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Boston Celtics vs. Washington Wizards: Regular Season Game 20 Open Thread

Boston Celtics at Washington Wizards, Dec 10, 2009 8:00 PM EST


UPDATE: We apologize for the technical difficulties.  Things should be running smoothly now. -Mike


The Essentials:

Celtics (17-4) at Wizards (7-12)
8 p.m.
Verizon Center
TV: TNT
Radio: 106.7 The Fan

Notable Celtics numbers this season

1st in expected winning percentage (.800)
25th in pace (90.9 possessions per game)
8th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (109.4)
1st in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (90)

Pre-game links

Celtics Blog, SB Nation's Boston Celtics blog
Celtics Hub
Red's Army, a Celtics blog
LOY's Place, a Celtics blog
Hardwood Houdini
Boston Globe Celtics blog
Celtics Insider, Boston Herald
Our podcast with Celtics Blog's JimmyT
GameDay Detroit

Tonight's Projected Starters
Celtics vs. Wizards
Rajon Rondo
PG Gilbert Arenas
Ray Allen
SG Nick Young
Paul Pierce
SF Caron Butler
Kevin Garnett
PF Antawn Jamison
Kendrick Perkins
C Brendan Haywood


To repeat the overused Kevin Garnett mantra, anything is possible tonight.  Pigs could come flying from the sky.  Michael Ruffin could join the Celtics, throw the ball up in the air with two seconds left right to Gilbert Arenas for Arenas it hit a game-winning three. 

What's most likely though?  The Wizards will lose.  Boston is among the best teams in the NBA right now (I'd argue the very best), and they're playing extremely well.  They've won eight in a row after a slight mid-November swoon, and many of those wins have come on the road.  They're coming off a ho-hum win over Milwaukee at home, but they recently dismantled the Thunder in Oklahoma City.  They're good. 

And they're everything the Wizards haven't been this year.  They control the tempo.  They're disciplined on offense.  They get exactly the shots they want.  They're consistently outstanding on defense.  They score inside and outside.  In other words, they're the anti-Wizards, at least right now.

The Wizards' best chance is to push the tempo and make this an up-and-down game, but that would require a transformation in the way Gilbert Arenas plays.  He has been allergic to pushing the ball, and Flip Saunders has said he wants Arenas to push.  Both need to follow through tonight for the Wizards to have any chance.

I'll be there in Section 104, hoping I'm wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised if this got ugly.  Prove me wrong, Wizards!

GO WIZARDS!

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to paraphrase a scene from a movie

the Wizards need to “be aggressive, be-ee aggressive.”

by Pryme on Dec 10, 2009 4:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yes

and they will splash the phone booth whenever the f*** they please.

by Manimal Smith on Dec 10, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Move along, nothing to see here

So we play the Pacers Saturday, should be a good game.

by morethesamewiz on Dec 10, 2009 5:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

the line i see is 7.5

bettors seem to think there is a possibility of the wiz making a game of it. not a 10+ point spread…

i see gilbert dropping 25, caron and aj around 20 each, a wiz win, and everyone is happy around here, until we lose to the pacers on saturday.

by DarrellWalkerFan on Dec 10, 2009 5:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We have their number

which is nice. I wouldn’t be surprised if we won, we like playing on TNT and we usually play up to the level of our competition. Then we will go a lay an egg at Indiana.

Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!

by ledellforlife on Dec 10, 2009 5:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

the saddest thing is...

everybody is waiting for the wizards to be good. Of course, we are all bias here. As I read ESPN, Yahoo Sports, and others, everyone keeps saying we are going to get our groove eventually. It is interesting because in years passed we had always been deemed the overachievers.

I agree with the others, spirit lifting win tonight, heart breaking loss on Saturday.

by Carlos Returns on Dec 10, 2009 6:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I disagree with the majority - I guess...

I think we’re looking at an ugly, ugly loss tonight…. and a blowout win on Saturday.

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 6:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

that would be the logical expectation.

i’m with you. at least for tonights game. and i’m ok with that. the one thing i will not tolerate is coming out like they did against toronto and detroit the last 2 games. that will piss me off.

