Washington Wizards vs. Los Angeles Clippers: Regular Season Game 22 Open Thread
by Mike Prada on Dec 14, 2009 4:53 PM EST
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PrintWashington Wizards at Los Angeles Clippers, Dec 14, 2009 10:30 PM EST
The Essentials:
Wizards (7-14) vs. Clippers (9-13)
10:30 p.m.
Staples Center
TV: CSN
Radio: 106.7 The Fan
Notable Clippers numbers this season
25th in expected winning percentage (.370)
18th in pace (92.1 possessions per game)
25th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (102.2)
T14th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (106.2)
Pre-game links
Clips Nation, SB Nation's Clippers Blog
Clipperblog
Clips Nation's game preview
GameDay Los Angeles (reporting that Javaris Crittenton is practicing)
| Tonight's Projected Starters | ||
|---|---|---|
| Wizards | vs. | Clippers |
| Gilbert Arenas |
PG | Baron Davis |
| DeShawn Stevenson/Nick Young |
SG | Eric Gordon |
| Caron Butler |
SF | Al Thornton |
| Antawn Jamison |
PF | Marcus Camby |
| Brendan Haywood |
C | Chris Kaman |
(All written out, so this is going to be quick).
The Clippers are basically Wizards-east. Even without Blake Griffin, they have a ton of talent, but never seem to get things done. In one of my all-time favorite lines in NBA blogosphere history, here's ClipperBlog after the Clippers' blowout home loss to San Antonio last night.
It would be far more instructive if the Clippers could produce some recurring basketball patterns to their losses and stick with them.
Classic Kevin Arnovitz. But really, it kind of sounds like the Wizards, doesn't it? The Clippers desperately need a new coach - having Mike Dunleavy call a ton of set plays just isn't working for this bunch. They need to get out in transition and never do. Imagine if Scott Brooks coached this team instead of Mike Dunleavy? How much better would they be?
Regardless, this is a weird situation for both teams. This is a double-home back-to-back for the Clippers, as well as a getaway game for them (they're about to embark on a road trip), while the Wizards are just starting their West coast swing. This seems like a winnable game, but nothing is totally winnable with this bunch, as we all know.
I'm probably going to watch this on tape-delay tomorrow, but for all others, here's your open thread.
GO WIZARDS!
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Looking forward to this one
Even though it goes off 3:30am UK time, Should be a good
chance to bounce back against a team with similar troubles,
Hoping Gil puts another big game in and would prefer Young
over DeShawn.
Props to you
for staying up that late to watch this dysfunctional collection of people. Sadly since I am at work I am stuck the NFL game until its over.
Don’t we have a terrible record when playing at the Clippers?
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 14, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully you will catch the good half
I honestly dont know how we are leading, Hopefully Gil will come
good after a decent finish to the half, Haywood looks a beast tonight.
I'll be there
Not sure how many wiz fans will be at Staples tonight. I came out for the Skins-Raiders game yesterday and flew into LA just for this one. Haven’t seen a Wiz road game in awhile (since C-Webb was still on the squad, yikes). Should be fun.
by TSGTheSportsGamer on Dec 14, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions
I never understood that suspension
The only jokes are about the fact that no Iranian has ever played in the NBA and that it is interesting to have a talented basketball player come from a country where basketball is not popular. And the joke that Haddadi’s face and hair are reminiscent of Borat.
There is no ethnic or racial slur anywhere. I’m usually PC to the extreme, but that was over the top and unwarranted.
i just hope that
GIl has the ball in his hands at the end of the game so he can get that swagger back!
by facekdr on Dec 14, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Good God
This is a hideous display by both teams so far.
So maybe I will be glad I won't be watching until the second half?
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 14, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
put it this way
if our guys had their act together, this would be a rout. As it is, we’re only up by 6.
I realy like Young's offensive game
He just looks like a guy you could use in any offense.
I wanna see Stevenson guard Baron Davis
It’ll be like attending a ZZ Top concert.
Gil needs to attack the pick and roll more aggressively.
