ASAP.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 12:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
you hear that Blatche?.., Mark Jackson just basically said that Oberto deserves your minutes
"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh
by purpleonblack86 on Dec 17, 2009 12:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
even if that play was really sad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Dec 17, 2009 12:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is ugly... Oberto three fouls in two minutes. Ugh.
Who gives that guy minutes when he does that?
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 12:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Decision making comes from rule #1 PG setting up plays
Boykins is the problem no chemistry with him.
When 6 back to back games see negative scoring when Boykins is in the game it’s clear.
Hibachi please keep your comments to yourself.
by Unxpekted on Dec 17, 2009 12:41 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
So we make a run here and lose in the final minute? Sounds good to me!
by Fundefined on Dec 17, 2009 12:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dom McGuire
reads the scouting reports – dared Tyreke Evans to shoot a jumper… took away the drive…
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 17, 2009 12:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bad call there – should have been an Offensive foul for using the off arm…
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 17, 2009 12:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
well that does it
night fellas. see you at the next slaughter.
Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!
by ledellforlife on Dec 17, 2009 12:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I was really looking forward to them coming out here but I don't know if I even wanna go on Friday
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 17, 2009 12:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Definitely you should still go.
Think of what we could give GS for Anthony Randolf. haha.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WAIN is tearing apart the officiating tonight. Def bad calls, refs love gift wrapping home games but not for us. Indiania wink wink
by Unxpekted on Dec 17, 2009 12:48 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
We’d still win if we could just make open shots, but the refs sure did F us in the A tonight. That 24 second violation was absurd.
by tarheels28 on Dec 17, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Gil hasnt passed in four straghit possesions
by ccrun1800 on Dec 17, 2009 12:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I approve of his selfishness.
It seems as if he’s starting to say… I EFFING WANT THE BALL NOW. I want that in my star.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Starting to agree
Nice drive to the basket arenas
by DynaMix on Dec 17, 2009 12:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
does a brick shot
for an offensive rebound count as a pass?
by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 17, 2009 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike is a bit quiet lately.
Getting ready writing that loss column early haha.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 12:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I like that Flip has put Taser on Evans
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by Rook6980 on Dec 17, 2009 12:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dude Butler telegraphs his shot so bad
by ccrun1800 on Dec 17, 2009 12:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Butler!
What is wrong with him?
by DynaMix on Dec 17, 2009 12:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Wow
They gave a no-call to a rookie over Caron Butler. That’s how bad it’s gotten.
Ridiculous Upside, where developing talent and winning are not mutually exclusive.
by Jon L on Dec 17, 2009 12:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
wtf
losing to the kings is as unacceptable as losing to the clippers… is what I would have said if we had beaten LAC…
Caron is the worst possible player for Flip’s offense, throws everybody’s rhythm with his isos and contested jumpers, and can somebody on the wizards either A. Get Back or B. Grab a rebound.
I know people were asking for a trade in the beginning of the year, but I stood by Tough Juice, I’m starting to have doubts on him… mainly because
A. He is very predictable
Iso Moves:
- Standing Cross Over (Switching ball back and forth from left to right) then pull up J
- Through the legs a few times then pull up J
- Pump Fake then J, the problem is no one honors his pump fake because they know that is his first move.
And he is not an effective catch and shoot player (Neither is Nick Young for that matter, even though he supposedly worked on this part of his game over the summer)
Not only that he loves to drive into traffic so the opposing coaches throw some kind of mini zone at him whenever he does an Isolation, and usually it results in a offensive foul.
B. He blows more than half of his big time one hand dunks (I mean seriously…)
C. Defense please? But then again he is better than Gil
by CellBlock4 on Dec 17, 2009 12:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Arenas is finally realizing he’s the star of the team
by Fundefined on Dec 17, 2009 1:01 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
what's with the scoreboard?
They only counted one of the free throws that Areanas made (at 99). Did I miss something?
by artreddin on Dec 17, 2009 1:01 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
At least it was a corner 3
Ridiculous Upside, where developing talent and winning are not mutually exclusive.
by Jon L on Dec 17, 2009 1:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What did I say about a come back?
But they couldn’t secure a defensive rebound….
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 17, 2009 1:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
what is flip thinking?
how many wide open looks and offensive rebounds can we give up?
by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 17, 2009 1:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
its not flip
its the players right now… i mean seriously 2 second chance rebounds???
Gilbert should have just tried to finish the game himself
by CellBlock4 on Dec 17, 2009 1:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
again
that’s because they’re playing zone
by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 17, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
true
but still they are closer to the basket on the first rebound which I believe the players just let go by them, the second one sailed over another persons head, and they played zone just to stop the drive from Evans, though I am just coming back to the game so this was the first play back I saw.
by CellBlock4 on Dec 17, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh good, Butler didn't miss that dunk
I’m only partially kidding.