"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith

by little stevie colter on Dec 10, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's nice to know that I am among other true Bullets fans

who can only believe that we will get a big win by conceding that someone else will go horribly wrong. I definitely know that feeling :P

I think we’ll know in the first 7 minutes whether we have a shot in this game.

by Manimal Smith on Dec 10, 2009 6:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

does anyone know what our record is

on “teh big cable primetime?”

by Pryme on Dec 10, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Sorry guys

Had some technical difficulties, we’re back in action now.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 8:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

oh i thought it was me for a minute

I’m here sayking, “I just bought this laptop!”

by Pryme on Dec 10, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

servers were down for a little while

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 8:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

omg

miller’s glasses. his hair is better though. no more roots

by gbkdc on Dec 10, 2009 8:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

why's jamison on garnet

and blatche on pierce?

"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith

by little stevie colter on Dec 10, 2009 8:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts exactly

Better yet, why play this lineup?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i kinda like the line-up

"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith

by little stevie colter on Dec 10, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

in principle, that is

size and scoring

"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith

by little stevie colter on Dec 10, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess

It’d work best if you pair them with Caron, so you can post Tony Allen, I think. Or, I guess you could post Blatche.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

caron for antawn?

"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith

by little stevie colter on Dec 10, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Irony:

Reggie “Kick my legs out to get contact” Miller talking about petty fouls.

by Pryme on Dec 10, 2009 8:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah really

Pierce grabs the jersey – holds Blatche – and Reggie calls it “petty”…

Maybe if Pierce punched Blatche – Reggie would give him a call…..

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah - Now the Referees will make their presence known.....

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 8:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wizard's bigs will be in foul trouble.... Game over

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nah - just oberto

"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith

by little stevie colter on Dec 10, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Big surprise - Wizards already over the limit....

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dear Wizards,

Please stop passing the ball while in mid-air.

Sincerely,

Me

by Pryme on Dec 10, 2009 8:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What I don't get is how Boston can reach in so many times

and ALWAYS get all ball (according to the Referees)…..

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 8:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oberto

Why does this guy play? Better question, why is this guy in the NBA?

by Oldbuckwilder on Dec 10, 2009 8:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well that was quick

Oberto out, JaVale in.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 8:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Watch the replay again

That was Butler’s fault – Allen was his man on the break…. he just loped down the court, beside Allen …. and he never got in front of him…

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just don’t want Butler to skate on that one… At least Andray had “his” man….

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

out of control

this game. uh oh

by gbkdc on Dec 10, 2009 9:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Like seeing Blatche take it to Rasheed for once this game

Sheed’s been pushing him around. Two nice aggressive plays.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Whoa

Is Gil trying to play D?!?!

by Oldbuckwilder on Dec 10, 2009 9:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I guess you give McGee a block on that......

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 9:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

holy shit that was a dive by allen

"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith

by little stevie colter on Dec 10, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ray Allen's still got it

Criminally underrated player.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 9:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

There's a clue for you Reggie Miller

grabbing the opponent’s Jersey is a FOUL

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 9:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I like how the refs waited

until Rondo’s elbow was firmly in Blatche’s neck before giving him the call.

by Pryme on Dec 10, 2009 9:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Why is Rondo getting calls

that Gil isn’t getting at home?

by ronoD nagrO on Dec 10, 2009 9:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That one was both bad and costly

Because it’s three on Dray, and he was really playing well.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What

Did you think that the Wizard’s bigs would be able to play the entire game without being in foul trouble?

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Only that last one was questionable, I think

Celtics are pushing the Wizards around and we’re not responding. The more aggressive team always gets the calls. Fact of the NBA.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Because Rondo plays for the Boston Celtics....

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't tell if I'm just being a homer

but it does seem like they are actively NOT giving Arenas calls.

by ronoD nagrO on Dec 10, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nah, I don't agree tonight

Arenas got the foul when he drove on TA.

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by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Arenas has not really given the Referees any opportunity to call a foul – he hasn’t been driving…

Rondo – on the other hand, ……………… well, he plays for Boston.

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh.

Why is Earl still playing? Our ball movement is not good. We need the Hibachi tonight.

by Craig_ on Dec 10, 2009 9:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Turning point of the game?

10:40 left in the 2nd Quarter…. Wizards down by 2 – score is 30-28

Referees call 4 consecutive fouls, putting Boston in the penalty – Oberto with 3 fouls – goes back to the bench…

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 9:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oberto certainly deserved every foul though,

looked like he wanted to get back to the bench while his seat was still warm.

by ronoD nagrO on Dec 10, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I saw one foul on Oberto that I thought was valid…. The other two were suspect.