Going east west quickly off that screen he could probably beat Kaman who is only barley hedging on the screen.
gil cannot guard ANYONE
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Dec 14, 2009 11:04 PM EST reply actions
i think flip over-estimated the professionalism on this team
when he took the job. now, he’s struggling to figure them out
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Dec 14, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
i dont think
flip cared where he coached as long as he was coaching
didn’t avery johnson turn down the wiz?
by Freedom Hurley on Dec 14, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
The only difference in this game
Is that Jamison has made 3-4 shots nobody else in the league would take. There are only 1-2 players playing serious defense at any point in the game, and the offenses still look awful.
Oh McGuire
I thought you practiced shooting last summer?
Yeah, that was ridic
he had young open on the wing
by SidVicious25 on Dec 14, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
True
But Young was standing there on his heels with his hands hanging loosely at his sides like he wanted no part of the play. They just aren’t at all focused tonight.
He thinks he's Pierce
so instead of just catching and shooting, he feels that he has to make the Big Time All Star move.
tunnel vision + indecision
that’s what it looks like to me
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Dec 14, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
The offense has stagnated
and it started with the last group. Its one pass in the system and everyone stands around.
by forthepeople on Dec 14, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
whoa -
LA broadcast mentioned blake griffin’s injury is a stress fracture of the patella. that’s more disturbing than i thought.
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Dec 14, 2009 11:19 PM EST reply actions
Blatche!
Someone paying attention and working hard! Come on wiz — catch the fever.
Butler finally catches and shoots
and what do you know, it goes in.
Maybe I dont know enough about basketball
but if Oberto is such a smart player, why does it seem like he pick up fouls faster then anyone else? Is there a good reason that I’m just not seeing?
Current popular definition of a smart player in NBA
Anyone who doesn’t take a lot of shots or get a lot of rebounds.
by steadyhand on Dec 14, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
speechless
this team looks totally lifeless. i know it’s mid-december, it’s the clippers. but come on. forget being a fan, i’m pissed as a consumer, paying for a shitty product.
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Dec 14, 2009 11:25 PM EST reply actions
butler
Just travelled, was in the lane for 3 seconds, and then threw the ball away all on the same play.
Whenever Twan catches he shoots
Every time Caron catches he fakes or puts it on the floor
Both need to find a better medium.
Arenas got caught up in the game here
Didn’t have time to second guess himself.
They look mad all of a sudden…like they want to win or something.
You said it
Jamison has been the offense, and Haywood has been all over the boards.
if it wasn't for haywood
we would be worst than the nets…………….ok not that bad
by Freedom Hurley on Dec 14, 2009 11:39 PM EST reply actions
Unbelievable that we have a 5 point halftime lead
We held the opponents to 39 points in the half. Must be playing some stifling defense. Or maybe the Clips are pretty bad.
The Wiz should save money...
….and play without any coaches. They wouldn’t be any more disorganized without a coaching staff, so why waste money. At least McGee would get a chance to play.
Flip needs a stiff dose of truth medicine.
quick question
is caron the biggest problem or the only one we can trade?
by Freedom Hurley on Dec 14, 2009 11:45 PM EST reply actions
Maybe both
I think he can snap out of it though.
by Manimal Smith on Dec 14, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
Boykins
Is anyone else really tired to see him continue to dribble the air out of the ball?
Its terrible offense and it only works when Boykins himself is hitting jump shots. He isn’t a good shooter, and he only is willing to pass after dribbling for 20 seconds so here’s to a quick recovery for Javaris (who at least plays better D and is unselfish even if he is a TO machine).
Not this game
Seems like our most consistent offensive weapon is throwing up bricks and hoping that it leads to a frontcourt layup
by Manimal Smith on Dec 14, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully Caron will come out
With his ears stinging and come alive, I predict he gets 15 plus
in the second half.
it seems like
the wiz have no strategy they just come out and play the same way every game
by Freedom Hurley on Dec 14, 2009 11:54 PM EST reply actions
That's exactly how gil should take threes
In rhythm, off the dribble. He is so much more accurate that way – not a catch and shoot player.
as good as jamison is
i cant name five teams that would start him
by Freedom Hurley on Dec 15, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions
I think its harder to name 5 teams that wouldn't start him...
bad defense or not.
by Manimal Smith on Dec 15, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Wow, Butler with a high IQ play
left his man to double with 1 second on the shot clock
This is a completely different team
Playing tough D out there this half. Even executing a little better on offense.