Ridiculous Upside, where developing talent and winning are not mutually exclusive.
by Jon L on Dec 17, 2009 1:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
we're actually catching a lot of breaks here
by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 17, 2009 1:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Go for the win?
What do you guys think? Go for a 3-pointer to win it?
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 17, 2009 1:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
On the road...
Absolutely. Gil sinks the the layup with an and 1.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow Arenas Lola amazing and we decide to give it to Jamison. I wanna see the Lakers give it to Odom at the end of a game when pigs fly to justify not givin it to Arenas. Def like Flip settin the starters for the end.
PLEASE GIVE TO ARENAS PLLLEEEAASEE
by Unxpekted on Dec 17, 2009 1:05 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
yea might as well
"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh
by purpleonblack86 on Dec 17, 2009 1:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Overtime we lose with this horrendous D
Go for the three
by ccrun1800 on Dec 17, 2009 1:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
ONE shot and possession….
NOW go for a 2 point shot to win.
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 17, 2009 1:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
There you go
Big come-back….
Lose it on the last play of the game.
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 17, 2009 1:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
it's a thin line
our bench is giving us NADA
by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 17, 2009 1:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I really think that is down to Flips
random substitutions game after game
by ccrun1800 on Dec 17, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
who's he gonna put in?
who is producing?
by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 17, 2009 1:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Taser played a better game than Stevenson.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 1:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+/- agrees
+8 for Taser, -3 for Stevenson.
Ridiculous Upside, where developing talent and winning are not mutually exclusive.
by Jon L on Dec 17, 2009 1:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's amazing how Flip seems to disregard this.
Do we even know if they look at these stats?
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 1:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thats pathetic. initiate project blow it up
by ryantz on Dec 17, 2009 1:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Get Nick Young, Jamison, Butler and Blatche in the game….
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Dec 17, 2009 1:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
not news..but Gil is not the same sigh
"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh
by purpleonblack86 on Dec 17, 2009 1:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
1. Need mire time on clock clearly more than eat they put even espn guy argued it
2. Not mad at Arenas shiznit happens he will learn
3. Let’s get a three ball
by Unxpekted on Dec 17, 2009 1:10 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
nice strip
the wiz honestly don’t deserve to win this game
by CellBlock4 on Dec 17, 2009 1:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh well sometimes rain is just as beautiful as sun when your standin on the darkside
by Unxpekted on Dec 17, 2009 1:12 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
All I have to say is Wow.
While I’m not convinced the Kings are a 500 team yet, I’m thrilled they beat a team struggling at home.
Much props to the Wiz tonight.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 17, 2009 1:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
And to you sir and your Kings.
Once I’m over this I might give your team another look on LP.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 1:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They play hard
If you like effort, not necessarily execution, but effort, they’ll give that to you.
Not that this matters, but yall are a great group of fans. BF never disappoints.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 17, 2009 1:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just not that Nocioni guy haha.
His Bulls stint really soured me to him. Casspi on the other hand… baller. Evans… baller.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 1:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Understood on all counts.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 17, 2009 1:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well... it's good to know that I didn't waste this beer.
Sorrows.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 1:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
go back to run and gun with gil
give it a shot, throw something new in there flip, all your fancy shit is not working
by CellBlock4 on Dec 17, 2009 1:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
gotta admit..pretty impressed with Tyreke Evans
"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh
by purpleonblack86 on Dec 17, 2009 1:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sigh..
I didn’t mind that last play too much. Butler at least looked decisive…
by DynaMix on Dec 17, 2009 1:15 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
That bad call on the 24 second shot clock.....
came back to haunt us. Refs CANNOT miss obvious calls like that, and that would’ve been an easy two points that make the end of the game a WHOLE lot different. That was an OBVIOUS blown call!!!
by SkinsWizStangs on Dec 17, 2009 1:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, as a Kings fan..
I can totally sympathize with blown calls.
by avishai on Dec 17, 2009 1:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Major props to you guys.
Nice to see you play hard, and nice to see Agent zero playing well again.
by avishai on Dec 17, 2009 1:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
wiz had to
was on espn, but as usual a little bit short
by CellBlock4 on Dec 17, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great game tonight.
I’m really happy that Agent Zero started stepping up. Great to see Westphal really giving his young guys minutes and teaching them how to play. Evans is going to be great for you guys.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Man just so happy to see Arenas play so well. Lineus looked good. We will crush teams like this when Millers back. Plus bad officiating. We will have great wins guys be positive!
by Unxpekted on Dec 17, 2009 1:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Anybody see kobe's game winner?
Must be so nice to have a player you know you can give it to at the end of the game! I remember when we had that…
by DynaMix on Dec 17, 2009 1:21 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
It'll take some time.