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And the foul on JaVale McGee was a flop by Ray Allen….

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They all looked valid to me

On that last one, he was literally grabbing Shelden Williams with both hands.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Foul.

I’m getting really tired of this sh*t. If you foul, FOUL the effing shooter.

by Craig_ on Dec 10, 2009 9:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Boston is shooting 63% for the half – but part of that is the fact that the Wizards are continually called for fouls on Boston’s misses….

Boston with 21 foul shots
Wizards with 9

I said there would be a change in the game – look at my comment at 5:42pm (and 5:53pm) – when the Wizards were hanging around…..

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Immediately after that – the Referees started calling fouls on every Boston possession….. 3-point plays galore…

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

true, but good teams power on and play

they don’t go into pout mode and stop guarding people.

by Pryme on Dec 10, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

I saw it and thought, the game’s practically over. The ref’s won’t let Washington win on national TV even though they’re the home team.

by Craig_ on Dec 10, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey

Don’t get me wrong…. Boston is the MUCH better team… But this game would be much closer if the fouls were equitably called…

Every time Boston reaches in on Defense – they get “all ball”….
Every time Washington reaches in – WHISTLE

Every inside shot by Boston – the shooter is “bumped” – AND ONE
Every inside shot by Washington – no call.

AND – I still think that Ray Allen flopped – That Ray Allen CHARGED into Blatche (regardless whether he took the hit “square” or not **** )

* By the way Mike, you don’t have to be “square” to take a charge… it depends on position. If the defensive player is set, and in position, and the Offensive player runs into him (regardless of where he hits the defensive player) – it’s a CHARGE…. AND the referees call it that way when it’s a Boston defender… (or a Cleveland defender, or an Orlando Defender, or a Laker Defender)…..

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This team just can't compete with good teams.

We could be shooting 75% and still be losing.

by ronoD nagrO on Dec 10, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That is just embarassing.

When is this team going to get angry and show some life. It’s hard to root for this level of effort.

by ronoD nagrO on Dec 10, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Physical Defense... WANTED (with bullet points)

I’m waaaaay to upset to make a coherent post so here’s the bullet points….

Gil’s defense in that second quarter on Ray Allen was active and spirited. Thumbs up.
Everyone else – horrendous. Absolutely terrible. If you’re late and you need to foul, FOUL the shooter. Make sure the ball doesn’t get up in the air. It happens game after game where we just lightly tap the guy, it gets called and then it’s an and 1.

Had to mute Charles… back.

We need a lineup that no longer includes Earl. Nick Young needs a chance to play increased starters minutes. He provides length and height to combat Rondo and Allen. Earl’s starting to get exposed and it’s showing why he cannot stay with a team longer than a year. I know that’s harsh and he has some positives, but the novelty has worn off.

by Craig_ on Dec 10, 2009 9:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Mike... any insight...

into what you would like to see the Wizards do to start the third quarter?

by Craig_ on Dec 10, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Grabbing a rebound would be a heck of a start

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by JakeTheSnake on Dec 10, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And also

The Wizards need to stop thinking that defense equals fouling.

by bigrm18 on Dec 10, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chuck

did anyone just see Barkley’s rant? I think its about time we admit hes right about us. If we don’t go 500 in the next six games i think EG should blow it up as much as he possibly can.

by iluvthebullets on Dec 10, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Seriously?

DMac would be such a better option at this point.

by Craig_ on Dec 10, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

4 fouls on Pierce??

I seriously only remember one of the other three fouls.

by bigrm18 on Dec 10, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WOW

Referees called a reach in foul on a Boston player !!!

Mark the date and time…

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 9:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hmmmm

Referees trying to even the foul situation quickly in the 2nd half

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 9:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Apparently,

it didn’t hit the rim either.

by ronoD nagrO on Dec 10, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WOW

they called a moving screen- – -

I think I might faint

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 9:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Here they come

Wow, didn’t think these guys had it in them. Despite that last stuff, I love the way Gilbert is playing tonight. Mostly aggressive, getting some looks for himself and others on secondary beak.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I seriously

Didn’t expect this from the Wizards, or from the refs for that matter. Let’s see how long it lasts…

by bigrm18 on Dec 10, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WOW x2.