..... and then he takes a jumper with no rebounders down court
Knew he was playing too intelligently for it to last
Flip should bottle his halftime speech
It must have been a good one.
by steadyhand on Dec 15, 2009 12:07 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Dang Haywood
It’s a pick and ROLL. You can’t just stand there and let your guy double the ball handler.
Flip, let Foye play point
I can’t watch another Boykins dribbiling show
Ahh!
Stevenson and McGuire in the game together…this is very bad.
Lineup
Boykins
Stevenson
McGuire
Jamison
Haywood
Just give the ball the Jamison, damn it.
Why are we running high posts for Deshawn?
This is a nightmare offensive lineup
for god's sake
i would think an experienced coach would be able to understand what would happen with this lineup
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Dec 15, 2009 12:17 AM EST reply actions
Isn't this why we have Nick Young?
Someone send Flip a latte
this is why plus/minus ratings are bull
this lineup will make antawns rating go way down but it’s not his fault at all. look at which wizards are in and look at which clippers are in. thats why I hate plus/minus ratings
wizards...
where computer assistance happens
by rzawrecktah on Dec 15, 2009 12:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I've had to put my TV inside a steel cage
They kept breaking into a thousand pieces at the end of Wizards games, darndest thing
by morethesamewiz on Dec 15, 2009 12:18 AM EST reply actions
self immolation
flip needed to sub in some offensive firepower and fresh legs. blatche and nick shoulda been in, dsteve is O liability and haywood/jamison were winded. flip was like 4 game min late
by rzawrecktah on Dec 15, 2009 12:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions
You've got to be shitting me
Earl Boykins should be in one of those wanna get away commercials for Southwest
by morethesamewiz on Dec 15, 2009 12:21 AM EST reply actions
Can we return Boykins?
Did we keep the receipt?
McGuire with Stevenson is terrible.
McGuire without Stevenson I like.
McGuire instead of Stevenson I love.
Damn we should just forfeit the third quarter from now on
and agree to spot them 10 pts going into the fourth
by morethesamewiz on Dec 15, 2009 12:23 AM EST reply actions
such a bad team right now
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Dec 15, 2009 12:24 AM EST reply actions
The Comeback
Did say more about the Clippers offense or our D.
Yeah
It was weird how they turned it up after the Wiz did.
If Boykins actually plays the 4th quarter
…. hold me back, hold me back!
wow
Nick Young is in for the start of the 4th Quarter
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
Good I missed the 3rd quarter
And Blatche made a terrific play so maybe I will only see the good part of this game?
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 12:30 AM EST reply actions
Actually the Wiz were great in the first half of the third
See comments above…horrible lineup and strong play by clips led to 20-5 run to close out the quarter.
Nice play Blatche
Looking at who is in now, I think Flip thought Jamison would carry that all-defensive line-up. Hopefully he won’t try that again.
What the hell was that?!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
Yo, I'm from the future and I'm here to tell you its worse than you were probably expecting
How much worse: Deshawn Stevenson’s how much worse
by morethesamewiz on Dec 15, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Young got shafted be the refs there
should’ve been a no call.
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
If they were playing a better team than the Clippers
The refs would have whistled this one out of reach by now.
Now Steve Buckhantz
its not hard to believe that the Wizards have blown a 17-point lead! You’ve watched this team all year for God sakes!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 12:39 AM EST reply actions
How the crap wasn't that a moving screen on Kaman?
He was practically doing the cha cha wil Gil
Thank you Antawn!
Now don’t do an Arenas and miss the FT
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 12:42 AM EST reply actions
Teams will never learn
That you don’t let Antawn go baseline
Why has Haywood's defense completely gone to pot?
Kaman is destroying him now.
That last possession was pretty bad
What the hell was Gilbert doing?
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
Most worthless piece of trivia evah?
Gilbert has scored 30 points in 4 of the last 6 times he has faced the Clippers…of course, he hasn’t faced the Clippers since the end of the ’06-07 season.
by morethesamewiz on Dec 15, 2009 12:46 AM EST reply actions
What the hell was Stevenson doing there?
He’s entering full win-destroying mode.
Is Crawford the worst ref?
not just calls against the Wiz, even a lot of his calls for the Wiz seem to suck. I really don’t like that guy
Can we nickname Deshawn Stevenson
“self inflicted dagger wound”
dagger wound?