But Gil’s on the right track. Tonight proved he’s moving in the right direction even if he did give the ball up at the end. I’ll be patient. It’s just tough.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
michael jordan
comeback #?
run and gun cause the ball don't lie
by CellBlock4 on Dec 17, 2009 1:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
kings are so fun to watch
we played a fairly good game
it’s sad taht we can’t get calls against the kings though (as much as i love them)
by Dreezy on Dec 17, 2009 1:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I thought some of the calls the Wiz got were generous
But that’s me. (And my Kings colored glasses.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 17, 2009 1:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I didn't see anything egregious on either side to be truthful
But that’s me.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 17, 2009 1:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you not see the ball hit the rim
on that 24 second violation. That’s one of the worst calls this year, narrowly beating out the “0.5 call” against Indiana.
by SkinsWizStangs on Dec 17, 2009 1:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did that really decide the game?
But, I thought it did hit the rim.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 17, 2009 1:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wizards colored glasses...
Didn’t see anything too crazy either… just thought they missed a lot of initial calls and called them on the second time around…
Haywood’s put back for instance towards the end.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 1:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My stream was not working that well
So you could be right. I always settle for the players deciding the game, and I feel that happened. For better or worse (depending on your perspective)/.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 17, 2009 1:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. They weren't crazy as like the Indiana game for us (kill myself now)...
So I thought it evened out very nicely. Good game to watch. Refs didn’t take over and the game flowed alright for the most part. I’d watch it again and that’s saying something for me.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 1:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would too
But I can’t.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 17, 2009 1:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The officiating was HORRIBLE all the way around.
That 24 second clock missed call was inexcusable. The Evans “hold” at the end was Dunlevy-esque. There were a number of just generic bad calls on both sides throughout the night.
I’m not saying it caused the loss or not. But the officiating in the NBA just has to get better somehow. I believe it will (and has) hurt the game.
by MR on Dec 17, 2009 6:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+/- for the team tonight...
Taser +8
Arenas +4
Butler +3
Haywood +1
Jamison -2
Stevenson -3
Foye -3
Young -4
Blatche -8
Boykins -11 Yikes.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 1:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Makes you wonder about how effective the +/- stat is eh?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 17, 2009 1:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no it's effective
your bench won the game
by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 17, 2009 1:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
or alternatively
our bench lost it
by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 17, 2009 1:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Very true. Especially with Hawes +9 and Rodriguez +12.
Taser was the only guy who produced and it was purely on defense guarding Evans. That’s probably why Evans had a lower +/-.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 1:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Kings depths takes a lot of fanbases & opponents by surprise
I wonder how long that will continue.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 17, 2009 1:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't Udrih and Hawes starting last year?
There’s something to be said about pride and taking a beating both teams took last year. They sure didn’t take me by surprise. I guess our defenders decided to take a little bit of a break while they were in there.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 1:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Udrih started all last year
And Hawes started off & on until Brad Miller was traded and then started the remaining part of the year.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 17, 2009 1:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Single game-wise it's a little less reliable than a season-long adjusted +/-
But Evans also on the court when the Wizards came back from being 10 down or whatever they were.
Ridiculous Upside, where developing talent and winning are not mutually exclusive.
by Jon L on Dec 17, 2009 1:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know how the +/- stat works
I meant that sarcastically. But that’s a good explanation in reality.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
by pookeyguru on Dec 17, 2009 1:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Boykins
Its been like that for him, for the most part, since he’s been here. Particularly over this 6 game stretch. Flip keeps trying to make something work that isn’t. We need a backup PG!!
by SkinsWizStangs on Dec 17, 2009 1:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah duno wats up with the officiating this year. Seems like refs are giving away home games unless it’s us. Even ESPN kept sayin bad calls for wiz if we had the calls we maybe won. arenas def had his burst back!!!! And Jamison isn’t hurt!!!
by Unxpekted on Dec 17, 2009 1:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I told you!!!!!!! Kick Boykins off our team plz. I’m tellin u are losing problem is him
by Unxpekted on Dec 17, 2009 1:39 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Way to wrap a complex problem up so nicely.
It’s not a Boykins problem. It’s much deeper than that.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 1:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Could you chill out with the exclaimation points?
just sayin’.
by Alpha_Snail on Dec 17, 2009 1:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At least we're winning in something.
Futility.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 1:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wizards tie an NBA record with this loss
Six consecutive losses by four points or fewer, according to ESPN. Whee.
Ridiculous Upside, where developing talent and winning are not mutually exclusive.
by Jon L on Dec 17, 2009 1:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
At least we're winning in something.
Futility.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 1:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm out for the night.
Good game Kings and nice try Wizards. See you guys on Friday.
by Craig_ on Dec 17, 2009 1:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not really. Boykins is hurting us. Period.
by Unxpekted on Dec 17, 2009 2:45 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
This shouldn't have been the difference, but ...
That shot clock violation ripped my heart out as fan. I’ve been fairly collected during this 6 game melt down, but I was LIVID after that call. I really couldn’t believe it.
…. and I still can’t. Those three refs should be suspended for the rest of the season.
by Manimal Smith on Dec 17, 2009 4:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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