I would never have thought we would’ve erased a 14 point deficit in about five minutes to start the 3rd. Wow. And with DSteve in the game.

by Craig_ on Dec 10, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OK - THAT'S ENOUGH

Time for the Referees to re-take control of this game….

Wizards will not be allowed to make a game of this….
The Referees need to get Boston some easy shots, and some trips to the line…..

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Mark it down…. 6:57pm PST…

6:20 left in the third quarter….

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You're quite on point with the "marks" for tonight.

Let’s hope you’re wrong about this particular one.

by Craig_ on Dec 10, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Eastern time zone… but my posts all say PST…
I assume it’s because this is a SBN site?

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep – you’re right … My account settings were wrong…

So – mark it down

10:02pm

6:20 left in the third quarter

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you can adjust the time in the account settings.

by Fundefined on Dec 10, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So a look away for 20 minutes and the score is almost tied. The hell happened?

by Fundefined on Dec 10, 2009 10:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That fourth foul on Pierce was key

Celtics really missing him now.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 10:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What a great defensive possession out of the timeout

D-Steve and Wood shut off Ray Allen really well.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 10:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ray Allen

I hate you. That is all.

by bigrm18 on Dec 10, 2009 10:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

another F-ING dive my allen

"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith

by little stevie colter on Dec 10, 2009 10:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

by

"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith

by little stevie colter on Dec 10, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Another reach in by Boston – all ball

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think Flip just said

“they’ve been doing that all night!”

by ronoD nagrO on Dec 10, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

indecision by Arenas.

by Fundefined on Dec 10, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

At least it was physical.

It was physical in the wrong way, but if he wants to be that guy… I can applaud that sentiment (not action).

by Craig_ on Dec 10, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah – and Rondo can undercut Jamison while he’s in the air, causing him to fall hard – potential injury… regular foul…

A little push in the back by Stevenson is a Flagrant?

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oops

i just watched it again… that was a pretty bad foul….

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

over? was it over when the germans bomber pearl harbor?

"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith

by little stevie colter on Dec 10, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It never even began =(

by Fundefined on Dec 10, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Boston on a 9-0 run… helped by two fouls, and a non-call

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i think it's more the wiz offense than the refs

they just have bad, slow developing possessions.

"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith

by little stevie colter on Dec 10, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah - I noticed that Arenas is still walking the ball up the court

BUT – no one else is running either…

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's the biggest problem

I think Gil is pushing, but guys aren’t running because they’re all rebounding.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't care if he's not running to score

But get the ball across the timeline and get into the Offense with 20-21 seconds left on the shot clock… Allows the Offense to go through 3 or maybe even 4 different options. Make the Defense play for the full 20 seconds…

Walk the ball up the court, and get into the Offense with 16 seconds left – the defense doesn’t have to play so long.

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OH NO

Not the Kobe, LeBron muppet commercials again….

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OT: bwoods...

Is bwoods coming back any time in the near future?

by Craig_ on Dec 10, 2009 10:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He was supposed to be back this week

He’ll be back, no worries.

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by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No he wasn’t – if he were, the Referees would have called it.

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bad shot Randy

You don’t run for contested 16-footers.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 10:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jeez maybe you're right Rook

That was a late-ass call.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 10:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Should have been a no call.. Haywood had position – even if he WAS inside the no-charge zone…

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The referee closest to the play – made the right call – no foul – block by Haywood..

The outside referee – 24 feet away made that call

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Also, we may have the most mid range shooters in the lineup right now

by Fundefined on Dec 10, 2009 10:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Blache for 3??

Whatever works I guess.

by bigrm18 on Dec 10, 2009 10:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

dray for 3?

dios mio

"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith

by little stevie colter on Dec 10, 2009 10:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bench guys outplaying Cs bench guys now

Can’t believe we haven’t seen Nick at all in the second half.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 10:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I can

He wasn’t playing very well on Defense against Ray Allen….

Old vet was schooling him.

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Something lost in the hustle and bustle...

This seems sort of an EJ type of move.

by Craig_ on Dec 10, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Don’t call the hand check as Butler made his move… make a 3-second call against the Wizards instead -

I re-wound and watched it again… Foul occurred prior to Haywood being in the lane 3-seconds.