I was thinking shotgun wound
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
He reminds me in looks and in career trajectory of Kimbo Slice
by morethesamewiz on Dec 15, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
It's a start, but we need something shorter
How about the Seppuku Dagger? (seppuku is ritual suicide)
anyone at all think this game is not totally over?
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Dec 15, 2009 12:49 AM EST reply actions
We are where we are
Because of what we are (Theres no I in team).
I know I am not basketball coach material
But Gilbert would be sitting next to me right now.
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 12:50 AM EST reply actions
I can't even get mad at this point
I’ve lost the will to be disappointed.
I can only manage a slight chuckle
I know where you are coming from.
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
I am not to that point yet
Because I am not full of loathing for the Wizards are like I am for the Redskins,
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
Theres no team, the Wizards have the personality of whichever of the guys
is getting ready to go one-on-five on a given possesion
by morethesamewiz on Dec 15, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
In a lot of these losses....
it seems like they could have been avoided by not putting in no offense lineups for almost full quarters? like when we have boykins, stevenson, mcguire, oberto, and haywood in all at once for long stretches. Why does Flip have to rest all his stars at once, thats how these collapses keep happening and i don’t get how he doesn’t see this. Do you guys see it, or is it just me?
How many #@$$@ times
Have the Wizards players been stripped tonight!?
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 12:53 AM EST reply actions
They are just looking for $ bills in their shorts
Can’t the Clippers help a brother out?
by Manimal Smith on Dec 15, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know why steve and phil suddenly think
that after 46 minutes, these guys are suddenly going to play phenomenal basketball.
Oh this isn't fair
the Wizards are going to tease us now!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 12:56 AM EST reply actions
We're still playing the clips
They may help us out yet.
Yikes irrational exuberance alert!
Butler’s 3-point attempt!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 12:57 AM EST reply actions
C'mon
This is inconclusive
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
Oh so close for NY!
Why the hell couldn’t that stay down!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 12:59 AM EST reply actions
Oh geez
The Fucking Clippers?
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
Basketball gods hate nick young
And the wizards
I hope Flip never mentions the basketball gods again
When your team sucks, the gods have nothing to do with it
how is this possible
for this team to be this talented but suck so much?
Not a joke
but…Stevenson makes me not hate Jared Jeffries as much, because hey as it turned we could do worse at SG
by morethesamewiz on Dec 15, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
how did they win 7 games?
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Dec 15, 2009 1:03 AM EST reply actions
Like someone said earlier
See Caron what happens when you are decisive when you shoot!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 1:03 AM EST reply actions
Surely Randy Foye will get subbed in after the first throw?
We can’t let dagger wound finish the game on the floor when we could need a 3, right?
Its a fouling lineup
And it might be to our advantage that the Wiz can’t call timeout.
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions
did anyone see deshawn there
he just told earl to switch matchups when he could have easily stayed on gordon
Kiss my ass, Earl Boykins
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 1:07 AM EST reply actions
Very Very Very Pissed right now
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
And the wiz find another way to lose
Good for them.
HEY HEY HO HO EARL BOYKINS GOTSTA GO!!
(seething rage) the benefit of the doubt is over Mr. Fourth Quarter, CYA!
And to the Fucking Clippers
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
Boykins
Get out of here, Can we please have a closer
Tankopalooza 2009/10 version
Officially starting the “lets play Deshawn 48 minutes” campaign.
I see that Gil and Caron taught Earl the bounce the ball off your knee move.
by hotplate on Dec 15, 2009 1:09 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Finding ways to lose
We have yet to commit a defensive goal-tend on a game winning buzzer beating 3 pointer.
Watch for that on Wednesday.
Then we’ll have hit for the cycle.
thanks wiz!
for making it hurt WAAAAAAY more than it should
"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith
by little stevie colter on Dec 15, 2009 1:10 AM EST reply actions
That is the only thing that they are good at this year
Unlike the days of old when we could really laugh because they were playing guys like my namesake, this year we thought it would be our best team in more than a dozen years and instead its one of our worst.
Its tragic. I’d rather go back to the days of sucking hilarity where we could all be ironic about it.
by Manimal Smith on Dec 15, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions
Yes
and the days of Michael Smith and Bob Mcann
by Manimal Smith on Dec 15, 2009 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
The Animal
or, as my dad and I donned him “Manimal”
by Manimal Smith on Dec 15, 2009 1:17 AM EST up reply actions
Why Not?