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Isn't that what Donaghy said

Find some call – defensive 3 seconds…. ticky tack foul… palming

Anything that could almost be called on every play – and change the entire tempo of the game…

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gilbert back in. Earl out.

Lineup is now Gilbert/Foye/Butler/Blatche/Haywood. This is a lineup I’ve always wanted to see.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great hustle by butler

by Fundefined on Dec 10, 2009 10:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oh Please

Don’t let Eddie House get hot….

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah – bad pass… But I’ll cut him some slack…

He’s played pretty good defense… (5 Steals)..
And he’s shooting well (5-6 from the field)

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

AJ was at the scorers table to check back in...

What would be more important… his offense or Blatche’s defense?

by Craig_ on Dec 10, 2009 10:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

his offense considering the refs right now

by Fundefined on Dec 10, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jamison in, Haywood out

Flip was talking to Haywood about something. I have no idea what.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Haywood has hit the Defensive boards in the second half….

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Play both…

and keep Haywood in… GO big… with Jamison at the 3…

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

At the 2 – but playing defense on Pierce

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

reply fail

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What a drive by Gilbert there

He’s playing great tonight.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 10:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

how was that not an and-1?

"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith

by little stevie colter on Dec 10, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Because Pierce has 4 fouls… and he plays for Boston

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

FUCK. Stevenson. Yes Blatche!

by Fundefined on Dec 10, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ok rook - i give in

celtics get away with freaking murder. you are correct

"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith

by little stevie colter on Dec 10, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

NO excuses – Boston is the much better team… and they CREATE their own good luck where the Referee’s calls are concerned…. Same with Cleveland, Lakers, etc…

Wizards have to fight through that…

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Butler got absolutely clobbered inside on that Offensive rebound… Again Pierce got away with one.

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Actually

it wasn’t Pierce -

With the magic of DVR – Butler was clobbered by KG AND Perkins….

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

of course it was perkins

i think hes one secretly one of the dirtest players

by SidVicious25 on Dec 10, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wizards reach in = foul
Celtics reach in = all ball

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ok - that jamison shot tops ALL other of his flip shots

"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith

by little stevie colter on Dec 10, 2009 10:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Then Rondo gets a stuff…. but did anyone else see KG with the moving screen?

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

How can you set a screen, while moving backwards – and not have it called?

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

When do they ever call moving screens?

Much less moving screens on stars!

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Dec 10, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My heart stoped when Rondo almost got that tip

by Fundefined on Dec 10, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wince

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gilbert is 1-5 tonight on Free Throws…

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Make that 1-6

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Wizards really, really need to hire him back....

He didn’t help with just the Free Throw shooting, but he could help the entire team’s FG percentage as well….
Especially guys like Foye, Young, Butler and even Gil….

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

was gil gettin boo'd?

how many celtics fans are there?

by SidVicious25 on Dec 10, 2009 10:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

An unbelievable amount

Gil had the same look he had in his eyes when he missed the two against Cleveland. Same blank expression.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gil looks like Kendrick f'ing Perkins

at the line this season, what’s his problem. It’s costinig us games.

by ronoD nagrO on Dec 10, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it was

A fly that sounds like Lebron in Gil’s ear.

by bigrm18 on Dec 10, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I've been thinking in my mind all night...

that this is the game that Hibachi comes back… I’m calling three at the end of the game to send it to OT… win it in OT by 2.

by Craig_ on Dec 10, 2009 10:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

PS......

I’m bad at predictions.

by Craig_ on Dec 10, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bring Back Hopla is sounding like an awfully god website right about now

by Fundefined on Dec 10, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Blatche for 3

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wow, how long did Rondo hold that?!?!?!

by Fundefined on Dec 10, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I looked at it again – counted 7 seconds…. however the Referee was counting with his arm…

Seemed like he was signaling really, really, really, really, really slowly with his arm… and got to 5 seconds just as Rondo passed it in….

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

HELLO!!