At least we knew we sucked, and didn’t bother to assume we would actually win a close game.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
If I'd known that was going to be how the game ended
I would’ve spent the last 45 minutes plowing through my tivo
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 1:10 AM EST reply actions
Give Foye
A shot at PG nothing to lose at the mo.
by wuds100 on Dec 15, 2009 1:11 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yup
Boykins’ game tonight has me longing for Mike James to get some PT.
Good Addition to the Tank Lineup
PG: Mike James
SG: DeShawn Stevenson
SF: Randy Foye
PF: Fabricio Oberto
C: JaVale McGee
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
You da man, you da man
That’s the reason I’m a bullets fan.
Anyway we can trade 2 #1 picks for Mark Price again?
by Manimal Smith on Dec 15, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
No its what our character, connection and
commitment to finding new ways to lose looks like
by Manimal Smith on Dec 15, 2009 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
Earl Boykins
Is f*cking terrible.
Cut him. Yes, I am serious. Get rid of him.
At least give Foye a shot so we can pump up his trade value.
So is there any chance of a trade actually happening soon?
cause if it doesn’t happen really soon this season is over
Its already over
But we need to dump some salaries and try to get under the luxury tax so that our management isn’t in economic ruin for the next 5 years.
by Manimal Smith on Dec 15, 2009 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
Thats fine also
but do you think there is a chance that management and coaching staff pursues or agrees to any trades, or are they to much in denial?
by FNFWizardsFan on Dec 15, 2009 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
Unclear
I think Ernie has lost his mind because it looks like he really thinks we are a good team.
by Manimal Smith on Dec 15, 2009 1:17 AM EST up reply actions
then this sucks
but even he should notice that a good team like this wouldn’t have 2 straight losses like these losses to the pacers and then clippers. This should be some sort of wake up call, right?
by FNFWizardsFan on Dec 15, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
We are cursed
we always play just to the level our opponents then find a way to lose it in the closing seconds.
Heartbreaking
Its on Flip
You can’t blow leads, turn the ball over, fail to close out games, and be mismatched night in and night out if your coach has the slightest idea of how to to coach this particular group.
This effing sucks.
ok, i didnt watch this game...
and i know hes been shit the last two games in the closing minutes, but gil has to be on the floor there.
ok thanks.
i was here thinking “alright, this is reasonable. but hes better than deshawn…”
he fouled out
and he was horrendous before that. When he went out the Wiz were down 7.
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
Is it too late to dump Deshawn to the trouble assets relief program?
I think we could use some TARP money to help offset his salary.
How about to offset Arenas' salary?
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah maybe then they would cap Arenas and Flip's compensation
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 15, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
I haven't seen a reputable coach go down in flames like this since Larry Brown with the Knicks
by morethesamewiz on Dec 15, 2009 1:23 AM EST up reply actions
Mike D'Antoni?
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
No ...
He is playing with garbage players and has a better record than us ..
by Manimal Smith on Dec 15, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
Wow they are better than the Wizards now
after that horrendous start. Oh dear!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Dec 15, 2009 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
Go for it.
I think we need to let off some steam
by Manimal Smith on Dec 15, 2009 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
One thing is for sure
That is we need a PG and it aint Gil, We cant even cross
halfcourt in control, Think of the damage Gil could do with
a half decent playmaker alongside him.
and they have the nerve to play that damn Wizards commercial again...
…that’s it for me; I need to sleep this off.
like i said, didnt watch game...
but good night statistically for caron. did he play as well as it looks?
20-7-5 + 5 steals
No
Look at his 5 TOs.
At least he did some decent catch and shoot tonight. He was better, but still not good.
by Manimal Smith on Dec 15, 2009 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
Fair point, but
His TOs came at game killing times
by Manimal Smith on Dec 15, 2009 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
he was invisible
Until the last six minutes
by mfish on Dec 15, 2009 2:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well I guess if theres one piece of inspiration that can be culled from this season
Is that if the Grizzlies can win games, so can anybody
On the other hand
It’s more than sobering to realize that 95% of us would trade teams and cap situations with griz even though they employ one Zach Randolph
by Manimal Smith on Dec 15, 2009 1:34 AM EST up reply actions
who is absolutely lighting shit up for my fantasy team.
talk about someone whos better if you only watch his games in text form…
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