Rondo had like 20 seconds to inbound the ball!!

by bigrm18 on Dec 10, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Celtics get 12 seconds to inbound the ball…. The rest of the League only gets 5

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Foye needs a head check

by Fundefined on Dec 10, 2009 10:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Or just a clock check

"...at some point, when u r screaming for more minutes for Pecherov, you have to ask yourselves this question: 'If you keep adding more pineapple to a 'Papa Johns Pizza with Pineapple', when does it become a Papa Johns Pineapple with Pizza???'"

by Gilbert4SpaceJam2 on Dec 10, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

foye. that was foolish

"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith

by little stevie colter on Dec 10, 2009 10:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Those were terrible shots, especially by Foye.

by bigrm18 on Dec 10, 2009 10:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah gil rushed it too

"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith

by little stevie colter on Dec 10, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dear Lord Randy Foye!

You had plenty of time!

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Dec 10, 2009 10:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well...

At least we didn’t get blown out I guess.

by bigrm18 on Dec 10, 2009 11:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Moral Victories are for Losers

And that’s what the Wizards are. This isn’t horseshoes and this isn’t hand grenades. Playing a good team close doesn’t make 7-13 feel any better to me. I’m really fed up. Break this team up. Charles Barkley was right.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Dec 10, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

not thermonuclear warfare either =(

by Fundefined on Dec 10, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wizards with 4 more made field goals than Boston… (including 2 more made 3-pointers)….
However Boston shoots 15 more Free Throws than Washington = GAME

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 11:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

More good stats…

Wizards with 21 assists…. and only 13 Turn Overs.
Wizards with 8 steals (Blatche with 5)
After trailing miserably in rebounding at the half – the rebounds were more even in the 2nd half…
Boston wins the Rebounding battle 40-34
Points in the Paint were pretty close: Boston 46 Wash 42
Washington with more fast break points… 14 – 8

An extremely close game – decided by foul Shots…..

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by Rook6980 on Dec 10, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I Disagree

Rondo said in an interview that the Wizards don’t get back on defense, and that he was going to take advantage. Guess what – that’s exactly what he did. After a promising first quarter, the Wizards failed to show up at all in the 2nd quarter. Zero rebounds – pathetic. How a team with any heart or any pride can fail to compete for an entire quarter against an elite team on national TV simply baffles me. Abe Pollin would have been ashamed of that 2nd quarter effort. THAT = GAME.

But at least we came close, right? Let’s all celebrate the moral victory. That’s what this season is all about, right? I’m sorry, but I’m simply furious right now.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Dec 10, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm furious as well, but I see a different game.

I’m with you 100% on the pride aspect. How you can let a team dominate you for a quarter like that is totally unacceptable. That’s how we lost the game, but in the fourth quarter..

Gil demanded the ball and took it and made shots (free throws not included).
Earl did not play the entire fourth quarter (looked bad most of the game).
Blatche came to play and showed why he should get extended minutes in crunch time.
Young was curiously left on the bench.
DSteve came in and gave a jolt, but was left in for too long.

Even with all of the missteps, we should’ve been blown out but we weren’t. I give the team credit, but a loss is a loss nonetheless.

by Craig_ on Dec 10, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Wizards are a Lot Like the Redskins

They look like they’ve finally turned the corner after every heartbreaking loss… only to lose again. I saw a moral victory after the Toronto game. We’ve lost two straight since then.

I appreciate that you’re looking for the bright spots and maintaining your optimism. I’ve lost mine, unfortunately.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Dec 10, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh Gilbert...

where is your swag?

by Craig_ on Dec 10, 2009 11:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

gil and free throws, man.

the one thing i take away from this that’s positive: it’s all mental for him. i was really wondering if the knee wasn’t right when he was struggling. it is fine. it’s all in his noggin. as demonstrated at the free throw line.
they can build off this effort

"how ironic - you came here with a mouse in a bottle, now YOU are the mouse in the bottle" - B.M. Smith

by little stevie colter on Dec 10, 2009 11:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Shoulda won this game

In so many different ways. Oh well, guess that’s the wizards

by Dreezy on Dec 10, 2009 11:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The Referees Allowed a Lot of Contact

But the Wizards can’t use that as an excuse. Boston was getting hammered inside also. You just can’t spot a team like the Celtics a 15 point lead. Unlike the Wizards, the Celtics know how to hang on.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Dec 10, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gilbert is killing them at the end of games

It’s getting pretty consistent. He has no feel at the end. Many bad decisions, many game killing plays. And now the horrible FTs. Holy crap.

by Hondo Howard on Dec 11, 2009 12:33 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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